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Soccer Heads - U.S. Soccer Problem & It's Inner City Solution
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there are soccer players making more than kobe?
and people always say there are so few black hockey players cuz its an expensive sport.
thats why we have basketball on lock. all u need is a ball and a hoop.
so with that logic why isnt soccer huge? sorry if its been answered. i didnt read the whole thread.
and people always say there are so few black hockey players cuz its an expensive sport.
thats why we have basketball on lock. all u need is a ball and a hoop.
so with that logic why isnt soccer huge? sorry if its been answered. i didnt read the whole thread.
Well the club teams make the most money overall from selling certain players. Manchester United in England sold their best player in 2009 to Real Madrid in Spain for approx. $120 million at the time. The Players make bank but the clubs selling the players rights make the real profits.
Mannnnnnn. I agree with you 100%. Every positive outlet is a step in the right direction. Going from A to Z doesn't cut it. YOu have to take gradual steps. If soccer provides an outlet for inner city youth, I will welcome it.
You are also right when you said everybody can't be a doctor, lawyer, etc. If you are making an honest dollar shoveling shit at the end of the day, you ok with me.
I hate to say it, but your message is too negative. Unless you are in the hood providing all these solutions you presented, your point is mute.
Mannnnnnnnnnn. This kick would be a "lights out" striker in soccer!!!!!!!!!!!
I would say give me your fastest running backs 5'10 and under.
Your point is true, but right now at the current moment we need to provide an outlet for inner city youth. With the current structure of education in the inner cities not many doctors or lawyers will be coming through the ranks anytime soon. Implementing soccer in the inner city is much easier than overhauling the education system. If I could wave a magic stick I would cure the education of black youths. I don't have a magic stick so implementing soccer is a faster fix solution
Would you say soccer needs an AAU type system implemented?
Sorry brotha. No kids here.
I agree with you about running backs being underpaid for the physical abuse they are taking. I would see running backs on the soccer field.
This is a great discussion.
But just my two cents, soccer will never become big in America until we have hood kids and rednecks playing it. For example, in every inner city and rural area, kids mainly play basketball and football, they all want to make the NBA or the NFL. It is not the main sport in the rurals and inner cities, and the best athletes in the U.S. do not play soccer (in general). Soccer in America is mostly suburban and in other cases, Latino.
I think it comes down to the American mentality in general. American popular sports is based on violence and trash talking on the field, and while there are elements of both in soccer (fouls, hard tackles, pushing, spitting, etc.), it is way too subtle for American taste and passions. It is also difficult to trash talk when most games are 3-2 or 2-1, affairs. The subtlety skill and technique that lend itself to soccer is just not palatble to most American sports fans or kids who are choosing sports.
I love soccer by the way, and wished I could have focused on it when I was a kid, but I grew up in the middle of nowhere and they did not have a soccer team in high school.
But just my two cents, soccer will never become big in America until we have hood kids and rednecks playing it. For example, in every inner city and rural area, kids mainly play basketball and football, they all want to make the NBA or the NFL. It is not the main sport in the rurals and inner cities, and the best athletes in the U.S. do not play soccer (in general). Soccer in America is mostly suburban and in other cases, Latino.
I think it comes down to the American mentality in general. American popular sports is based on violence and trash talking on the field, and while there are elements of both in soccer (fouls, hard tackles, pushing, spitting, etc.), it is way too subtle for American taste and passions. It is also difficult to trash talk when most games are 3-2 or 2-1, affairs. The subtlety skill and technique that lend itself to soccer is just not palatble to most American sports fans or kids who are choosing sports.
I love soccer by the way, and wished I could have focused on it when I was a kid, but I grew up in the middle of nowhere and they did not have a soccer team in high school.
soccer will have u winded tho.
My son will be playing Soccer and Lacrosse...
niggaz arent into all that flopping and shit IMO.
thats one of the reasons soccer has never caught on in this country. it sounds silly but its true. that flopping shit has so devastated the view of the sport by casual observers that a lot of them are on that "my son wont be playing that faggy sport."
watching grown men clutching their faces and knees like a nigga just hit them with a .45 provokes a certain disdain.
thats one of the reasons soccer has never caught on in this country. it sounds silly but its true. that flopping shit has so devastated the view of the sport by casual observers that a lot of them are on that "my son wont be playing that faggy sport."
watching grown men clutching their faces and knees like a nigga just hit them with a .45 provokes a certain disdain.
