Staggering US wealth inequality heaps long-term harm on to minority children

Hey Mouse! Been a while since I seen your name, how you doing?
How's the young Prince?

You mean Princes. Lol they are both good. I had some complications and had to be induced early so baby was born at 4lbs now his ass almost 20lbs. He's a big fatty and looks just like his brother did when he was little. My oldest has been like Dennis the menace ever since.
 
You mean Princes. Lol they are both good. I had some complications and had to be induced early so baby was born at 4lbs now his ass almost 20lbs. He's a big fatty and looks just like his brother did when he was little. My oldest has been like Dennis the menace ever since.

I didn't know you had a second baby. Congratz!!
 
What makes you think it's about the government "handing out" solutions?



"We our own worst enemy!" [insert Tariq gif] :giggle:

What "individual" initiatives would make a drastic change in the stat below (assuming you even look at this kind of information)?

In 2019, the median wealth level for a white family with children in the US was $63,838. The same statistic for a Black family with children was $808.
As far as the government being the solution, well you have an individual in this thread that has said just that. Yet he hasn't been the only one to say such a thing.


As far as the wealth gap goes. You are too stuck on the data.
Which is being stuck on the problems and not looking for solutions (even if it does not solve the wealth cap) to black moving from not only drowning, but just "keeping their head above water".

One solution to black folk being on the road to wealth is to take self responsibility for one's life. To not pass on your inferiority complexes onto your kids. To invest in your future and instead of just living for today. Which leads to stop giving away possible generators of wealth that you do have like the homes, and businesses passed onto you by parents, grandparents, etc... To think bigger than just I'm doing alright.

Essentially you are more worried about evening the wealth gap vs decreasing the wealth gap. We have to start somewhere and that somewhere start with individuals getting themselves together (mentally, physically, and financially).


To get away from just being satisfied with enough money for your vices (partying, smoking, shopping, etc).

Think of it like this. If there are future projects in the pipeline for infrastructure. Yet currently you are not skilled for those future jobs. Who's fault
is it when those opportunities come and you are still not skilled for those jobs? The collective or the individual?

If the collective is preparing for those opportunities but individuals are not. Who's the problem? The collective or the individuals who failed to get ready?
 
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But these "individuals" don't seem to understand that they're still part of the collective, and are affected by the same issues that affect the collective. As I said earlier, they only compare themselves to baby mamas and niggas in the hood! Ask them to compare themselves to the white people they think they're on the same economic level as. They don't do this because it would be an epiphany for them that they don't want to acknowledge.

Remember when Chris Rock talked about how he thought he'd "made it"? Then he realized he was living next door to a white dentist? :lol:
and you don't seem to understand that collectives are made up of individuals.
Each individual has to bring something to the table in order for a collective to be successful.
 
You said "Most wealthy people, PARTICULARLY millionaires." Bruh, if person ain't even got a million dollars OUTSIDE their primary residence, they ain't near wealthy.

And fam, this is 2021, not 1921. The Ivy League barrier isn't a thing any fucking more when the world is in the palm of everyone's hands. You seem to be on some boomer shit. I'm just some fool from Ohio with a felonious background and I'm on zoom meetings every fucking week with millionaires from across the fucking globe.

Guess how many of those millionaires ask me where I went to school? None. Zero. Zilch. Not fucking one. They don't give not one flying fuck.

Paying 50k a year to meet people is some grandpa shit in 2021. Going to have people chasing debt to connect. Jesus. :smh:


You see what that cat Tito is on? Debt. Willing to spend 50k a year for antiquated network channels for some employee perks. :smh: Bankers/elite used to own all the connects. What he is saying to do applied for people in their 40s and older, but doesn't apply for young people coming up now. In the 90s, I would have never been able to connect with the people my kids can now. Just wasn't possible unless you got lucky or went to the right schools.

And that's the problem with the black community. Always one fucking step behind the game. It's bad enough white people haven't caught on to the bankers hustle(and we all suffer for it). But to have black folks who haven't and who still believe(and push) antiquated systems is fucked all the way up.

I'm all for education. But folks no longer have to go into debt for it and the networking benefits schools once owned no longer apply in today's world. Meanwhile, the bankers game only going to make quality of life worse for those who don't play the game just like them. :smh:

I got those stuffed shirt cats in my family man. They mean well, but they really stuck in their ways.

