Sons Of Anarchy The Final Season!!! Official Thread. HOLY SHIT!

Happy getting shot and reacting like he got stung by a bee was hilarious to me

SOA was like a comic book show to me.

Jax died 54-0

and it was funny how they even had a random badly filmed chase scene in the last episode

and where did the little short Mexican come from :confused:

Montez has been in the show as a role player since Bobby came back from gathering more members, you need to pay attention.

The chase scene was one last joyride, hearkening back to other chase scenes. Again, if you pay just a little attention and listen to the song of choice - it's their love of the outlaw motorcycle life.

It's also a way to get Jax onto his father's bike. He already put on his father's boots to finish the job his father had started.

All the pulpy stuff is for entertainment value. It's not real life so you can have some fun with it.

But it's incredibly layered with a veneer of ridiculous action.
 
FINAL QUESTIONS:

1. What was up with Jax's leg in the final episode?

2. Who killed Gemma's crows?

3. Who put the knife through the teddy bear and wrote that note?

4. How were they able to pull Jax's son from school and move to another country with an open abuse case from child services's?

Charlie Hunnam apparently had a broken toe in real life.

August Marks' people did no 2 and no 3.

For no. 4, it's a tv show. If you're asking those questions you missed the point.
 
We still dont really Know. Jurry Could have just been fucking with Jax.

Regardless, Gemma and Clay themselves thought they killed JT and was ready to do anything to keep that a secret.

They did kill JT. But JT also allowed it. That was the moment he knew his time would be limited. Jury revealing that info about JT gave more insight into how far he was willing to go. Perhaps JT's "sacrifice" was more selfish than Jax's, because it completely gave Jax over to the club.
 
This ending was bullshit

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But it's to be expected. Jax going out as the Superman Jesus Assassin makes sense basing it on how things have gone throughout the series.

It did tie things up, but the ending, the mayhem vote...nah


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1. ya that shit was random and pointless...I thought dude woulda suffered a blood clot like someone said

2. & 3. I seen y'all debate this a few times and making it more than it needs to be...marks and co. is the best guess we can make

4. it's TV :lol::cool:

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Chibs is reeling from the conversation with Jax and what will happen.

With that said, whatever happens after is speculation.

Jax succeeded. At the point of his death, SAMCRO is legit and his family is leaving Charming.

Abel has the ring, but it's not a given he'll be in SAMCRO. In fact I can say that he wouldn't be in the club at all. The ring is a link to JT and Jax, and he twists the ring around the same way Jax does. However, Jax wants his sons to hate him, and they will. There is no Gemma there to push them to the club. Wendy won't. Nero won't. As long as Chibs, Tig, Happy or any of the other guys are in the club Abel won't join unless it was allowed to save Abel from a worse fate.

c'mon dude...you say after jax death is all speculation then say "in fact":rolleyes::lol: Since we're speculating I could say that given the fact that Abel has the same troubled/broken heart condition that Gemma and his uncle Thomas had (3 generations) that he would probably end up a badass getting involved in some kind of criminal life anyway maybe not a motorcycle gang but some kind of organized crime ring and Thomas born healthy and having never known any of those people in his family history would become either a cop or prosecutor.
 
c'mon dude...you say after jax death is all speculation then say "in fact":rolleyes::lol: Since we're speculating I could say that given the fact that Abel has the same troubled/broken heart condition that Gemma and his uncle Thomas had (3 generations) that he would probably end up a badass getting involved in some kind of criminal life anyway maybe not a motorcycle gang but some kind of organized crime ring and Thomas born healthy and having never known any of those people in his family history would become either a cop or prosecutor.

Yeah, because as I started to think about it, the lengths Jax went to to get his kids out of the life were extreme. I mean, I can see it happening, things can change. But as far as the way the story played out at the end it cheapens Jax's death if the kid manages to become SAMCRO in terms of THIS story.

I do like how you're saying that people can't change, their bound to the past. I could liken that to another group of people who say that about another group of people that you would refute...
 
Yeah, because as I started to think about it, the lengths Jax went to to get his kids out of the life were extreme. I mean, I can see it happening, things can change. But as far as the way the story played out at the end it cheapens Jax's death if the kid manages to become SAMCRO in terms of THIS story.

