Sons Of Anarchy The Final Season!!! Official Thread. HOLY SHIT!
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im telling yall I disagree, Uncer has been simpin hard for Tara since last season. It wasnt about Gemma anymore. "This is all I got" was his redemption on Tara's behalf.
He stopped fucking with her the day he found out she was fucking Nero.
Thats why the exchange between Him ad Chucky was important because Chucky is the new Uncer.
He originally was helping Wendy, which lead to helping Juice, it was never about Gemma
Yeah, that bylaw has to do with the Grim Bastards. Wouldn't that give them a vote in this too? Maybe he will try to flip some One-Niners. He obviously has a plan, and his most loyal allies are black.
Gemma acted as if a goldfish died when Unser got popped. And Jax did Nero a favor by putting that rabid dog moms of his down.
Dirty bitch didn't even have the decency to kill herself. Made Jax do it so she can haunt his mind for the rest of his life. Even in death, she manipulates.
Gemma acted as if a goldfish died when Unser got popped. And Jax did Nero a favor by putting that rabid dog moms of his down.
Dirty bitch didn't even have the decency to kill herself. Made Jax do it so she can haunt his mind for the rest of his life. Even in death, she manipulates.
Beg to differ Opie is the most tragic son...
his wife was killed by tig and clay
his father was killed by clay
he died protecting jax
his kids are ophans being raised by a porn ho (lyla)
dudes whole family got wiped out over that club.
here's the ending. that's the kid wendy was preg with. that chibs crouching, tig on the left and happy on the right
if they do then they make juices death really pointless IMO..I get sutter not wanting to make samcro racist becuz theyre supposed to be antiheroes but if they really were racist against blacks and only dealt with blacks because they have a use then you can see how juice ended up the way he did..but bringing in a black MC pretty much makes the basis of juice's portrayal pointless and ridiculous. He was sent down this road ONLY because the last sheriff was black mailing him about being black in a club that doesn't allow blacks on pain of death or getting kicked out.. thats IT... thats what caused juices problems initially... So to NOW bring in a black members is does a disservice to his tribulations.. he essentially died for nothing.
It was Juice's choice to handle the situation the way he did. Clay, Chibs, and others weren't going to have a problem with him. Worst case scenario they say the secret stays at the table. This was when he was cool with everyone in the club. They weren't about to burn his ink off over that shit. Juice just handled shit like a paranoid bitch.
His death just shows how he ultimately caused his own death by not trusting the people he was down with.
His death just shows how he ultimately caused his own death by not trusting the people he was down with.
85% of the people on SOA got murked "for nothing".
The Mr. Mayhem face has been superimposed on Jax all season long. Sutter likes to strip people down to nothing before he kills them. Jax is just a shell of his former self. If he don't die Sutter sold out.
She went back I believe. But she will be in the finale
what was it that Manson said to Juice before shanking him..?
"You were good"
Beg to differ Opie is the most tragic son...
his wife was killed by tig and clay
his father was killed by clay
he died protecting jax
his kids are ophans being raised by a porn ho (lyla)
dudes whole family got wiped out over that club.
Song forget the tragedy of outto as well.
Don't forget the tragedy of outto as well.Beg to differ Opie is the most tragic son...
his wife was killed by tig and clay
his father was killed by clay
he died protecting jax
his kids are ophans being raised by a porn ho (lyla)
dudes whole family got wiped out over that club.
Katey Sagal on Gemma, Jax, and the Final Episodes of Sons of Anarchy
By Bruce Fretts
Warning: Major spoilers ahead for this week’s Sons of Anarchy episode, “Red Rose.”
“I was glad I made it to 12,” Katey Sagal tells Vulture of seeing her character, biker-gang matriarch Gemma Teller Morrow, killed off in the penultimate installment of Sons of Anarchy’s 13-episode final season. “You never know with this show. I was fine with going when I did.” Even though her back was turned on son Jax (Charlie Hunnam) when he shot her, Gemma saw it coming, since she’d murdered his beloved wife, Tara, setting off a chain reaction of violence that claimed many more lives. Sagal talks about saying good-bye to Gemma and her plans to reteam with her husband, SoA creator Kurt Sutter, on his next FX series, the medieval revenge drama The Bastard Executioner.
When did you know that you were going to die in the next-to-last episode?
