Standards of beauty

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For your gender and the opposing gender. How do you feel about it? One minute you look good the next minute you could be plain jane. America is the only country where the standards of beauty can change so drastically within the course of a decade. Ex: Prince and Rick james were sexy at a time. Now I think the Idris Elbas and Shamar Moore are in style now. And far as women. Nicky Minaj (females dress like her for a min.) Is in style but the salt in pepa shit was once seen as sexy. There are tons of women that I find sexy that don't fit the standard of beauty in America and there are others that fit the standard that I find average (beyonce ehm)
 
To be honest I hate the beauty standards ... but thats cuz I dont fit into it lol just being honest ... I dont get much love for my naturalness
 
I've never understood the idea of societal standards of beauty.

Let me rephrase that, I don't understand letting those artificial standards influence what you like as an individual.
 
I wish more people, especially black men, defined their own beauty standards instead of just buying into the white mans ideal of beauty

It really sucks how much everyone in every culture has fallen for the okey doke that these pale mofos are the best looking.

I see very little beauty in white people, especially white men and I dont understand and cant relate to people who view them as the most beautiful ... like I just dont see the beauty in white peopel much at all

But maybe its just me ... maybe white women and men really are the best looking and I'm just blind or something
 
It's programmed into us as youngins. Unless you have some other models to view of what beauty is. Then it's pretty much going to be just that.

I came to Canada at a very young age

and was BOMBARDED with images, stories, shows, movies, magazines, billboards as a child that show how beautiful whites are ... there was a short time when I was younger where I struggled with not looking like the images that were portrayed as beautiful ... but as I got older I was able to define for myself what beauty was ... I cut off my permed hair and grew it out natural at 18 and decided regardless of what anyone else thought I felt I looked my best at my most natural

I was STILL able to define for myself what beauty is regardless of what I saw ... IMO these people who allow someone else to tell them what is beautiful are weak especially if you buy into beauty being the opposite of how you look
 
It's programmed into us as youngins. Unless you have some other models to view of what beauty is. Then it's pretty much going to be just that.

:yes::yes: It takes vigilant parenting to make sure your Black (or non-White) child is exposed to images of beautiful people of color, people that they can imagine themselves looking like when they're adults.


I came to Canada at a very young age

and was BOMBARDED with images, stories, shows, movies, magazines, billboards as a child that show how beautiful whites are ... there was a short time when I was younger where I struggled with not looking like the images that were portrayed as beautiful ... but as I got older I was able to define for myself what beauty was ... I cut off my permed hair and grew it out natural at 18 and decided regardless of what anyone else thought I felt I looked my best at my most natural

I was STILL able to define for myself what beauty is regardless of what I saw ... IMO these people who allow someone else to tell them what is beautiful are weak especially if you buy into beauty being the opposite of how you look


I know what it's like here in the States but I can't imagine what it's like in Canada. I'm sure there are a lot of Black folks in Toronto and Vancouver and whatever other major cities there but still the imagery has to be an almost total Whitewash. Not even out of racist intent just because they don't know better.
Correct me if I'm sizing up Canada wrong.
 
It's programmed into us as youngins. Unless you have some other models to view of what beauty is. Then it's pretty much going to be just that.

Thinking about this

I noticed my son leans more towards white, non black, mixed girls

Very rarely will he say that a darker skinned or just regular black girl is pretty

I sorta blame myself like maybe I didnt show him the beauty in black women enough

or maybe we watched too many of those Family and Disney channel shows cuz all they do is big up white girls on there

or if I should just chalk it up to he just has the taste of a regular black man cuz he seems to like what most of the black guys here like

or maybe its just me and white, non black, mixed girls are maybe the prettiest and thats why he likes them and I'm just trippin

I'm confused and sorta blah about it

but I told him to like whoever he wants just dont bring home a chickenhead, golddigger or sketel when he gets older

but it sort of I dont know ... makes me feel weird
 
:yes::yes: It takes vigilant parenting to make sure your Black (or non-White) child is exposed to images of beautiful people of color, people that they can imagine themselves looking like when they're adults.





