*Solo A Star Wars Story Spoiler Discussion*
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Han gave up paying off his debts, kept a bounty on his head, got captured by the empire, tortured, and encased in carbonite when he could have left Leia on Hoth.
Tell me what Han did for pussy in this movie that compares...
He wasn’t pussy whipped in either movie, but on BGOL, you can take risks for revenge, giggles, no reason at all and it’s fine, but doing something for a woman you care about is the shit they won’t stand.
Hell, John Wick killed an entire town over a dog and BGOL considers it the greatest movie of all time. If he did it for a woman, he would have been pussy whipped and movie was trash.
he didn't come back for Leia...
why did he go ride or die with Woody even after Woddy gave him an out?
why did he decide to rob Crimson Dawn for Willow?
"you're really the good guy"
Han and Chewy's problem is they are unconditionally loyal...
Lando is only loyal conditionally
Han was running that entire movie. Leia happened to be there because her route of escape was cut off.
You want to keep it 100 if he had left when he wanted to instead of looking for Luke he wouldn't have been there to rescue Leia.
Leia: what are you doing here. You got your clearance.
Han: I’m going, but first I’m going to get you on your ship.
If he had left with his reward in A New Hope instead of coming back to help destroy the Death Star, he wouldn’t have had any problems....
Maybe risking himself for others is in his character. He sure does do it alot.
thats after he came back to save Luke and the day at the death star
thats after he stayed to find and rescue Luke on Hoth, then took on the added responsibility of assisting the evacuation while the Rebel troops and Luke bought the base time...
exactly
He only evacuated Leia. Show me one other person he helped evacuate.
We saying the same thing lol.
And in both cases he went to help his man out...not go back for a bitch.
No.
Absolutely not.
The last Star Wars movie I really enjoyed was Rogue One. Yes, it was fill in the backstory fan service but it was exceptionally well done.
The Last Jedi has pretty much killed any interest I had in seeing these characters develop any further.
As for Solo, I have no interest in seeing it. Plus, they turned Lando Calrissian into a "pansexual" lothario who'll now pretty much fuck anyone or anything. (Men and androids alike).
And what's so fucked up about that is the fact that Lando Calrissian was the 1st prominent Black character in the Star Wars story. I remember as a kid just how important this was in the Black Community back in 1980. So naturally; they decided to undermine the coolest, most important Black man in the galaxy him by making him sexually ambiguous.
I feel the same way after watching the Last Jedi two weeks ago.
Whoever,was the director of Rogue One should get a raise or something;that's the only movie I enjoyed out of the new Star Wars movies. I enjoyed the prequels a lot more than this dog shit.
Yep. After he brought Luke's bum ass back, they wouldn't let him leave until they got the energy field up. The Empire showed up and he was stuck. They all had to leave.
Not going to the movies to see this, all ready downloaded the movie. After Last Jedi, not going to pay for another Star Wars movie until they get off their bullshit.
How could you even think such a thing after seeing Han's response to Leia when she told him she loves him in The Empire Strikes Back? He very matter of factly told her: "I know...".
That; my friend is not the response of a pussy whipped man.
That is the response of a REAL G....
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Welp all I can say was it is a solid entry, I'll give it 3 stars(***). I bet the original directors filmed it as a screwball caper comedy which would have been fine with me, kinda like Cowboy Bebop The Movie. Felt a lil' too formulaic in some cases, the "teen romance" angle made me yawn. Lando was really underwhelming but I do see room to grow in future sequels. The action and efx were top notch especially the train heist.
*Bonus*
Got the surprise of my life coming out of the theater did not know they were having a Caribbean Carnival at Stonecrest mall in Lithonia. Asses and titties everywhere but damn it I didn't have my smartphone with me to take pics, this is the closest thing to Freaknik' the A has seen in a minute.
Downside was I got stuck in traffic for over 2 almost 3 hours trying to get to I 20 boy that was a bitch.
*Bonus*
Got the surprise of my life coming out of the theater did not know they were having a Caribbean Carnival at Stonecrest mall in Lithonia. Asses and titties everywhere but damn it I didn't have my smartphone with me to take pics, this is the closest thing to Freaknik' the A has seen in a minute.
Downside was I got stuck in traffic for over 2 almost 3 hours trying to get to I 20 boy that was a bitch.
Don't forget in Star Wars he left the rebellion to go pay his debts. Ended up making a U turn.
