T.i Arrest Update!
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Keep in mind that all these weapons can be bought to fire in a single shot mode, which means they are not illegal so long as they remain that way.....I don't know personally, but I heard that with minor modifications they can then be modified to fire fully automatic.
All fully automatic firearms are illegal in every state in the United States unless one possess a Class III FFL (Federal Firearms License)......at least that was the law when I last checked about 10 years ago.
Silencers (noise suppressors) will get your ass Federal prison time in a New York minute, I don't give a fuck who you are.
The wonderful freedom of speech that we have in the USA allows the publication of literature that can teach those who desire, which I have never had any, to make their own noise suppressors.
Everyone wants to know why this fool needed the guns. Simple, he didn't. He wanted the guns to show his boys...."hey nigga, look what I got, my shit is just like Tony Montana's, sheeeiiiiiit."
And even if he got them, where the fuck was he gonna shoot them. The outdoor shooting range I go to has a lot of law enforcement on a private part of the range, out of site, but ain't no mistaken the fire of a machine gun.....rat a tat tat on that azz.
Whatever anyone else has said, no matter what side you are on, don't motherfuckas think about being away from their families, what about mom and dad and wife and child.......I guess niggas too gansta to love their families enough to stay the fuck out of jail.
thank you. TI is one dumb simp. LOL the sad part is that this clown probably beat out a hard working brother for that role in American gangster. TI better get the vaseline ready. I hear that dude is only like 5'6 150. Jail could probably be ruff for him.
"FEDs say I sell dope why they wont indict me"
the only thing fishy here is your inability to absorb details.
you virtually fucked up each component of this case. what kind of bizarro filter are you applying to get shit so twisted?
you need to read the affadavit and not the news reports, which are spun in ways to make the brother seem guilty before we know the facts
http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/ajc/pdf/tidocuments/complaintaffidavit.pdf
I know that' s right. I bought a ar-15 a couple of months ago no problem. The white guy was telling me about all the other things I should buy. Oh by the way one of my white homies knows how to convert it to full automatic. It's not hard at all. It's easy to buy a semi and convert it. That's what makes this whole thing that much more stupid on TI part. LOL who care about his five kids? Dont do dumb crap negros.
Im doin google searches on this silencer shit. I don't see how it's against the law to buy one if you don't have a record. Anyway this cracka explains how he got a record and bought silencers and automatic weapons.lol
In October of 2006 I decided to purchace my first National Firearms Act (NFA) controlled weapon specifically a suppressor, commonly refered to as a “silencer”, for my .22 caliber semi-automatic pistol. Contrary to popular belief it is completely legal to purchase and own not only suppressors but a variety of other firearms such as machineguns, short barreled rifles, shotguns, Any Other Weapons (a broad classification it ‘AOW’ covers any weapon not covered in the other categories), destructive devices and explosives.
After nearly a decade of purchasing conventional firearms from gun stores and becoming something of a collector and “Gun Nut” I thought I would apply for an “NFA” weapon. At the current time I live in Washington State and am restricted to suppressors, AOW, destructive devices and that’s about it. States can restrict what type of NFA weapons they allow to be possessed in their state. For example, Washington will allow you to own a 60mm mortar (destructive device) but not a sawed off double barreled shotgun. California (one of the most anti-gun states) will let you have a machine gun but not a suppressor. You have to ask your self what people where thinking when they made these laws?!
http://partisan1976.wordpress.com/
In October of 2006 I decided to purchace my first National Firearms Act (NFA) controlled weapon specifically a suppressor, commonly refered to as a “silencer”, for my .22 caliber semi-automatic pistol. Contrary to popular belief it is completely legal to purchase and own not only suppressors but a variety of other firearms such as machineguns, short barreled rifles, shotguns, Any Other Weapons (a broad classification it ‘AOW’ covers any weapon not covered in the other categories), destructive devices and explosives.
