So Has Anyone Tried That Starbucks Ice Cream?
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Bigirl you are like Debby Downer whats really good??? If somebody made a thread about how awesome Unicorns were you would be the first one in line complaining about how the magic cartel has a monoply on the poor elf people and how their life ain't that enchanted. 
For somebody so happy you sure do drag a dark ass cloud around shits not healthy, I'm not a SOL regular but from the few posts i have seen you sound like you want to slit your wrists while you jump out a window shooting yourself. There has to be something worth smiling about.
I hardly even eat icecream but i can appreciate this thread.
BTW Pralines and cream is my shit so is that cheese cake ice cream ohhh snap
For somebody so happy you sure do drag a dark ass cloud around shits not healthy, I'm not a SOL regular but from the few posts i have seen you sound like you want to slit your wrists while you jump out a window shooting yourself. There has to be something worth smiling about.
I hardly even eat icecream but i can appreciate this thread.
BTW Pralines and cream is my shit so is that cheese cake ice cream ohhh snap
BTW Pralines and cream is my shit so is that cheese cake ice cream ohhh snap
I don't think anyone has brought up Blue Bell Ice Cream, so let me be the first to say that this shit right here is magical!
They have a pretty good Pralines and Cream, as well as Butter Pecan (I feel like if you like one, you'll like the other)
Blue Bell also has a lot of interesting, Louisiana flavors like King Cake and Mardi Gras...boyyyy, that ish is good! I'm not big on sweets, but I could eat THIS ice cream all day!
Huh? Over ice cream Bigirl? Really? It's not like people are trying to live on this shit. Just a guilty pleasure right? Calm down.
You nailed it, she doesn't have any pleasure in her life.
LoneStar29
Banned
MotivatorYo Pralines and cream is my fave too
But nothing beats that Italian real fruit gelato Ice Cream on St.Clair ... ever been there??
I don't think anyone has brought up Blue Bell Ice Cream, so let me be the first to say that this shit right here is magical!
They have a pretty good Pralines and Cream, as well as Butter Pecan (I feel like if you like one, you'll like the other)
Blue Bell also has a lot of interesting, Louisiana flavors like King Cake and Mardi Gras...boyyyy, that ish is good! I'm not big on sweets, but I could eat THIS ice cream all day!
Magical you say? but what about the oppressed unicorns?
sorry ok i'm done i'm done.Damnit i don't think they sell that in canada Damn you NAFTA
i'm going back to new york in a few weeks i'll have to try it then. Jo you're vouching for this i'm gonna give it a try 
bullshit I savor fruit not ice cream
ice cream makes my belly hurt that is not pleasure
once or twice a year I will have some sorbet but generally sugar(unless its natural sugar in fruit) makes me feel fucked up so again that is not pleasure
yes you are
Yo Pralines and cream is my fave too
But nothing beats that Italian real fruit gelato Ice Cream on St.Clair ... ever been there??
See you can't deny the power of the Pralines
Where on St Clair??? There is a spot on college i pass by every once and a while but i've never tried it though I think i need to make a trip to St. Clair hmmmmmmmmmmmm
Magical you say? but what about the oppressed unicorns?
Damnit i don't think they sell that in canada Damn you NAFTA
I don't think they sell Blue Bell in New York
It's more of a southern staple...but, here in North Carolina, it's all over!
@ you damning NAFTA
bullshit I savor fruit not ice cream
ice cream makes my belly hurt that is not pleasure
once or twice a year I will have some sorbet but generally sugar(unless its natural sugar in fruit) makes me feel fucked up so again that is not pleasure
Are you lactose intolerant also or is it just the high amount of sugar?
I know I'm not a big eater of ice cream, but sometimes the weather just calls for it
I don't think they sell Blue Bell in New York
It's more of a southern staple...but, here in North Carolina, it's all over!
ok now i'm crushed after you selling it i was ready to get my ice cream on *sigh* i'll just drown my empty sugar free tears in my vanilla socialist canada flavour <-- with a U cause i'm canadian
both but like I said occasionally a few bites of sorbet
I don't think anyone has brought up Blue Bell Ice Cream, so let me be the first to say that this shit right here is magical!