Han helped blow up a death star for the pussy.. lol.
Indeed my friend.
I really loved Rogue One because it very satisfactorily filled in (most of) the blanks just prior to the events in Episode IV. Plus, they gave us Tarkin, Leia and Vader.
FYI: Rogue One was directed by Garreth Edwards. The guy who directed the 2014 Godzilla film...
The version we all saw- was not directed by Gareth Edwards- the real director that finished shooting and put the story together is Tony GilroyIndeed my friend.
I really loved Rogue One because it very satisfactorily filled in (most of) the blanks just prior to the events in Episode IV. Plus, they gave us Tarkin, Leia and Vader.
FYI: Rogue One was directed by Garreth Edwards. The guy who directed the 2014 Godzilla film...
i went ot saw it on sat night..it was pretty good to me!!...it was a pretty good star war movie to me..
its explain how Han Solo act the way he act in all the star wars movies!1..it was ok to watch!!
its explain how Han Solo act the way he act in all the star wars movies!1..it was ok to watch!!
Decent movie. I kinda fell asleep at the point right after they took off in the Falcon. Movie slowed down big time.
I thought the fuel battle scene on the mining planet was great though. Great and realistic looking special effects.
I knew everyone on here was gonna trip on Lando and the pansexual stuff but I'd rather trip on how Donald Glover really ain't that good of a character actor. I figured that out when I watched him on SNL a few weeks back. He does well on Atlanta because I think that character is closer to him in real life. When he has to step out more than that, it's not as believable. Not a horrible performance but not great either. Sorta just like this movie.
I give it 3 Quaid belly faces outta 5
And I can't believe that nobody gonna mention that the best written character in the whole movie was the Droid L3. Hilarious and had a great and clearly defined character arc.
I thought the fuel battle scene on the mining planet was great though. Great and realistic looking special effects.
I knew everyone on here was gonna trip on Lando and the pansexual stuff but I'd rather trip on how Donald Glover really ain't that good of a character actor. I figured that out when I watched him on SNL a few weeks back. He does well on Atlanta because I think that character is closer to him in real life. When he has to step out more than that, it's not as believable. Not a horrible performance but not great either. Sorta just like this movie.
I give it 3 Quaid belly faces outta 5
And I can't believe that nobody gonna mention that the best written character in the whole movie was the Droid L3. Hilarious and had a great and clearly defined character arc.
Who else needed help being evacuated? Everyone else was gone, leaving or dead except for her and the droids.
This too, is also very true.
However Gareth Edwards is still credited as being the primary director of the film.
I also remember hearing about the on set problems with Edwards which put the quality of the film in question.
It seems the Star Wars directors under Kathleen Kennedy are all generally unhappy with how she's steering the ship.
- JJ Abrams has got to be angry at how Kennedy let Rian Johnson essentially shit on the work he did in "Awakens" by putting out that shitty "Last Jedi" travesty.
- Obviously Gareth Edwards ain't coming back to direct any future projects.
- The original directors of "Solo" clashed with Kennedy over the tone of the film and were booted by her for Ron Howard.
Kennedy has now become the source of great division and anger amongst Star Wars fans and the direction she's taking the franchise.
The people Leia was on the communicator with were still in the building. Han never even wondered if they were ok. Look dude, you can keep trying to make it seem like Han didn’t do anything special in that movie for Leia. Everything he did for Leia, he would have done for any random person in the building if you want to, to make it seem like he didn’t do a single thing special for her because of his feelings for her, but you’re just arguing for arguments sake.
I guess the talk they had in the hall when he was upset she didn’t ask him to stay before is a talk he had with every other person in the rebellion then too... “You want me to stay because of how you feel about me” “We need? What about you need?” Said that to the repar people too.
That nigga was leaving because he bumped into bounty hunters. He may have been upset that she didn't ask him to stay but the fact of the matter is he was leaving until he found out Luke didn't report in from his patrol. By the time they got back he was told he couldn't leave.
She was one of the last ones out because she want making sure everyone else got out. Then she couldn't leave because the control center was blown up so she had to leave with Han. Watch the part of the movie where Han goes up the hall, it blows up and he turns around and runs into her in the room.
Believe what you want but up to that point Han was helping out friends before he tried to bounce and to be honest he wouldn't have have been hanging on Jabba's wall had he left them to die.
once principle photography is finished the director credit is locked in a la Zack Snyder on Justice League vs Ron Howard getting the credit for SoloThis too, is also very true.