Ok stay with me Im going to reel it in,

Lets just take a trip across the pond to Africa, bruh thats whats pissess me off,

as Africa slowly gets its independence, it has a chance to start over fresh, focus

on developing solar systems and other natural technology, but they are allowing

other countries to keep them hooked on fossil fuels, developing the same ol played

out dinosaur structures that depend on gas and electricity, they are just becoming

followers of a dying system instead of innovators of a new one, of course this is due

mostly to economic bullying and manipulating from western countries like england, france, germany, u.s...

but its also due to too much national "tribal" division that europeans love to play on..

now with us..like you said especially our generation as a collective are stuck in the 70's 80's and 90's....

sure some maybe into social media, but not as a tool to make money, but as a consumer to give away

all their free data..

but the good news is many of us are slowly catching on, and are finally realizing that, the only way to

move up and STAY up, is to find the next new thing, we are slowly getting into stocks, realizing that instead of

spending that bag on a stupid bag, or qtr million dollar car..

take that 100 g, put it in the stock market after doing your research, and have it work for you ten times over...

I see my people slowly creeping into the crypto, even tho many are skeptical because they dont understand,

its a patience game...

they expecting that shit to pay off instantly like hitting the numbers.. :lol:

which actually does, but that takes a few months of research and understanding

patterns.. and once you do that..the possible of that

money coming in like hitting the numbers improves immensely..

but chea my people have to realize in a capitalist society you better

be on the lookout for the next biggest thing...

in 2000 it was the internet...

2021 its the changing stock and crypto markets.....

the funny shit is.. crypto is actually saving the stock market...


ask goldman sachs how much they made since they entered the game..

just tell em you want to see the real books, not the show and

tell books...lol

but chea we slowly getting into the game, I see a few bruhs in the hood,

holding investment classes...

and they have to hold classes because so many folks stuck in the earlier decades

they dont even realize everything you need to know is on

the web..

there is no need whatsoever to pay for a college course..

fucking mit, harvard etc all have FREE courses on youtube...

colleges and universities dont want to admit it, but

they are really useless as long as there is an internet...

all the REAL experts in their field ONLINE...

my homie is in a private chat group, and they got

all the lowkey crypto billionaires telling them when

and what to buy and sell...

he said right now, they expecting the market to explode,

so the whales as usual trying to scare away all the weak hands...

and grab shit up..
 
I'm not comfortable with stocks or crypto. Seems like there is so much to learn, that I don't know where to start, but I've been looking into some financial books and stuff. Right now I'm trying to pay down all my credit cards.

Use acorns then
 
Ok stay with me Im going to reel it in,

Lets just take a trip across the pond to Africa, bruh thats whats pissess me off,

as Africa slowly gets its independence, it has a chance to start over fresh, focus

on developing solar systems and other natural technology, but they are allowing

other countries to keep them hooked on fossil fuels, developing the same ol played

out dinosaur structures that depend on gas and electricity, they are just becoming

followers of a dying system instead of innovators of a new one, of course this is due

mostly to economic bullying and manipulating from western countries like england, france, germany, u.s...

but its also due to too much national "tribal" division that europeans love to play on..

now with us..like you said especially our generation as a collective are stuck in the 70's 80's and 90's....

sure some maybe into social media, but not as a tool to make money, but as a consumer to give away

all their free data..

but the good news is many of us are slowly catching on, and are finally realizing that, the only way to

move up and STAY up, is to find the next new thing, we are slowly getting into stocks, realizing that instead of

spending that bag on a stupid bag, or qtr million dollar car..

take that 100 g, put it in the stock market after doing your research, and have it work for you ten times over...

I see my people slowly creeping into the crypto, even tho many are skeptical because they dont understand,

its a patience game...

they expecting that shit to pay off instantly like hitting the numbers.. :lol:

which actually does, but that takes a few months of research and understanding

patterns.. and once you do that..the possible of that

money coming in like hitting the numbers improves immensely..

but chea my people have to realize in a capitalist society you better

be on the lookout for the next biggest thing...

in 2000 it was the internet...