They have a pretty good Pralines and Cream, as well as Butter Pecan (I feel like if you like one, you'll like the other)
Blue Bell also has a lot of interesting, Louisiana flavors like King Cake and Mardi Gras...boyyyy, that ish is good! I'm not big on sweets, but I could eat THIS ice cream all day!
blue bell is the shit...one of the prides of texas
homemade vanilla...all day
Unsafe Levels of Dioxin have been found in Ben & Jerry’s Ice Cream.
Ben & Jerry are environmental activists, and use milk from the healthiest cows. Imagine what is in the concentrated cheese and ice cream made from the average dairy cow?
Unsafe levels of dioxin were measured in a sample of Ben & Jerry’s brand ice cream, according to a new study published on Junkscience.com.
(http://www.junkscience.com/nov99/benjerry.htm).
Ben & Jerry’s promotional literature reveals that Dioxin's cause "cancer, genetic and reproductive defects and learning disabilities."
Ben and Jerry say:
"The only safe level of dioxin exposure is no exposure at all."
STEVE MILLOY, co-author of the study and owner of the JUNK SCIENCE website wrote:
"The level of dioxin tested in Ben & Jerry's was almost 200 times greater than the "virtually safe [daily] dose" determined by the EPA, said Michael Gough, lead study author. Gough is a former government scientist who chaired the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services advisory panel on the effects of dioxin-contaminated Agent Orange on U.S. Air Force personnel in Vietnam.
"An independent laboratory measured 0.79 ± 0.38 parts per trillion of dioxin in the sample of ice cream, " said Gough . "Our result has measurement error associated with it and the sample may or may not be representative of all Ben & Jerry’s ice cream, but our result is consistent with current scientific literature."
Gough and Milloy noted they believe existing scientific evidence does not credibly link low levels of dioxin exposure with human health effects. "But not everyone agrees," said co-author Steven Milloy, editor of Junkscience.com. "Ben & Jerry’s and Greenpeace, the company’s source for information on dioxin, have concluded that dioxin is not safe at any level."
"If dioxin is so dangerous, perhaps Ben & Jerry’s should remove its ice cream from the market until it is 'safe', consistent with the company’s promotional literature," suggested Milloy.
"Many children enjoy Ben & Jerry’s ice cream," said Milloy, "but by the company’s own standards, its ice cream is not safe. Are they are choosing corporate profits over children’s health?" he asked. "Maybe an appropriate new flavor would be ‘Tasty Toxics’ or ‘World’s Best Hypocrisy’."
A full copy of the report is at Junkscience.com
(http://www.junkscience.com/nov99/benjerry.htm).
Steven Milloy may be contacted at 202-467-8586.
Robert Cohen
http://www.notmilk.com
http://www.notmilk.com/hs
Ben & Jerry are environmental activists, and use milk from the healthiest cows. Imagine what is in the concentrated cheese and ice cream made from the average dairy cow?
Unsafe levels of dioxin were measured in a sample of Ben & Jerry’s brand ice cream, according to a new study published on Junkscience.com.
(http://www.junkscience.com/nov99/benjerry.htm).
Ben & Jerry’s promotional literature reveals that Dioxin's cause "cancer, genetic and reproductive defects and learning disabilities."
Ben and Jerry say:
"The only safe level of dioxin exposure is no exposure at all."
STEVE MILLOY, co-author of the study and owner of the JUNK SCIENCE website wrote:
"The level of dioxin tested in Ben & Jerry's was almost 200 times greater than the "virtually safe [daily] dose" determined by the EPA, said Michael Gough, lead study author. Gough is a former government scientist who chaired the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services advisory panel on the effects of dioxin-contaminated Agent Orange on U.S. Air Force personnel in Vietnam.
"An independent laboratory measured 0.79 ± 0.38 parts per trillion of dioxin in the sample of ice cream, " said Gough . "Our result has measurement error associated with it and the sample may or may not be representative of all Ben & Jerry’s ice cream, but our result is consistent with current scientific literature."
Gough and Milloy noted they believe existing scientific evidence does not credibly link low levels of dioxin exposure with human health effects. "But not everyone agrees," said co-author Steven Milloy, editor of Junkscience.com. "Ben & Jerry’s and Greenpeace, the company’s source for information on dioxin, have concluded that dioxin is not safe at any level."
"If dioxin is so dangerous, perhaps Ben & Jerry’s should remove its ice cream from the market until it is 'safe', consistent with the company’s promotional literature," suggested Milloy.
