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This on going thread will chronicle the right/conservative bias.

Oh, So You Think CNN Is Neutral Or Liberal?

CNN want the Republicans to win the presidential and congressional elections without question. They are just not as overt as Faux Snooze.


source: Media Matters.org


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Blitzer again ignored Bush's inconsistent statements on Pakistani sovereignty
Summary: In a recent interview, CNN's Wolf Blitzer did not challenge President Bush when he agreed that "absolutely" he "would authorize U.S. troops to go into Pakistan if [he] had actionable intelligence on Osama bin Laden's whereabouts or other top-ranking Al Qaeda members." When Bush stressed that his position 'hasn't changed," Blitzer did not note that Bush's September 2006 statement -- that he would "[a]bsolutely" order U.S. troops into Pakistan to capture bin Laden -- was inconsistent with a statement he had made five days earlier -- that the United States would not send troops into Pakistan to hunt for bin Laden unless it was "invited" to do so, because Pakistan is a "sovereign nation."

During an interview that aired on the November 28 edition of CNN's The Situation Room, host Wolf Blitzer asked President Bush: "[A] year ago September ... you told me that 'absolutely' -- that was your word -- you would authorize U.S. troops to go into Pakistan if you had actionable intelligence on Osama bin Laden's whereabouts or other top-ranking Al Qaeda members. Is that still your position?" When Bush replied, "Yeah," Blitzer asked, "Hasn't changed?" Bush responded: "No, hasn't changed." During the interview, on-screen text read: "Would Send Troops to Pakistan: Position 'Hasn't Changed' " But as Media Matters for America documented, Bush's answer during that September 20, 2006, CNN interview -- that he would "[a]bsolutely" order U.S. troops into Pakistan to capture bin Laden -- was inconsistent with a statement he had made five days earlier -- that the United States would not send troops into Pakistan to hunt for bin Laden unless it was "invited" to do so, because Pakistan is a "sovereign nation."

During that September 2006 interview, Blitzer also did not challenge Bush on his statement that he would "[a]bsolutely" order U.S. troops into Pakistan to capture bin Laden. When Blitzer asked Bush for clarification -- "Even though the Pakistanis say that's their sovereign territory?" -- Bush replied, "We would take the action necessary to bring him to justice":

BLITZER: If you had good, actionable intelligence in Pakistan -- where they were -- would you give the order to kill him or capture him and go into Pakistan?

BUSH: Absolutely.

BLITZER: Even though the Pakistanis say that's their sovereign territory?

BUSH: We would take the action necessary to bring him to justice.

But five days earlier, at a September 15, 2006, White House press conference, Bush had affirmed his previously stated position that "the idea of sending special forces to Pakistan to hunt down bin Laden was a strategy that would not work," because "Pakistan is a sovereign nation":

Q.: Thank you, Mr. President. Earlier this week, you told a group of journalists that you thought the idea of sending special forces to Pakistan to hunt down bin Laden was a strategy that would not work.

BUSH: Yes.

Q.: Now, recently you've also --

BUSH: Because, first of all, Pakistan is a sovereign nation.

Q.: Well, recently you've also described bin Laden as a sort of modern day Hitler or Mussolini. And I'm wondering why, if you can explain why you think it's a bad idea to send more resources to hunt down bin Laden, wherever he is?

BUSH: We are, Richard. Thank you. Thanks for asking the question. They were asking me about somebody's report, well, special forces here -- Pakistan -- if he is in Pakistan, as this person thought he might be, who is asking the question -- Pakistan is a sovereign nation. In order for us to send thousands of troops into a sovereign nation, we've got to be invited by the government of Pakistan.

Secondly, the best way to find somebody who is hiding is to enhance your intelligence and to spend the resources necessary to do that; then when you find him, you bring him to justice.

As recently as August 2007, the White House was stressing the need in fighting terrorism to respect Pakistan's sovereignty. As the Chicago Tribune noted, at an August 1 press briefing, then-White House press secretary Tony Snow said: "[O]ur approach to Pakistan is one that not only respects the sovereignty of Pakistan as a sovereign government, but is also designed to work in a way where we are working in cooperation with the local government." From the August 1 press briefing:

Q.: I gather, Tony, from your answer to Martha that you don't think very much of Barack Obama's suggestion, he'd send U.S. troops into Pakistan to take care of those safe havens.

SNOW: Well, let me just say we think that our approach to Pakistan is one that not only respects the sovereignty of Pakistan as a sovereign government, but is also designed to work in a way where we are working in cooperation with the local government. So we think that our policy and our approach is the right one.

Q.: Would he not be respecting the sovereignty of -

SNOW: I'm not going to comment on Barack Obama's campaign statements. I'm going to tell you about ours.

