Swine Flu - "Fear" Tactic?

[Lamarr]

Forgive my conspiritorial ways, In a nutshell, this is a serious scam to cash in on some serious profits for "Big Pharma", with legal immunity provided from the govt! Do we really need this? Not only do I feel the issue is blown out of proportion, (seeing that 36,000 people die from seasonal flu every year) but there are many articles that describe harmful side-effects after taking the vaccines. They tryin to kill us wit these shots, please listen to the "60 Minutes" interviews and check out the following articles

Nerve damage after flu-shot http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5hUB4EyHm4FJEaTz2LzjY9skDOmmA

A third of nurses won't take swine flu vaccine - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1207270/A-nurses-refuse-swine-flu-jab.html

Legal immunity for Vaccine manufacturers - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31971355/

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Good Stuff​

 

[Carolina_Bully]

man fuck that shot... if i had to decide how to die, i'd rather die from the flu then a shot that clearly needs to be tested and explained more!! Fucked up thing is they're going to try to force it on us more by scare tactics towards the people whom don't know!! why create more issues and why can't we just live? the greatest worries on the earth aren't from the everyday people, its the people that control the everyday people!! "It was written"...take that how you want but do whats necessary!!

good post and i hope they don't sleep on it!! please post in the main forum!!

 

[QueEx]

Inoculation Misinformation

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Claims that the "swine flu" vaccine is dangerous range
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[cranrab]

Re: Inoculation Misinformation

good post.

i'm always disheartened to see the number of people (especially parents) who get hoodwinked on BGOL.

 

[followup]

Re: Inoculation Misinformation

I am hesitant to get the live nasal vaccine even though they are recommending it at work. I'm also not eager to be one of the first for the injection when it becomes available. I did, however, get the regular flu shot since it has been tested and used for years in different strains.

 

[Panameno718]

Where Are the Vaccine Pied Pipers Leading Us?

Wired.com, that Conde Nast online publication that caters to techy people, has published a wave of articles critical of those who oppose massive over-vaccination of the American population.

These articles declare those individuals who oppose mass vaccination to be "misinformants." Celebrities like Jenny McCarthy, Jim Carrey, Don Imus and Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who openly oppose submission to mass vaccination, are belittled. These articles claim those who don’t get vaccinated are endangering everybody else.

Here are the provoking headlines of those wired.com articles:

The Misinformants: Prominent Voices in the Anti-Vaccine Crusade
How to Win an Argument About Vaccines
H1N1 Flu Shot: 3 Major Fears Debunked
An Epidemic of Fear: How Panicked Parents Skipping Shots Endangers Us All
These wired.com articles are written by skilled writers and they make strong though narrow arguments. The second title, "How to win an argument about vaccines" suggests those who oppose vaccination are irrational and ill informed and their thinking needs to be changed by those of superior intelligence.

The war is not vaccines versus alternatives, but is characterized as science versus pseudoscience. The authors of the wired.com reports haven’t the brainpower or critical thinking to question the twelve published studies that conclude vaccines don’t cause autism. What matters is that their god of science has been challenged. And there may be nothing wrong with those studies, it’s just that the vaccine proponents aren’t looking outside the box, about questions that aren’t being asked but should be.

Here is how reporter Amy Wallace poses the battle:

"And finally, the so called ‘bogus’ treatments for autism don’t exist in opposition to scientific treatments, they exist because of an absence of scientific treatments. There is no cure and as of yet, no known cause for autism. The medical community is still working out how to even test kids for autism. How can you possibly fault a parent for being fearful and wanting to help their child and using whatever method is available to them. Every disease has gone through this phase, before cancer had a clear cut medical approach to treatment people tried all sorts of treatments that we now consider scientifically unsound."


Of course there are no cures for cancer either. Cancer treatment results in a faster demise of the patient. So the example provided here is flawed.

Recognize that vaccines, antibiotics and anti-flu drugs are driving humanity towards a box canyon. Eventually there will be no antibiotics, vaccines or man-made drugs that germs haven’t developed resistance towards. Follow these vaccine pied pipers and there will be a day when billions of people die of needless plagues because of over-reliance upon vaccines.

When that day comes, humanity will be using remedies that are now being ridiculed by the proponents of vaccines – vitamin D, vitamin C, the trace mineral selenium and extracts from oregano (carvacrol), garlic (allicin) and grape skins (resveratrol, quercetin) to quell future epidemics without treatment resistance.

Amy Wallace recounts here experience at an anti-vaccine conference:

"To a one, the speakers told parents not to despair. Vitamin D would help, said one doctor and supplement salesman who projected the equation "No vaccines + more vitamin d = no autism" onto a huge screen during his presentation. (If only it were that simple.) Others talked of the powers of enzymes, enemas, infrared saunas, glutathione drips, chelation therapy…"

Yes, we who oppose unquestioned vaccination want good scientific underpinnings behind treatments for infectious disease too. It just depends upon what science you are reading.

How about "Vitamin effects on the immune system: vitamins A and D take centre stage," recently published in the journal Nature Review Immunology (Sept 2008 8(9):685–98), written by researchers at Harvard Medical School.


Vaccine inventor Paul Offit calls advocates for these natural remedies "autisms false prophets," and wrote a book with the same title. He says any remedies that currently exist are promoted by a dangerous "cottage industry of false hope."

What’s in the closet?

Modern medicine wouldn’t be hiding any of its vaccine mistakes in the closet, would it? Uh, think again, a vaccination program in 1993 was so lethal that it set back the life expectancy of Americans for the first time since the 1918 Spanish flu, but it was completely white-washed – never even reported. (See here.)

As you read my rebuttal to the vaccine cartel here, you should not be intimidated by scientists or doctors who claim to know more than you do. I’m going to take you on a short course to examine some recent research studies for yourself. You can click on the links to read the abstracts of these studies.

Researchers at the University of Minnesota note that prenatal viral infection is associated with the development of schizophrenia and autism. These researchers took laboratory mice and exposed them to flu viruses in the womb and found that this produced a gene expression pattern consistent with what is seen in autism. [Schizophrenia Research 2009 Jul; 112(1–3):46–53.]

In 2005 the same researchers showed, for the first time, that prenatal flu virus infection in early pregnancy leads to "alterations in a subset of genes in brains of offspring potentially leading to permanent changes in brain structure and function." [Synapse. 2005 Aug; 57(2):91–9.]

Here is what the mouse brain looks like after it has been exposed to the flu virus in the womb. The brains of flu-infected mice are shrinking (atrophy – red and yellow)..............

http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi128.html

 

[Joe Money]

Bump. Who’s taking that corona vaccine?

 

[RoadRage]

Bump. Who’s taking that corona vaccine?

Are you fearing the science of being able to make an effective safe corona vaccine or are you suggesting that all efforts to make such a vaccine will be dubious?