"Many children enjoy Ben & Jerry’s ice cream," said Milloy, "but by the company’s own standards, its ice cream is not safe. Are they are choosing corporate profits over children’s health?" he asked. "Maybe an appropriate new flavor would be ‘Tasty Toxics’ or ‘World’s Best Hypocrisy’."
A full copy of the report is at Junkscience.com
(http://www.junkscience.com/nov99/benjerry.htm).
Steven Milloy may be contacted at 202-467-8586.
Robert Cohen
http://www.notmilk.com
http://www.notmilk.com/hs
Dairy industry milk mustache ads claim:
MILK- 9 ESSENTIAL INGREDIENTS
Ben Cohen just received four essential ingredients, each a large piece of vein taken from Ben's leg to replace and bypass badly damaged atherosclerotic sections of Mr. Ice Cream's arteries.
Ben's tasty treats may contain nine components that are essential to the financial survival of cardiologists and heart surgeons. Fat. Cholesterol. Xanthene Oxidase. Galactose. Dioxins. Virus, pus, bacteria & parasites.
Saturated animal fat. Milk has been called "liquid meat." Twelve pounds of milk are required to manufacture one pint of Ben's very rich ice cream. For some, this treat is an essential ending to a delicious meal. To others, it's an essential finale to a delicious life.
Cholesterol. That's another essential ingredient in Ben's gourmet ice cream. Ben has now been advised to limit his intake of cholesterol. Perhaps he'll seek a second opinion from a dairy industry cardiologist.
Xanthene Oxidase. Two Connecticut cardiologists (Oster & Ross) identified an essential enzyme in milk that destroyed one third of the atrial material in the arteries of their patients.
Galactose, a milk sugar. Another essential milk component that acts to degrade the arteries. The lucky people who cannot tolerate lactose avoid ice cream. Those who can digest lactose break it down into two other sugars, glucose and galactose.
Steve Milloy (junkscience.com) tested Ben's Vanilla ice cream. What did he find? Two hundred times the safe level of dioxins. Industrial sludge adds to the potent brew of essential ingredients.
Virus, pus, bacteria. Do infections do the heart any good? What is the effect of disease on the immune system?
Parasites? Heart worms, filaria. Slaughterhouses have employees whose job it is to fill bins with creatures who lodge in internal organs, destroying from within. Anybody with a dog knows that heartworm medicine is essential. Humans get heartworms too. Have you taken your medicine?
The best medicine is prevention. One gram of prevention is worth a kilo of cure. Prediction: Ben's future will not include ice cream.
Robert Cohen author of: MILK A-Z
(201-871-5871)
Executive Director
Dairy Education Board
http://www.notmilk.com
MILK- 9 ESSENTIAL INGREDIENTS
Ben Cohen just received four essential ingredients, each a large piece of vein taken from Ben's leg to replace and bypass badly damaged atherosclerotic sections of Mr. Ice Cream's arteries.
Ben's tasty treats may contain nine components that are essential to the financial survival of cardiologists and heart surgeons. Fat. Cholesterol. Xanthene Oxidase. Galactose. Dioxins. Virus, pus, bacteria & parasites.
Saturated animal fat. Milk has been called "liquid meat." Twelve pounds of milk are required to manufacture one pint of Ben's very rich ice cream. For some, this treat is an essential ending to a delicious meal. To others, it's an essential finale to a delicious life.
Cholesterol. That's another essential ingredient in Ben's gourmet ice cream. Ben has now been advised to limit his intake of cholesterol. Perhaps he'll seek a second opinion from a dairy industry cardiologist.
Xanthene Oxidase. Two Connecticut cardiologists (Oster & Ross) identified an essential enzyme in milk that destroyed one third of the atrial material in the arteries of their patients.
Galactose, a milk sugar. Another essential milk component that acts to degrade the arteries. The lucky people who cannot tolerate lactose avoid ice cream. Those who can digest lactose break it down into two other sugars, glucose and galactose.
Steve Milloy (junkscience.com) tested Ben's Vanilla ice cream. What did he find? Two hundred times the safe level of dioxins. Industrial sludge adds to the potent brew of essential ingredients.
Virus, pus, bacteria. Do infections do the heart any good? What is the effect of disease on the immune system?
Parasites? Heart worms, filaria. Slaughterhouses have employees whose job it is to fill bins with creatures who lodge in internal organs, destroying from within. Anybody with a dog knows that heartworm medicine is essential. Humans get heartworms too. Have you taken your medicine?