While i do agree that the USMNT should look for prospects in the inner city. I find it ridiculous for you cats to reason that education should become secondary to being an athlete/entertainer. while the athlete route may be easier it is ineffective in fixing the the inner city problem.
Very interesting thread.
I agree with the folks that are pro sports and the ones that are pro education. But believe it or not the two can coexist. The reason why they usually dont coexist is because people usually put more focus on molding the superior athlete instead of an educated human being; mainly because becoming a great athlete more times than not will get you a lot of quick cash and its less challenging than educating yourself and becoming a great entrepreneur.
But people, especially Children can be rewired....
Ive gotten a lot of great ideas by reading some of the replies in this thread.
Time to go to work.
Thxs
I agree with the folks that are pro sports and the ones that are pro education. But believe it or not the two can coexist. The reason why they usually dont coexist is because people usually put more focus on molding the superior athlete instead of an educated human being; mainly because becoming a great athlete more times than not will get you a lot of quick cash and its less challenging than educating yourself and becoming a great entrepreneur.
But people, especially Children can be rewired....
Ive gotten a lot of great ideas by reading some of the replies in this thread.
Time to go to work.
Thxs
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like i said before yall soccer fans dont know how boring soccer really is
i love playing basketball but i agree wit many people when they say that watching that shit is boring
tons of people watch an play golf, dont make it any less boring
if attention spans were the issue then nobody would ever watch baseball
i got nothing against kids getting into sports, its not nearly as useful as so of yall think but it aint all bad either
but makin some huge ass soccer field in the hood is just as much a waste of space as puttin a golf coarse in the hood
c/s
guess its cool when the occasional kid gets paid but i'd much rather see these kids out here tryin to create business and jobs an replace these arab grocery stores, churches, and chicken spots with black community owned business
i love playing basketball but i agree wit many people when they say that watching that shit is boring
tons of people watch an play golf, dont make it any less boring
if attention spans were the issue then nobody would ever watch baseball
i got nothing against kids getting into sports, its not nearly as useful as so of yall think but it aint all bad either
but makin some huge ass soccer field in the hood is just as much a waste of space as puttin a golf coarse in the hood
c/s
guess its cool when the occasional kid gets paid but i'd much rather see these kids out here tryin to create business and jobs an replace these arab grocery stores, churches, and chicken spots with black community owned business
I respect your opinion, but I must ask, why limit ourselves to certain sports and genres. Why do we limit ourselves to certain things in our community? I think soccer fields and golf courses would be great additions to our community to add some flavor to it. We need new things along with the status quo in the community. Education is a critical aspect to improving the situation, but sports is a way for kids and adults to bond, improve their health, and develop new relationships with one another. Sports isn't all just about going to the NBA or NFL.
I see where the OP is coming from but given the fact that soccer is a relatively low paying and high to moderate injury sport, what are these inner city kids going to fall back on when they get injured?
At least football and basketball have the financial resources to support them if anything happens to them in their careers so IMO, more full scholarships are the way to go. College soccer players are not given the same kind of scholarships and support like football/basketball players. For instance, @ University of Maryland, College Park, a perennial soccer powerhouse (@ least 2 national champions, several ACC) have a very limited number of FULL scholarships compared to the 2 big sports and that often goes to the white suburban kids or the few foreign imports.
At least football and basketball have the financial resources to support them if anything happens to them in their careers so IMO, more full scholarships are the way to go. College soccer players are not given the same kind of scholarships and support like football/basketball players. For instance, @ University of Maryland, College Park, a perennial soccer powerhouse (@ least 2 national champions, several ACC) have a very limited number of FULL scholarships compared to the 2 big sports and that often goes to the white suburban kids or the few foreign imports.
you make no sense... if I was "in the hood providing solutions" then there wouldn't be any problems... would there?
lol@negative... those are the numbers... ENTERTAINMENT is not bringing black people wealth... you need someone to tell you this in 2011??
Come on THINK man
Fuck Tommy Smith, that little bastard has been cooning to the US for many years. I will never forget his bullshit commentary when Nigeria played Italy in 1994.
As for the US having the most dominant football team by simply going to the inner city, please shed this delusion. The other countries are as committed to football as the US would be committed to it. It DOES NOT MATTER WHERE THE US goes, it would never become better than Brazil. In a few years, as the economy of Africans come up, they too will be able to invest in football, further fucking up the aspirations of the likes of the US...