After nearly a decade of purchasing conventional firearms from gun stores and becoming something of a collector and “Gun Nut” I thought I would apply for an “NFA” weapon. At the current time I live in Washington State and am restricted to suppressors, AOW, destructive devices and that’s about it. States can restrict what type of NFA weapons they allow to be possessed in their state. For example, Washington will allow you to own a 60mm mortar (destructive device) but not a sawed off double barreled shotgun. California (one of the most anti-gun states) will let you have a machine gun but not a suppressor. You have to ask your self what people where thinking when they made these laws?!
http://partisan1976.wordpress.com/
people tryna say this dude was set up yet he gave his money to a dude to buy guns. thats not a setup, thats a dumb nigga right there. He was living nice and lavish should have left that shit alone cause now all his endorsements is shit are gone. now if he didnt want the silencers he could have said no-i dont want those but he didn't..so what does that mean? he wanted the shit. another time where the bgol militant crew picks the wrong person to try and come up with a defense for.
It is a common misconception that machine guns, silencers (suppressors), sawed-off shotguns, and short barreled rifles are illegal to own. This is entirely untrue. Your Constitutional Right to Bear Arms is guaranteed by the Bill of Rights. The National Firearms Act of 1934 (Title 26, USC Chapter 53) and the Gun Control Act of 1968 make formal provisions for the private ownership of these weapons. Individuals (ie. non-firearms dealer or police dept.) are allowed to purchase machineguns that are classified as "Transferable", that is, weapons that were registered as machine guns prior to May of 1986. Since there are a finite number of these weapons, prices are continually rising. Silencers, Sawed-off Shotguns, and Short Barreled Rifles are still in current productions, so the prices of these items remains fairly constant. For an Individual the requirements to purchase these weapons are:
1. Be a US Citizen at least 21 years old
2. Be of sane mind
3. Not an abuser of drugs or alcohol
4. Have never been convicted of a felony
5. Pay a $200.00 Federal Transfer Tax on each weapon purchased. (This is a one-time tax, not a yearly tax)
6. Fill out BATF Form 4 and submit to ATF. This involves getting a Signature of the "Chief Law Enforcement Officer" in your area signifying that he has no knowledge that you will use your weapon for anything other that lawful purposes
7. Have your fingerprints/photographs taken and submitted to BATF with the above application.
After approximately 90 days, during which time the FBI runs your prints to verify your identity, etc., the transfer will come back approved. Only after the transfer is approved can you take possession of your item. It is interesting to note that since 1934, when machine guns, silencers, short shotguns/rifles began to be regulated, there has only been one case of a legally owned weapon being used in a crime - and the user was a police officer.
In areas where a person cannot acquire a Law Enforcement Signature because these people would rather violate your rights than let you own one of these items, there is another way. BATF allows Corporations and Trusts to acquire machine guns, silencers, etc. without having to complete the Law Enforcement Certification part of the form. If you have your own Corporation, or you are an Officer in a Corporation, the Corporation can acquire these items, and you, as a Corporate Officer, can keep the item at your home, take it to the range shooting, etc. just as if the item were registered to you. If the Corporation ever dissolves, the item must be transferred out of the Corporation to another individual or Corporation (or Dealer). Because a Corporation is not a person, an FBI fingerprint check is not required which reduces the transfer approval time to about 30 days.
Virginia and Florida Law allows the ownership of legally registered machine guns, silencers, short-barreled rifles/shotguns. If you live in a state other than Virginia or Florida, please contact us to verify the laws in your state. At International Police Supply, we are committed to providing you with the highest quality products and services at the most reasonable prices. Please feel free to e-mail us to discuss your firearms needs or to ask us any questions about acquiring specialized weapons or accessories.
