Im thinking he gives him his cut back, to die in.
Or maybe Juice made up a story that makes him look good. Next week cant come quick enough now!!!!!
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Im thinking he gives him his cut back, to die in.
Or maybe Juice made up a story that makes him look good. Next week cant come quick enough now!!!!!
Then he told
Because Juice has been acting like a bitch since the shows start
Especially after he just went to the Mayans
Gemma was going to kill him, there nothing bitch about it.
And even if it was its not like juice is a stranger to bitch shit.
Gemma
Unser is about to fuck Jax whole shit up
after all this time that mofo still simps for her..
Make no mistake, the Aryans, August Marks, the Niners, the Mayans, cops, etc. They're all red herrings and devices to garnish the real plot of the season - the revelation of Tara being killed by Gemma.
Now, I don't think Juice talks. He's not holding an Ace, or rather he doesn't believe he has an Ace. He's just fucked up. Gemma tried to kill him and he went to the Mayans to trade secrets to get away, not to blow Gemma's spot.
The look on Nero's face was very telling when he held Gemma. Juice is in trouble with the club for revealing to Nero he killed the woman - revealing that Jax lied to him.
I think Nero steps in to save Juice somehow. For all that Nero has dealt with due to Jax's actions - Jax owes him. That could be a favor he calls in. Juice can get back in the clubs good graces by putting in HEAVY work.
Gemma ultimately confesses due to the guilt. Jax kills his own mother.
That's what I think will happen. It's too much going on for it to simply come down to Juice telling Jax about Gemma.
Now, I don't think Juice talks. He's not holding an Ace, or rather he doesn't believe he has an Ace. He's just fucked up. Gemma tried to kill him and he went to the Mayans to trade secrets to get away, not to blow Gemma's spot.
The look on Nero's face was very telling when he held Gemma. Juice is in trouble with the club for revealing to Nero he killed the woman - revealing that Jax lied to him.
I think Nero steps in to save Juice somehow. For all that Nero has dealt with due to Jax's actions - Jax owes him. That could be a favor he calls in. Juice can get back in the clubs good graces by putting in HEAVY work.
Gemma ultimately confesses due to the guilt. Jax kills his own mother.
That's what I think will happen. It's too much going on for it to simply come down to Juice telling Jax about Gemma.
Make no mistake, the Aryans, August Marks, the Niners, the Mayans, cops, etc. They're all red herrings and devices to garnish the real plot of the season - the revelation of Tara being killed by Gemma.
Now, I don't think Juice talks. He's not holding an Ace, or rather he doesn't believe he has an Ace. He's just fucked up. Gemma tried to kill him and he went to the Mayans to trade secrets to get away, not to blow Gemma's spot.
The look on Nero's face was very telling when he held Gemma. Juice is in trouble with the club for revealing to Nero he killed the woman - revealing that Jax lied to him.
I think Nero steps in to save Juice somehow. For all that Nero has dealt with due to Jax's actions - Jax owes him. That could be a favor he calls in. Juice can get back in the clubs good graces by putting in HEAVY work.
Gemma ultimately confesses due to the guilt. Jax kills his own mother.
That's what I think will happen. It's too much going on for it to simply come down to Juice telling Jax about Gemma.
Now, I don't think Juice talks. He's not holding an Ace, or rather he doesn't believe he has an Ace. He's just fucked up. Gemma tried to kill him and he went to the Mayans to trade secrets to get away, not to blow Gemma's spot.
The look on Nero's face was very telling when he held Gemma. Juice is in trouble with the club for revealing to Nero he killed the woman - revealing that Jax lied to him.
I think Nero steps in to save Juice somehow. For all that Nero has dealt with due to Jax's actions - Jax owes him. That could be a favor he calls in. Juice can get back in the clubs good graces by putting in HEAVY work.
Gemma ultimately confesses due to the guilt. Jax kills his own mother.
