Tariq Nasheed vs. Tucker Carlson 11/29

"Every brother ain't a brother cause a color
just as well could be undercover."

- Public Enemy (Welcome to the Terrordome)
wtf
if you dont sit your misinformed ass the fuck down somewhere.
hate contrary ass niggas who babble for the sake just to hear their voices amongst the discourse.
 
To recap what I said earlier:

In the past on BGOL, I've pointed out a number of areas where I disagree with Tariq Nasheed. I've also said something that Dr. Boyce recently said, which is (paraphrased), "There is no person who is going to 100% share your views and methods." "We have to pick and choose those parts of what they say that we find valuable and hold onto those things. Discard the rest."

"Discarding the rest" doesn't mean discarding the person, though. Tariq is still my Brother. Though I disagree with some of his words and actions, there are more things he says and does that I do agree with and support him on. He doesn't have to be 100% in line with my own thinking to be Fam.


My wish is that we who have a platform and have a voice - use that platform in ways that actually benefit Black people as a whole. I hate to see a valuable asset such as Tariq be disrespected openly in a forum and format where he is insulted and lied on, will never be given a fair shot and will not be given the chance to really drop science. He has good things to say, he should be heard and he should be shown value coming in the door.

To the extent that our people with something to say, have to be on mass media at all, I would prefer it be in a framework where our thoughts, experiences, viewpoints and humanity are respected.


...But I guess I'm just jealous that I "can't be that guy".

are you bi-polar?
seriously
 
yeah youre bi-polar :lol:
Don't forget "misinformed" :rolleyes: ...Says the one incapable of a reasoned response so he resorts to weak ad hominem attacks. Well let's take a look at some of your "informed" posts.

the funny thing about codes is that them CACs are on Code over there.
Here a black message board we are not.

I can bet there is not dissent over on stormfront. If there is, they are keeping it to THEMSELVES.
Our dumbasses are attempting to tear a Black man whom at the end of the day CARES FOR HIS PEOPLE.

Marinate on that.
Stormfront? BGOL is equivalent to Stormfront - a site that has been the base of white supremacist groups that have actually murdered people of color? Who have we organized together to kill? Who gives a fuck about what they say amongst themselves. For somebody trying to pose as "conscious" - IF you are Black, you sure don't think much of your own Brothers here and yourself to compare us with those scum.

Disagreeing with the effectiveness of his appearance on Fox, is tearing him down? Are you 12? You think on a very elementary level. Tearing down is what your hero Tariq Did to Roland Martin who merely disagreed with something he said. When Tariq relentlessly attacked Roland Martin for disagreeing with him, did you call Tariq a dumbass "attempting to tear a Black man whom at the end of the day CARES FOR HIS PEOPLE"?

You said "marinate on that" as if you actually said something profound.

Exactly. We'll point out in and every little flaw in our "spokespeople" and use it as a reason not to support said person.

I can BET everyone on fox news got skeletons, and most do, but you think people care about Orielly and his domestic issues? ! NOPE

ANYONE WHO SPEAKS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF MY PEOPLE gets an automatic pass with NO criticism. That's my code
How many people who critiqued Tariq in this thread said they won't or don't support him?

"ANYONE WHO SPEAKS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF MY PEOPLE gets an automatic pass with NO criticism."

Anyone? That's a blanket statement. Does that include Al Sharpton? Don Lemon? Tommy Sotomayor? All of them think they speak on our behalf. Bill Cosby thought he spoke on our behalf with his pound cake speech. Stephen A. Smith thought he spoke on our behalf when he said that pulling up our pants and not wearing a hoodie was what we needed to do to keep us from getting killed like Trayvon...when he said basically that we can't expect white cops to stop killing us when we continue to kill each other.

To blindly follow a de facto leader without critique is foolish. That's how 989 people in Jonestown ended up dead. Learn the difference between critique and criticism. Everyone in this thread, including you critiqued Tariq. It's just that some gave a positive critique to his appearance on Fox, while others gave a not so positive review. We don't do groupthink around here. We exchange opinions and perspectives. Constructive critique is vigilance. And we should always be vigilant and watchful especially of those regarded as leaders. Honest critique and analysis does not equate to trashing.