However Gareth Edwards is still credited as being the primary director of the film.
I also remember hearing about the on set problems with Edwards which put the quality of the film in question.
It seems the Star Wars directors under Kathleen Kennedy are all generally unhappy with how she's steering the ship.
- JJ Abrams has got to be angry at how Kennedy let Rian Johnson essentially shit on the work he did in "Awakens" by putting out that shitty "Last Jedi" travesty.
- Obviously Gareth Edwards ain't coming back to direct any future projects.
- The original directors of "Solo" clashed with Kennedy over the tone of the film and were booted by her for Ron Howard.
Kennedy has now become the source of great division and anger amongst Star Wars fans and the direction she's taking the franchise.
Gareth Edwards just shot a bunch of "really cool shit" without narrative or following the script he had
Kennedy and Disney did not like The Last Jedi script that Rian turned in - my guess is some politics and a fast approaching release date are why it went forward, but its also why they immediately went and hired JJ Abrams to do Ep9 before Rian's first cut was turned in
Kasdan and Kennedy had one vision for Solo - for some reason Lord and Miller didn't want to follow it.
IMO Kennedy has her hands tied by Disney -she didn't want to hire Rian Johnson nor Lord n Miller - she had to satisfy Disney execs before she could fire Lord n Miller.
If it was up to her this would be a Kasdan JJ Abrams tag team using directors like Ron Howard, David Fincher and maybe Spielberg
Unlike Kevin Feige who is trusted and "proven" to Disney execs- Kennedy was one of the conditions forced on them in order to buy LucasFilm
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I dunno about classic ...but it had some moments. Yoda and Mace Windu lightsaber fights
But Camino scenes were visually stunning
Fake misogyny ....undercover incels
I disagree.
I think Kathleen Kennedy has a great deal of power & say so as to the hiring and firing of directors if they don't adhere to HER very specific vision as to the direction of the franchise.
She knew full well and approved of what Rian Johnson did with TLJ in spite of the fan backlash. Many fans and critics alike feel she is pushing her own SJW agenda and placing them into the brand.
Her primary focus seems to be about increasing the visibility and presence of women in the Star Wars storyline. And while this in itself is not a bad thing, what is bad is HOW she's accomplishing it.
Have you noticed:
- The men in the films (The Force Awakens & The Last Jedi) are all now either increasingly incompetent, irrelevant, duplicitous or evil.
- The main "heroes" are now women. This also includes Star Wars: Rebels. (Again, not a bad thing).
- The villain (Kylo) is just an angry, tantrum throwing man-child.
- The hero(ine) Rey is essentially perfect. (A self made, all powerful Jedi Master and pilot who expertly mastered the ways of the Force and lightsaber combat and who is the owner of The Millenium Falcon, without any training).
- Lando (The 1st Black character) introduced in the Star Wars story is now "pansexual". A type of sexuality that has NEVER existed in 8 previous films, assorted cartoons and TV series or videogames. Who do you think approved of this character arc...?
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thats popular hype - don't believe it
look - if it was true - then there was absolutely no reason to hire JJ Abrams for ep9
1. his quote is 20x that of a director like Rian...
2. Studios are only paying for him if they have a perceived problem
keep in mind when JJ was hired for ep9 - before Rian submitted his first cut
Over All thats has been Disney's push for over a decade now
Watch Disney channel and DisneyXD
Look at Pixar's movies over the last 10 years or shit just watch trailers for Incredibles2
Why Does Disney Hate Boys So Much? All Their Male Characters Are Losers
'Beauty and the Beast': When a feminist plays a Disney princess
13 Ways Disney Live-Action Remakes Have Become More Progressive
How Disney Subtly Made 'Beauty And The Beast' More Feminist
Why Disney's Live-Action 'Mulan' is So Promising
but hey don't worry - Marvel will start getting tainted in its next phaze
(Captain Marvel: "the most powerful hero yet" )
I disagree.
I think Kathleen Kennedy has a great deal of power & say so as to the hiring and firing of directors if they don't adhere to HER very specific vision as to the direction of the franchise.
She knew full well and approved of what Rian Johnson did with TLJ in spite of the fan backlash. Many fans and critics alike feel she is pushing her own SJW agenda and placing them into the brand.
