Steve Harvey's National Mentoring Camp: Natural Hair ≠ Success. Thoughts?

[DaAssWatcher]

OP,

which Black colleges? I remember one dean/teacher talking nonsense but never a college as a whole. let alone multiple colleges..just curious

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Fake ass HU aka Hampton.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

it takes generational investments

e.g.

if i do a tech startup tomorrow and want to hire employees

if there is no Black Girls Code and Hidden genius, the black talent pool would be small

These orgs invest in the next generation by providing solid bases of talent that we can hire

So while we are doing our thing in corporate america, we have a responsibility to mentor those coming up to increase the numbers of us

exactly

 

[water]

My thing is if you are going to tell Black kids to cut there hair give them the story in proper context. What Harvey and Perry said is the bullshit coon way.
They tried to put the blame on the kids Black hair without explaining white people are racist pieces of shit that will prevent your progress by any means necessary.

You start a convo like that by telling them"If you personally feel they are denying you entry into the work force and you have to cut your hair do so.If that gets you in the door because it's not a guarantee,then work your ass off and learn all you humanly can and then quietly start your own business with that same knowledge.The Black GOD gave you your Black hair don't ever let anyone say you are worth less with it"

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funny enough experiencing this: "will prevent your progress by any means necessary" made me grow mine

if cacs is looking for anything to impede your progress then you might as well live your life how YOU want and be mentally free to focus and excel

I grew my shit and if they want a reason then there it is....... prefer not to work for pieces of shit that will find some other thing so why spend everyday going into a hostile environment and walk on egg shells?

 

[mark115]

that is exactly what you are doing by not having your own corporations.

ain't nobody saying straighten your hair.....

and there are two separate things at play.

one is getting your foot in the door the other is if and what are the work place dress codes.

most places don't have dress codes per say in regards to hair style.

most have them in regards to dress.....casual, business causal, business.

but at the end stop being so extreme...you know damn well there are people you would not hire based on their appearance.

and all that rah rah shit is so unrealistic.

if your business was sales you would not let an employee go to a potential client with their pants sagging and their draws showing...

and nobody says if you dress this way racism will disappear that is just dumb as rationale.

but if you know racism and biases exist what point are you making but adding to their excuses ?

why not light a cigarette in their office.

go ahead a fart...it's natural.

Bro, I completely agree that we need to start our own business and hire our own. But like you said, until we have that infrastructure in place the vast majority of us will end up working for them.

I do not understand the comparison between natural hair and sagging pants or other forms of un professionalism. Again, natural hair is not a style nor a matter of tatse; that indicates choice and we dont choice our dna.

We need to be treated fairly in the workplace and that includes not haveing to phicicaly alter our bodies to be hired. Why not get a nose job too ?

Its not ra ra to point out that playing their respectability games is not going to work, if it did we wouldn't be still dealing with this issue 50 years after the civli rights act. If its not your hair it will be some othe bs they randomly make up.

Side note : I had dreads back in the day while interning in the mayors office. Only black people had a problem with my hair.

 

[POSTERBOY]

I saw this on Twitter and cringed.... That's all I'll say about this

 

[water]

Bro, I completely agree that we need to start our own business and hire our own. But like you said, until we have that infrastructure in place the vast majority of us will end up working for them.

I do not understand the comparison between natural hair and sagging pants or other forms of un professionalism. Again, natural hair is not a style nor a matter of tatse; that indicates choice and we dont choice our dna.

We need to be treated fairly in the workplace and that includes not haveing to phicicaly alter our bodies to be hired. Why not get a nose job too ?

Its not ra ra to point out that playing their respectability games is not going to work, if it did we wouldn't be still dealing with this issue 50 years after the civli rights act. If its not your hair it will be some othe bs they randomly make up.

Side note : I had dreads back in the day while interning in the mayors office. Only black people had a problem with my hair.

the cooning DNA is strong

harvey's CoonCamp

 

[DaAssWatcher]

That's why I'm working at this coding.They either gonna shut the fuck up and let me work or they can deny me and I'll go elsewhere to build my skills up and do the freelance thing.

