Something Black Barber shops need

That still doesn't make it a FEE.

What you're explaining is how they can offer you all these features in holding your money without charging a fee, but they're not charging you to use your money.

No they are charging you to use their facilities and they are taking that money from the interest they earn on the money you loaned them in the form of your deposit...hence you getting what you think is free banking
 
No they are charging you to use their facilities and they are taking that money from the interest they earn on the money you loaned them in the form of your deposit...hence you getting what you think is free banking

Please explain to us the negative impact of using your debt card (if you have money in your account).
 
Please explain to us the negative impact of using your debt card (if you have money in your account).

I was never arguing the negative impact of using the debit card.
My two points were,
1)I wouldn't use it in a barbers, 'cos I'm not sure I can trust some of the numerous characters that use them and
2)that we don't have free banking even if there is no charge levied against your account labelled fee, the bank has taken that money from you via the interest they earned on your deposit..
 
I was never arguing the negative impact of using the debit card.
My two points were,
1)I wouldn't use it in a barbers, 'cos I'm not sure I can trust some of the numerous characters that use them and
2)that we don't have free banking even if there is no charge levied against your account labelled fee, the bank has taken that money from you via the interest they earned on your deposit..

And my point was that people were arguing semantics. Calling the use if a "debit card" a loan is stupid as shit. The only time I've heard phrase used that way is when you speak about "credit cards". Credit cards are loans based on the fact that you pay interest back to the lender per transaction. Some banks charge transaction fees ONLY after you do a certain amount of transactions.

You guys are using the word "loan" recklessly.
 
And my point was that people were arguing semantics. Calling the use if a "debit card" a loan is stupid as shit. The only time I've heard phrase used that way is when you speak about "credit cards". Credit cards are loans based on the fact that you pay interest back to the lender per transaction. Some banks charge transaction fees ONLY after you do a certain amount of transactions.

You guys are using the word "loan" recklessly.

I don't recall ever saying that my friend.
Please refer me to the quote!!!
 
you dudes dont have petty cash laying around? everyone excuse is i dont carry cash blah blah blah but i know at any given time i have at least 20-30 bucks stashed in my car and i have a box at home with money in it for those instances where i want to get a pizza or something delivered.


I just ordered Domino's for the family online with my credit card....This is 2010 folks need to stay current. :yes:
 
And my point was that people were arguing semantics. Calling the use if a "debit card" a loan is stupid as shit. The only time I've heard phrase used that way is when you speak about "credit cards". Credit cards are loans based on the fact that you pay interest back to the lender per transaction. Some banks charge transaction fees ONLY after you do a certain amount of transactions.

You guys are using the word "loan" recklessly.

Are you intentionally trying to be dense.

A debit card payment is a bank loan.

How many different ways does it need to be explained.

Banks are in the business of lending. That is what they do. That is how they stay in business.

Plastic is not cash. Plastic is a convenient way of getting a bank loan.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?
 
You don't know how banking works so let me teach you.

Whenever you give someone your property, without receiving anything of value in return, it is either a loan or charity.

For charity, you get to stroke your ego.
For a loan, you get a promise to repay.

Since banks are not a charity, it is a LOAN!

1st off, you're wrong.

If I'm stopping at my girls house after work, and I leave my shoes there when I change. I'm not loaning her my shoes. She's storing them for me until I need them. Just like the bank.

Whether you want to call it a fee, interest, penalty, or whatever, when you use a debit card, you are getting a loan which has a cost to it.

You're wrong, I don't lose any money that I deposit.
I don't pay any fees.
I don't pay any interest.
I don't pay any penalties for using my money.


Once you make a deposit at the bank, it is no longer your property. It is the property of the bank.

When you use a debit card, you are using the property of the bank to make a payment.

It is a loan by the bank to offset the loan you made to the bank.

From the time the bank makes the loan to the time the merchant receives payment, the interest accrued goes to the bank, which pays for the loan made to you.

How many times do I have to say this?

A debit card is a loan from the bank. It is different from a credit card loan, but it is still a loan.

I swear, you people have this bank credit and don't have a DAMN clue how it works or how to use it. Yeah, that's really going to lead to financial success.

Getting a bank loan to get your haircut... SHEESH!


You have no clue my man. BTW, you STILL haven't answered my question.

If that's the case, then why doesn't every debit transaction affect my credit? :hmm:
 
Are you intentionally trying to be dense.

A debit card payment is a bank loan.

How many different ways does it need to be explained.

Banks are in the business of lending. That is what they do. That is how they stay in business.

Plastic is not cash. Plastic is a convenient way of getting a bank loan.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?

