Tariq Nasheed vs Umar Johnson

[respiration]

hey I mean isnt that something that could easily be proven....

I mean if he is lying about that and tariq could prove it, he would just put the nail in his credibility coffin

with folks on the fence about him.. he would be really stupid to lie about that.. and say what you want

about umar but he aint stupid..

Brother, no matter how much intellect someone may possess, unchecked arrogance in motion inevitably breeds stupidity. Desperation has that effect as well.

For example, the other day when Umar claimed that he collected $400,000 in donations through GoFundMe but that they kept between $125,000 and $150,000 in "convenience fees". Family, a simple visit to GoFundMe's website will show documentation that they only keep less than 3% of each donation. Umar is claiming they kept between 31 and 35%. If that's actually what GoFundMe does, no one would use it.

And again NO RECEIPTS for his claim.

Also, didn't that man claim to have collected substantially more than that in the past? What happened to the rest of the money?

He's made a lot of disingenuous unsubstantiated claims in the past because he rightly assumed that most of his brainwashed avid followers will take him at his word.

 

[ShortyCumStain]

The white supremacists are loving this,

Seems more like niggas are lovin' this seeing as how many are egging this on. Muthafuckas talm'bout "who will win".

 

[naijachief]

For me it's simple. Any black so called leader who promotes the nonsense idea of NOT VOTING, is a REAL DANGER to our community.

White people will NEVER like us, they can only be FORCED to respect us by LAWS. We all know how the laws of the land are created, amended and abolished. Our criminal injustice system needs some serious reform. How do we accomplish this without the help of politicians?

 

[darth frosty]

umar does have a point if true... how tariq talkin bout

being on code, and fighting "white supremacy" but yet hires

a white production crew for his film...

thats being on code??

Per usual, Umar has no receipts for that claim. Folks are supposed to take him at his word.

Ironically there are receipts... But they are Tariqs.

He has talked about how he has tried to hire black editors and it backfired on him. That's why 1 of the hidden colors was delayed and he had to go back to the proven editor.

To critique him for not 'allegedly' using a black editor is like faulting him for not using camera's made by a black company.

 

[cashwhisperer]

umar does have a point if true... how tariq talkin bout

being on code, and fighting "white supremacy" but yet hires

a white production crew for his film...

thats being on code??

Don't get me started on the number of codes Umar's breaking. All that bragging and ego shit he's one is the FIRST code he's breaking.

I would probably hire a black film crew but I also want the job done right. It's a sad situation when you gotta go to whiteboys to get the best quality and professionalism. That must change. Can you name 3 black production crews and show me to their online websites/portfolios?

 

[JimJones]

Is Nasheed still a member of bgol?

I’m sure he is.. he usually only come around when one of his movies come out to make sure we not bootlegging his shit ..

 

[BKF]

Seems more like niggas are lovin' this seeing as how many are egging this on. Muthafuckas talm'bout "who will win".

It's the "streets" mentality. It's like a person moving to the suburbs but still acting like they live in a crime infested impoverish neighborhood.

 

[respiration]

It's the "streets" mentality. It's like a person moving to the suburbs but still acting like they live in a crime invested impoverish neighborhood.

Well, for some it's more like seeing the neighborhood bully finally pick on someone their own size.

 

[BKF]

Well, for some it's more like seeing the neighborhood bully finally pick on someone their own size.

Like a person stated previously. They've all done their own "bulling".

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Don't get me started on the number of codes Umar's breaking. All that bragging and ego shit he's one is the FIRST code he's breaking.

I would probably hire a black film crew but I also want the job done right. It's a sad situation when you gotta go to whiteboys to get the best quality and professionalism. That must change. Can you name 3 black production crews and show me to their online websites/portfolios?

I aint sayin umar is perfect, but Im sayin if you on code you should be able to make the effort to find a black production crew..

sheet I bet I an find some right here on bgol..

and I aint sayin umar is perfect, Im just sayin you cant be talkin this always be on code for "white supremacy" by hiring them instead of your own...