 

[water]

That's why I'm working at this coding.They either gonna shut the fuck up and let me work or they can deny me and I'll go elsewhere to build my skills up and do the freelance thing.

yup yup yup

 

[illdog]

 

[shamone]

I remember I heard Steve say on his show he wouldn't let his son get dreads because he wanted to be lawyer and he doesnt know any lawyers or good lawyers with dreads. Then he went on to say something about if you were in need of life saving surgery and the doctor walk in with braids or something would you want him to operate on you,


In my head I thought I wouldn't give a fuck as long as he knew what he was doing.

this goes into his perception of dreadlocks. he doesn't like it. he told a story about a young man talking to him about a job or something to that effect, and all he could see was the young man's hair. he told him he couldn't see pass his hair. the young man cut his hair and steve didn't recognize him. he gave this spill how the young man seen life in a different light.

 

[john blackcorn]

cacs go get 6 figures jobs in silicone valley looking like hippes from the 60's but were told to cut and tame our hair. i do what the fuck i want to with my head. fuck how anyone feels about it

 

[ballscout1]

Bro, I completely agree that we need to start our own business and hire our own. But like you said, until we have that infrastructure in place the vast majority of us will end up working for them.

I do not understand the comparison between natural hair and sagging pants or other forms of un professionalism. Again, natural hair is not a style nor a matter of tatse; that indicates choice and we dont choice our dna.

We need to be treated fairly in the workplace and that includes not haveing to phicicaly alter our bodies to be hired. Why not get a nose job too ?

Its not ra ra to point out that playing their respectability games is not going to work, if it did we wouldn't be still dealing with this issue 50 years after the civli rights act. If its not your hair it will be some othe bs they randomly make up.

Side note : I had dreads back in the day while interning in the mayors office. Only black people had a problem with my hair.

Who determines was is unprofessional behavior ?

I already said that I have never seen natural hair be an issue and I have been working longer than some posting have been alive.

And in 2016 it is far less an issue than it was in the 70's and 80's...

What some are failing to see is that the camp is for boys that need direction and the cutting off the hair is just that.

 

[II Dxnum]

this is what you get when you have steve harvey mentoring kids.

 

[Van Allen]

CUTTING THOSE NAPPY FROS AND DREADS IN MOST CASES IS A GOOD IDEA.

THIS IS WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE WITH DREDS

 

[mailboxpimp]

 

[Camille]

OP,

which Black colleges? I remember one dean/teacher talking nonsense but never a college as a whole. let alone multiple colleges..just curious

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It wasn't the entire college. Hampton restricted cornrows and locs for their MBA program. I thought there was another college also, but when I searched, I couldn't find it. There was a magazine that also had discouraged their interns from wearing natural hair. There have also been elementary/charter schools that have come under fire. The army had a big ruckus as well, but after getting petitions and letters from everyone they relaxed their guidelines.

 

[jivanbrahman]

We want to do what is necessary to get our children working. But at the same time, we want to let them know having dreads, afros, and braids isn't a bad thing. It is our culture and should be embraced; however, teach them these practices scare bitch ass white people.

Therefore, we compromise ourselves temporarily to do what the fuck we want to do eventually.

That's the truth.

You have to teach them like that.

Unadulterated truth.

Exactly. And teach them you can look the way you want when you create your job / business / reality.

 

[jivanbrahman]

Bro respectfully, That is cowardly logic. I do not understand how the prior generation thought they could defeat racism by giving into it and playing respectability politics. Ita a game where the goal posts are forever moving and so we will always loose.

The Natural texture of hair is not a style, hence the term natural. Workplace dress codes that start with the primise that whiteness is the norm and therby margilalize our hair and grooming methods that make since for us should be challenged in every way including in court.We should not be passing yet another unsolved problem to the next generation.

This whole post should be on a t-shirt.

 

[freshnclean]

But in saying this we kind of miss the point

Or i feel when people talk about this stuff we aren't honest with the discussion.

It is NOT for everyone. Every white person ain't a boss or a business person either. Not even most of them are.

It's about those of us who are able to do it, doing it and then hiring worker bees who look like us and building up our own shit.

that's the real thing we should be striving for.