Machineguns are ILLEGAL for individuals in the following States:
DE, DC, HI, NY, WA ; Class 3 dealer only in : CA, IL, IO, KS, MI, NJ, RI, SC
Silencers are ILLEGAL for individuals in the following States (see map below):
DE, DC, HI, IL, MS, MT, NY, NJ, RI; Class 3 dealers only in : CA, KS, MO, MN
http://www.internationalpolicesupply.net/ownmg.htm
1. Be a US Citizen at least 21 years old
2. Be of sane mind
3. Not an abuser of drugs or alcohol
4. Have never been convicted of a felony
5. Pay a $200.00 Federal Transfer Tax on each weapon purchased. (This is a one-time tax, not a yearly tax)
6. Fill out BATF Form 4 and submit to ATF. This involves getting a Signature of the "Chief Law Enforcement Officer" in your area signifying that he has no knowledge that you will use your weapon for anything other that lawful purposes
7. Have your fingerprints/photographs taken and submitted to BATF with the above application.
After approximately 90 days, during which time the FBI runs your prints to verify your identity, etc., the transfer will come back approved. Only after the transfer is approved can you take possession of your item. It is interesting to note that since 1934, when machine guns, silencers, short shotguns/rifles began to be regulated, there has only been one case of a legally owned weapon being used in a crime - and the user was a police officer.
In areas where a person cannot acquire a Law Enforcement Signature because these people would rather violate your rights than let you own one of these items, there is another way. BATF allows Corporations and Trusts to acquire machine guns, silencers, etc. without having to complete the Law Enforcement Certification part of the form. If you have your own Corporation, or you are an Officer in a Corporation, the Corporation can acquire these items, and you, as a Corporate Officer, can keep the item at your home, take it to the range shooting, etc. just as if the item were registered to you. If the Corporation ever dissolves, the item must be transferred out of the Corporation to another individual or Corporation (or Dealer). Because a Corporation is not a person, an FBI fingerprint check is not required which reduces the transfer approval time to about 30 days.
Virginia and Florida Law allows the ownership of legally registered machine guns, silencers, short-barreled rifles/shotguns. If you live in a state other than Virginia or Florida, please contact us to verify the laws in your state. At International Police Supply, we are committed to providing you with the highest quality products and services at the most reasonable prices. Please feel free to e-mail us to discuss your firearms needs or to ask us any questions about acquiring specialized weapons or accessories.
Machineguns are ILLEGAL for individuals in the following States:
DE, DC, HI, NY, WA ; Class 3 dealer only in : CA, IL, IO, KS, MI, NJ, RI, SC
Silencers are ILLEGAL for individuals in the following States (see map below):
DE, DC, HI, IL, MS, MT, NY, NJ, RI; Class 3 dealers only in : CA, KS, MO, MN
http://www.internationalpolicesupply.net/ownmg.htm
i realized that some people just refuse to use their brains. ATL sportsfan made a lot of good comments addressing this. i swear people are trying to justify a crime versus another crime but its like when you were little you dont get off cause your brother did something worse, you both get punished and if only one gets caught, one does the punishment. some of these idiots are not using common sense. fact is if you dont like the laws you can get them changed through the proper channels and movements but in the course of doing that, breaking them in ridiculous ways isn't going to help especially with no reason. now having one or two guns for protection is one thing....but a fucking safe with multiple weapons and silencers is planning an attack...and you supposed to be a rich street nigga..shouldnt there be multiple levels between you and the shit itself?
you got people so stuck on trying to remain some element of street cred on here its sickening. I understand he may be your hero but lets keep it real he is no MLK. he has said some good things but to be this irresponsible is insane. It's just like some of you think if you admit this was stupid someone is gonna revoke ya hood cards...
you got people so stuck on trying to remain some element of street cred on here its sickening. I understand he may be your hero but lets keep it real he is no MLK. he has said some good things but to be this irresponsible is insane. It's just like some of you think if you admit this was stupid someone is gonna revoke ya hood cards...