I knew I was going to come to my demise about three or four episodes into this season. I didn’t know exactly when it was going to happen or what the circumstances would be. But Kurt told Charlie and me at the same time that Gemma was going to die at the hands of her son.
What was it like shooting that final scene with Charlie?
Extremely emotional. The scene where we’re in the living room, before we go out to the garden, was written to be very conversational. Gemma’s not surprised by her son being there. She’s in a very reminiscent and relieved place that the secret is out. It was written not to have a lot of histrionics, which made it even more intimate. It almost makes me cry talking about it.
It was very sweet — those last moments before Charlie and I walked out to the garden, we were just crying and hugging each other, and then we’d roll.
And I’d walk and he’d follow me. Then we’d do it again. It wasn’t only Jax and Gemma’s farewell, it was Katey and Charlie’s farewell after working together for seven years.
Was Gemma’s fate sealed as soon as she killed Tara?
No. She did not premeditatedly kill Tara. She thought she would take Juice’s suggestion of pinning it on the Chinese, and Jax would be satisfied. In her mind, she was okay with that. She thought, I need to stick around for my grandkids, and I can hold this secret. This is a woman who was involved in the death of her son’s father, and she never told him that, so she could hold a secret. But she didn’t expect at all the carnage that followed. By the time Bobby [Mark Boone Junior] died, I was saying to Kurt, “Why doesn’t she just put a bullet in her head?”
In a way, she does. Was she making it easier on Jax by not facing him when he shot her?
It’s part of her mothering and loving him that she feels he needs to kill whoever killed Tara. She feels like she’s doing him that favor. It’s that, combined with the fact that she’s too afraid to do it herself. She needs him to help her do that, and to do it for himself.
Before Gemma goes to her childhood home, she meets a trucker played by Michael Chiklis, who’d worked with you and Kurt on The Shield. What was the story behind his casting?
He was the last Shield cast member who had not been on the show. That was Kurt’s call, and I thought it was a brilliant choice. Michael was terrific.
Were you surprised you got a chance to do another scene with Hal Holbrook, as Gemma’s Alzheimer’s-afflicted father?
I was thrilled to work with Hal Holbrook again. There’s nobody like him. It all fit into her arc — she says good-bye to [her grandson] Abel, she says good-bye to her dad. Hal is so beautiful to be around.
How has it been working with Kurt for all these years? Do you bring your work home?
We have separate jobs in the same world. When we get home, he’ll share different parts of the job — what’s going on with the production and writing. And I’ll talk about acting. It’s kind of great, really. I find it really awesome to watch him do what he does, and I think he feels the same way.
Are you excited to work together again on The Bastard Executioner?
Yes! It’s kind of a departure. They are definitely different vehicles. And there’s a lot of mud. I know the story, and I’m sure it’s going to be really great.
Did you hang around the set for the final episode after Gemma was gone?
I did. Kurt was directing, and a bunch of us came back for the last shot. It’s been a remarkable run and a close-knit group of people, the crew included. So it was nice to have our final good-bye together.
What has it meant to you to create another TV icon after Married With Children’s Peg Bundy?
I never thought that would happen again. I was pretty blessed to have it happen once, and then to have it happen again in such a different way was amazing. My husband and the FX network both took a shot on me. They went for it. I had faith that I could do such a departure from what I was known for, but I needed other people to be onboard, too. I feel very grateful they believed in me. It opened up a whole new world for me. It gave me so much more opportunity.
What will you miss most about playing Gemma?
It was so fun to play a badass. Gemma put people in her place. She called it like it is. It’s hard to find women who are written that way. So I will definitely miss that. She was one of a kind.
By Bruce Fretts
Warning: Major spoilers ahead for this week’s Sons of Anarchy episode, “Red Rose.”
“I was glad I made it to 12,” Katey Sagal tells Vulture of seeing her character, biker-gang matriarch Gemma Teller Morrow, killed off in the penultimate installment of Sons of Anarchy’s 13-episode final season. “You never know with this show. I was fine with going when I did.” Even though her back was turned on son Jax (Charlie Hunnam) when he shot her, Gemma saw it coming, since she’d murdered his beloved wife, Tara, setting off a chain reaction of violence that claimed many more lives. Sagal talks about saying good-bye to Gemma and her plans to reteam with her husband, SoA creator Kurt Sutter, on his next FX series, the medieval revenge drama The Bastard Executioner.
When did you know that you were going to die in the next-to-last episode?