2021 its the changing stock and crypto markets.....

the funny shit is.. crypto is actually saving the stock market...


ask goldman sachs how much they made since they entered the game..

just tell em you want to see the real books, not the show and

tell books...lol

but chea we slowly getting into the game, I see a few bruhs in the hood,

holding investment classes...

and they have to hold classes because so many folks stuck in the earlier decades

they dont even realize everything you need to know is on

the web..

there is no need whatsoever to pay for a college course..

fucking mit, harvard etc all have FREE courses on youtube...

colleges and universities dont want to admit it, but

they are really useless as long as there is an internet...

all the REAL experts in their field ONLINE...

my homie is in a private chat group, and they got

all the lowkey crypto billionaires telling them when

and what to buy and sell...

he said right now, they expecting the market to explode,

so the whales as usual trying to scare away all the weak hands...

and grab shit up..
Which is one of the big reason why the wealth cap between white folk and black folk is so large. Failure to make and receive benefits from investments.
 
You said "Most wealthy people, PARTICULARLY millionaires." Bruh, if person ain't even got a million dollars OUTSIDE their primary residence, they ain't near wealthy.

And fam, this is 2021, not 1921. The Ivy League barrier isn't a thing any fucking more when the world is in the palm of everyone's hands. You seem to be on some boomer shit. I'm just some fool from Ohio with a felonious background and I'm on zoom meetings every fucking week with millionaires from across the fucking globe.

Guess how many of those millionaires ask me where I went to school? None. Zero. Zilch. Not fucking one. They don't give not one flying fuck.

Paying 50k a year to meet people is some grandpa shit in 2021. Going to have people chasing debt to connect. Jesus. :smh:


You see what that cat Tito is on? Debt. Willing to spend 50k a year for antiquated network channels for some employee perks. :smh: Bankers/elite used to own all the connects. What he is saying to do applied for people in their 40s and older, but doesn't apply for young people coming up now. In the 90s, I would have never been able to connect with the people my kids can now. Just wasn't possible unless you got lucky or went to the right schools.

And that's the problem with the black community. Always one fucking step behind the game. It's bad enough white people haven't caught on to the bankers hustle(and we all suffer for it). But to have black folks who haven't and who still believe(and push) antiquated systems is fucked all the way up.

I'm all for education. But folks no longer have to go into debt for it and the networking benefits schools once owned no longer apply in today's world. Meanwhile, the bankers game only going to make quality of life worse for those who don't play the game just like them. :smh:

I got those stuffed shirt cats in my family man. They mean well, but they really stuck in their ways.
Debt=modern slavery
 
and you don't seem to understand that collectives are made up of individuals.
Each individual has to bring something to the table in order for a collective to be successful.

This simply isn't true. Just look at the white population. There are still massive numbers of white people in poverty, but the white "middle-class" as we know it today was created by GOVERNMENT POLICY. Why is this so difficult to understand for you? The lesson plan below was developed for teenagers in high school.

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
The Color of Law: Developing the White Middle Class
This lesson is the third and final lesson of the series The Color of Law: The Role of Government in Shaping Racial Inequity. In this lesson, students examine policies that supported and cultivated the creation of the white middle class and the practices that excluded black and nonwhite people from economic development.
GRADE LEVEL​

9-12

Objectives
At the end of the lesson, students will be able to:
  • Explain how government policies affected the housing, employment and education choices available to individuals.
Essential Questions
  • What was the government’s role in creating the white middle class?
 
and you don't seem to understand that collectives are made up of individuals.
Each individual has to bring something to the table in order for a collective to be successful.
Which is one of the big reason why the wealth cap between white folk and black folk is so large. Failure to make and receive benefits from investments.

How Today’s White Middle Class Was Made Possible By Welfare

Whites, angered at blacks and immigrants receiving “government handouts,” forget they were lifted out of poverty through racially exclusive welfare programs in the 30s.
 
Shiid. We got millionaires here while charter Jets to Maldives, and members who have their personal $50m Gulf Streams
:dunno:

Don't try and downplay yourself fam. It's good to know who's set on bgol. I'll be hitting you up for some investment dollar$.