WHEN U R A FELON, IT'S ILLEGAL TO OWN A FIRE ARM. AND IF THE HOOD IS THAT DANGEROUS THAT YOU HAVE TO BUY A GUN, YOU'RE A MILLIONAIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!! STAY THE FUCK OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!! IF MY BOY GOT KILLED, I'M NOT FUCKING AROUND THERE NO MORE. BUT SINCE YOU HAVE TO PUT ON THAT THUG PERSONA TO KEEP IT REAL... NOW HE CAN KEEP IT REAL IN JAIL.
cosign
VERY TRUE..........I'm amazed at all the cats on here happy because of another man's bad luck. I would understand if he went on a shooting spree in the hood and killed brothers everwhere, but he didn't. That type of entrapment would damn near get anybody pinched with what they had. be honest with yourself if some cats came through with that kind of weaponry, out the trunk for the low........Even with no intent, that type of shit you get even if it is for collection purposes.....you never know what the fuck may happen in your life....On the real, they'd fuk alot of brothas in the hood with that pitch... It's really not as hard as it looks, we are on a message board talking about this ish. Looking at an open trunk and you got the money to purchase, that's a rap! It's fuk up but cut the bruh some slack, he still have a family no matter how bad of a dumb ass he may be in your eyes!
no one is happy that he going to jail. but you cant feel sorry for him when there are people who would die to have his opportunities and here he is blowing it. people get being realistic confused with joy. truthfully im neither happy nor sad-i dont give a shit, but i am bothered by the amount of people who cant see the reality that this dude made a concious decision and has to live with it. the willingness to confuse yourself into believing that its not his fault is crazy.
and it isnt entrapment because he knowingly and wittingly contracted dude to buy the stuff for him. he knows he isnt allowed to posess a gun and he had them anyway and loaded which he already knows is illegal.
and it isnt entrapment because he knowingly and wittingly contracted dude to buy the stuff for him. he knows he isnt allowed to posess a gun and he had them anyway and loaded which he already knows is illegal.
but if ya dont know you can get legal Silencers in GA...
FULLY AUTO MACHINE GUNS ARE LEGAL..GET THE RIGHT PAPER WORK..ECT
BUT WHAT I WANNA KNOW WHY DIDNT HE JUST GO 2 A GUN SHOW?...NO BACKGROUND CHECK JUS HAVE YA HOMIES COP SOME SHIT
WHATEVER TYPE OF WEAPON YOU WANT THE RULES DONT APPLY...JUST MY 2CENTS.. IM OUT
FULLY AUTO MACHINE GUNS ARE LEGAL..GET THE RIGHT PAPER WORK..ECT
BUT WHAT I WANNA KNOW WHY DIDNT HE JUST GO 2 A GUN SHOW?...NO BACKGROUND CHECK JUS HAVE YA HOMIES COP SOME SHIT
WHATEVER TYPE OF WEAPON YOU WANT THE RULES DONT APPLY...JUST MY 2CENTS.. IM OUT
First they write
4xx Creekview Lane in College Park
then the write
429 Creekview Lane in College Park
What the fuck was the point of that?
4xx Creekview Lane in College Park
then the write
429 Creekview Lane in College Park
What the fuck was the point of that?
I'm not saying that it's not his fault at all..........It's definetely his fault at the end of the day, but there are mofos around with grenades in the hood with no intenetions to blow some shit but to have because they came across that shit in the streets and copped it.
It's like fuckin somebody on some one night stand shit.....you are in the clouds about pullin that shit off but you only second guess that shit if you get the one night stand pregnant........You'll still hit that that broad knowing that could happen........I'm just saying that the misfortune with the gun wasn't that hard to fall into.
what cha know about that???????????
the only thing fishy here is your inability to absorb details.
you virtually fucked up each component of this case. what kind of bizarro filter are you applying to get shit so twisted?
I swear I cant stand BGOL sometimes this board is becoming filled Mostly with self righteous HATING ASS FAGS, coward ass scared PUSSIES & kkkrackas ... Its like yall get off by seeing another black man with legal troubles fall victim to this racist oppressive system that created aids for you & says your 3/4 human & targets our black fathers, brothers, uncles, and sons. Yall worst than BITCHES No MAN is gonna let another man tell him how to defend & protect himself felon or not FUCK A LAW if you do your a PUSSIES.