I know what it's like here in the States but I can't imagine what it's like in Canada. I'm sure there are a lot of Black folks in Toronto and Vancouver and whatever other major cities there but still the imagery has to be an almost total Whitewash. Not even out of racist intent just because they don't know better.
Correct me if I'm sizing up Canada wrong.

It was very important to my husband and myself for our daughters to be indoctrinated in what we wanted them to see as beauty. Themselves. And other shades of brown.
 
Thinking about this
I noticed my son leans more towards white, non black, mixed girls
Very rarely will he say that a darker skinned or just regular black girl is pretty
I sorta blame myself like maybe I didnt show him the beauty in black women enough
or maybe we watched too many of those Family and Disney channel shows cuz all they do is big up white girls on there
or if I should just chalk it up to he just has the taste of a regular black man cuz he seems to like what most of the black guys here like
or maybe its just me and white, non black, mixed girls are maybe the prettiest and thats why he likes them and I'm just trippin
I'm confused and sorta blah about it
but I told him to like whoever he wants just dont bring home a chickenhead, golddigger or sketel when he gets older
but it sort of I dont know ... makes me feel weird

You know what babe. it's a lot of things. A whole lot of influences that we have to monitor and watch out for. From toys, and tv, to who they're around like your firends, and family, to how they see those women. As well as the outside influences of friends.

I think at his age, my sons ages, there's a lot of run with the crowdism. And they're peer pressured almost into liking what they like. My son called this little chubby girl thick the other day. I was like where the hell did you even get like that? He laughed and said his friends called her that. I smh and we got into a discussion about thick and how it's viewed amongst our people. Hubby even had a short bout of worrying about how our daughters would view themselves, and the boys too, being that i'm lite, Michelle is what she is. His mother is lite. He didn't want them thinking they were unpretty because they're both brownskins. And surrounded with all these lite women how would the kids percieve "beauty" So yeah we did work extra hard to show them that BROWN in all it's shades is beautiful.

Maybe you should try. i don't know, have you ever taken him home?
 
Is it the course of beauty that changes or what people believe to be beauty that changes? Hell is that the same thing?
People to believe that beauty is "what is in" thus making people believe that there is something new that is now the new in thing. I dont even know how to tackle this subject-shit I shouldve went to sleep like I said.

But to the OP think for a moment w/ me: Does it matter what people think is beauty and what isnt? There are people who think Beyonce is average and Alek Wek is stunning. Or people who think Alicia Keys is exotic and Jennifer Hudson is plain.
All in all who cares?
:dunno:

For the record though, Prince will ALWAYS be fine to me:lol::dance::lol: But then again I think Idris Alba, Chico Debarge, The Rock and Vin Rhames are sexy too.........

To each his or her own.



For your gender and the opposing gender. How do you feel about it? One minute you look good the next minute you could be plain jane. America is the only country where the standards of beauty can change so drastically within the course of a decade. Ex: Prince and Rick james were sexy at a time. Now I think the Idris Elbas and Shamar Moore are in style now. And far as women. Nicky Minaj (females dress like her for a min.) Is in style but the salt in pepa shit was once seen as sexy. There are tons of women that I find sexy that don't fit the standard of beauty in America and there are others that fit the standard that I find average (beyonce ehm)
 
You know what babe. it's a lot of things. A whole lot of influences that we have to monitor and watch out for. From toys, and tv, to who they're around like your firends, and family, to how they see those women. As well as the outside influences of friends.

I think at his age, my sons ages, there's a lot of run with the crowdism. And they're peer pressured almost into liking what they like. My son called this little chubby girl thick the other day. I was like where the hell did you even get like that? He laughed and said his friends called her that. I smh and we got into a discussion about thick and how it's viewed amongst our people. Hubby even had a short bout of worrying about how our daughters would view themselves, and the boys too, being that i'm lite, Michelle is what she is. His mother is lite. He didn't want them thinking they were unpretty because they're both brownskins. And surrounded with all these lite women how would the kids percieve "beauty" So yeah we did work extra hard to show them that BROWN in all it's shades is beautiful.