 

[respiration]

Like a person stated previously. They've all done their own "bulling".

I'm specifically speaking on Umar calling out and publicly denigrating people whom he can physically dominate (ie Seti and Boyce). "...And if you don't like it, we can take it outside." etc. That's not the case here.

 

[BKF]

I aint sayin umar is perfect, but Im sayin if you on code you should be able to make the effort to find a black production crew..

sheet I bet I an find some right here on bgol..

and I aint sayin umar is perfect, Im just sayin you cant be talkin this always be on code for "white supremacy" by hiring them instead of your own...

That the real deal (even if it's a coon).

 

[respiration]

I aint sayin umar is perfect, but Im sayin if you on code you should be able to make the effort to find a black production crew..

sheet I bet I an find some right here on bgol..

and I aint sayin umar is perfect, Im just sayin you cant be talkin this always be on code for "white supremacy" by hiring them instead of your own...

By the same token in last night's rant, Tariq also stated that his companies employ primarily Black folks.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

By the same token in last night's rant, Tariq also stated that his companies employ primarily Black folks.

I would hope so....

 

[LordSinister]

they need to quit it

 

[Raymond]

Brother, no matter how much intellect someone may possess, unchecked arrogance in motion inevitably breeds stupidity. Desperation has that effect as well.

For example, the other day when Umar claimed that he collected $400,000 in donations through GoFundMe but that they kept between $125,000 and $150,000 in "convenience fees". Family, a simple visit to GoFundMe's website will show documentation that they only keep less than 3% of each donation. Umar is claiming they kept between 31 and 35%. If that's actually what GoFundMe does, no one would use it.

And again NO RECEIPTS for his claim.

Also, didn't that man claim to have collected substantially more than that in the past? What happened to the rest of the money?

He's made a lot of disingenuous unsubstantiated claims in the past because he rightly assumed that most of his brainwashed avid followers will take him at his word.

That part is fucked up. People with ego's tend to exaggerate (or lie) and they see nothing wrong with it. He knows what he's saying is not right, but as long as it makes his point then he's OK with it. As long as he thinks he won his argument, then lying is OK to him. I still believe that if he would have raised the $4 million he asked for, he would have at least attempted to build the school. He can't build it now with only 10% of the money. If it were me, I'd give it back since there's no way he's going to raise the rest of it now. I don't know if he's obligated legally to do it though.

 

[BKF]

That part is fucked up. People with ego's tend to exaggerate (or lie) and they see nothing wrong with it. He knows what he's saying is not right, but as long as it makes his point then he's OK with it. As long as he thinks he won his argument, then lying is OK to him. I still believe that if he would have raised the $4 million he asked for, he would have at least attempted to build the school. He can't build it now with only 10% of the money. If it were me, I'd give it back since there's no way he's going to raise the rest of it now. I don't know if he's obligated legally to do it though.

I certainly would. I don't know if his intention are true or not but even if it's a con. It has to be too much of a headache to continue and surely there are easier ways to con people.

 

[exiledking]

So here Tariq Is saying sometimes ya gotta check people.

"We allow people to steal,be perverts , and we aren't supposed to check this behavior..."


But he's only "checking him" because he offended HIM. He KNEW Umar was stealing long before , but said nothing. He KNEW there would be no school but said nothing. And even went at people who did say something. NOW all of a sudden it's different. Wow.

 

[cashwhisperer]

I aint sayin umar is perfect, but Im sayin if you on code you should be able to make the effort to find a black production crew..

sheet I bet I an find some right here on bgol..

and I aint sayin umar is perfect, Im just sayin you cant be talkin this always be on code for "white supremacy" by hiring them instead of your own...

I agree to a certain extent. But that's like saying, if we're gonna keep it black, let's only use cameras designed by black companies. Let's only use video production software designed by black engineers.....we unfortunately have a lot of limitations right now. Finding a good black only film crew is not an easy feat. Just ask Spike Lee. We gotta get our shit together.