The best medicine is prevention. One gram of prevention is worth a kilo of cure. Prediction: Ben's future will not include ice cream.
Robert Cohen author of: MILK A-Z
(201-871-5871)
Executive Director
Dairy Education Board
http://www.notmilk.com
LoneStar29
Banned
See you can't deny the power of the Pralines
Where on St Clair??? There is a spot on college i pass by every once and a while but i've never tried it though I think i need to make a trip to St. Clair hmmmmmmmmmmmm
St.Clair and Lansdowne
It'll be worth the trip trust mei'll just drown my empty sugar free tears in my vanilla socialist canada flavour <-- with a U cause i'm canadian
Dangers Of Milk And
Dairy Products - The Facts
By Dave Rietz
Webmaster www.notmilk.com
7-6-2
Yes... milk is Mother Nature's "perfect food" ...for a calf... until it is weaned.
Everything you know about cow's milk and dairy is probably part of a Dairy industry MYTH.
Cow's milk is an unhealthy fluid from diseased animals that contains a wide range of dangerous and disease-causing substances that have a cumulative negative effect on all who consume it.
MILK'S BASIC CONTENTS
*ALL* cow's milk (regular and 'organic') has 59 active hormones, scores of allergens, fat and cholesterol.
Most cow's milk has measurable quantities of herbicides, pesticides, dioxins (up to 200 times the safe levels), up to 52 powerful antibiotics (perhaps 53, with LS-50), blood, pus, feces, bacteria and viruses. (Cow's milk can have traces of anything the cow ate... including such things as radioactive fallout from nuke testing ... (the 50's strontium-90 problem).
LEADING CAUSES OF DEATH IN AMERICA
http://webapp.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus.html (1998)
Rank Total Description
1 724,859 Heart Disease (think fats/cholesterol: meat/dairy)
2 541,532 Malignant Neoplasms (cancer: think toxins/milk/dairy)
2a 250,000 Medical system (drugs/etc. think ignorance/incompetence)
3 158,448 Cerebro-vascular (think meat milk and dairy)
4 112,584 Bronchitis Emphysema Asthma (think toxins/milk/dairy)
5 97,835 Unintentional Injuries and Adverse Effects
6 91,871 Pneumonia & Influenza (think weak immune systems and
mucus)
7 64,751 Diabetes (think milk/dairy)
7a 40,000+ Highway slaughter (men, women and children)
8 30,575 Suicide (think behavioral problems)
9 26,182 Nephritis (Bright's disease: inflammation of the
kidneys)
10 25,192 Liver Disease (think alcohol and other toxins)
(2a and 7a were added for completeness)
(note: Number 13 on the CDC list is -18,272 Homicide & Legal Intervention-. It is curious that the CDC would readily list law enforcement and homicides... and not the 250,000 deaths caused by the medical system!)
CANCER FUEL
Of those 59 hormones one is a powerful GROWTH hormone called Insulin- like Growth Factor ONE (IGF-1). By a freak of nature it is identical in cows and humans. Consider this hormone to be a "fuel cell" for any cancer... (the medical world says IGF-1 is a key factor in the rapid growth and proliferation of breast, prostate and colon cancers, and we suspect that most likely it will be found to promote ALL cancers).
IGF-1 is a normal part of ALL milk... the newborn is SUPPOSED to grow quickly! What makes the 50% of obese American consumers think they need MORE growth? Consumers don't think anything about it because they do not have a clue to the problem... nor do most of our doctors.
(See http://www.notmilk.com/igf1time.txt for a time line)
QUANTITY
Each bite of hard cheese has TEN TIMES whatever was in that sip of milk... because it takes ten pounds of milk to make one pound of cheese. Each bite of ice cream has 12 times ... and every swipe of butter 21 times whatever is contained in the fat molecules in a sip of milk.
MONSANTO AND rbGH (Posilac)
Monsanto Chemical Co., maker of fine poisons such as DDT, agent orange, Roundup and more... spent around half a billion dollars inventing a shot to inject into cows... to force a cow to produce MORE milk (for an already glutted taxpayer subsidized market).
Unfortunately, they created *FIVE* errors in their Frankenstein Posilac (rbGH) shot that direly affected all test animals... but that important report (Richard, Odaglia & Deslex, 1989) has been hidden from everyone under Clinton's Trade Secrets act. The Canadians read enough of this report (before it was stolen) to reject rbGH for their country.