That's what I think will happen. It's too much going on for it to simply come down to Juice telling Jax about Gemma.
aint no bitch move snitching on people who want to kill you
He gives him back to die as a Son, we have all seen that once you are on Samcro death row there is no call from the governor to save your ass. He did what he did so they are going to give him a "respectful" death. They showed that scene in the preview to throw people off. Also that part with Uncer saying you aren't going to kill her are you, I will bet anything that its not about Gemma, so again they throw in that dialogue then show Juice getting his coat back to fool us
Or maybe Jax doesn't kill him. Maybe he figures he can use Juice.
Who knows. Just when you think shit is going one way, it veers off.
They went from an epic showdown between Juice and Gemma to her walking down the road.
Uncer talking about the female cop probably
so the media was hyping up lea michele's appearance like she was going to play a big part in the plot..turns out it was just a throwaway guest starring role
Not only did juice kill another son he was snitching to the cops, and his worst crime of all his father is black. No way he is living
i dont think the black father is a big deal now because there about to let the bald black guy become a member.thats just what im taking from the episode cause remember he was talking to the guys saying he dont live in the 50's talking about being rasit.
The east siders.
The crew one9 was saying August was going to use to kill the sons.
And Dude was just fucking around about them caring if Juice father was black or not. Even Chibs said he didnt care after Juice tried to kill himself.
so the media was hyping up lea michele's appearance like she was going to play a big part in the plot..turns out it was just a throwaway guest starring role
they were?i don't even know who she is..
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i don't even know who she is..
I guess he had to have been a member of the Glee fan club to hear that shit
so the media was hyping up lea michele's appearance like she was going to play a big part in the plot..turns out it was just a throwaway guest starring role
Who?
That lil goofy ass waitress was somebody important or sumn?
I’m just out here working hard every single day, just trying to be the best poster I can be....
And I forgot To mention Chibs Wife is black making his daughter Half black.
she look likes someone who would have fat pussy lips that grip. she exposed via the fappening yet?
i think she was but they were just nip slips
'Sons of Anarchy': Emilio Rivera talks Alvarez's big play
Spoiler alert: In the Oct. 14 episode of Sons of Anarchy, “Smoke ‘Em If You Got ‘Em,” Alvarez (Emilio Rivera) declines Juice’s offer of intel on SAMCRO in exchange for getting him into Mexico. Instead, Alvarez strikes a deal with Jax (Charlie Hunnam) to hand Juice over…in exchange for inheriting the Irish gun trade once they take down August Marks and splitting Lin’s territory with the Niners (which will make up for the Mayans letting the Aryan Brotherhood distribute heroin in Stockton). Rivera, who’s recurred on the show since the pilot, talked to EW about Alvarez’s play, how he’ll remember the show, and that time he promised Emilio Jr. he’d never let someone kill him as a peace offering.
W: What was your reaction when you read that Alvarez would team up with Jax to take down Marks? As a fan, it’s exciting to see him really enter the fray. But it’s also really dangerous.
Rivera: Of course it is. I’m glad that we’re teaming up because Marks has just been a thorn. “Black,” like the characters talk, they’ve always done me wrong. In season 1, they ambushed us and tried to kill all of us—that didn’t happen, but I still got shot in the process.
The series began with the Mayans torching SAMCRO’s warehouse and stealing guns meant for the Niners. It’s coming full circle in a way.
In the beginning, it all started out with the Sons and Mayans, and you had to incorporate other gangs and MCs as well to make it more interesting for seven seasons. I was surprised by everything that happened and always proud to be a part of it….Somebody’s always double-crossing somebody. If you look at my character, he’s been a straight shooter from the beginning, and he always gets screwed, man. So I think there’s time for me to go crazy now, you know, and see what happens. I’m tired of it, man. (Laughs)
How do you view Marcus’ mindset at the moment?
Jax is a strong president with a strong following, as am I, so it’s good when you have those powers together—just as long as something doesn’t go wrong. Because if it goes wrong, it’s gonna be ugly wrong, you know what I mean? Marks, of course, you’ve seen what he’s done over the years. You need these two strong characters to come together to take him down. Let’s see if ultimately we do, because otherwise, we all lose, and Charming will be run by somebody else.
Fans do appreciate Alvarez being levelheaded. Even in that scene with Nero at Diosa in this episode, he was calm when he was essentially threatening him. I love Alvarez, but I was like, if he hurts Nero, I will turn on him.