:giggle:
 
How the US Government Created an (Almost) Exclusively White Middle Class
Dorothy A. Brown Considers the Long History of Racism in the US Taxation System

 
This simply isn't true. Just look at the white population. There are still massive numbers of white people in poverty, but the white "middle-class" as we know it today was created by GOVERNMENT POLICY. Why is this so difficult to understand for you? The lesson plan below was developed for teenagers in high school.

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
The Color of Law: Developing the White Middle Class
This lesson is the third and final lesson of the series The Color of Law: The Role of Government in Shaping Racial Inequity. In this lesson, students examine policies that supported and cultivated the creation of the white middle class and the practices that excluded black and nonwhite people from economic development.
GRADE LEVEL

9-12

Objectives
At the end of the lesson, students will be able to:
  • Explain how government policies affected the housing, employment and education choices available to individuals.
Essential Questions
  • What was the government’s role in creating the white middle class?
Bruh I know all of that. We are not talking about the past, but present, and the future.
That situation for black folk is not going to get corrected. Therefore we have to push forward with individual solutions that will benefit the collective.

As I said you are too stuck on the data that it paralyzes you from changing the current realities written in that data.
 
Heeeeeey! Y'all are going too far with the shitting on the Ivy League!!! I'm an alumnus! :giggle:

But y'all are right. In part, it's just a status symbol, but for many people who are already in a certain elite, it is a way of maintaining social ties and even marriages (MRS degree, etc). And for those who aspire to be in the elite, attending and Ivy or equivalent institution is a traditional way of entering it. Obama transferred to Columbia University for a reason. And we all know about the scandal with Lori Loughlin and others bribing to get their kids into USC and other elite schools. And on the graduate and professional levels, many traditional fields will automatically judge you, and accept or reject you, simply based on what school you went to.

However, gene is right, in that in this Information Age, what you actually know how to do takes precedence. But even Silicon Valley has pipelines to certain schools like Stanford and Carnegie-Mellon.
Yeah, people have to adapt. We are in a mix right now. Old guard vs Info age. Tito is right that putting your kids in an Ivy league school is the old, easy way(though costly) to ensure being around the right people. The gatekeeping took care of itself and kept the riff raff out.

But kids -- especially black children -- have to know the world is right in the palm of their hands. Instant fucking audience. Instant knowledge. Instant opportunity. Don't go bankrupt chasing connections in 2021 and beyond. In this age, by the time shit hits school curriculum, it's fucking ancient. Our education is transitioning to a different model, but that's another thread on its own.
 
Which is one of the big reason why the wealth cap between white folk and black folk is so large. Failure to make and receive benefits from investments.

yea the main reason is because so called black had their land stolen from them..

"black" wallstreet was NO an Isolated incident, it was common, and it didnt just move us,

around this country, it moved us around ALL the americas including the islands...

over 90 percent of all indigenous americans aka so called african americans..


Had their land stolen by force and given to europeans..

facts nobody wants to talk about...

they only shit I hate is when hybrid europeans be like.. thats the way it is,

the strong take from the weak..

then if you go upside thier head and take their money,

you a lazy savage who needs to be in jail because he dont want to get a job...

that type of logic is going to bring back karma so strong, its going to cause

extinctions..
 
Bruh I know all of that. We are not talking about the past, but present, and the future.
That situation for black folk is not going to get corrected. Therefore we have to push forward with individual solutions that will benefit the collective.

As I said you are too stuck on the data that it paralyzes you from changing the current realities written in that data.

It has already been established that the "individual solutions" you speak of won't dent the systemic and structural changes that we are talking about.

For example, there are more millionaire Black entertainers and athletes right now than at any other point in American history, right? Yet, Black people still collectively hold less wealth in this country than at any point in our history post-slavery.
 
He won't. And let's not talk about the lazy, no-ambition having bum in the video below who was waiting on the government to hand him a check!


There is a difference between being progressive while demanding your due vs sitting idle. while waiting for your due
 
It has already been established that the "individual solutions" you speak of won't dent the systemic and structural changes that we are talking about.

For example, there are more millionaire Black entertainers and athletes right now than at any other point in American history, right? Yet, Black people still collectively hold less wealth in this country than at any point in our history post-slavery.
So where is your example of collectives denting the wealth gap?
Btw you're talking about millionaires and I am talking about individuals in the community changing their way of thinking and moving. Which helps the community to progress as a whole.
 