Monsanto's Posilac creates additional IGF-1 in milk: up to 80% more.
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) insists that IGF-1 is destroyed in the stomach. If that were true, the FDA has proven that breast feeding cannot work. Common sense says their "finding" is ridiculous because this growth factor DOES make the baby calf grow (rapidly, as mother natured intended). Visit the Dairy Education Board at http://www.notmilk.com/deb/100399.html to review a DAIRY study that confirms what the FDA has lied about this for years.
IGF-1 INCREASES
This study involved two groups. One group consuming 12 ounces of milk a day and the other consuming the USDA recommended allowance of 24 ounces (three cups). This report notes that the participants consuming 12 ounces more milk per day... HAD A 10% RISE IN IGF-1 IN THEIR BLOOD SERUM! Now, consider that PER DAY, from ALL sources, the typical milk/dairy consumer ingests approximately 39% of daily diet from dairy... and that 10% increase becomes the "tip of the iceberg". We have NO idea of the non-dairy versus full-dairy difference but considering cancer rates... it has to be significant.
FAT
Whole milk 49% of the calories are from fat.
"2%" milk 35% of the calories are from fat.
Cheddar cheese 74% of the calories are from fat.
Butter 100% of the calories are from fat.
Most folks suspect that butter is all fat. Most folks have no concept of the just how much fat is in the rest of milk and dairy. Perhaps the 54% of Americans who are obese need to comprehend that milk, ice cream, cheeses, yogurts, and all the OTHER products that use milk derivatives (casein, whey, lactose, colostrum) are most likely a significant cause for their weight and health problem.
CALCIUM
Calcium? Where do the COWS get calcium for their big bones? Yes... from plants! The calcium they consume from plants has a large amount of magnesium... necessary for the body to absorb and USE the calcium.
The calcium in cow's milk is basically useless because it has insufficient magnesium content (those nations with the highest amount of milk/dairy consumption also have the highest rates of osteoporosis. Proof? How about a controlled study of 78,000 nurses over a period of 12 years?
Read more about it at:
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/030799.html Article on the 78,000 nurse study
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/092098.html CALCIUM AND BONE DISEASE
http://www.notmilk.com/badbones.html WHO GETS BONE DISEASE?
http://www.notmilk.com/bonehead.txt CRIPPLING BONEHEADS
http://www.notmilk.com/calcium/index.html Consolidated info
Cows milk has three times the calcium as does human breast milk. No matter, neither are very usable because in order to be absorbed and used their MUST be an equal quantity of MAGNESIUM (as exists in the greens that cows eat to get all the calcium they need for their big bones). Milk has only enough magnesium to absorb around 11% (33mg per cup) of calcium.
Per the USDA 8 ounces (one cup) of cows milk contains:
Calcium, Ca mg 291.336
Magnesium, Mg mg 32.794
The USDA recommends 1200mg of calcium per day. The USDA recommended three cups of milk a day only have 900mg of calcium. Some argue that only 1/3 of the magnesium is necessary. Mother nature seems to suggest it should be one to one. If the ratio for proper absorption were 1/3 magnesium to one calcium then no more than 300mg of that 900mg of calcium is usable. If, in fact, it is a one to one ratio... only 98.38mg of calcium is usable.
It is not a matter of how much calcium one ingests... but how much one does not lose.
PROTEIN
Milk can be thought of as "liquid meat" because of its high protein content which, in concert with other proteins, may actually LEACH calcium from the body. Countries that consume high protein diets (meat, milk and dairy) have the highest rates of osteoporosis.
THE 'WHOLESOME' PROTEIN MYTH
87% of milk is water. That makes it VERY expensive water.
Broken down into its basic groups... WHOLE MILK is:
WATER FAT CASEIN OTHER PROTEIN
87% 3.25% 4% 1% 4.75
(note: that is 3.25% "milkfat" which includes the 87% water.)
80% of the protein in milk is casein. Casein is a powerful binder... a
polymer used to make plastics... and a glue that is better used to make
sturdy furniture or hold beer bottle labels in place. It is in
thousands of processed foods as a binder... as "something" caseinate.
Casein is a powerful allergen... a histamine that creates lots of
mucus. The only medicine in Olympic athlete Flo-Jo's body was Benedryl,
a power antihistamine she took to combat her last meal... pizza.
For the whole Flo-Jo story:
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/092198.html,
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/111598.html and
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/112398.html for the whole story.