This trend of thought is really irritating. Exactly what sport does the US dominate? Men's basketball? Of course, but they are the only black country which plays it, and even then cacs have beat them on occasion. Baseball is Cuban/ dominican. The US barely registers in boxing at the Olympics. It cannot sprint with the Jamaicans and does not have the ability to run more than 400 meters...
You are thinking bullshit... There is absolutely no credence to this crappy thinking.
It would not mean a fucking thing. I mean, the likes of Brazil are there. How would the US propose to deal with Brazil????
Yeah whatever, right! Football is a sport other countries in the world also play. The Americans would always lose to Brazil, as they always do to Ghana...
Give me a fucking break....American football is not a yardstick you can use since no one in the world plays it. The best American basketball players are only a little better than the cac teams in Europe....In proper football, which the other teams take seriously, the US would be minced even if it took a team of black Americans. So you think a team of Tyrones would beat Brazil? They would not even beat a serious Nigeria or Cameroun, to say nothing of Ghana which always puts the US in its place.
Yup and a few other club teams in District 4. You?
Nzinga why do you come into the thread and only spout hate. I don't believe anybody who has posted in this thread says Americans would dominate the sport. we are only stating that with the amount of talent in the US we should be able to create and maintain a higher quality national team.
There has to to be a love for football (soccer), before America can excel at it.
Kids have to grow up as toddlers wanting to kick a ball.
If you start school and you don't love and want to play it all the time already, then it's too late.
It's the love of the game that creates great players!!!
Kids have to grow up as toddlers wanting to kick a ball.
If you start school and you don't love and want to play it all the time already, then it's too late.
It's the love of the game that creates great players!!!
Sigh...Who said anything about beating Brazil? All we were saying in this thread is that the current set of players and coaching staff on the USMNT isn't cutting it against top quality opponents anymore. If the USA is serious about competing competitively with the likes of Germany, England, Mexico, and Ghana, then they must get faster, more agile, and better technical skill on the ball especially at the defense and midfield positions.
i see where ur gettin at an bringin some diversity to the hood is a good thing but i can probably think of a half dozen things that can be done in the hood that has nothing to do wasting so much space
and a dozen issues that should be addressed before anybody tries to spend money on any of that extra shit
i'm all for the positive stuff u get from sports and i say fuck both leagues, they probably do more harm then good and we need our own shit anyway but u can get all that good stuff from football, basketball and handball. shit they even got a couple baseball fields out here in bk and the few instances that anybody bothers to play soccer is just a bunch of old west indian dudes
Again, i see what your saying, but in black communities in the inner city there is nothing but dilapidated vacant housing and undeveloped lots that can be used for better outlets for our kids. I mean real talk, adults work all day, so the kids would benefit the most from having somewhere to expend all that built up energy. I think alot of space should be used for community gardens. That would be the BEST use for the alot of space in the hood.
How old are you? If you are around 30,I am 100% sure we know each other.
Sigh...Who said anything about beating Brazil? All we were saying in this thread is that the current set of players and coaching staff on the USMNT isn't cutting it against top quality opponents anymore. If the USA is serious about competing competitively with the likes of Germany, England, Mexico, and Ghana, then they must get faster, more agile, and better technical skill on the ball especially at the defense and midfield positions.
I'll tell you why - he's BGOL's Congo Bigot. He believes that Brazilians, having been colonized by the Portuguese, are descendents of Bantus from southern Africa. They're more of his kin than people from the Caribbean and North America. A few years ago, he made a comment about how he can "see" the Bantu in black Brazilians.
Of course, he ignores the fact that the Africans and the Europeans didn't act rationally in the slave trade and Bantu blood can be found as far north as Ontario and Guinean blood can be found as far as Santiago, Chile. Truth doesn't matter to the Congo Bigot.
No one doubts the supremacy in Brazilian football, but when other countries have a plan, they can win. USA Soccer has a long term plan to produce Cup challengers. They are patient and they intend to play their cards right.
AGREE 100%
I have coached a team of Black...YEAH..BLACK Teens to 4 state titles and 3 Region Titles here in GA. They KNEW NOTHING about the game....Once I taught them the ropes...broke down tape....MADE THEM WATCH THE EPL on ESPN and youtube which is a goldmine for vintage footage...i.e...Ajax of the 90's
They were able to understand it better. Too many young men call it a sport for sissy's but once they realize its more to kicking a damn ball they begin to respect it.
Our kids just need to be exposed to it more and it will pick up steam. Soccer is a low paying sport here in the US but, the smallest European League can pay decent money hell there are some big dollars being tossed around in the J-League...so don't get it twisted.
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