Maybe you should try. i don't know, have you ever taken him home?

Taking him home wont work ... his taste has pretty much already been formed

its not like he hates black girls or thinks they are all ugly ... I just dont see him noticing the beauty of black women much which I feel is a failure on my part

But it is what it is ... he'll do what he wants and I will love him regardless
 
I wish more people, especially black men, defined their own beauty standards instead of just buying into the white mans ideal of beauty

It really sucks how much everyone in every culture has fallen for the okey doke that these pale mofos are the best looking.

I see very little beauty in white people, especially white men and I dont understand and cant relate to people who view them as the most beautiful ... like I just dont see the beauty in white peopel much at all

But maybe its just me ... maybe white women and men really are the best looking and I'm just blind or something

Though it was just me as well.

I have felt this way since I was a child.
 
Can anyone figure out what my standard of beauty is from these pics:

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I came to Canada at a very young age

and was BOMBARDED with images, stories, shows, movies, magazines, billboards as a child that show how beautiful whites are ...

Why wouldn't you expect that to happen, in a majority white country?? How do you think Asians and Indians feel?? They're far less represented than blacks. :confused:
 
Is it the course of beauty that changes or what people believe to be beauty that changes? Hell is that the same thing?
People to believe that beauty is "what is in" thus making people believe that there is something new that is now the new in thing. I dont even know how to tackle this subject-shit I shouldve went to sleep like I said.

But to the OP think for a moment w/ me: Does it matter what people think is beauty and what isnt? There are people who think Beyonce is average and Alek Wek is stunning. Or people who think Alicia Keys is exotic and Jennifer Hudson is plain.
All in all who cares?
:dunno:

For the record though, Prince will ALWAYS be fine to me:lol::dance::lol: But then again I think Idris Alba, Chico Debarge, The Rock and Vin Rhames are sexy too.........

To each his or her own.

I think beauty has been intertwined with what we genetically are predisposed to consider when looking for a mate. Ex: a woman with child bearing hips indicates that she can have multiple children. That has turned into 'dam shorty with the coke bottle shape is banging'. I don't think cave men and homo erectus were drooling at the site of a woman with a coke bottle shape. I think the excitement behind seeing that has been exagerated. A lot of shit in our society has been exagerated. Seeing a woman's titty is exagerated. If you go to europe no body is tripping about seeing a woman's (janet jackson's) titty. It's us that exagerated seeing that. For women men with muscles are seen as a man that can provide. But now with the media sensation we(we as in ya'll women) are conditioned to go nuts when you see a muscular man. I think a lot of the core shit is the same. I also think black women are predisposed to search for men with big dicks to reach their pussy. And black men want a woman that can take it. I think that's designed genetically for a reason. Also if you notice; who have the smallest flatest asses ever? Asian women. And who have the smallest dicks? Asian men. So I think some of what we are attracted to are just genetics but exagerated by western media
 
Can anyone figure out what my standard of beauty is from these pics:

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2z73onr.jpg

161lqmv.jpg

They hot. Second girl colar bone sticking out kinda like ugh. I can dig those pics right there but they are two arguments away from being pink slipped if we dated. Looks as if her confidence lies within her looks, that can make a woman kinda ugly. IE Tyra Banks boring annoying sexy ass then avg another day
 
Taking him home wont work ... his taste has pretty much already been formed

its not like he hates black girls or thinks they are all ugly ... I just dont see him noticing the beauty of black women much which I feel is a failure on my part

But it is what it is ... he'll do what he wants and I will love him regardless

He's young Lone and taste change and grow and develop as we age and as LI mentioned grow out of running with crowd norms. Take him home and let him experience the beauty of his culture and people. It may at least plant a seed of self-love that carries over into everything. The self-love part is the most important part. Most of these negroes with these biases hate themselves and they hate people that look like them and all it represents is substandard and ugly in their eyes.

