You as usual are mudding the arguments. Things are tangible. Putting value on things is man made. Example, gold and diamonds. Government as a concept was conceived by man to establish order. Just like the concepts of family and law. Without order there is chaos and we revert to animalistic law.
Yes, but there are many ways to establish order.
Who says the current order or new world order is the best way to protect the interests of man, in general?
I say only honkeys and their sycophants like the existing world order.
You keep trying to argue a moot point. Government supplies the common duties that we as a society deemed as too important to allow profit making entities to take on as well as making sure that standards are adhered to.
No, we as a society did not deem this. The Federal government assumed these responsibilities from REAL people to extend its authority over us. It could just have easily allowed a marketplace for all these services and simply regulated it.
Instead, the Federal government chose to build a massive bureaucracy.
Things like police, education, roads, schools, EMT have all been shown to be poorly delivered by the government, at least to non-whites.
In fact, non-whites are afraid to use the so-called "common duties" government provides because their quality is so inferior (sort of like any socialist state, Russia, Cuba, China, ...) to private alternatives.
Hence, you have private "police" forces, private schools/universities, private roads, and private hospitals.
And, remedy in the courts would be more responsive if the government didn't make us subjects (like we are serfs or inferiors to some crown regent) but rather sovereigns.
The common defense, the safety of our food and drugs as well as the work place and communities, contracts are enforced and interpreted, rights are respected to name a few. These tasks are not inexpensive to perform. Business won't do them for free. They require taxes, the cost of for the tasks. Because the government enforces these standards, we have a high standard of living as a country as compared to those countries that don't assign these duties to their governments.
Of course, business wouldn't do them free and neither does the government. Our standard of living is high, not because of the government. Rather, in spite of the government, we HAD a high standard of living.
Government didn't create the light bulb, car, computer, AC/DC, electronics, radio, the telephone, toilet paper, indoor plumbing, or anything it uses.
You have it backward.
The Federal government is huge BECAUSE of the country's wealth. The country's wealth IS NOT a result of government.
The government brings us wars, recession, spending, debt, inflation, and for non-whites, institutional racism.
The government doesn't just magically create wealth to provide these services. It takes the wealth from REAL people and inefficiently spends it on other REAL people.
Are you saying food, workplace, drugs oversight couldn't be done better, more efficiently, and more responsively in the marketplace?
When a private business does bad, it fails or you take it to court.
When the government does bad, you're screwed. It won't fail and you can't take it to court.
You don't sound as if you are being logical. You think the barter system is still in effect and party to party contracts will be enforced just by shaking hands.
How did you jump to this conclusion?
Again, your issue is with taxes in general. I can't help you there. Do you want a flat tax? I would guess that you wouldn't mind an across the board 15% tax on your income, period, but many millionaires and billions wouldn't want that. As was stated, most don't pay any taxes. Taxes are the cost of society with high standards of living. How about no taxes. Will business build costly infrastructures? Will they pay to educate the skilled work force they want and need? Argue theory with economists. This is the real world.
Faulty premise, if you are saying a high standard of living is dependent on high taxes.
Yes, business will build costly infrastructure if there is reasonable potential for profit. (You need to do some factory tours if you think private business doesn't build infrastructure).
Yes, they will pay to train (I hate the word educate) the workforce and pay them competitive wages in the marketplace.
Are you some kind of communist?

This is extremely political. 30 years ago the finical sector was less than 5% of the GNP and our dept was less than $1 trillions. Today it is about 40% of the GNP and we have over a $10 trillion debt and rising. The tax burden has sifted from the investor class to the working class.
I haven't heard this, but it shows the Federal government has doomed our future to a drastically reduced standard of living.
Again, this country was formed because the founders did not want the privileged to take advantage of the masses. We did not have massive inheritance until the robber barons of the late 1800s, at which point we formed an income tax and disallowed monopolies.
Are these the same people who allowed slavery in THEIR constitution?
Some argue the robber barons created the income tax to consolidate their power further.
Isn't Microsoft a monopoly. In fact, isn't the Federal Reserve Bank of New York a monopoly on the Federal Reserve Note.
The oil trust still has a monopoly on energy production in this country and write the energy policy to boot.
In fact, there is a drug trust, media trust, telecommunications trust, food trust, retail trust...
It's like it's 1900 all over again.
Wealth is not created in vacuum. Remember the Roaring Twenties, the stock market crash and the bank runs?
It was all an illusion supported by the Federal government and created by the Federal Reserve.
World trade never reached the levels it did of 1913 during the Roaring Twenties.
Why?
Because the governments (US, Britain, Germany, France, Russia, Ottoman Empire) did such a great job destroying so much wealth and trade in World War I through war.
It took decades to recover, despite the so-called appearance of the Roaring Twenties.
What? Sounds as if you answered your own question.
National Institutes of Health
United States Department of Energy
That's why there is government to make sure the rules are protected.
You are stuck on this moot point! However in times we do run debts. Wars, economic down times, when we drained the treasury to fight the cold war, cut taxes for the top 5% while raise taxes for everyone else. Are these not political?
Are you in the top 5% of income earners? Making over $250,000/yr? Obama just gave most taxes payers an income tax cut.
Our standard of living has dropped since Reagan’s supply side debacle.
Our standard of living has been dropping since the 1960s. It accelerated during the 1970s. Reagan, to provide an appearance of prosperity, decided to live "ghetto rich" (excuse the vernacular).
He borrowed like crazy to give the illusion that prosperity was here and wealth was being created. Unfortunately, Americans thought it was REAL wealth and believed you could borrow/spend to prosperity.
Dumb.
Oh yea! Everyone must pay their share. If they paid their fair share in the beginning we would not have many of this problems.
I don't get this fair share thing. Income tax is not fair. There is no share of anything.
Someone gains and another loses. That is the way government operates.
Good, because the military is now over 50% of government spending. Not counting all of the secret projects hidden under classified expenditures. Would we be any less safe if the military was 50% less than it is now? It would still be larger than any other nation’s defense budget.
Personally, a large standing army is a crime against the taxpayer.
The average person pays more in federal taxes than the top 5%. The conservatives/right wing never include FICA taxes in the tax argument. If you make over $95,000 you pay none.
Could you imagine if we had implemented the Bush social security privation that the republicans/conservatives/right wing wanted back in 2003/2004? You think we have problems now.
Just a thought
I do believe the Republicans lost their mind believing you can have a big military AND low taxes AND small government.
Then again, Obama and the current Congress seems to be following suit, so maybe it's just Washington DC today.