How do they make money on the transactions? If there is no interest charged to you per transaction it isn't a loan.
 
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No they dont,the barbers and the people in the majority of the times are crooks,looking to come up on something or just down right hoodlums.You want me to swipe my card around a bunch of cats who talk about the latest scemes,who went to jail and who's on their way?fuck noooo.

Ill pay cash and besides its to much going on as it is to just be swiping cards and shit.

They pay a fee to use credit cards. They could simply have an ATM installed.

Plus barbershops are cash business and most don't claim ALL the income.

It also probably won't work because you have the owner of the shop and most of the other barbers don't actually work for him. They rent a chair which makes them more or less independent contractors. A card machine would mean the money goes to the shop and they would have to rely on the barber to keep their money straight

The shops I get the tighest cuts have the most gutter negros in there cutting. Technology above a cell phone or game system ain't on their radar. Plus, it's a cash business for a reason.

Rick Ross........:lol:

Another thing,the shop owner dont have time to be dealing with no paperwork,calling banks,charge backs and all of that silly shit that goes along with swipping a card.

Besides he would have to deal with cats cards being denied,a cat asking for change back because he over paid and the killer is a customer using a stolen card for a crisp edge up.That would just fuck up the flow of even wanted to own a shop.

You can put an ATM in there but whats the chances of someone ripping that motherfucker off the wall and dragging the machine down the block?very high...

For merchants, Cash > Credit, cuz they don't have to pay fees to the cc companies. The places that do except credit, only do so because they don't want risk losing customers to there competitors.

Barbers are amongst one of the few businesses left where most people expect to have to pay cash and will do so. However, there's a limit to what most people will spend with cash. Since most keep raising their prices coupled with the fact that many cheap fast food places now take cards means that they're going to have to start taking cards.

One potential issue is that many barbers rent their chair, so a centralized system for the shop may prove cumbersome. However, thanks to technology, there are systems being developed where people would be able to except cards on their smartphones, thus alleviating this issue.

This could prove especially beneficial if you're the only barber in the shop who takes cards. :yes:

I hear all the arguments about why they don't/won't/shouldn't have credit card machines in the barber shop, but how are barbershops any different than beauty parlors??? Any one I've been to in the last 5 years has accepted credit cards, and I can't vouch for the "trustworthiness" of most of the females & males I've seen working in them.
 
you dudes dont have petty cash laying around? everyone excuse is i dont carry cash blah blah blah but i know at any given time i have at least 20-30 bucks stashed in my car and i have a box at home with money in it for those instances where i want to get a pizza or something delivered.

yeah thats true. but i tend to forget to replenish that shit once i spend it, and then i'm all mad at the situation again.
 
How do they make money on the transactions? If there is no interest charged to you per transaction it isn't a loan.

I've explained this twice, in 2 different posts, in this very thread how it works.

If it's too hard to understand, just accept you are borrowing from a bank when you use a payment card (debit/credit).
 
I've explained this twice, in 2 different posts, in this very thread how it works.

If it's too hard to understand, just accept you are borrowing from a bank when you use a payment card (debit/credit).

Since when have you been able to make a substantial purchase on a debit card with no money in your account? Never.

It's not a loan from the bank plain and simple. Credit cards are loans. You are borrowing money (you don't have) in order to make a purchase. That's a loan. All that other bullshit you're saying is ridiculous.
 
Since when have you been able to make a substantial purchase on a debit card with no money in your account? Never.

It's not a loan from the bank plain and simple. Credit cards are loans. You are borrowing money (you don't have) in order to make a purchase. That's a loan. All that other bullshit you're saying is ridiculous.

So, I guess you get to decide, all by your lonesome, how banking, credit, and payment cards work.

Well, at least I tried.
 
So, I guess you get to decide, all by your lonesome, how banking, credit, and payment cards work.

Well, at least I tried.

Yes. Because I'm right and you're wrong. pull up on the internet some where that says "debit cards are loans". I'll be waiting.
 
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Drayonis some of us are members of Credit Unions where we don't pay fees. My last 2 companies I work for have our own Credit Unions owned by the company. If you swipe your card so many times, use direct deposit they wave all fees.
 
I hear all the arguments about why they don't/won't/shouldn't have credit card machines in the barber shop, but how are barbershops any different than beauty parlors??? Any one I've been to in the last 5 years has accepted credit cards, and I can't vouch for the "trustworthiness" of most of the females & males I've seen working in them.

Cost of services at a beauty parlor >>> Cost of services at a barbershop.

The price of cuts is still on the edge of that petty cash region, once it leaves that region credit cards will become much more prevalent.
 
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