Not sure if you listened to his podcast I posted earlier (it addresses your criticisms) today?

He's shouting because that's the flow of fox news. You have to yell otherwise they cut you the fuck off and move on to other topics or points.

You think Floyd never took punches to the face? In the end he still came out the victor. I think this was the case with Tariq. Dude ambushed him but he took a couple of jabs but landed haymakers.
If the flow of Fox News is that if you are black you have to yell to avoid being cut off - then why the fuck should anyone Black go to that bullshit ass racist station and receive that treatment? Where is YOUR Black pride that you would support him doing that? How in the fuck does his going to Fox to debate for 6 minutes on bullshit benefit US? Everyone knows they are racists. So he's not exposing anything. He's not convincing the cave dwellers who watch Fox of a damn thing. He's throwing out terms like "suspected white supremacist" and they don't even know what one is. They'll only see Tariq as a n*gger who typically plays the race card. There is no win to be found there. Fox completely controls the narrative, the spin, the editing.
 
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If the flow of Fox News is that if you are black you have to yell to avoid being cut off - then why the fuck should anyone Black go to that bullshit ass racist station and receive that treatment? .

Publicity and for any black person watching. Tariq knew exactly who they were before he went to that show. CAC's gone CAC regardless.
 
Right?! Lol. I was like is this dude for real...

that CAC was trying to play a chess move by trying to steer Tariq into responding about Slavery..which would steer the narrative into "stop living in the past, slavery is over!! why can't you get over it" yadda yadda shit they try to do...he got stuck when Tariq didn't take the bait...and still tried to steer it that way by saying once again "this isn't 1955 etc."
 
that CAC was trying to play a chess move by trying to steer Tariq into responding about Slavery..which would steer the narrative into "stop living in the past, slavery is over!! why can't you get over it" yadda yadda shit they try to do...he got stuck when Tariq didn't take the bait...and still tried to steer it that way by saying once again "this isn't 1955 etc."

I caught that too. Tariq didn't take the bait.
 
that CAC was trying to play a chess move by trying to steer Tariq into responding about Slavery..which would steer the narrative into "stop living in the past, slavery is over!! why can't you get over it" yadda yadda shit they try to do...he got stuck when Tariq didn't take the bait...and still tried to steer it that way by saying once again "this isn't 1955 etc."

Most black people would have gotten emotional and taken the bait. The way Tariq breaks the whole interview down in his "Deception Code" podcast and sheds more light on why he said some of the things he's said. At the 16:20 mark he said some real shit - the way they reported the OSU shooting is a way to connect black people and black lives matter with Terrorist groups from overseas so all black people can be considered terrorists.
 
I listened to his podcast trying to spin this into him controlling the interview etc:smh:

Nope.

He got played and he STILL doesn't know how.

They did what all magicians and sleight of hand artists do. They focus his attention on one thing while they do something entirely different; something that their "mark" didn't see or think of.

Their goal was accomplished by sticking him up there, having a Muslim sounding name, and labeling him a leftist and. Black Lives Matter activist. The "interview " was the distraction.

He went in there looking hard and focusing on the interview like a "mark" staring at a magician's hat looking for the rabbit, while the rabbit is already in the magician's coat.

And he STILL has no idea why they really had him on there.

They were done with him after they announced his name and did their visual propaganda. Like all people fooled by magicians he's still looking at that old hat:smh:
 
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No it's not. Proving someone to be racist is very hard, if not impossible. So you don't label someone a racist because it can lead to a weakness in your argument. As said repeatedly, it's chess not checkers.

Like right now, I suspect you're a hater of Tariq Nasheed.

Right that's why you deal with what they say and hold them to that. If something they say sounds racist it's best to hold them on that than to blatantly call them a racist, it strengthens your position against them. Because when you call them a racist you are giving them a way out. Then they can deny lie or whatever because you don't know them personally to say that. Then you end up looking stupid when they pull out the magic black friend from their hat.
 
Right that's why you deal with what they say and hold them to that. If something they say sounds racist it's best to hold them on that than to blatantly call them a racist, it strengthens your position against them. Because when you call them a racist you are giving them a way out. Then they can deny lie or whatever because you don't know them personally to say that. Then you end up looking stupid when they pull out the magic black friend from their hat.

