So the flu shot does not...
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Protect against H1N1???
What the fuck???
Something about this doesnt seem right.
I'll have to check out what you mean from the main board, but there are TWO flu vaccines this year. The flu vaccine that is currently out is for the "traditional" yearly flu strain. The newly developed vaccine which is the cause of the controversy is one developed specifically for the H1N1 virus. This vaccine is just becoming available across the country.
Here in New York there is extra controversy as Health Care workers (hospital workers, and Department of Health workers) are being ordered to take BOTH flu vaccines, or else risk sanctions, loss of pay, or even loss of your job. There is currently a court battle being waged on whether we can be forced to take the vaccines (do note though that we are mandated, and have complied with the dictate that we take the MMR [Measles, Mumps and Rubella] vaccine and to have yearly TB skin tests)
I personally have never taken a flu shot in my life, and have never contracted the flu and remain in relatively good health. I have never considered myself to be within the high-risk population. However, I will have to consider it this year (as my job may be at stake anyway). But I do not understand the controversy over this new vaccine. There are naysayers who are spouting "experimentation" and that there is "no proof that the vaccine works" -- which is a thread of truth, in that NO FLU VACCINE IS GUARANTEED TO WORK. The vaccine is a way to try to imbue and boost a level of immunity within your body's own immune system. True, taking the vaccine does not mean one will not contract the flu, and one does not know whether one will be mildly sick, or worst, or even die. But wouldn't some measure of protection be better than none?
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I havent seen it on the main board, but I am asking because I am supposed to get a flu shot on Wednesday through my job. And I thought that that 1 shot protects against both....Something seems really strange about having to have 2 different shots..I am NOT getting a H1N1 vaccine....Seems experimental or something.
Got both Flu shots 
Got the Flu last year that shit is no joke
Got the Flu last year that shit is no joke
I havent seen it on the main board, but I am asking because I am supposed to get a flu shot on Wednesday through my job. And I thought that that 1 shot protects against both....Something seems really strange about having to have 2 different shots..I am NOT getting a H1N1 vaccine....Seems experimental or something.
There are two shots because we now have two different strains of flu. There was a scramble to develop the vaccine for H1N1. Perhaps in future years they may be able to include both vaccines in one shot.
The only reason the H1N1 vaccine seems "experimental" is that it is a new strain. Realistically, every year's vaccine can be considered "experimental" if you want to look at it that way. Basically the flu virus mutates each year and vaccines are developed each year based on the strain that is recognized.
Actually, more people died from last year's "regular" flu than from the H1N1 strain. However, scientists are worried as the H1N1 seems to be a particular virulent strain, for some reason it transmits more easily than "regular" flu, and for some reason is more dangerous to children and young adults. It also doesn't seem to follow the usual seasonal pattern of peaking in the fall and winter and waning in the spring and summer.
If you are going to get one, you may as well get the H1N1 when it is available, but speak to your doctor, who may highly recommend it since you are expecting.
People need to quit with the mass hysteria. Flu shots have been around for decades. Now viruses pop up. It's biology.
Michael Shermer has an interesting column called "The Skeptic" in the Scientific American
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=skeptic-agenticity
Michael Shermer has an interesting column called "The Skeptic" in the Scientific American
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=skeptic-agenticity
Visit www.flu.gov
There's a large section of Questions and Answers for skeptics, even a question about can you get "swine flu" from eating pork
A nurse came to our chapter meeting the other day, and stressed to us to get flu shots this season...I work in elementary schools, and I've never got a flu shot and maintained good health
It's all about washing your hands for 15-20 seconds, coughing and sneezing into your sleeve and staying the FUCK away from sick-ass people... When I see a kid in my school coughing, hacking, etc., I turn the other way
There's a large section of Questions and Answers for skeptics, even a question about can you get "swine flu" from eating pork
A nurse came to our chapter meeting the other day, and stressed to us to get flu shots this season...I work in elementary schools, and I've never got a flu shot and maintained good health
It's all about washing your hands for 15-20 seconds, coughing and sneezing into your sleeve and staying the FUCK away from sick-ass people... When I see a kid in my school coughing, hacking, etc., I turn the other way
It's all about washing your hands for 15-20 seconds, coughing and sneezing into your sleeve and staying the FUCK away from sick-ass people... When I see a kid in my school coughing, hacking, etc., I turn the other way
You are correct, that has always been the main defense against the flu and other infections Jo. The problem is that while we live in one of the most industrialized nations in the world, you still have plenty of people who do not cover their mouths when they sneeze, nor wash their hands when coming out of the damned stall.
Another big problem is people, when they do get sick, do not know how to keep their asses home. Their kids get sick, they do not want to stay home to take care of the kid, so they still send them to school and daycare. Adults get sick, are hacking up a lung, but still drag themselves to work. They are afraid to get docked for the day. The only off day a worker gets is when he dies
Another big problem is people, when they do get sick, do not know how to keep their asses home. Their kids get sick, they do not want to stay home to take care of the kid, so they still send them to school and daycare. Adults get sick, are hacking up a lung, but still drag themselves to work. They are afraid to get docked for the day. The only off day a worker gets is when he dies
So true...
We've sent notices home to parents about keeping their children at home when sick, and avoiding sending them to school at all costs. We also have signs up on above all the faucets in the bathrooms (adults and children) about washing hands appropriately. I can't lie that I still get stuck on the whole washing of hands, leaving the faucet running while you get a paper towel and THEN turning off the water with the paper towel you just wiped your hands with...it just seems real wasteful of paper and water
Protect against H1N1???
What the fuck???
Something about this doesnt seem right.
let me explain how the flu shots work. There are millions of strains of the flu virus so a bunch of scientist get in the lab and try to predict what strands will infect people the most in the upcoming season and they develop the flu shot off of that. H1N1 is a a whole different strand of the virus so they need a different formula for the shot.
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