Steph Curry vs. Allen Iverson
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3 straight Finals, 2 MVPs, at least 1 chip possibly 2. The other player won a MVP and went to 1 Final and barely won a game in OT.
that still doesnt make him a better player...
He's a much more efficient player and that's not really up for debate. Steph shoots better from 3 than AI shot from the field in his career. Steph's a better passer AND better rebounder. He's also a much better playoff performer save for volume scoring. His PER is higher in the postseason. Thats just statistically. He's also a better teammate and person. To my knowledge Steph has never been on a trading block unlike AI who was before his 2001 MVP season and several times later in his career. Steph already has more individual accolades save for all star appearances. The main thing AI has over him is "street cred" which is what made so many gravitate to him and keeps him propped up. If he played in Steph's era he'd be known as an underachiever and playoff choker. If we take "emotion" out of this comparison, its pretty clear who the better player is. That's not to say the other wasnt a great player or HOFer, he's just not as good as the other.
Wtf? You sound like a cac.
No, I sound like a black person who doesnt consider someone a "real nigga" cuz they got locked up at an early age or stay getting kicked out of fucking casinos and has an alcoholic problem up thru they 40s. Steph is a good kid from a good family and he represents his community well. I know you're a DMV guy so you have a bias and dont like Curry, but let's not pretend AI is who we would tell our kids to emulate. He turned his life around and did well for himself, but the nigga made plenty of mistakes and never grew the fuck up til his career was over.
You can't use this example because AI and the Pistons parted ways before the playoffs because Iverson didn't want to come off the bench...
People who use the number of rings a player has won don't realize that it also has to do with the team around the player. Robert Horry has 7 (yes, seven) rings, but would you say he is better than someone who has is a better player, but has less rings? Hell, Chuck Nevitt has a ring, too.
At this point, AI is better than Steph, but Steph isn't even in his prime yet. We'll see.
Steph is by far the better player, if Steph had a team were it was designed for him to just score he would average 40 easily
On the strength of the trash ass team that he SINGLEHANDEDLY took to the Finals in 2001, give me AI.
For real, dude had Eric Snow, Matt Geiger and Aaron McKie.....
For real, dude had Eric Snow, Matt Geiger and Aaron McKie.....
and HOF center Dikembe Mutumbo who was DPOY that year and HOF coach Larry Brown.
You can make an argument the 2 Nets teams that J Kidd took to the Finals the following 2 years were even less talented. Kittles, Van Horn, MacCollugh, Jefferson, K-Mart, faggot ass Jason Collins, Scalabrine? Byron Scott was the coach too lol. Aint no HOFers in there bruh.
I have a new inventions it called a ring sequencer..
What it does is rank and files all players by the amount of rings they have this way all you have to do, is punch in any two player names and they will tell you who is the better player based off the fool proof who has the most rings method...
Patent Pending.....
What it does is rank and files all players by the amount of rings they have this way all you have to do, is punch in any two player names and they will tell you who is the better player based off the fool proof who has the most rings method...
Patent Pending.....
#30 Steph Curry
(Chef, Cheat Code)
Point Guard
6'3 185 lbs
2015 NBA Champion
2x NBA Finals appearance ('15, '16)
2x NBA MVP ('15, '16)
2x All-NBA [1st team] ('15, '16)
3x All-Star ('14, '15, '16)
22.4 points per game
6.9 assists per game
4.3 rebounds per game
1.8 steals per game
3.2 turnovers per game
34.9 minutes per game
47.7 FG%
44.4 3pt%
90.2 FT%
23.2 PER
1x NBA scoring leader ('16)
1x NBA steals leader ('16)
4x NBA 3pt made leader ('13-'16)
3x NBA FT% leader ('11, '15, '16)
PLAYOFFS
25.7 points per game
6.6 assists per game
4.7 assists per game
1.7 steals per game
3.8 turnovers per game
38.5 minutes per game
44.4 FG%
40.8 3pt%
87.8 FT%
22.3 PER
#3 Allen Iverson
(Bubba Chuck, The Answer)
Point Guard/Shooting Guard
6'0 165 lbs
1x NBA Finals appearance ('01)
1x NBA MVP ('01)
3x All-NBA [1st team] ('99, '01, '05)
11x All-Star ('00-'10)
2x All-Star MVP ('01, '05)
'97 Rookie Of The Year
26.7 points per game
6.2 assists per game
3.7 rebounds per game
2.2 steals per game
3.6 turnovers per game
41.1 minutes per game
42.5 FG%
31.3 3pt%
78.0 FT%
20.9 PER
4x NBA scoring leader ('99, '01, '02, '05)
3x NBA steals leader ('01, '02, '03)
7x NBA minutes played leader ('99, '02, '03, '04, '06, '07, '08)
PLAYOFFS
29.7 points per game
6.0 assists per game
3.8 rebounds per game
2.1 steals per game
3.1 turnovers per game
45.1 minutes per game
40.1 FG%
32.7 3pt%
76.4 FT%
21.2 PER
WHO IS THE BETTER PLAYER?