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I listened to his podcast trying to spin this into him controlling the interview etc:smh:

Nope.

He got played and he STILL doesn't know how.

They did what all magicians and sleight of hand artists do. The focus his attention on one thing while they did something entirely different that their "mark" didn't see or think of.

Their goal was accomplished by sticking him up there, having a Muslim sounding name, and labeling him a leftist and. BLack Lives Matter activist. The "interview " was the distraction.

He went in there looking hard and focusing on the interview like a "mark" staring at a magician's hat looking for the rabbit, while the rabbit is already in the magician's coat.

And he STILL has no idea why they really had him on there.

They were done with him after they announced his name and did their visual propaganda. Like all people fooled by magicians he's still looking at that old hat:smh:

:thumbsdown:
 
:lol: One of those suspected white supremacists on twitter mentioned your daddy thomas sowell while attacking tariq, I'm sure you would've smiled.

Twitter lank? Or at least contribute to the conversation and state what was said.

I haven't read enough Thomas Sowell to fully have an opinion. I get the impression that he was more nuanced with his analyses when he was younger, but began morphing into a full-fledged black conservative in the 1980s. Black Rednecks and White Liberals is his most interesting modern work that I am aware of.
 
I listened to his podcast trying to spin this into him controlling the interview etc:smh:

Nope.

He got played and he STILL doesn't know how.

They did what all magicians and sleight of hand artists do. The focus his attention on one thing while they did something entirely different that their "mark" didn't see or think of.

Their goal was accomplished by sticking him up there, having a Muslim sounding name, and labeling him a leftist and. BLack Lives Matter activist. The "interview " was the distraction.

He went in there looking hard and focusing on the interview like a "mark" staring at a magician's hat looking for the rabbit, while the rabbit is already in the magician's coat.

And he STILL has no idea why they really had him on there.

They were done with him after they announced his name and did their visual propaganda. Like all people fooled by magicians he's still looking at that old hat:smh:

Excellent point. Roger Ailes once said that he watches Fox News with the sound OFF. That tells you a lot right there.
 
Excellent point. Roger Ailes once said that he watches Fox News with the sound OFF. That tells you a lot right there.
He (and every other sensible person) should realize an "interview" with Fox is a scam. They don't do interviews: they do propaganda. They would NEVER allow anyone on their network unless it was a set up to accomplish what they wanted as far as presenting a message to their viewers to manipulate and propagandize them. There is no "interview"; the interview is a scam. It worked perfectly on Tariq because his ego tells him he's got too much "game" to be played. He thought "I'll get them. I've got my ZINGERS ready!" (zingers?? really - he actually said this in his podcast:smh:)

It didn't matter what he said - he lost when he appeared in their format where they could control the captions and the introduction. That's all they wanted. They could careless what he said during the interview and they sure as hell could care less about his "zingers"; they might as well as paid an actor to come on and play his part. He didn't see it and apparently still doesn't. I bet if they call him back he'll play the stooge again and go back.

Any call from Fox should go like this:

Fox - Hello, this is Fox News we would like to interview you about your views on the XYZ crisis...

Tariq - I only do real news stations and real interviews. CLICK! (sound of phone hanging up)
 
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I think Tariq gets a kick out of pissing off white supremacist. He does it on Twitter all the time. He showed some screenshots from storm front on his Twitter page - they are obsessed with him on storm front - I think they even have a sticky over there for him.

Why would you be on Stormfront in da first place to know any of that??? :confused:
 
Tariq took a big L. He was ill prepared and fell right into the Fix news trap. As someone stated, they are a proproganda organization. They carefully select who will be on that show and their goal is to misdirect. They don't care about truth. Their goal is to speak to their audience. He should have gone on with his talking points and stayed on message. He even fed into the Fix news narrative of reverse racism by calling him a white supremacist especially after he said Tariq's show was the most racist he has ever heard. Fail on all levels. You have to be on top of your game with prepared points to go on Fix. One night's prep won't cut it either. You better have a script with all the appropriate sound bites etc.
 
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