Wow.
I know.
Nero has turned out to be one of my favorite characters now because he was just a guy from the hood who did good for himself, he was trying to get away, and then Gemma brought him back in. He’s following his heart, but his heart is taking him down the wrong track—it’s taking him back to where he came from, and that’s not good. I feel for him. In that one episode, he told Gemma, “Come on, baby, let’s go,” and she said, “I can’t,” and you can see in his eyes it just broke his heart. He’s getting up there in age, like all of us are, and he just wants to settle down on a ranch.
I forget: Was this the first time we see Alvarez’s “office”?
Actually, no. It’s a different place now, but it was the same set-up as in the episode before my son was killed in season 1. I was sitting down doing some paperwork with my boots up and he’s working on a bike in the scene. They didn’t show it as much as they do now.
Talking with episode director Guy Ferland, he said he lit the scene when Juice comes in and asks Marcus for help with a light from above so that the audience would feel the weight of the club on Juice, like it was an interrogation. Did you feel that in the moment?
I didn’t realize that until I saw photos and the promo. (Laughs) It looks kinda angelic, like he’s gonna help him. But then it’s also demonic, too. It can go either way: He’s either a devil or an angel. I remember that day, [Ferland] goes, “There’s something cool right here. Mark him where he’s at. I want this lighting.” I didn’t know what the hell he was talking about. I was just doing my job, you know. Now that I see it, it was pretty smart.
And the scene with Alvarez and Jax making their deal—that’s just the two of you guys sitting there. How did you and Charlie keep that interesting?
Charlie brings so much, I just got to react towards him. I was wondering how that was going to turn out because it was a long scene—and like you said, two men sitting down—but the way we’re playing off each other, I felt pretty good about it. I was amazed how fast we shot it. He’s always prepared, so I gotta be prepared. It’s always fun working with Charlie because we’re gonna knock it out of the park every single time. He’s that good that he makes you better.
When you look back over your run on the show, do you have a favorite scene?
My favorite scene is when I had my son killed in my arms. If you remember, Happy stabbed him in the back. It was so emotional for me to do that. I have a son the same age, so when I did that scene I called my son, and I said, “I’m gonna do something today, man, that would never happen.” He’s like, “Dad, I know that.” (Laughs) But it got me so bad. It’s like, wow, I’m killing my son. Before we did that, Kurt came up to me and said, “Listen, we wrote this scene. If you do not want to do it, we understand, we can write it a different way.” I said, “You know what, I’ve never seen it done. Let’s roll with it.” And I got a lot of hate, of course it’s hate of the character: “How can he do this? It’s not us. We don’t do this kind of thing.” Which is kinda fun. It was such an emotional day that day. I really broke down really hard on that scene, and it was all cut out. When I saw Kurt, I said, “Kurt, I did some stuff there. What happened?” He goes, “It’s too early in the season.
We can’t show that side of Alvarez.” Now over the years, I understand what Kurt was writing about. If I were to start crying like a little baby like I did that day, you wouldn’t have respect for Alvarez. (Laughs) He’d just be a big cry baby. I understand what he’s writing now.
What’s the lasting memory you’ll take away from your experience working on Sons?
Seven years with these guys, what stands out the most is the things that people will never see. When we have table reads and a character is dying and they give their last speech, or when Opie died, and Charlie spoke at the table, it was so heart-wrenching. We get to see you before you die. Stuff like that, it’s forever in my brain. Everybody’s crying. There’s tissues going around the table before we start filming and it’s just everybody saying their last goodbyes. That stuff I’ll take with me the rest of my life—that stuff that’s just very private that we saw as a cast and as a crew. It’s beautiful, man. And I want to say thank you to all the people who have supported me.
I’ve gotten so much mail, and on the streets, everywhere I go, they’ve given Alvarez so much love. I’m gonna really miss playing that guy. Much love back to everybody, because I really appreciate it.