Numbers don't lie.
just updated them too for this season.
You're full of shit and a selective pro black internet personality... Saying the guy isnt a good human being is textbook cac shit. Using his teenage conviction ( in which he was railroaded by a bunch of backwoods racist devils) to substantiate that is super cac shit. His gambling addictions and substance abuse dont make him a bad person my man... Hes actually a good hearted person and loyal to a fault.. Hes a very generous person as well. And miss me with the DMV bias, its false and hypocritical (you're from charlotte nigga!)... go read my posts on AI over the years.. Im not a huge fan. But going as far to call him a lesser person is way out of bounds. Neither of them can help the parents and tax bracket they were born into.. Steph being born with wealth and opportunity doesnt make him "better" or AI "lesser".
One kid was born rich, to two parents, and the son of a professional athlete... The other was born poor, single parent home, and survived a wrongful conviction and prison time to make himself into an American icon and HOF player... So who really is "better" is something thats subjective and debatable to say the least.
And all save McCollough were capable of dropping 20 and defending their position on any given nite.. Who on that sixers team was capable of giving you buckets?
Steph managed to keep his ass out of jail. As far as I know he's never kicked his wife out the house with the tool and got his dumb ass arrested. Show me Steph's mug shot WHILE HE'S IN THE NBA. AI isnt the scum of the earth, he's done positive things, he's just the prime example of when keeping it real goes wrong and how black men love to portray niggas who get locked up as "real niggas".
Cry me a river. There's plenty of NBA players who came from single parent backgrounds who didnt turn out to be alcoholics catching weed and gun charges while they were in the NBA. This notion that to be "black" you gotta prop up a nigga that made dumb ass mistakes for the sake of "street cred" is bullshit. Steph isnt recording wack ass rap albums either living some bullshit Beanie Sigel fantasy. He's staying in his lane. The same shit you love about AI is what you hate about Steph, his father was there and he had guidance to prevent him from doing all the dumb shit AI is still paying for well into his 40's. Nigga shit, hating on a black man cuz he came from a good home and represents his family and community well. Acting like he gotta apologize cuz he aint come from dysfunction. You DC niggas wild joe.
eric snow and luke walton are both two players that literally are on the court cause legally u have to have 5 players on the court..that is their only purpose..they are utterly useless outside of that..those nigs are the 5th man quota..i damn near despise eric snow cause of his utter uselessness during that finals and many other games..that nig was scared to shoot, scared to dribble, he was juss there taking up space..it was like pass him the ball nope can't shoot, can't penetrate must get ball out my hands so i'll pass it back real quick..i was like get this nig off my screen,bench this son-of-a-bitch...u mean to tell me they couldn't find another able body person that can play that position..i was like where the fuck is larry hughes..god everytime i see that guys name and luke walton name i get a burst of anger lolLove both players... But AI took THIS to Finals....
And this is PAST HIS PRIME Mutombo
Most rich people do.
Sure there are. Dont mean that those trappings wont effect some. And doesnt mean those effected are lesser human beings.
You're the only one i see making this argument tho. Personally i dont hang with black people that assign those requirements to realness.. Also, not sure what this has to do with AI being a lesser person.
AI grew up in similar conditions as Beanie Sigel. So if we are talking about "lanes", then that would probably be his. Again, this doesnt make him a lesser person.. Poor decision maker? Yes. Lesser human being? Fuck no.
Nope. You're the only one moralizing and making character judgments.. Im talking basketball.
No idea where all this is coming from... but again, you're the only one making this analysis on upbringing and character fitness. Weird.
You QC boys shell as hell.
Love both players... But AI took THIS to Finals....
And this is PAST HIS PRIME Mutombo
Keep in mind these niggas want you to forget about Stephs first 3 years and focus only on the last 3 seasons... after the development of himself and the two other all nba all stars.... Not to mention the new addition 7 foot swingman MVP.