I see the beauty in some white people, but I don't view it as superior to the beauty of non-white people. When I was growing up and in that crackertown school then yeah I had self-esteem issues and was all twisted up about it. Going to a black college (an idea I absolutely hated at first) really helped me a lot. That was the most time I had ever spent around a big group of diverse non-family black people and black men especially. Now granted it was still a lot of buffonish coons in college, but there were many great guys too. So it is never too late to expose him.

Nowadays if I wasn't with a black man, it would be a real big stretch for me to be with a white man. He would have to be fucking extraordinary.
I would date another person of color though. I just have issues with institutional racism and with the way even "good" white people feed into that bullshit. I feel more comfortable with other people of color and black men especially. Plus, I like skin to have some color- doesn't have to be dark, but I don't find ultra white paleness erotic.
 
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He's young Lone and taste change and grow and develop as we age and as LI mentioned grow out of running with crowd norms. Take him home and let him experience the beauty of his culture and people. It may at least plant a seed of self-love that carries over into everything. The self-love part is the most important part. Most of these negroes with these biases hate themselves and they hate people that look like them and all it represents is substandard and ugly in their eyes. I agree with all of this totally. I didn't ever see us as being substandard or ugly, but i didn't have the idea that we were SO beautiful until i went to africa. I didn't understand how AMAZING we are until i went to africa. It was transformative.

I see the beauty in some white people, but I don't view it as superior to the beauty of non-white people. When I was growing up and in that crackertown school then yeah I had self-esteem issues and was all twisted up about it. Going to a black college (an idea I absolutely hated at first) really helped me a lot. That was the most time I had ever spent around a big group of diverse non-family black people and black men especially. Now granted it was still a lot of buffonish coons in college, but there were many great guys too. So it is never too late to expose him.

Nowadays if I wasn't with a black man, it would be a real big stretch for me to be with a white man. He would have to be fucking extraordinary.
I would date another person of color though. I just have issues with institutional racism and with the way even "good" white people feed into that bullshit. I feel more comfortable with other people of color and black men especially. Plus, I like skin to have some color- doesn't have to be dark, but I don't find ultra white paleness erotic.

My gf had a similar expeirence, she grew up in Seattle of all places. Some suburb where she said she was forreal the ONLY black person she saw for weeks on end, until she went off somewhere into the city. She had learned to not see herself as pretty, and her only real exposure to black people were TV, what her white friends said and her own fucked up parents.

She didn't even think of herself as beautiful as she is until she went to college, and then every boy on campus wanted her. She went to school an UNLV, more black people than she'd ever seen in her life. Changed her views about herself drastically.

Sometimes it's all that's needed is for someone to take you and show you i guess. Even when you're older.
 
My gf had a similar expeirence, she grew up in Seattle of all places. Some suburb where she said she was forreal the ONLY black person she saw for weeks on end, until she went off somewhere into the city. She had learned to not see herself as pretty, and her only real exposure to black people were TV, what her white friends said and her own fucked up parents.

She didn't even think of herself as beautiful as she is until she went to college, and then every boy on campus wanted her. She went to school an UNLV, more black people than she'd ever seen in her life. Changed her views about herself drastically.

Sometimes it's all that's needed is for someone to take you and show you i guess. Even when you're older.

:yes: It's never too late. I had a similar experience in Africa. Again the diversity of the people really blew me away. You can turn on the tv in Africa and everybody is black. They got some wack movies over there, but it was still a good feeling to see a broad and powerful representation of black people. We refuse to really acknowledge how much bathing in the sea of everyday yt and drinking their collective kool-aid via the media really affects us.

People bad rep black colleges (with good reason) but if one is teetering on the edge of black conciousness they can be fabulous therapy (school daze type coonery aside). :cool:
 
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