Taken vs Man on Fire..whose the bigger badass
- Thread starter geechiedan
- Start date
Denzel in "The Book of Eli"
*fuck your movie options niccah! 
*
*fuck your movie options niccah! *
I'd have to go with Denzel's character on this one. Any father swim through lava to save their daughter, but in Man on Fire he did this for a kid that wasn't his and he had only known for a short period of time.
Yeah he wasn't dirty but he was just between a rock and a hard place. The French government, other international officials and wealthy people were in on this whole sex trade thing. Liam's agent friend had got a promotion to a new padded desk job. He wanted to rat on them but then he'd be snitching on his superiors the ones whole got him the job. Remember the agent dude had young kids also and he was worried about his kids future and being able to take care of them. (these secret agent dudes didn't get paid a lot obviously. Liam retired broke and had to do a side job as a body guard and his agent friend had to brown nose to make sure he could get a safe desk job to support his family.)
But yeah when he shot dudes wife after she served him some chicken...cold blooded.
I love man on fire but I'd have to go with taken. That dude moved all through France just of of a cell phone call speaking no foreign language with only two dudes helping him and he had to shoot one of their wives lol.
If this is "Una Parabla" good look GOW
Plus people for got that scene in Taken when he had that dude tied to the chair and stabbed two spikes in his legs connected to the outlet ......just to get information......then after he got it.....he left the power on and left....
still can't decide who is more badass
I gotta watch Man on Fire again, cuz I remember liking it, but it wasn't that memorable to me.
That one scene in Taken (y'all know which one I'm talking about) is one of the Top 5 badassedness scenes I've ever seen....and there was no fighting
Other than that scene, though, that movie is crazy overrated. Dude goes through the whole movie and doesn't get touched at all....and then they have the nerve to put him in sling at the airport at the end...what the fuck, did he fall down the stairs after single-handedly breaking up that prostitution/sex-slave ring?
He got shot when he was on the boat...and stabbed I think. Have to see it again but he did get shot in the arm.
First off, I would go with a tie... (if an NFL game can end in a tie, why not this competition, huh)...They both did some ass whopping that was off the charts....
Denzel in "The Book of Eli"
Denzel didn't have any personnel stake in the girl well being, other than doing his job to protect her, he sacrificed his life for her safe return. Liams character daughter was kidnapped to be sold into prostitution, so he basically had no choice as being a loving Father to protect his daughter. So Denzel wins as being the Baddest of Bad-asses. Nuff Said.
...................
I damn near died when I saw that scene
damn I want to watch this shit again
say whaaaaaaaaaaaaat
boy you killen them
That is a hard one. I would say Denzel's character from Man on Fire since he made the ultimate sacrifice, but Liam Neeson's character was no joke.
getting killed doesn't make you a badass, surviving the shit does
Jayz: Yall respect the nigga that got shot, I respect the shooter
To be truly a badass you have to be believable. Denzel's character was, Liam's wasn't.
Neesom's character invades a camp of 50 or so guys, all of whom are shooting at him with Uzi's and he escapes without a scratch ---- with the girl.
Then on the boat, again a lot of guys shooting at him at close range and he not only doesn't get wounded, he kills 'em all. That doesn't make him a badasss, that make you gullible.
Neesom's character invades a camp of 50 or so guys, all of whom are shooting at him with Uzi's and he escapes without a scratch ---- with the girl.
Then on the boat, again a lot of guys shooting at him at close range and he not only doesn't get wounded, he kills 'em all. That doesn't make him a badasss, that make you gullible.
You're right, getting killed doesn't make you a badass, but Denzel's character didn't have to do so. Sacrificing yourself just because of Duty should make you the Ultimate Bad-ass.
I think alot of you fools made your vote based on the race of character.
Truthfully I like Liam's character better in Taken, but I chose Denzel's character only because of the ultimate sacrifice "Race" didn't have anything to do with it.
Both Movies Were Good. Each Had A Different Type Of Badass. Man On Fire Was More Shootem' Up Blowning Up Type Movie....taken Was More A Tactical, Ass Whoppin' Type Movie. Overall I'd Pick Man On Fire. D Was A Cold Hearted, Nothing To Lose Type Mf. Both Would Have Your Back. In A Pysical Fight I'd Chose Liam.
No doubt Bryan Mills was a badass, but Creasy... "Creasy Bear" was badass. How many slugs in the chest did that fool take before he finally expired? He started out by cutting off dudes fingers then burning them so he would stay awake and not bleed out. And then the C4 was some hard core shit.
"For John Creasy, killing is his art.. and he's about to paint his greatest masterpiece"
EXACTLY!!.
That's exactly why I think Creasy is the bigger badass. Dude rose from the dead and served them.
Last edited:
Lots of yall seem to have heard select parts of the "masterpiece" speech but dont really seem to get what went down.
Before Pita came into his life Creasy was pretty much a floater with little to no soul/motivation that a psychologically normal human being would possess. When he warms up to her -and she to him- it basically cast a rainbow in his monochrome existence making her abduction a serious transgression against HIS stability. In essence it wasnt about a check nor was it extra bad ass cause Pita was not his child.....both are irrelevant to Creasys motives.
With respect to that....the two movies are even. 1) I dont think Creasy would have tripped harder even if Pita was his actual daughter and 2) even with Taken Liam barely had a relationship with his daughter. In both movies the error the kidnappers made is taking the one joy these lonely highly skilled dudes had in their washed out existence. The biological relationship each had with their child is irrelevant to that issue.
Taken hands down,
....and here is why.
He tracked a dude down "internationally", just by the sound of his voice and dialect. THEN...when he finds him....reveals himself in front of all his crew....murders them all, just to save him for torture.
Hiring an interpreter to translate as he picks a fight with a Albanian pimp. (classic).
Emptying the clip of his boys gun (beforehand), taking his weapon, and shooting his wife in the leg with it (with the clip he stole)
Some of ya'll giving him the "Father's Love" treatment, as if he was on performance enhancers.
....and here is why.
He tracked a dude down "internationally", just by the sound of his voice and dialect. THEN...when he finds him....reveals himself in front of all his crew....murders them all, just to save him for torture.
Hiring an interpreter to translate as he picks a fight with a Albanian pimp. (classic).
Emptying the clip of his boys gun (beforehand), taking his weapon, and shooting his wife in the leg with it (with the clip he stole)
Some of ya'll giving him the "Father's Love" treatment, as if he was on performance enhancers.
Dog that scene was cold as fuck. In fact I think part of the hype Taken had on this board was based on that one scene. After dude said "good luck" and dropped the phone...you knew shit was about to get real crazy real fast.
Both characters sacrificed themselves for a white girl. One died. One lived. Badass title to the one who lived.