I do like how you're saying that people can't change, their bound to the past. I could liken that to another group of people who say that about another group of people that you would refute...

social commentary aside:rolleyes: I'm just saying that the reality of SOA that sutter designed always had fucked up bitter endings for everyone.

JT died knowing he failed his club and his wife and best friend were plotting against him.

Piney died at the hands of his own club brother

Otto suffered and died for the club even tho bobby fucked his woman who also was killed.

Opie's wife died in a fucked up plan to kill opie by clay and tig

Opie died for the club

Bobby was tortured and killed for the club

Tara suffered and died becuz of the club

Juice died a prison bitch for the club

Clay died at the hands of the club after all the shit pulled.

A whole bunch of hookers, johns,former allied gang members and civilians died for nothing.

This is the reality sutter created..people suffer and die most time unexpectedly. Some people were pissed that even tho Gemma finally got got for all the shit she stirred she went out on her terms. Tara never had a chance to hug and say goodbye to her kids and reflect on her life then call the shot. For the people who aren't happy about how the show ended its probably becuz after 7 seasons of all that death and suffering of some really likable and popular characters to see jax tie up ALL the loose ends and go out with a smile on his face kind of up ends how the show went up till then. So if there were a sequel/next generation show to come up after and we see abel or thomas have become criminals which would render all of jax effort moot then THATS in the vein of the reality which SOA operated.
 
Sons of Anarchy Series Finale Rides Off Into the Sunset on a Worn-Out Metaphor

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The Shakespearean parallels in Sons of Anarchy have always been completely obvious. Jax = Hamlet, Tara = Ophelia, Gemma = Gertrude, Clay = Claudius, etc. etc. But if you were brushing up on your Shakespeare in order to predict the series finale of Sons of Anarchy, you were reading the wrong book. So many main characters died to get us to the finale—Opie, Clay, Bobby, Tara, Juice, Gemma, Unser, etc.—that you would be forgiven if you thought it was Act V of Hamlet, the stage littered with bodies, and only the prince’s death remaining. But Jax Teller wasn’t Hamlet last night, he was Jesus Christ himself as he rode to his death.

The episode kicked off on a biblical note with Bruce Springsteen’s “Adam Raised a Cain,” a song creator Kurt Sutter told Vanity Fair he’s wanted on the show for years. But that wasn’t the last biblical allusion. Far from it. Sons of Anarchy was so enamored with the idea of Jax as Jesus that they packed the episode to the gills with references to his martyrdom. Any one of these Jesus references might have been a nice touch, but the frenzy of imagery just made Jax’s end ridiculous, rather than tragic. Here are just a few of the allusions Sons of Anarchy made.

He Died for Our Sins: The first clue is right there in the plot, which is all about Jax sacrificing himself so his sons can have a better life. Wendy, Nero, Abel, and Thomas escape from Charming to a farm in the country. That’s not a euphemism! They presumably live happily ever after! But the survivors only get their happy ending because Jax died to make everything cleaner not just for his sons, but for his apostles. On his way out, Jax took a lot of people down with him including those who pose a threat to the club including the I.R.A., August Marks, and corrupt cop Charlie Barosky. I don’t remember Jesus going out on such a violent note, but the end result is the same. Chibs, Tigg, Happy, and the rest will be safe from retribution. Jax made heaven on earth for those he loved and died for the sins of those who came before him.

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His Own Personal Jesus: Jax finally asks the mysterious homeless woman who has been haunting Sons of Anarchy since the pilot who, exactly, she is. Her hooded robe/blanket makes her look like the Grim Reapers on the back of the SAMCRO jackets.

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Jax wears the same blanket later, just before killing Marks, reinforcing the Reaper image.

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She tells Jax it’s time (time to die), so Grim Reaper or the angel of death seems like a pretty safe bet, but then the camera zooms in on her snack. Hobo wine and bread? Basically the Eucharist? Jesus figure it is, then!