So where is your example of collectives denting the wealth gap?
Btw you're talking about millionaires and I am talking about individuals in the community changing their way of thinking and moving. Which helps the community to progress as a whole.

It may help the overall standard of living for the people in the community. But it does not dent the wealth gap. And my examples of addressing that are rooted in the overall government policies over the past century. Classes of people are created by these policies, and that includes the billionaire super-rich we are seeing today.

Supersav.

Which post? I've never seen him say that.
 
It may help the overall standard of living for the people in the community. But it does not dent the wealth gap. And my examples of addressing that are rooted in the overall government policies over the past century. Classes of people are created by these policies, and that includes the billionaire super-rich we are seeing today.



Which post? I've never seen him say that.
Correction Soul on Ice.

 
Ok stay with me Im going to reel it in,

Lets just take a trip across the pond to Africa, bruh thats whats pissess me off,

as Africa slowly gets its independence, it has a chance to start over fresh, focus

on developing solar systems and other natural technology, but they are allowing

other countries to keep them hooked on fossil fuels, developing the same ol played

out dinosaur structures that depend on gas and electricity, they are just becoming

followers of a dying system instead of innovators of a new one, of course this is due

mostly to economic bullying and manipulating from western countries like england, france, germany, u.s...

but its also due to too much national "tribal" division that europeans love to play on..

now with us..like you said especially our generation as a collective are stuck in the 70's 80's and 90's....

sure some maybe into social media, but not as a tool to make money, but as a consumer to give away

all their free data..

but the good news is many of us are slowly catching on, and are finally realizing that, the only way to

move up and STAY up, is to find the next new thing, we are slowly getting into stocks, realizing that instead of

spending that bag on a stupid bag, or qtr million dollar car..

take that 100 g, put it in the stock market after doing your research, and have it work for you ten times over...

I see my people slowly creeping into the crypto, even tho many are skeptical because they dont understand,

its a patience game...

they expecting that shit to pay off instantly like hitting the numbers.. :lol:

which actually does, but that takes a few months of research and understanding

patterns.. and once you do that..the possible of that

money coming in like hitting the numbers improves immensely..

but chea my people have to realize in a capitalist society you better

be on the lookout for the next biggest thing...

in 2000 it was the internet...

2021 its the changing stock and crypto markets.....

the funny shit is.. crypto is actually saving the stock market...


ask goldman sachs how much they made since they entered the game..

just tell em you want to see the real books, not the show and

tell books...lol

but chea we slowly getting into the game, I see a few bruhs in the hood,

holding investment classes...

and they have to hold classes because so many folks stuck in the earlier decades

they dont even realize everything you need to know is on

the web..

there is no need whatsoever to pay for a college course..

fucking mit, harvard etc all have FREE courses on youtube...

colleges and universities dont want to admit it, but

they are really useless as long as there is an internet...

all the REAL experts in their field ONLINE...

my homie is in a private chat group, and they got

all the lowkey crypto billionaires telling them when

and what to buy and sell...

he said right now, they expecting the market to explode,

so the whales as usual trying to scare away all the weak hands...

and grab shit up..
Sad thing is retail going to be protected right out of the real money. You know the rule in business where you say 'yes' and figure the rest out later? Well, the SEC is saying 'no" and figuring the rest out later. :smh: See they just told coinbase 'No' to the yield product? This follows all the state regulators coming down on retail getting real interest rates instead of that .006 percent shit. Or if you come into the bank with the coupon code promo, you get the .06!!! The big bucks.

Investor protection will be the political narrative as speculation runs wild for the big money as they keep up this fiat hustle. Watch as they sick their political lap dogs like Elizabeth Warren on voters to 'help them'.

You are right about patience. But the bankers make it so the average investor can't have patience. Folks ain't got years to play the long game when they check-to-check. Sadly, game will always be rigged for most. Weak hands giving to the strong. At the same time, can't be a Suze Orman investor playing to retire at 65. Kind of life is that? Get in the box with your money bitch.

