Exactly. But some have been bringing science into it for quite some time. I just never did get their arguments.
South African girl doesn't believe in gravity. No really
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Exactly. But some have been bringing science into it for quite some time. I just never did get their arguments.
I think because people looks at science in a general perspective. When someone say science, they probably immediately associated with math and physics, but then bring in a social science to connect with.
I see all three differently.
As a certified homosexual idiot, you do not realise the difference between an
economic and a philosophical consideration. The reason why we mus adapt
the former is due to the scarcity of our resources as Africans, and the reason
why the latter is imperative, is we must continue to ask questions. This is
why the theory of Newton was expanded by Einstein, and then applied to an
entirely new regime by Rutherford and Bohr.... What she alluded to has a
place, but only to those who can afford to dabble in the realm of the abstract
Lastly I need no advice from your ass
I thought you were talking to me... carry on homo
Lol but we already agree that she is stupid for the reasons you pointed out. You wanna argue the abstract, then you talk about it cuz she wasn't. The minute she starts talking about shooting lightening someone she's out of the abstract world. I know exactly where he initial frustration lies but she is so piss poor at the abstract she can't address science. And worse she's arrogant about her ignorance. You're trying to compensate for her stupidity , but you need a better poster child to throw your support behind.
On top of that you've already shit in South Africans thousands of times anyway, but for some reason this case you're trying to play devil's advocate on her behalf. I'm not shitting on south Africa like you. I'm shitting on HER and people who think like her- btw a ton of people who think like her are hillbilly CACs who live in this country as well. She doesn't realize how close her views are to these anti scieonce CACs.
You and I already agree. She's wrong. You should spend your time correcting the other idiots in this thread.
Anyone with w brain does. The people in here on their computers trying to find a point to agree with this chick on just wanna debate.
Notice theres a guy telling me I don't understand the abstract, meanwhile we've been discussing those aspects the whole time , independent of that conversation.
It might be because 'western science' has been dominated by whites. Even today, black people make up only 6 percent of those in STEM. Although that's up from 2 percent just decades ago, it's still not a lot. I believe some talk shit about science because they perceive it to be just white men running around in lab coats. Makes it an easy target for
"fuck those cacs and their science!" As if science can be owned. 
It's also like some cats don't look at the information(which is important in science), but they are more concerned if a white person said it -- even if the fucking info makes sense. In a thread about Stephen Hawking talking about hostile aliens, some cats were basically saying that's eurocentric thinking. Preparing for all possible scenarios with a technologically advanced group is somehow eurocentric thinking.
Un fucking believable.
I have shit on Ethiopians, and their slave-owning history; I have also criticised
Nelson Mandela, but I would never criticise South Africans. If you must know,
like most people from Southern Africa, there is a sliver of Zulu heritage on my
mother's side, traced through one our ancestors named Mthalimanja, meaning
the "long armed one............."
What seems to have been going on was an academic debate, and the girl happened
to aver, in her own inarticulate way, that we Africans should do more to advance
knowledge in our own name...As an example, she alluded to the phenomena of artificial
lightening, and you might think that she was hallucinating. In fact, when I was
about 5 or 6 years old, and we lived in a rural area where my father was a government
officer working for the forestry department, my mother brewed a local beer, which
people came to drink at our home for a price. The story goes that these two old men
got drunk and started quarreling loudly. One of them the told the other to not play with
him because he "was young and did not what he was messing with". Among Africans,
this statement is very disrespectful, and it is said that the insulted one then did some
action the resulted in a magical threat. The one who issued the insult then responded
by pointing in the sky, and causing lightening to strike near his opponent.
Again, this is said to have happened behind our house where a bunch of these
characters were drinking beer. I did not see anything, but the story is recounted
with complete conviction by those who claim to have been eyewitnesses. I can tell
more stories on witchcraft than you want to hear. As I have said, I have never seen
any proof, but I know few Africans who do not hold that art to be completely true..