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That means a Jesus figure has been looking over Jax and Gemma in their times of turmoil. The image of the bread and wine comes back around when Jax dies later in the episode, just as his father did, by driving John Teller’s bike straight into a semi-truck. Only this time it’s not wine, it’s blood. Jax’s blood seeping into frame is the last shot of the series.

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It should be noted that just before Teller’s blood enters the frame, some crows are seen pecking at the bread.

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Which is an homage not only to the Sons of Anarchy theme song (“a crow flies straight”), but to the first scene from the very first episode

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The Fallen Woman: Jax has always spent time with the prostitutes and porn stars that hang around his club. But this scene with Lyla, complete with a fatherly, beneficent kiss on the forehead, is especially Christ-like.

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The Father and the Son: Jax’s last conversation is with his father. Sound familiar? Standing in front of the memorial on the highway where John Teller died, Jax says, “I know who you are know. I know what you did. I love you, Dad.”

Strike a Pose: Jax’s final pose alone was probably sufficient.

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The Word: But if that wasn’t enough, then here comes Michael Chiklis, reprising his cameo as a truck driver, to drive the message home. Here are the final words of Sons of Anarchy.

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It’s not the first time that phrase has been said on Sons of Anarchy. Not by a long shot. Perhaps we should have seen this coming all along.



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Sons of Anarchy’ Finale Rides Off with 9.2 Million Viewers

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FX is still partying on “Sons of Anarchy’s” finale ratings. The drama delivered 9.26 million viewers for its Dec. 9 finale, according to Nielsen’s live-plus-3 ratings that track DVR viewing within three days of the premiere airing.

With that L3 rating the two-hour seg amounts to the most-watched installment of the series’ 92-episode run, and its highest-rated in all three key demos: adults 18-34 (2.89 million), adults 18-49 (6 million) and adults 25-54 (6.29 million).

FX has determined that “Sons of Anarchy’s” seventh swan-song season ranks as the most-watched season of any series in the cabler’s 20-year history. “Sons” averaged 7.54 million total viewers and 5 million in adults 18-49, which marks a high concentration of younger viewers even for a cable drama.

“Sons” beat its own record as the previous FX record-holder for most-watched season, its sixth.

“It’s a rare and remarkable accomplishment for a television show to generate its – and our channel’s – highest ratings in its final season,” said John Landgraf, CEO of FX Networks and FX Prods. “We thank (creator) Kurt Sutter and his team for an epic ride.”
 
Let's add more to it.

It was his rage and unadulterated vengeance which lead to him killing Jury. Sounds like the Old Testament.

Like Kurt often has Jax say "were all about the poetry, baby"

Jax doesn't have to ride off if he doesn't get the mayhem vote, if he never admits his fault.

But he washes his sins away there so to speak. Comes clean. And he carries the cross for that, not the club. He's out there on his bike, by himself. While his apostles wait for word of his passing.
 
Let's add more to it.

It was his rage and unadulterated vengeance which lead to him killing Jury. Sounds like the Old Testament.

Like Kurt often has Jax say "were all about the poetry, baby"

Jax doesn't have to ride off if he doesn't get the mayhem vote, if he never admits his fault.

But he washes his sins away there so to speak. Comes clean. And he carries the cross for that, not the club. He's out there on his bike, by himself. While his apostles wait for word of his passing.

:lol::lol: we go from 7 seasons of hamlet to 3 episodes of the passion of the christ..:lol::lol: talk about contrivance:lol:

where was the 40 days of fasting, the temptation by satan, the sermon on the mount, I guess juice was judas?

who denied knowing jax 3 times? was the black family analogous to the soldier who got his ear cut off and healed by christ the night they came to arrest him?:rolleyes::rolleyes:

hell lets go even further and say that 3 days after they bury Jax Wendy finds out she's pregnant with his baby..he has risen and she's names him Jackson Teller II..and one day Jax will return to the club and redeem it..:rolleyes:
 
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:lol::lol: we go from 7 seasons of hamlet to 3 episodes of the passion of the christ..:lol::lol: talk about contrivance:lol:

where was the 40 days of fasting, the temptation by satan, the sermon on the mount, I guess juice was judas?

who denied knowing jax 3 times? was the black family analogous to the soldier who got his ear cut off and healed by christ the night they came to arrest him?:rolleyes::rolleyes:

hell lets go even further and say that 3 days after they bury Jax Wendy finds out she's pregnant with his baby..he has risen and she's names him Jackson Teller II..and one day Jax will return to the club and redeem it..:rolleyes:

aren't you trying to become a storyteller?

because Sutter said it's like hamlet with motorcycles means he's bound and tied to that type of story?