Spoiler alert: In the Oct. 14 episode of Sons of Anarchy, “Smoke ‘Em If You Got ‘Em,” Alvarez (Emilio Rivera) declines Juice’s offer of intel on SAMCRO in exchange for getting him into Mexico. Instead, Alvarez strikes a deal with Jax (Charlie Hunnam) to hand Juice over…in exchange for inheriting the Irish gun trade once they take down August Marks and splitting Lin’s territory with the Niners (which will make up for the Mayans letting the Aryan Brotherhood distribute heroin in Stockton). Rivera, who’s recurred on the show since the pilot, talked to EW about Alvarez’s play, how he’ll remember the show, and that time he promised Emilio Jr. he’d never let someone kill him as a peace offering.
W: What was your reaction when you read that Alvarez would team up with Jax to take down Marks? As a fan, it’s exciting to see him really enter the fray. But it’s also really dangerous.
Rivera: Of course it is. I’m glad that we’re teaming up because Marks has just been a thorn. “Black,” like the characters talk, they’ve always done me wrong. In season 1, they ambushed us and tried to kill all of us—that didn’t happen, but I still got shot in the process.
The series began with the Mayans torching SAMCRO’s warehouse and stealing guns meant for the Niners. It’s coming full circle in a way.
In the beginning, it all started out with the Sons and Mayans, and you had to incorporate other gangs and MCs as well to make it more interesting for seven seasons. I was surprised by everything that happened and always proud to be a part of it….Somebody’s always double-crossing somebody. If you look at my character, he’s been a straight shooter from the beginning, and he always gets screwed, man. So I think there’s time for me to go crazy now, you know, and see what happens. I’m tired of it, man. (Laughs)
How do you view Marcus’ mindset at the moment?
Jax is a strong president with a strong following, as am I, so it’s good when you have those powers together—just as long as something doesn’t go wrong. Because if it goes wrong, it’s gonna be ugly wrong, you know what I mean? Marks, of course, you’ve seen what he’s done over the years. You need these two strong characters to come together to take him down. Let’s see if ultimately we do, because otherwise, we all lose, and Charming will be run by somebody else.
Fans do appreciate Alvarez being levelheaded. Even in that scene with Nero at Diosa in this episode, he was calm when he was essentially threatening him. I love Alvarez, but I was like, if he hurts Nero, I will turn on him.
Wow.
I know.
Nero has turned out to be one of my favorite characters now because he was just a guy from the hood who did good for himself, he was trying to get away, and then Gemma brought him back in. He’s following his heart, but his heart is taking him down the wrong track—it’s taking him back to where he came from, and that’s not good. I feel for him. In that one episode, he told Gemma, “Come on, baby, let’s go,” and she said, “I can’t,” and you can see in his eyes it just broke his heart. He’s getting up there in age, like all of us are, and he just wants to settle down on a ranch.
I forget: Was this the first time we see Alvarez’s “office”?
Actually, no. It’s a different place now, but it was the same set-up as in the episode before my son was killed in season 1. I was sitting down doing some paperwork with my boots up and he’s working on a bike in the scene. They didn’t show it as much as they do now.
Talking with episode director Guy Ferland, he said he lit the scene when Juice comes in and asks Marcus for help with a light from above so that the audience would feel the weight of the club on Juice, like it was an interrogation. Did you feel that in the moment?
I didn’t realize that until I saw photos and the promo. (Laughs) It looks kinda angelic, like he’s gonna help him. But then it’s also demonic, too. It can go either way: He’s either a devil or an angel. I remember that day, [Ferland] goes, “There’s something cool right here. Mark him where he’s at. I want this lighting.” I didn’t know what the hell he was talking about. I was just doing my job, you know. Now that I see it, it was pretty smart.
And the scene with Alvarez and Jax making their deal—that’s just the two of you guys sitting there. How did you and Charlie keep that interesting?
Charlie brings so much, I just got to react towards him. I was wondering how that was going to turn out because it was a long scene—and like you said, two men sitting down—but the way we’re playing off each other, I felt pretty good about it. I was amazed how fast we shot it. He’s always prepared, so I gotta be prepared. It’s always fun working with Charlie because we’re gonna knock it out of the park every single time. He’s that good that he makes you better.
When you look back over your run on the show, do you have a favorite scene?