lol at king t shitting on ai..the same dude who love using the "white daddy" term and espn.. the only people that use to tear ai down was "white daddy" and espn..maybe that's why he likes to use that term so much cause he listens to them..he shits on ai, loves curry squeaky clean image, and worships lebron..funny how "white daddy" espn been worshipping lebron since he was in highschool.. guess king t worships "white daddy" more than everybody..loves lebron, loves curry image, shits on ai.. i see you "white daddies" favorite son... now u got bbb logo as your avatar white daddy love talking about them to..sitting by the idiot box waiting for more white daddy instructions for you to follow
lol@tallblack gettin tender bout AI...the same dude who loves sucking off Jordan cuz of his rings and cuz "white daddy" Stern and "white daddy" Phil Knight marketed him so well, but mad a guy who prolly bout to have 2 of em is considered better than a guy who has none. I respect both AI and Curry, but only a DUMBASS would even try to argue he's a better teammate than Curry or a better role model. AI had the respect of his teammates because he laid it all out on the floor every night, but behind the scenes didnt take his craft seriously and at times was a bad influence (see Melo & LeBitch at the Olympics in '04). In 2008, AI played with Melo, Camby, K-Mart, JR Smith, and Nene, prolly the most talent he ever played with and got swept in the 1st round. Leading to Melo's infamous "we quit" rant that had his ass shipped out on the first thing smoking that summer. C Billups comes in the next year, damn near the same team, and takes them boys to the Western Conference Finals. Then he's bouncing around from team to team crying on panels begging for 2nd chances. Dude was a great player and deserves his HOF status, but he never was on the level Curry been at the last 3 years. PERIOD. And his mistakes served as a great lesson to the players like Wade, LeBitch, Melo, Curry, etc that came after him on what NOT to do.
lol juss because i said jordan was better than lebron u think i'm a dickrider..once again rings ain't the only reason why i think jordan is better..only ya hold rings as the biggest thing..here goes something funny pippen got 6 rings but i rather have lebron than pippen.. russel has 11 but i rather have wilt, kareem, hakeem, or shaq.. so rings isn't my all to be all when comparing players..ur juss butt hurt cause i don't worship lebron and would rather pick a few players over him..still butt hurt over my jordan is better than lebron comment
No I KNOW you a dickrider cuz like all Jordan dickriders including 99.9% of the ones here on BGOL you HATE, ABHOR, RUN from any criticism he takes. It kills your gay fantasy about him. While at the same time using his trumped up legacy and half truths to criticize or marginalize other players before and after him. You Jordan dickriders inherit that from him tho because Michael absolutely HATES criticism, I mean cant stand it. He's very very very sensitive. Anytime he's faced it in his career and after, he runs and either quits or claims he's being treated unfairly. This has been shown time and time again since the 80s. From him being sensitive about being called a ballhog, to him being fired from the Wizards, to now him being viewed as a joke of an owner. And its why he keeps a fleet of yes men around him at all times. This nigga butthurt bout that fucking meme.
But back to AI, give me a sound reason beside "cuz I say so" that explains why he's a better basketball player than Steph Curry? And even tell me what makes him a better person?
ai and curry to me are two diff type players.. depending on the task at hand is which person i would call on.. curry is def a better shooter and depending on what system i'm using he's getting the call first, ai to me is the better penetrator and physically tougher when u looking for a player to go to the hole and either score or dish it out.. both have done their thing in their own rite..the question is if u switch position would curry led that crappy 76'er squad to the finals and would ai have won either yr on both warrior squads... all that off court shit is for the lifetime channelNo I KNOW you a dickrider cuz like all Jordan dickriders including 99.9% of the ones here on BGOL you HATE, ABHOR, RUN from any criticism he takes. It kills your gay fantasy about him. While at the same time using his trumped up legacy and half truths to criticize or marginalize other players before and after him. You Jordan dickriders inherit that from him tho because Michael absolutely HATES criticism, I mean cant stand it. He's very very very sensitive. Anytime he's faced it in his career and after, he runs and either quits or claims he's being treated unfairly. This has been shown time and time again since the 80s. From him being sensitive about being called a ballhog, to him being fired from the Wizards, to now him being viewed as a joke of an owner. And its why he keeps a fleet of yes men around him at all times. This nigga butthurt bout that fucking meme.
But back to AI, give me a sound reason beside "cuz I say so" that explains why he's a better basketball player than Steph Curry? And even tell me what makes him a better person?
Raja Bell wasn't a goon? LoLAI all day.
Steph just got a better & more goonish supporting cast.
Exactly. You can argue on a lot of things on this topic. Better handles better defender better finisher at the rim and you wouldn't be wrong if you picked either. But when the comparisons stop is when it comes to shooting and Iverson ain't even in the same gym with curry. So curry gets the win for that reason
Zaza would've been dealt with in Raja's heyday. Only white niggas can play like Raja now.
I'll give you the Mutombo DPOY point but that team was still horrific offensively. Larry Brown's HOF stripes don't coming into play as he'd not yet won the NBA title that put him on that mountain.
The 2 Nets teams....terrible. But they are responsible for one of KB24s rings.....the other is that bad Philly team; so 2 of his 5 came against suspect end competition....different topic though.
Who fault is that tho? LmaooZaza would've been dealt with in Raja's heyday. Only white niggas can play like Raja now.