MSM inspired shakeouts will be brutal. But just remember, government needs those tax dollars. They ain't going to run the money out, just regulate it for the banker bros.
 
Supersav.
I have stated plenty of times that the focus should be on policy and not people. That doesn't mean I expect the government to do anything for us as a people at all. Also doesn't mean like you and Tito I'm foolish enough to believe anybody can make it if they just work hard. That would be ignoring the policies I referenced
 
Correction Soul on Ice.


That's how you took this?

This is sad shit guys. I understand this is where everyone are millionaires and shit, but dont yall get tired of being the only Black person on your 1st class flight to Hawaii. I am.
It pains me to see our people fucked up here like this. I've said it before and have no shame, that the only way the rest of our people are getting out this is with Gov't assistance. Damn you all who thinks otherwise!

I take that as him saying that the creation of solid Black middle-class and change in the wealth gap requires government intervention. You know, kinda like the whites got and MLK explained in the video and as explained in the articles I posted earlier (that you don't want to read).
 
It may help the overall standard of living for the people in the community. But it does not dent the wealth gap. And my examples of addressing that are rooted in the overall government policies over the past century. Classes of people are created by these policies, and that includes the billionaire super-rich we are seeing today.



Which post? I've never seen him say that.
See this is what I am saying. You dismiss the solutions coming from individuals as not being a solution for denting the wealth gap. Yet you're pushing waiting for the government to correct the problem. Then you ask who's arguing being idle while waiting for the government?

If the government isn't going to correct the situation in the immediate present or the future. Then what are the solutions for black folk right now without government assistance?

Are we going to tell adults and future adults no matter what you do your efforts won't put a dent in the wealth gap or do we tell them to put in work the to create wealth on your own?
 
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See this is what I am saying. You dismiss the solutions coming from individuals as being a solution for denting the wealth gap. Yet you're pushing wanting the government to correct the problem. Then you ask who's arguing being idle while waiting for the government?

I'm not simply "dismissing" the solutions you speak of. I'm saying that it's been empirically proven that those solutions DON'T WORK!

Key Findings
  • The median black household holds just ten percent of the wealth of median white household, and while blacks constitute thirteen percent of America’s population, they hold less than three percent of its wealth.
  • None of the myths commonly offered to explain away the racial wealth gap–a need for greater educational attainment, homeownership, or entrepreneurship; a lack of proper savings behavior, financial literacy, or commitment to “buying and banking black”; or a renewed focus towards soft skills, personal responsibility, improved family structures, or emulating successful minorities–come close to accounting for the vastness of the gap.
  • Often these myths aren’t just wrong, but the exact opposite is true. For example, on the topic of savings behavior: “A study conducted by the Institute on Assets and Social Policy using the 2013 Survey of Consumer Finances found that, at comparable levels of income, whites spend 1.3 times more than blacks.” Or, when it comes to prioritizing education, black families tend to be more supportive of children’s education (through direct financial support) than white families in similar households and socioeconomic positions.
Or how about:
  • Majority-Black neighborhoods hold $609 billion in owner-occupied housing assets and are home to approximately 10,000 public schools and over 3 million businesses. We find that in the average U.S. metropolitan area, homes in neighborhoods where the share of the population is 50 percent Black are valued at roughly half the price as homes in neighborhoods with no Black residents.
  • According to our analysis, differences in home and neighborhood quality do not fully explain the devaluation of homes in Black neighborhoods. Homes of similar quality in neighborhoods with similar amenities are worth 23 percent less ($48,000 per home on average, amounting to $156 billion in cumulative losses) in majority Black neighborhoods, compared to those with very few or no Black residents.
Or how about:

A Bad Check for Black America
Nixon’s embrace of “black capitalism” was a canny move that ultimately decimated the black community and turned the wealth gap into a wealth chasm.​

If the government isn't going to correct the situation in the immediate present or the future. Then what are the solutions for black folk right now without government assistance?

Are we going to tell adults and future adults not matter what you do your efforts won't put a dent in the wealth gap or do will tell them to put in work to great wealth on your own?

No, we do what we've always done. Make do the best way we can and take advantages of whatever opportunities we can. But don't go around blaming yourself and your own people because of a society and government policies that were set up and designed for you to NOT make it.
 
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