In fact

Kurt Sutter, has said, “I don't want to overplay that but it's there. It's not a version of Hamlet but it's definitely influenced by it.”

So while it's influenced by it, it's also influenced by many other things.

You're so fucking stupid man. Because the ending has a connection to the Jesus story, it has to have EVERYTHING else with it? It can only be all Hamlet or all Jesus?

Find another interest. I GUARANTEE you will not be doing ANYTHING with your screenplays. This is my professional observation.

ASPECTS of the show can have influences from different stories. The ENTIRE show doesn't have to have just one. I'm repeating myself in hopes you can fucking get it.
 
aren't you trying to become a storyteller?

because Sutter said it's like hamlet with motorcycles means he's bound and tied to that type of story?

In fact



So while it's influenced by it, it's also influenced by many other things.

You're so fucking stupid man. Because the ending has a connection to the Jesus story, it has to have EVERYTHING else with it? It can only be all Hamlet or all Jesus?

Find another interest. I GUARANTEE you will not be doing ANYTHING with your screenplays. This is my professional observation.

ASPECTS of the show can have influences from different stories. The ENTIRE show doesn't have to have just one. I'm repeating myself in hopes you can fucking get it.

yeah I read that quote too..so what..people BEEN complaining about the all the place aspect of SOA thats what I was poking fun at or did all the laffing emoticons fly over your head you humorless fucktard. The whole Jesus of Nazareth/Jackson of Charming thing was something sutter pulled out of his ass to find a convienent way to wrap up all the loose ends and give it some false sense of gravitas.. you know it, I know and anyone whose watched all 7 seasons knows it.

So you can stick your "professional observation" up your ass youre not impressing anyone.
 
yeah I read that quote too..so what..people BEEN complaining about the all the place aspect of SOA thats what I was poking fun at or did all the laffing emoticons fly over your head you humorless fucktard. The whole Jesus of Nazareth/Jackson of Charming thing was something sutter pulled out of his ass to find a convienent way to wrap up all the loose ends and give it some false sense of gravitas.. you know it, I know and anyone whose watched all 7 seasons knows it.

So you can stick your "professional observation" up your ass youre not impressing anyone.

Wow. In this situation aggressive condescension IS NOT SEVERING YOU WELL.

Do what you do.

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yeah I read that quote too..so what..people BEEN complaining about the all the place aspect of SOA thats what I was poking fun at or did all the laffing emoticons fly over your head you humorless fucktard. The whole Jesus of Nazareth/Jackson of Charming thing was something sutter pulled out of his ass to find a convienent way to wrap up all the loose ends and give it some false sense of gravitas.. you know it, I know and anyone whose watched all 7 seasons knows it.

So you can stick your "professional observation" up your ass youre not impressing anyone.
People are always serious until they get set straight. Then it was just jokes.

What's all over the place is YOU.

I haven't read anything that said the finale was all over the place. People are starting to think TV shows and movies are documentaries and everything has to be spelled out, or completely realistic as it would be if it's real life.

Your 'laffing' emoticons didn't fly over my head. They were intended to be condescending and you really thought that because Sutter opted with an ending in which Jax gave his life to set SAMCRO straight and to sever the outlaw tie to his family for his sons it was contrived.

It was anything but contrived.
 
yeah I read that quote too..so what..people BEEN complaining about the all the place aspect of SOA thats what I was poking fun at or did all the laffing emoticons fly over your head you humorless fucktard. The whole Jesus of Nazareth/Jackson of Charming thing was something sutter pulled out of his ass to find a convienent way to wrap up all the loose ends and give it some false sense of gravitas.. you know it, I know and anyone whose watched all 7 seasons knows it.

So you can stick your "professional observation" up your ass youre not impressing anyone.
People are always serious until they get set straight. Then it was just jokes.