I knew I was going to come to my demise about three or four episodes into this season. I didn’t know exactly when it was going to happen or what the circumstances would be. But Kurt told Charlie and me at the same time that Gemma was going to die at the hands of her son.
What was it like shooting that final scene with Charlie?
Extremely emotional. The scene where we’re in the living room, before we go out to the garden, was written to be very conversational. Gemma’s not surprised by her son being there. She’s in a very reminiscent and relieved place that the secret is out. It was written not to have a lot of histrionics, which made it even more intimate. It almost makes me cry talking about it.
It was very sweet — those last moments before Charlie and I walked out to the garden, we were just crying and hugging each other, and then we’d roll.
And I’d walk and he’d follow me. Then we’d do it again. It wasn’t only Jax and Gemma’s farewell, it was Katey and Charlie’s farewell after working together for seven years.
Was Gemma’s fate sealed as soon as she killed Tara?
No. She did not premeditatedly kill Tara. She thought she would take Juice’s suggestion of pinning it on the Chinese, and Jax would be satisfied. In her mind, she was okay with that. She thought, I need to stick around for my grandkids, and I can hold this secret. This is a woman who was involved in the death of her son’s father, and she never told him that, so she could hold a secret. But she didn’t expect at all the carnage that followed. By the time Bobby [Mark Boone Junior] died, I was saying to Kurt, “Why doesn’t she just put a bullet in her head?”
In a way, she does. Was she making it easier on Jax by not facing him when he shot her?
It’s part of her mothering and loving him that she feels he needs to kill whoever killed Tara. She feels like she’s doing him that favor. It’s that, combined with the fact that she’s too afraid to do it herself. She needs him to help her do that, and to do it for himself.
Before Gemma goes to her childhood home, she meets a trucker played by Michael Chiklis, who’d worked with you and Kurt on The Shield. What was the story behind his casting?
He was the last Shield cast member who had not been on the show. That was Kurt’s call, and I thought it was a brilliant choice. Michael was terrific.
Were you surprised you got a chance to do another scene with Hal Holbrook, as Gemma’s Alzheimer’s-afflicted father?
I was thrilled to work with Hal Holbrook again. There’s nobody like him. It all fit into her arc — she says good-bye to [her grandson] Abel, she says good-bye to her dad. Hal is so beautiful to be around.
How has it been working with Kurt for all these years? Do you bring your work home?
We have separate jobs in the same world. When we get home, he’ll share different parts of the job — what’s going on with the production and writing. And I’ll talk about acting. It’s kind of great, really. I find it really awesome to watch him do what he does, and I think he feels the same way.
Are you excited to work together again on The Bastard Executioner?
Yes! It’s kind of a departure. They are definitely different vehicles. And there’s a lot of mud. I know the story, and I’m sure it’s going to be really great.
Did you hang around the set for the final episode after Gemma was gone?
I did. Kurt was directing, and a bunch of us came back for the last shot. It’s been a remarkable run and a close-knit group of people, the crew included. So it was nice to have our final good-bye together.
What has it meant to you to create another TV icon after Married With Children’s Peg Bundy?
I never thought that would happen again. I was pretty blessed to have it happen once, and then to have it happen again in such a different way was amazing. My husband and the FX network both took a shot on me. They went for it. I had faith that I could do such a departure from what I was known for, but I needed other people to be onboard, too. I feel very grateful they believed in me. It opened up a whole new world for me. It gave me so much more opportunity.
What will you miss most about playing Gemma?
It was so fun to play a badass. Gemma put people in her place. She called it like it is. It’s hard to find women who are written that way. So I will definitely miss that. She was one of a kind.
you went out good sweetheart...
The final episode is gonna be wack.
What's left? They killed everyone that matters.
Will Nero kill Jax for killing Jemma? Is Jemma really dead? Is Unser?
And why kill Juice? He was taking his punishment like a true g. he should have survived. Plus his death scene was wack.
Will Marks find out through into that Jax killed Pope and go on a rampage?
What type of climax will they possibly fit into next week's one hour episode when most of the storylines are pretty much dead?
What's left? They killed everyone that matters.
Will Nero kill Jax for killing Jemma? Is Jemma really dead? Is Unser?
And why kill Juice? He was taking his punishment like a true g. he should have survived. Plus his death scene was wack.
Will Marks find out through into that Jax killed Pope and go on a rampage?
What type of climax will they possibly fit into next week's one hour episode when most of the storylines are pretty much dead?