Additionally, on July 23, Snow responded to questions about why the Bush administration would "wait for the Pakistanis" to attack a "safe haven": "Because Pakistan is a sovereign government." From the press briefing:

Q.: Tony, when you talk about actionable intelligence, though, you've got a safe haven there, people who want to attack the United States. Why not be aggressive? Why not go after them?

SNOW: Well, the fact -

Q.: Why wait for the Pakistanis -

SNOW: Because Pakistan is a sovereign government, and furthermore, we've made it clear that we will offer whatever assistance, technical and otherwise, they have. I outlined a lot of that during a briefing last week. What you're asking is, does the United States need to take unilateral action. We are working in coordination with the Pakistani government.

As Media Matters has documented, Blitzer has repeatedly ignored Bush administration inconsistency on this issue.

From the November 28 edition of CNN's The Situation Room:

BLITZER: Let me ask a quick question about Pervez Musharraf, who took off his uniform today, the president of Pakistan. This is what you've been asking him to do. Do you believe this is a significant step in trying to restore democracy in Pakistan?

BUSH: I think it is -- I do. It is something that a lot of people doubted would ever happen. And he told me he would take off his uniform. And I appreciate that, that he kept his word.

I've also said that President Musharraf is a person who has done a lot for Pakistan democracy. And, in my judgment, in order to get Pakistan back on the road to democracy, he's got to suspend the emergency law before elections.

BLITZER: But am I hearing it right? Do you still have a lot of confidence in Pervez Musharraf -- that he will work with you to find Osama bin Laden, who presumably is holed up somewhere along the border with Afghanistan?

BUSH: He has been an absolute reliable partner in dealing with extremists and radicals. And, you know, it's a tough situation in the remote parts of Pakistan, but I -- there's many examples of where the Pakistanis have, in cooperation with the U.S., brought to justice members of Al Qaeda's hierarchy -- and I'm thankful for that.

I also hope that he, you know, enhances Pakistani democracy, and taking off his uniform is a strong first step. And having elections that are out from underneath the emergency law would be a clear signal that he's put Pakistan back on the road.

BLITZER: We're almost out of time, but a year ago September, when we spoke up in New York -- you were there for the U.N. General Assembly -- you told me that "absolutely" -- that was your word -- you would authorize U.S. troops to go into Pakistan if you had actionable intelligence on Osama bin Laden's whereabouts or other top-ranking Al Qaeda members.

Is that still your position?

BUSH: Yeah.

BLITZER: Hasn't changed?

BUSH: No, hasn't changed.

BLITZER: Mr. President, thanks very much.

BUSH: Yes, sir.

BLITZER: Good luck.

—B.J.L.
 
So the "Liberal Media" is giving Obama a free ride? So why have they perpetuated the lie about Obama not wanting to visit the troops in Iraq?

source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/30/wapo-mccains-troop-attack_n_115800.html

The mainstream media has been reluctant to call McCain's "Troops" attack ad what it is -- false. But the Washington Post devotes three pages to debunking the charge in a front page story today:

For four days, Sen. John McCain and his allies have accused Sen. Barack Obama of snubbing wounded soldiers by canceling a visit to a military hospital because he could not take reporters with him, despite no evidence that the charge is true.


The attacks are part of a newly aggressive McCain operation whose aim is to portray the Democratic presidential candidate as a craven politician more interested in his image than in ailing soldiers, a senior McCain adviser said. They come despite repeated pledges by the Republican that he will never question his rival's patriotism.

The essence of McCain's allegation is that Obama planned to take a media entourage, including television cameras, to Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany during his week-long foreign trip, and that he canceled the visit when he learned he could not do so. "I know that, according to reports, that he wanted to bring media people and cameras and his campaign staffers," McCain said Monday night on CNN's "Larry King Live."

The Obama campaign has denied that was the reason he called off the visit. In fact, there is no evidence that he planned to take anyone to the American hospital other than a military adviser, whose status as a campaign staff member sparked last-minute concern among Pentagon officials that the visit would be an improper political event.

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Despite serious and repeated queries about the charge over several days, McCain and his allies continued yesterday to question Obama's patriotism by focusing attention on the canceled hospital visit.
 
T.O.,

I agree with the thrusts of this thread: McCain's "Troops" attack ad is -- false. But, on another note, it seems to me that the so-called Mainstream Media ("MSM") is just another buzz word and hard to define exactly what is and what isn't, MSM. For example, isn't the Washington Post part of the MSM ??? How many MSM outlets must carry a particular story before its MSM endorsed/approved or disapproved ???