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Right.
Don't just take their word for it find out on your own.
You know as if these scientist have never been wrong before...
they told us there were nine planets..
they told us bats were blind..
one time they claimed the god race aka "black" folks
were inferior because of the shapes of our skulls...
they even thought the world was flat at one time and you could sail off of it....
And just as some people think science is for white folks there are TONS of white folks who know just as little about science and say some of the same shit these nuts are saying, minus the charges of white supremacy. That's the funniest part about this, she's right there with hillbillys and religious right wackos. Superstition doesn't belong to Africans anymore than science belongs to white people. There are people who understand what it is and how works and the process through which it gets updated and there are those who think it's some static never changing viewpoint- like their religion is.It might be because 'western science' has been dominated by whites. Even today, black people make up only 6 percent of those in STEM. Although that's up from 2 percent just decades ago, it's still not a lot. I believe some talk shit about science because they perceive it to be just white men running around in lab coats. Makes it an easy target for
It's also like some cats don't look at the information(which is important in science), but they are more concerned if a white person said it -- even if the fucking info makes sense. In a thread about Stephen Hawking talking about hostile aliens, some cats were basically saying that's eurocentric thinking. Preparing for all possible scenarios with a technologically advanced group is somehow eurocentric thinking.
Obviously if life started in Africa, then all the things we did through observing nature, coming up with languages, tools, ways to survive is all SCIENCE.
Once people migrated out of Africa,those within the continent and outside of it built shelters, agriculture, used plants as medicine, all of that uses scientific principles.
The arabs named the stars , the Indians gave us the number 0, written languages come from all over, ideas converge, people debate, test, prove and disprove principles and laws -- all of that is science and it belongs to no one. And no one just believes something prescribed as law or theory just off of what someone says, partucularly those people she is mad at who have big names like Newton or Einstein. Newton had a hello a time proving his observations AND even he dealt in forms of superstition. We all.do to some degree.
I wonder if he's been in the hand verification thread...hold on...
come on - you can do better than this...
biologists never claimed bats were blind - this is a popular legend or folklore that was accepted as fact - like pigs are filthy, or up to 5 years ago Trump is a great businessman or Reagan was a great president, nevermind the treason
9 planets changed because the definition of what is a planet evolved not because the data collected was incorrect
the rest was racist ignorant and really propaganda like when just before committing genocide a leader or government singles out people of a certain race or religion as roaches and dogs etc
worst of all nothing you listed was presented after experiment or observation following scientific method
True, but I think there are some who want to own it. It's like when a cac says 'we' did this, or 'we' did that about science when the cac saying it can barely make a peanut butter & jelly sandwich, forget designing a rocket or accomplishing anything major in science. Some people want to take ownership of science whether past or present. They have agendas. 99 percent of the people trying to take ownership of science aren't fucking scientists. lol
Oh for sure. My bad for not mentioning that. Meanwhile see these dummies still trying to pull the "you ain't black " move Everytime they get owned even years later? We've all been down this road before. Weakest argument in the world.
And on top of it all there's nothing wrong with correcting what you got wrong before once you have new information. Anyone who doesn't understand that basic fact doesn't understand what science is and doesn't belong in this thread.
Engage with people who have some damn sense and you won't have that problem. Vicious, SelfScience, Sammyjax, and RoadRage ain't going to do that shit. They'll stick to the subject at hand and definitely make the discourse interesting. They all seem to be objective thinkers. We know selfscience is an actual scientist, don't know what the others do.
that's yo potna though
Trolled this thread properly.
You betta watch yo mouth boy and ask permission to speak
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Dude euros be just coming up With crazy shit like the planet vulcan.
Why did you ignore the fact that scientist once believed the world was flat...
all of a sudden Pluto is no longer a planet
Shit just evolved in the last hundred years
No other planet but pluto.....yeah ok.