 

[Hotlantan]

 

[BKF]

So here Tariq Is saying sometimes ya gotta check people.

"We allow people to steal,be perverts , and we aren't supposed to check this behavior..."


But he's only "checking him" because he offended HIM. He KNEW Umar was stealing long before , but said nothing. He KNEW there would be no school but said nothing. And even went at people who did say something. NOW all of a sudden it's different. Wow.

Oh you snitchin/going off code?

 

[BKF]

I agree to a certain extent. But that's like saying, if we're gonna keep it black, let's only use cameras designed by black companies. Let's only use video production software designed by black engineers.....we unfortunately have a lot of limitations right now. Finding a good black only film crew is not an easy feat. Just ask Spike Lee. We gotta get our shit together.

So then people like Tariq or whomever should be grooming/creating those folk. Hell..he could ask for the company he's using to bring on some black folk for apprenticeship while working on his product.

 

[respiration]

That part is fucked up. People with ego's tend to exaggerate (or lie) and they see nothing wrong with it. He knows what he's saying is not right, but as long as it makes his point then he's OK with it. As long as he thinks he won his argument, then lying is OK to him. I still believe that if he would have raised the $4 million he asked for, he would have at least attempted to build the school. He can't build it now with only 10% of the money. If it were me, I'd give it back since there's no way he's going to raise the rest of it now. I don't know if he's obligated legally to do it though.

He has the persona of a cult leader. Anytime his word is questioned, he gets hostile. All of a sudden people are coons, haters, etc. That's what cult leaders do, aggrandize themselves, give themselves titles, advertise themselves as special, unique and indispensable. Give me your money, but NEVER question me.

The question is WHY would he lie...

...Unless his intention was to defraud from jump? Why not be transparent all this time? If he is being investigated, why not show the whole paper in that instagram post? Matter of fact, why not show all the pages? How hard would that be? No, everyone is supposed to take him at his word.

This is the most unscholarly, least thorough "scholar" I've ever seen.

 

[exiledking]

I agree to a certain extent. But that's like saying, if we're gonna keep it black, let's only use cameras designed by black companies. Let's only use video production software designed by black engineers.....we unfortunately have a lot of limitations right now. Finding a good black only film crew is not an easy feat. Just ask Spike Lee. We gotta get our shit together.

That's complete bullshit and especially for the low budget movieS he puts out. It's NOTHING like asking for a Black owned camera maker.

Those movies can all be done with a few digicams and edited on a laptop and probably were. There's nothing high end about em , from audio / video production , post production, cinematography, nothing. There are tons of Black people who could've done that. I guess you think that little of us.

 

[II Dxnum]

Lmao are you really trying to act like your opinion is a mystery?

What's my opinion then, simpleton?

 

[Raymond]

He has the persona of a cult leader. Anytime his word is questioned, he gets hostile. All of a sudden people are coons, haters, etc. That's what cult leaders do, aggrandize themselves, give themselves titles, advertise themselves as special, unique and indispensable. Give me your money, but NEVER question me.

The question is WHY would he lie...

...Unless his intention was to defraud from jump? Why not be transparent all this time? If he is being investigated, why not show the whole paper in that instagram post? Matter of fact, why not show all the pages? How hard would that be? No, everyone is supposed to take him at his word.

This is the most unscholarly, least thorough "scholar" I've ever seen.

Because as a cult leader, and the fact that he thinks he's better than everyone else, then his word should be enough for everyone. He doesn't have to prove anything. That's his way of thinking. It's an insult to even question him. He's not the right person to be asking for donations. He's not even the right person to be scamming people if he indeed is a scammer. Scammers are usually nice guys, sweet talkers. He has no business marketing his project. Should have paid someone else to do it but his dumb ego doesn't allow him to do that.

 

[Paul1970]

When was the last time you called a white documentary maker a Race/ Poverty pimp? Go ahead and show us that post.

If there was a White documentary maker doing the same shit that Tariq/Umar are doing i'd call them that too.