My favorite scene is when I had my son killed in my arms. If you remember, Happy stabbed him in the back. It was so emotional for me to do that. I have a son the same age, so when I did that scene I called my son, and I said, “I’m gonna do something today, man, that would never happen.” He’s like, “Dad, I know that.” (Laughs) But it got me so bad. It’s like, wow, I’m killing my son. Before we did that, Kurt came up to me and said, “Listen, we wrote this scene. If you do not want to do it, we understand, we can write it a different way.” I said, “You know what, I’ve never seen it done. Let’s roll with it.” And I got a lot of hate, of course it’s hate of the character: “How can he do this? It’s not us. We don’t do this kind of thing.” Which is kinda fun. It was such an emotional day that day. I really broke down really hard on that scene, and it was all cut out. When I saw Kurt, I said, “Kurt, I did some stuff there. What happened?” He goes, “It’s too early in the season.
We can’t show that side of Alvarez.” Now over the years, I understand what Kurt was writing about. If I were to start crying like a little baby like I did that day, you wouldn’t have respect for Alvarez. (Laughs) He’d just be a big cry baby. I understand what he’s writing now.
What’s the lasting memory you’ll take away from your experience working on Sons?
Seven years with these guys, what stands out the most is the things that people will never see. When we have table reads and a character is dying and they give their last speech, or when Opie died, and Charlie spoke at the table, it was so heart-wrenching. We get to see you before you die. Stuff like that, it’s forever in my brain. Everybody’s crying. There’s tissues going around the table before we start filming and it’s just everybody saying their last goodbyes. That stuff I’ll take with me the rest of my life—that stuff that’s just very private that we saw as a cast and as a crew. It’s beautiful, man. And I want to say thank you to all the people who have supported me.
I’ve gotten so much mail, and on the streets, everywhere I go, they’ve given Alvarez so much love. I’m gonna really miss playing that guy. Much love back to everybody, because I really appreciate it.
We haven't seen the club patch over a weakened MC since the first season. I guess we're supposed to be grateful theyre black huh?
It shows jax isn't a real racist even tho he manipulates blacks and speaks of them in the most sarcastic way more often than not in private.
And gemma doesn't hesitate to show disdain for black people herself.
Also bringing in a black MC pretty much makes the basis of juice's portrayal pointless and ridiculous. He was sent down this road ONLY because the last sheriff was black mailing him about being black in a club that doesn't allow blacks on pain of death or getting kicked out.. thats IT thats what caused juices problems initially...then under that weight jax asked him to kill someone who didn't really deserve it. And the guilt and issues of both those things weighed on him so heavily he broke. So to NOW bring in a black members is just WTF???
Also its good that the show is in its final season becuz that move by itself has made it officially JUMP THE SHARK..
Samcro is now the United Benetton of Colors gang thats such a cliche in movies and tv shows.
It shows jax isn't a real racist even tho he manipulates blacks and speaks of them in the most sarcastic way more often than not in private.
And gemma doesn't hesitate to show disdain for black people herself.
Also bringing in a black MC pretty much makes the basis of juice's portrayal pointless and ridiculous. He was sent down this road ONLY because the last sheriff was black mailing him about being black in a club that doesn't allow blacks on pain of death or getting kicked out.. thats IT thats what caused juices problems initially...then under that weight jax asked him to kill someone who didn't really deserve it. And the guilt and issues of both those things weighed on him so heavily he broke. So to NOW bring in a black members is just WTF???
Also its good that the show is in its final season becuz that move by itself has made it officially JUMP THE SHARK..
Samcro is now the United Benetton of Colors gang thats such a cliche in movies and tv shows.
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We haven't seen the club patch over a weakened MC since the first season. I guess we're supposed to be grateful theyre black huh?
It shows jax isn't a real racist even tho he manipulates blacks and speaks of them in the most sarcastic way more often than not in private.
Jax never has been Raciest. He only offered the Patch cuz Grim is weak right now, and he needs as many bodies as he can for the war. He makes Jokes but the only two Sons ever to used the word nIgga was Clay and Tig. And Tig had just watch Pope murder his child.
And gemma doesn't hesitate to show disdain for black people herself.
You may have a point. Gemma one of those white people who get raciest when they mad at you.