What's all over the place is YOU.

I haven't read anything that said the finale was all over the place. People are starting to think TV shows and movies are documentaries and everything has to be spelled out, or completely realistic as it would be if it's real life.

Your 'laffing' emoticons didn't fly over my head. They were intended to be condescending and you really thought that because Sutter opted with an ending in which Jax gave his life to set SAMCRO straight and to sever the outlaw tie to his family for his sons it was contrived.

It was anything but contrived.
 
People are always serious until they get set straight. Then it was just jokes.

What's all over the place is YOU.

I haven't read anything that said the finale was all over the place. People are starting to think TV shows and movies are documentaries and everything has to be spelled out, or completely realistic as it would be if it's real life.

Your 'laffing' emoticons didn't fly over my head. They were intended to be condescending and you really thought that because Sutter opted with an ending in which Jax gave his life to set SAMCRO straight and to sever the outlaw tie to his family for his sons it was contrived.

It was anything but contrived.

just becuz YOU haven't read anything doesn't mean those articles and opinions aren't out there. what makes you think others don't feel the same way. In fact people in the freaking thread expressed some level of dissatisfaction with as someone said superman white jesus.

The Bloody, Frustrating End of Sons of Anarchy

And no one wants a documentary just a consistency with how the show flows. The all loose ends tied up a little too neatly made some people go:rolleyes: considering all the death and destruction and fall out we witnessed for 7 seasons. The bread and wine and outstretched hands..you may have thought that shit was poetic but others thought it was :rolleyes::rolleyes:

some people were happy with it some weren't deal with it...
 
just becuz YOU haven't read anything doesn't mean those articles and opinions aren't out there. what makes you think others don't feel the same way. In fact people in the freaking thread expressed some level of dissatisfaction with as someone said superman white jesus.

The Bloody, Frustrating End of Sons of Anarchy

And no one wants a documentary just a consistency with how the show flows. The all loose ends tied up a little too neatly made some people go:rolleyes: considering all the death and destruction and fall out we witnessed for 7 seasons. The bread and wine and outstretched hands..you may have thought that shit was poetic but others thought it was :rolleyes::rolleyes:

some people were happy with it some weren't deal with it...

Of course you're going to find people who didn't like it. You'll find that anywhere for any thing. My point is, from a story standpoint, within the realm of the show and the world Sutter created - it works, it ties everything up, and it reaches back to the pilot, and other major points of the show.

For example, Jax saying to the club before he rides off "I got this"

Who else said that before he died for the club?

The blood and wine was heavy symbolism coupled with the outstretched arms.

But think practically at the same time. if you remove your hands from a motorcycle and ride like that... don't you put your arms outwards to some measure, to stabilize yourself? just a thought.

so that also can tie in. doing something natural (stretching out to balance) to use as symbolism. a homeless woman with bread and wine. something that isn't strange, but used as symbolism.
 
I still think it's funny that Unser had cancer for 7 years but wound up dying from a gunshot.

:lol: dude was getting stronger over the years..early in the series he was diagnosed as terminal and was coughy and sickly and needed to smoke pot for the chemo pain..then somewhere around s4 there was no more mention of cancer..
 
Of course you're going to find people who didn't like it. You'll find that anywhere for any thing. My point is, from a story standpoint, within the realm of the show and the world Sutter created - it works, it ties everything up, and it reaches back to the pilot, and other major points of the show.

For example, Jax saying to the club before he rides off "I got this"

Who else said that before he died for the club?

The blood and wine was heavy symbolism coupled with the outstretched arms.

But think practically at the same time. if you remove your hands from a motorcycle and ride like that... don't you put your arms outwards to some measure, to stabilize yourself? just a thought.

so that also can tie in. doing something natural (stretching out to balance) to use as symbolism. a homeless woman with bread and wine. something that isn't strange, but used as symbolism.

I explained why some people found the ending not satisfying....
The all loose ends tied up a little too neatly made some people go:rolleyes: considering all the death and destruction and fall out we witnessed for 7 seasons.
No reason to keep explaining it I got all the symbolism it was just heavy handed.
 