If you're black and have the get up to build a black business no matter what the field, hire MOSTLY black people who are qualified to be in your business and build it up.

When it gets bigger hire more black people

And more and more

That's what these white companies do that we have to "play the game for" keep it a damn 5 to 1 white to other nationality ratio


we need to do the same thing.

When you look at some of these big ass black companies and their employees are nothing but white folks

that's why the fuck we're losing

Even if you factor in those of us who are able to do it, it still relies on a certain personality. If someone has no control of the smaller vices in their life, what makes you think they are responsible to handle bigger ones?

Being Black should obviously be the first criteria when hiring, but the second thing is to make sure they are built for it.

Being a Black owned business isnt enough, you also have to provide quality. For example, there are some Black owned restaurants that think people should support just because they are Black, totally negating the fact they have bad service.....Now on the other hand, there are Black owned restaurant owners who understand professionalism, and go all out to provide high quality service, and that's the business that usually sticks around way longer.

 

[Aww Skeet Skeet!]

Fucked up on so many levels. Truly disappointed/furious at Steve & Co.

this goes into his perception of dreadlocks. he doesn't like it. he told a story about a young man talking to him about a job or something to that effect, and all he could see was the young man's hair. he told him he couldn't see pass his hair. the young man cut his hair and steve didn't recognize him. he gave this spill how the young man seen life in a different light.

He and Sheryl Underwood were/are on that same bullshit at one point and time. Except now, Sheryl is rocking her natural hair, and it looks light-years better than that wig she used for so many years.

 

[POSTERBOY]

Bro respectfully, That is cowardly logic. I do not understand how the prior generation thought they could defeat racism by giving into it and playing respectability politics. Ita a game where the goal posts are forever moving and so we will always loose.

The Natural texture of hair is not a style, hence the term natural. Workplace dress codes that start with the primise that whiteness is the norm and therby margilalize our hair and grooming methods that make since for us should be challenged in every way including in court.We should not be passing yet another unsolved problem to the next generation.

Bravo!

 

[xfactor]

Who one starred this thread? Own up to it, coward.

Shut up, white man.

 

[Camille]

Fucked up on so many levels. Truly disappointed/furious at Steve & Co.





He and Sheryl Underwood were/are on that same bullshit at one point and time. Except now, Sheryl is rocking her natural hair, and it looks light-years better than that wig she used for so many years.

Sheryl has come under fire before for referring to natural hair as nasty.

 

[Helico-pterFunk]

 

[Helico-pterFunk]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...-nine-year-wedding-anniversary-Portofino.html

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

He's old. No reason to care.

 

[exiledking]

Lol at anyone who thinks they stop being black just cuZ tbey get a haircut. A Caesar is a black hairstyle - long hair is never really a thing people really go for in business for ANYBODY.

And by the time you're in your 30s that suits gonna prolly fall out anyway so relax gents.

 

[exiledking]

Dreads never stopped me

In fact it saved me from working in some racist ass companies

You see me and you see BLACK

with that comes knowing where the fucking line is and never crossing it

That's a beautiful peaceful life right there with much less fuckery

the other part of the game needs to be tight though

you need to be THE fucking man

Lol white people love dreads more than Black business people ever will.

Dreads don't make you black. Being Black makes you Black.

When I see dreads I assume you love white girls. That's usually who's with em the most.

 

[ballscout1]

Lol white people love dreads more than Black business people ever will.

Dreads don't make you black. Being Black makes you Black.

When I see dreads I assume you love white girls. That's usually who's with em the most.

Preach.....not to mention how many men going to the "beauty parlor" and rocking those store bought dreds...



This board is funny sometimes.....Fuck what you think about Steve Harvey he has a national program helping boys.

If you can do it better feel free.

But then this board hates Lebron who

Is married to his high school sweetheart and mother of his children.

Has put his friends into their own businesses

Has committed to send thousands tho college

Has no drama

Has carried the NBA for 13 years

 

[Helico-pterFunk]

http://www.tmz.com/2016/07/04/steve-harvey-magic-johnson-sam-jackson-yacht-party-italy/