Beg to differ Opie is the most tragic son...
his wife was killed by tig and clay
his father was killed by clay
he died protecting jax
his kids are ophans being raised by a porn ho (lyla)
dudes whole family got wiped out over that club.
Yeah, how can i forget.
You're right. I forget how tragic that was.
That's the point. The sheriff made him go to an extreme over something that really wasn't a big deal...remember Clay basically told Juice that it was a bylaw that was from a different time, and that it should be something that was done away with. The Samcro we follow in SOA is not racist.
An Hour? Has any episode this whole season been an just an hour?
Jax Story about killing the prez and meeting mayhem, still open.
Irish gun trade to Mexicans, still open.
August's revenge, still open.
Jax murdered Gemma and uncer, the blow back still open.
Homeless lady's purpose, still open.
Killing RoboCop , Still open.
Chibs and The sheriff, still open.
Bruh its plenty of ways the last episode can play out.
^^^^
yup
you KNOW Jax's death or maybe NOT?????
will be crazy.
I got faith in Sutter he has seen all these classic series have questionable finales...
(And honestly I actually liked the Shield's entire final season)
The writer and director both said on Anarchy Afterword that Uncer was talking about Gemma when he said "This is all I got." So...
i don't agree with any of thatjax is a fucking Sociopath
that and he has nothing to lose now..knowing he's probably dead. he feels nothing now, numb
I agree with you..if I'm scared or angry my dick don't work..
the LAST thing on my mind is fucking...But Sex After Tragedy is a staple film and tv trope.
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since Sutter likes doing homages what if he ends the final episode like this
after Marks gets blown up in his car by Jax there a caption saying
after Marks gets blown up in his car by Jax there a caption saying
"Jackson 'Jax' Teller,(age whatever) turned himself in to Charming police after the incident. He is now serving a life sentence."
His dumb ass just had to make a book for release right after the show. He had to know that was a bad idea. So now the spoilers are out for the finale.....
Surprised they havent been posted here yet.His dumb ass just had to make a book for release right after the show. He had to know that was a bad idea. So now the spoilers are out for the finale.....
FAN APOLOGY
It has been brought to my attention that our SOA Collector's Edition Book has been sent out a week early by some distributors and book outlets. This book contains details about the final episode of the series. This, my friends is a storyteller's worst nightmare. I wanted this book to be a compliment to the show. It contains personal messages and photos from the cast, in-depth behind the scenes information and detailed breakdown of episodes. It's a smart, well-conceived book that I was very excited for the fans to have. AFTER the motherfucking finale. There are a thousand fucking people I can blame. And I assure you, by the time I am done, my fucking basket will be filled with heads of incompetent cunts. But as far as the fans go, the burden is on me. I fucked up. It was my idea for the book, so ultimately, I am to blame. So if you received a book, I apologize. I ask that you not share your wrath or pain or opinion in social media so as to not spoil the experience of others. There is no excuse for utter ineptitude. It pains me that this will be the parting memory of some fans. I hope you all tune in for the finale. It plays much better than it reads.
Sincerely
ks
His dumb ass just had to make a book for release right after the show. He had to know that was a bad idea. So now the spoilers are out for the finale.....
‘Sons of Anarchy’ Finale Spoilers Leak: Boss Kurt Sutter Apologizes to Fans
The series finale of FX’s “Sons of Anarchy” is less than a week away, but some fans have already learned how the show ends after copies of the companion book, “Sons of Anarchy: The Official Collector’s Edition,” were shipped early to consumers and retailers.
The book was scheduled to be available for purchase the day after the finale (which airs Tuesday, Dec. 9 on FX), since it contains “personal messages and photos from the cast, in-depth behind the scenes information and detailed breakdown of episodes,” according to creator Kurt Sutter.
Sutter took to Twitter to vent his frustration over the leak and apologize to fans who might have been inadvertently spoiled, posting a typically expletive-laden missive on Twitlonger:
A spokesperson for Time Home Entertainment Inc., the book’s publisher, told Variety, “As the publisher, we had a very strict embargo in place for the on-sale date of Wednesday, December 10, 2014. We are aggressively investigating the circumstances that led to the unauthorized and premature distribution of the book.”
The “Sons of Anarchy” series finale airs Tues., Dec. 9 at 10 p.m. on FX.
ok and there goes my cue to stay the fuck away from this thread until next week,
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