And, it seems to be, at least, that whether the press, in general, is liberal or conservative seems to depend upon where a person is standing. If the person has liberal tendencies, most of the press (the MSM included) is conservative and attacks liberal viewpoints; but, if the person has conservative tendencies, most of the press (the MSM included) is liberal and and attacks liberal viewpoints.

Do you see it differently ???

QueEx
 
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T.O.,

I agree with the thrusts of this thread: McCain's "Troops" attack ad is -- false. But, on another note, it seems to me that the so-called Mainstream Media ("MSM") is just another buzz word and hard to define exactly what is and what isn't, MSM. For example, isn't the Washington Post part of the MSM ??? How many MSM outlets must carry a particular story before its MSM endorsed/approved or disapproved ???

And, it seems to be, at least, that whether the press, in general, is liberal or conservative seems to depend upon where a person is standing. If the person has liberal tendencies, most of the press (the MSM included) is conservative and attacks liberal viewpoints; but, if the person has conservative tendencies, most of the press (the MSM included) is liberal and and attacks liberal viewpoints.

Do you see it differently ???

QueEx

First off, CNN was where I first became aware of this story. The day after Obama returned from his overseas trip, they floated this story. Their is no mainstream liberal media, at least not anymore. Not in my recent memory. On the continuum of conservative vs. liberal, right vs. left, the extreme right for example being the antebellum American confederacy, fascist Italy and Christian white supremacy groups and the left being a pure Marxist utopian ideology, the American news media is by far right of center. They are corporate and capitalist controlled and operate with shareholder profit based motives. The only goal of a corporation is to make a profit. Ever since the Reagan administration, the media has move so far to the right, anything that deviates from this current political perspective appears liberal. For example, during the six years of total republican control of the government, the main stream media hardly questioned the war, the attack on first amendment rights and the energy policy of the Bush presidency. Now, with out question they are reporting that the democrats are stonewalling domestic oil drilling with out going back and laying out how the republicans did nothing leading up to this point. The media reports of the lack of Obama's experience, but little is reported that McCain was involved with the last big financial meltdown, the savings and loan debocal of the 1980s which to me indicates lack of judgement he has displayed thoughtout is politcal career. The American mainstream media can accurately be describe as more right and right of center. You have News Corp. owned Fox to the lesser but still right of center CBS. Liberal media is not in the mainstream. Is Mother Jones or the Nation magazine mainstream? Make now doubt, Time/Warner, Viacom/CBS, Disney/ABC, GE/NBC and News Corp./Fox would rather have McCain as commander and chief. McCain would more than likely not make them answer for their lack of qualified African Americans in their corporate ranks.
 
T.O.,

What were the news outlets, etc., that you considered to be liberal that existed before the Reagan era ???


QueEx
 
T.O.,

What were the news outlets, etc., that you considered to be liberal that existed before the Reagan era ???


QueEx

The major broadcast news outlets have never been liberal. They were more objective than they are today than they were in the past. Which isn't saying much. Even today, can you find positive news clips of the way African Americans conducted the fight for complete person-hood in the history of television or major news print? Up until the PBS series Eyes On The Prize, there was no compilation of the events of the struggles of African Americans done honestly! I do believe that there was a time when a segment of television tried not to ghettoize African Americans as stereotypical buffoons. The first regularly broadcast of an American TV show in 1939, The Ethel Waters Show, grand niece of Crystal Waters featured no racial stereotypes. In 1956 The Nat King Cole Show ran for a few episodes, without cooning. The 1963 TV series East Side/West Side, about honest urban issues starred Cicely Tyson wearing cornrows! Ed Sullivan regularly had African American stars who could communicate without ghetto slang and broken English, later known as Ebonics or now known as hip hop speak. Make no mistake, media is business who's main goal is to make money. Politics is used for that purpose, which ever the winds blow!
 
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Does it not tout itself as the place for "Breaking News and Views for the Progressive Community." ???

QueEx
 
Does it not tout itself as the place for "Breaking News and Views for the Progressive Community." ???

QueEx

How many people are even aware of this web site? Most Americans that get news receive it from "major" news sources (New York Times, Washington Post, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox), to name the most familiar. You or I seek alternative news sources, but most are ignorant of these options. If they weren't, I doubt that we would be in the mess we are in.
 
Well, what about the Huffington Post ???

Just asking . . .

QueEx

Please describe your definition of "main stream" media so our arguing points are linear. To answer your question, I would strongly assume that almost no one has heard of the Huffington Post as compared to say NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, Fox News, the New York Times or the Washington Post to name some of the most notable. I'm sure if the Huffington Post were as known as you hint, then lies such as Obama being a Muslim would not even be taken seriously.
 
More liberal media bias for Obama right? Did McSame apologize?

Where was the outrage? Double standards.



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