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Does anyone know how much time he's facing?
DD,
thanks for the link. i read the entire affidavit. now let's revisit your comments:
setup?
clifford harris straw purchased approximately TWENTY FIVE firearms through his employee PRIOR TO the purchases of the machine guns and silencers.
NEXT.
ah, the good old "it's not mine" defense.
first off, it's illegal for clifford harris to be in possession of those firearms PERIOD. even if they didn't belong to him.
second, they were found in HIS residence, in HIS bedroom, in HIS closet, in HIS safe which required FINGERPRINT ID to gain entrance.
third, they were purchased with HIS money, and they already have the bank records to corroborate.
so that's a m.f. WRAP.
FALSE.
clifford harris' OWN words on saturday october 13th before his arrest debunk that suspicion.
FALSE.
loaded firearms (both rifles and handguns) were found in AND out of the locked safe.
your only legit bone of contention so far.
there was no mention in the affidavit that the cooperating witness indicated an interest in purchasing or delivering silencers to clifford harris prior to the controlled delivery on saturday october 13th.
this is stupid and fucked up. ima huge t.i. fan, i understand that his friend got killed and his still has ties to the steets, but when ur at the financial level and success level that he is and ur a felon on probation then u have to be more careful than that. if ur gonna have illigeal guns for protection then they should never touch your hands until neccessary...not even when ur buying them from sum1 u think is with u...u really cant get caught w/ ur hands dirty like that. he really let his crew and everyone on his label down b/c he made alot of jobs for those ppl
and oh yea...fuck the police
and oh yea...fuck the police
felons dont have that right and plus he got bread so y not pick up a hobby that wont put his dumb ass n jail
Damn Cranrab, break it down
thanks for taking the time to respond, but just to refute a few statements...
- the bodyguard claims he brought 25 guns, but only 6 were recovered, its pretty obvious to me that this bodyguard was a gun runner. he only worked for T.I. for 3 months, yet had been purchasing guns for 18 months. Nowhere is it proven that T.I. recieve 25 guns.
- those silencers were introduced in the car by the informant, T.I. wouldnt have to ask "no flash, no bang?" if he had previous knowledge of those silencers, but thats just me using common sense (or maybe giving the brother the benefit of the doubt)
- nowhere in the affidavit does it say that those guns were found elsewhere in the house, they were all found in the same bedroom closet
but its all relative for now
no disrespect, but his homeboy was killed when they were out of town. Shots were fired into the vehicle after they left the club/party
yeah but what happened to let it begin with if you go to a club perform your songs and go home dont stand there and throw money on negros like you they savior not everybody takes that shit. the shooting was some dumbass shit dont get me wrong but so was that move too
Them dudes was just hating because you can't go to a performance these days without someone throwing some money into the crowd. Really, I hope he don't get no more than 5 yrs pen time. My homeboys pops got caught up on that felon possessing a weapon charge, but he killed a dude. It was self defense though. He caught ten yrs...5 locked up and 5 on paper.
umm yes it is because at the end of the day you're still wrong and you know it. if you only feel bad when someone else finds out you have problems. someone opens a trunk full of guns and you're a millionaire ex-felon you need to be smart. but thats not even what happened, he requested them shits so your scenario is isnt relevent.
and what does any of thathave to do with anything. i dont care if the bodyguard was a baptist minister its still illegal for TI to receive the guns. stop confusing the issue and grabbing at straws to try and find an excuse the point is-he is not allowed to have them. and u cannot get around that.
as far as Pac... Suge used him as a shield.. Suge picked his ass up... thats why he came out with a paper cut and Pac got hit sooooo many times.... I'm just saying... but back to the post, I am sure T.I's PO should him the sentence about he could could have any firearms...so he is a dumbass. Should have just moved to Montana if ATL wasnt safe
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