Just like a pimp convinces a woman to sell her body for his ego/benefit that's the same thing they're doing to their followers.

How many red flags have to go up before their followers see they're frauds?

These fakes don't care about social justice.

They only care about paying their expenses (and in Umar's case a budget for tricking).

 

[exiledking]

What's my opinion then, simpleton?

Lol do you not realize you've written it all over this board? You're not near as complex as you think you are. Just let it go. Umar is a fraud.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

That EGO shit once again huh?
He can't even not just not do this shit that EGO shit got him into some MORE BEEF
but we gotta "Stay on code" lol

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

are you kidding me???

they absolutely were exposed down to pictures of that muthafucka’s front lawn/door steps...his name...EVERYTHING...dude tried to act bad ass for a minute but tapped out and never so much as even logged back in (@ least under that s/n)...one of the worst/best ocks (depending on if you’re chase or not lol) on BGOL

Do I need to fire up that 30 for 30 cause cats acting like he got a pass around here.

 

[II Dxnum]

Lol do you not realize you've written it all over this board? You're not near as complex as you think you are. Just let it go. Umar is a fraud.

No, what have I written all over this board? Your retarded ass chose the wrong one, now wants somebody to let it go. lmao

 

[cashwhisperer]

So then people like Tariq or whomever should be grooming/creating those folk. Hell..he could ask for the company he's using to bring on some black folk for apprenticeship while working on his product.

He can choose to do this but he ain't obligated. A service company has to prove it's work and build it's reputation. Of course whiteboys have more capital and resources in this area so traditionally they win over us in this area. I'm sure the moment Tariq finds a crew that matches the quality, work ethic and promptness of the whiteboys he will hire them. But until then, you gotta do what you gotta do. He already said he tried working with black companies and got shafted. Tariq is on a schedule with these films cuz they are kickstarted supported....just like Umar's school everybody's waiting on.

 

[Raymond]

If there was a White documentary maker doing the same shit that Tariq/Umar are doing i'd call them that too.

Just like a pimp convinces a woman to sell her body for his ego/benefit that's the same thing they're doing to their followers.

How many red flags have to go up before their followers see they're frauds?

These fakes don't care about social justice.

They only care about paying their expenses (and in Umar's case a budget for tricking).

Show me exactly how Tariq defrauded someone? And be very specific.

In your mind, black people are not supposed to sell documentaries. Only white people can make money of them. But somebody black doing History documentaries? Nah. That shit needs to be free for everybody or else he's a fraud. He's making too much money so he must be a fraud cause you know, only white people should charge for documentaries. It's like when a black kid gets shot by a cop and white people bring up irrelevant topics like well his parents sold drugs so he deserved to get shot. You not liking his personality doesn't have anything to do with him being a fraud. And I know Tariq spits out BS from time to time but that shit has nothing to do with the money people give him for his movies.

 

[cashwhisperer]

That's complete bullshit and especially for the low budget movieS he puts out. It's NOTHING like asking for a Black owned camera maker.

Those movies can all be done with a few digicams and edited on a laptop and probably were. There's nothing high end about em , from audio / video production , post production, cinematography, nothing. There are tons of Black people who could've done that. I guess you think that little of us.

I don't think little of us. I'm a REALIST about us.

I know what can be done with a few pieces of equipment but that's all good until you deal with niggas being able to deliver on their promise. From Gabriel Hart, to Benny Boom, to Hype Williams, to F Gary Gray, to John Singleton, to Tyler Perry, to Spike Lee, you're gonna find white people on ALL those sets, so don't sit here acting like there are an abundance of good black only crews, TEAMS that are busting out good work left are right.

Name 3. I'll wait.

 

[Backshot Bully]

But he's only "checking him" because he offended HIM. He KNEW Umar was stealing long before , but said nothing. He KNEW there would be no school but said nothing. And even went at people who did say something. NOW all of a sudden it's different. Wow.

Tariq said he donated money to his school, how sway?