I've watched the entire series over the last two years on Netflix and just finished the last final episode this morning. I'm satisfied with the ending. After the murderous rampage Jax and the club was on i'm not mad at who ended up dead. I think Uncer death could have been handeled differently with Gemma showing some emotion but she probably knew it was best for him with her not being around anymore.
 
I've watched the entire series over the last two years on Netflix and just finished the last final episode this morning. I'm satisfied with the ending. After the murderous rampage Jax and the club was on i'm not mad at who ended up dead. I think Uncer death could have been handeled differently with Gemma showing some emotion but she probably knew it was best for him with her not being around anymore.

It was a perfect goodbye. It really showed how much she used him and gave no fucks about him.
 
First look: Kurt Sutter gets demonic for 'Lucas Stand'

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If hell's going to have a hitman, it's probably best that Kurt Sutter created him.

The producer behind Sons of Anarchy goes fromHamlet on bikes to otherworldly supernatural fantasy with the new Boom! Studios comic bookLucas Stand, debuting June 1 and written by Sutter and Caitlin Kittredge (Coffin Hill) with art by Jesús Hervás.

Sutter was a writer and producer on FX’s cop showThe Shield and juggled colorful motorcycle gangs on Sons before dreaming up the brutal (and short-lived) The Bastard Executioner, so when he admits that the central figure of Lucas Stand is “the darkest antihero or hero I’ve ever created,” that’s saying something.

Lucas is a former special-ops soldier who's seen and done heinous things. Returning home, he’s cut himself off from society and family. Carrying that burden becomes too much for him, so he tries to put a bullet in his head.



Instead of dying, though, he’s spared by the dark angel Gadriel, who tells him the balance of heaven and hell is out of whack because too many demons have escaped.

“Over the course of mankind, mortals who were technically not evil people and weren’t supposed to land in hell have been corrupted so much by the way we’ve learned to live,” Sutter explains, “and the temptations and the greed and the opulence of our lifestyles have turned the people who were supposed to be on a more altruistic path to the dark side.”

So Gadriel makes Lucas a deal: For every demon he kills, thereby saving a soul, he gets one of his own sins taken away so he can be redeemed and move on.

The complete seven-season story line of
Sons was told — and Sutter is currently developing The Mayans, an FX spinoff focusing on the Mexican bikers of SOA — but with Executionercut short after a single, low-rated season, Lucas gives Sutter a chance to tell a complete saga without boundaries, a CGI budget or the looming threat of cancellation.

“There’s all these crazy demons and amazing implements of death, and (I’m) able to run with it without worrying about ‘How the (expletive) are we going to do this?’ ” Sutter says with a laugh. “So that’s been very liberating.”

Comics: Kurt Sutter gets demonic for 'Lucas Stand'
 
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Sons Of Anarchy Cast Refuse To Show Up At Con Until Paid

This past weekend was supposed to be a joyous occasion for fans of Sons of Anarchy as many of the stars of FX's biker gang drama, which aired from 2008–2014, were scheduled to take part in a 3-day reunion event at Space City Comic Con in Houston, Texas. However, attendees experienced a disorganized convention with "long lines for VIPs, panels canceled, and photo op tickets not being honored."

"It was a truly insane show," a source for Bleeding Cool reported. "I don’t know everything that happened but people definitely were scammed, money seems to have been stolen, celebrities fled, the staff may not have been paid, the cops were called on the cast of Sons Of Anarchy, and a lot more true weirdness and pandemonium at a sparsely attended show in a huge convention hall."

Ava Jade, a journalist and field reporter for GSS, was on hand and was able to obtain even more details on what transpired.

"Upon arriving at their hotel, the cast was told that the credit card provided by the promoter would not be accepted, it would be cash only for their rooms," she reports on her website, officialavajade.com.

"When they arrived at the convention, Charlie had it out with the promoter to get to the bottom of it. He took his check to the bank to cash it, because he knew something was up. There he found out that the check that was given to him was written from an account that had been CLOSED. This happened to the entire cast. Many of the actors went to the promoters office to demand payment, where the promoter ended up calling the cops because he was 'being held hostage.'"
 
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