Her primary focus seems to be about increasing the visibility and presence of women in the Star Wars storyline. And while this in itself is not a bad thing, what is bad is HOW she's accomplishing it.
Have you noticed:
- The men in the films (The Force Awakens & The Last Jedi) are all now either increasingly incompetent, irrelevant, duplicitous or evil.
- The main "heroes" are now women. This also includes Star Wars: Rebels. (Again, not a bad thing).
- The villain (Kylo) is just an angry, tantrum throwing man-child.
- The hero(ine) Rey is essentially perfect. (A self made, all powerful Jedi Master and pilot who expertly mastered the ways of the Force and lightsaber combat and who is the owner of The Millenium Falcon, without any training).
- Lando (The 1st Black character) introduced in the Star Wars story is now "pansexual". A type of sexuality that has NEVER existed in 8 previous films, assorted cartoons and TV series or videogames. Who do you think approved of this character arc...?
Yes. Han Solo was the definition of masculinity in the Star Wars universe. That Force Awakens spent the majority of the time stripping all that away and establishing Rey as his superior before getting killed off by his soft, emo fuckboy of a son. She even bounced with his right hand man.
I'm surprised she didn't fuck Princess Leia.
Sorry bro.
I'm not completely buying this.
Disney may own the license, but Kennedy is STILL directing the ship.
If you look at the Marvel wing of Disney, they've pretty much had a "hands off" approach to that license.
The suits at Disney see the extremely successful run Kevin Feige has had with the MCU, and they're VERY happy to allow him to make the decisions. They KNOW he's gonna make them big profit returns on their investments.
Feige:
- Picks what projects are greenlit.
- He chooses the story.
- He picks the directors
- He approves the cast.
This is the exact same position Kathleen Kennedy holds with regards to the Star Wars franchise. The major difference between the two is that unlike Kennedy, Kevin Feige knows how to make casting choices and story changes that DON'T condescend to the audience. He knows how to make changes to characters and storylines that are organic, inclusive and seamlessly make sense. He increases the importance and visibility of minority characters and females in the MCU in such a successfully way that we all accept and embrace them.
Kathleen Kennedy has yet to do any of that...
And; in fact, she's only is increasingly alienating many (if not most) of the hardcore/loyal Star Wars fandom.
Just look at the weekend box office news on Solo.
Badly Underperforming...
if you can't see the multiple differences between how Feige got hired vs Kennedy being forced in...Sorry bro.
I'm not completely buying this.
Disney may own the license, but Kennedy is STILL directing the ship.
If you look at the Marvel wing of Disney, they've pretty much had a "hands off" approach to that license.
The suits at Disney see the extremely successful run Kevin Feige has had with the MCU, and they're VERY happy to allow him to make the decisions. They KNOW he's gonna make them big profit returns on their investments.
Feige:
- Picks what projects are greenlit.
- He chooses the story.
- He picks the directors
- He approves the cast.
This is the exact same position Kathleen Kennedy holds with regards to the Star Wars franchise. The major difference between the two is that unlike Kennedy, Kevin Feige knows how to make casting choices and story changes that DON'T condescend to the audience. He knows how to make changes to characters and storylines that are organic, inclusive and seamlessly make sense. He increases the importance and visibility of minority characters and females in the MCU in such a successfully way that we all accept and embrace them.
Kathleen Kennedy has yet to do any of that...
And; in fact, she's only is increasingly alienating many (if not most) of the hardcore/loyal Star Wars fandom.
Just look at the weekend box office news on Solo.
Badly Underperforming...
or how Feige earned the hands off treatment and out muscled Ike Perlmutter...
then you can't begin to understand the politics
Marvel is a still growing industry and brand vs Star Wars is a continuing behemoth because of toys and licensing- keep in mind Lucas was more about selling toys and shit than he was about making movies... Disney is still in that mode
Kennedy does not have final over the IP or stories - because Disney recognizes that one of the strongest brands Lucas has is canon continuity for its characters...
Simply put Feige has to maintain continuity within MCU...
LucasFilm is maintaining continuity through all of its media - Kennedy does not and can not have the autonomy Feige has
yes Solo is under performing partly because fans weren't asking for Solo movie like they are an Obi Wan or Boba Fett movie... also it has a mild buzz because the production issues-
Also note: making Solo was a Disney call - for Harrison Ford to do Force Awakens he asked to be killed off in SW and for Disney to do a Solo origin movie and Indiana Jones movie with Paramount and give him production credits
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