Also bringing in a black MC pretty much makes the basis of juice's portrayal pointless and ridiculous. He was sent down this road ONLY because the last sheriff was black mailing him about being black in a club that doesn't allow blacks on pain of death or getting kicked out.. thats IT thats what caused juices problems initially...then under that weight jax asked him to kill someone who didn't really deserve it. And the guilt and issues of both those things weighed on him so heavily he broke. So to NOW bring in a black members is just WTF???
Juice story was deeper than that. He got worried he would get kicked out, yes, then he stole cocaine, then he killed another member, then he tried to kill himself. Being black was just on the list of shit that would have gotten juice killed.
Also its good that the show is in its final season becuz that move by itself has made it officially JUMP THE SHARK..
And By the way the Raciest Chibs wife:
When it comes to race and the SONS it tends to get a bit confusing at times. They say racist things, but hate the Aryans and call them racist. SAMCRO strikes me as white kats who are cool with you as long as its beneficial to them and you are an allie.
It would have been nice to know what the basis for the no blacks allowed in the club stance was. They had an Asian guy and hispanics in the club and rode and did business with the Reapers.
Juice has always been weak. Instead of finding out what the club may/may not have done if they found out they had a 1/2 black member, he just goes off and does a bunch of dumb shit to hurt the one family he claims he loved.
It would have been nice to know what the basis for the no blacks allowed in the club stance was. They had an Asian guy and hispanics in the club and rode and did business with the Reapers.
Juice has always been weak. Instead of finding out what the club may/may not have done if they found out they had a 1/2 black member, he just goes off and does a bunch of dumb shit to hurt the one family he claims he loved.
I think a lot of this history of the club stuff Sutter will cover in the prequel spin off he talked about doing.
When that happens who knows. But at any rate it will be very interesting to see the origins of the club how they all got together and the type of shit they were doing then
I’m just out here working hard every single day, just trying to be the best poster I can be....
When that happens who knows. But at any rate it will be very interesting to see the origins of the club how they all got together and the type of shit they were doing then
I’m just out here working hard every single day, just trying to be the best poster I can be....
They've never been anti anyone based on race or ethnicity. The Grim Bastards have been their allies since day 1 and the one group that has never had beef with the sons.
Now, the whol racist comments shit is Sutter adding in the fact that they're a 1% biker gang. That lifestyle is much harsher with words and actions. They've had comments tossed back at them to illustrate that. Notice that almost every crew is racially/ethnically exclusive. The Sons have actually had the most ethnic diversity of any single group. Also remember how they didn't like how racist the Irish were.
^^^ Exactly.
The Sons are just looking out for them, it doesn't matter what color you are long as you benefit them.
I didnt want to agree with yall about Juice being weak, but he did let Roosevelt scare him with the black father thing, which set off the chain of events that lead him to where he is at now.
Even he said last episode "Because Im a coward."
Juice aint tell Nero what happened cause that would have been the first thing Nero said when he saw Gemma if he even went back to her at all. Shit Nero might kill Gemma if he finds out, alot of people died including women cause of this lie.
Gemma may be stupid and tell nero.
Juice will voluntarily martyr himself for the club and Jax will let him.
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Juice story was deeper than that. He got worried he would get kicked out, yes, then he stole cocaine, then he killed another member, then he tried to kill himself. Being black was just on the list of shit that would have gotten juice killed.
And By the way the Raciest Chibs wife:
Juice wasn't worried he was SCARED AS SHIT and he stole the cocaine because he had to get evidence against the club based on being black mailed by the sheriff for being black..literally everything he did traces back to that point homie...
And chibs marrying a black woman?? so what..you know the very FIRST absentee fathers in black families were white men during slavery times..irish, german, british...
The grim bastards have a USE that doesn't make them friends...and allies are based on COMMON INTERESTS..not fuzzy love and brotherhood.
I can almost guarantee you that tuesdays episode produced groans and sighs of bullshit for the REAL 1%ers who watch the show like hell angels, pagans and mongols...
why are you telling us this as if the whole exchange between them in that closet wasn't on film? All the way up to the point of nero being let go. lol
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