You say its because of evolutionary changes
Or could it be they just didn't know what the fuck they were taking about.
Don't get me wrong if I had children they would be steered towards science and math.
I'm just saying just because it comes out the mouth of a cracker don't make it facts
Like their pseudo science on skull size and intelligence.
And for the right price you can get scientist to prove anything you want.
never believe something non biographical just because xyz said so
I and others in this thread have said repeatedly science is about not believing what you are told but observing and learning for yourself. Don't take the word of scientists, find out for yourself - but that also requires an education. Failing that its better to say I don't know than to parrot ignorance or group think.
Yes centuries ago they did say many erroneous things before scientific methods were developed and standardized, but the thing with science is its always evolving each generation builds on or corrects the knowledge of the previous generations. So change is inevitable and constant.
As for paying a single scientist, doctor or researcher off that only works because most people refuse to even retain the basics of what they learned in school and aren't interested. A single scientist doesn't mean shit until he shows his data and collection method or process and then it has to be replicated by others before it gets any credibility
it's really quite fascinating.
You poor guy.
The reason why Pluto was downgraded is because of advancement of technology that lead to the belief that there may be as many as a 100 other dwarf planet beyond the kuiper belt... So the choice was to either keep Pluto as a planet or include all the other dwarf planets in our solar system... I think for the sake of knowing all the planets its a lot more easier remembering 8 planets than trying to figure out the name of 118...
basically shares its orbit with other bodies - so it can't be a planet
Pluto and many other of the kuiper belt object do orbit our sun, much the way other planets do (although not on the same plane), so its orbit is not the reason why Pluto was downgraded..
"Clearing the neighbourhood around its orbit" is a criterion for a celestial body to be considered a planet in the Solar System. This was one of the three criteria adopted by the International Astronomical Union (IAU) in its 2006 definition of planet.[1] In 2015, a proposal was made to use the criterion in extending the definition to exoplanets.[2]Pluto and many other of the kuiper belt object do orbit our sun, much the way other planets do (although not on the same plane), so its orbit is not the reason why Pluto was downgraded..
Charon is almost half the size of Pluto and shares the same orbit. Pluto and Charon are thus essentially a double planet. Two additional moons, Hydra and Nix, were discovered in 2005.
TheInternational Astronomical Union (IAU) downgraded the status of Pluto to that of a dwarf planet because it did not meet the three criteria the IAU uses to define a full-sized planet. Essentially Pluto meets all the criteria except one- it “has not cleared its neighboring region of other objects.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearing_the_neighbourhood
http://www.physics.org/article-questions.asp?id=49
https://www.loc.gov/rr/scitech/mysteries/pluto.html
OK cool you are a voice of reason unlike some other posters who just bore people to death with their feeble attempts at acquiring credibility.
Exactly so what's to say they aren't going to come up with more advancement to offset the shit they saying now....
Which is why you have to take it all with a grain of salt.
I just know for the right price you can find a scientist aka so called expert to say what ever it is you want him to say and have the "research" to back it up.
Scientist in the science community knows that nothing is absolute and really and knows knowledge unlike mythology and religion science is always challenging itself, I mean anyone can literally challenge any scientist with facts and if you have enough you will win...
The only area of science you hear me get on is theoretical physics and even that its not so much the physics but the people who often misinterpret their theories for facts just to morph it into so pseudo intellectual sci-fi bullshit...
I see people do it all the time to the point that its now becoming one of my pet peeves...
Interesting thread.
Exiledking is correct, but, there is no need to sound so condescending. People have different experiences in life and you can't label someone stupid from a 2 minute video on science vs black magic.
Exiledking is correct, but, there is no need to sound so condescending. People have different experiences in life and you can't label someone stupid from a 2 minute video on science vs black magic.
True but it doesn't change the facf that for the right price you can get one of these scientist aka "experts" to come to any conclusion you want them to...ask any prosecutor about these whores I mean experts/scientist.
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