BACTERIA
Cow's milk is allowed to have feces in it. This is a major source for bacteria. Milk is typically pasteurized more than once before it gets to your table... each time for only 15 seconds at 162 degrees Fahrenheit.
To sanitize water one is told to boil it (212 degrees F) for several minutes. That is a tremendous disparity, isn't it!
Keep in mind that at room temperature the number of bacteria in milk DOUBLE around every 20 minutes. No wonder milk turns rotten very quickly.
PUS
ONE cubic centimeter (cc) of commercial cow's milk is allowed to have up to 750,000 somatic cells (common name is "PUS") and 20,000 live bacteria... before it is kept off the market.
That amounts to a whopping 20 million live squiggly bacteria and up to 750 MILLION pus cells per liter (bit more than a quart).
1 cup = 236.5882cc 177,441,150 pus cells ~ 4,731,600 bacteria
24 oz (3 glasses) = 532,323,450 pus cells ~ 14,220,000 bacteria
(the "recommended" daily intake)
The EU and the Canadians allow for a less "tasty" 400,000,000 pus cells per liter.
Typically these levels are lower... but they COULD reach these levels and still get to YOUR table.
CHOLESTEROL
The cholesterol content of those three glasses of milk is equal to what one would get from 53 slices of bacon. Do you know of any doctor who recommends that much bacon per day?
KOSHER
Is cow's milk and dairy "Kosher"? Consider this:
"D-3 always is derived from an animal. The sunlight reaction that converts 7-dehydrocholesterol to vitamin D-3 is a 'pure' chemical reaction that occurs in your skin in certain cells."
"The provitamin known as 7-dehydrocholesterol is extracted and isolated from the skins of mammals and purified." (Marian Herbert of the Vitamin D Workshop U of C)
Vitamin D-3 can come from four different sources:
Pig skin, sheep skin, raw fish liver, and pig brains. Most of the time, Vitamin D-3 is extracted from pig skin and sold to dairy processors.
Short answer to "is milk kosher" - probably not.
OTHER 'STUFF'
Fat and cholesterol. Lots of it. Per the dairy influenced USDA "food pyramid" all milk, dairy and meats should represent no more than 8% of the diet. Statistically, by volume of sales in a nation of 281 million Americans, it works out to almost 40% of the diet for MILK AND DAIRY.. without the meat.
The milk of each of the over 4,700 mammals on earth is formulated specifically for that species. There are special lactoferrins and immunoglobulins (cow specific immunizing stuff) that in humans serve as allergens.
LEUKEMIA
According to Hoards Dairyman (Volume 147, number 4)... 89% of America's dairy herds have the leukemia virus. (more at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/835)
DIABETES
The protein lactalbumin, has been identified as a key factor in diabetes (and a major reason for NOT giving cows milk to infants).
CROHN'S DISEASE
Mycobacterium paratuberculosis causes a bovine disease called "Johne's."
Cows diagnosed with Johne's Disease have diarrhea, and heavy fecal shedding of bacteria. This bacteria becomes cultured in milk, and is not destroyed by pasteurization. Occasionally, the milk-borne bacteria will begin to grow in the human host, and the results are irritable bowel syndrome and Crohn's Disease.
MAD COW DISEASE
There may also be prions (pronounced PREons) in the milk and meat. This is crystalline substance that acts like a virus... with an "incubation" period of from 5 to 30 years. The end result is MAD COW DISEASE!
HOMOGENIZATION
Large fat molecules cannot get through the intestinal wall into the bloodstream. The cream no longer rises... because homogenization breaks up those large molecules into small ones that DO get into the bloodstream! This becomes an expressway for any fat-borne toxins (lead, dioxin's, etc.) into your (otherwise) most protected organs.
CUMULATIVE EFFECTS
How does this impact humans who consume cow's milk and dairy? Obesity (over 50% of Americans and rising), heart disease, cancer, allergies, digestive problems, diabetes, asthma, desensitization to antibiotics, behavioral problems, and the constant ingestion of dioxin's, herbicides, pesticides (and anything else the cow eats that is not good for any critter), that winds up getting stored in HUMAN fat... is not healthy by any measure.
Those who resist believing the truth should understand that MOST of the world's population CANNOT tolerate the lactose in cow's milk. Up to 95% of the black population, around 53% of the Hispanics, etc.) So much for cow's milk being "natures perfect food" for humans! Mother nature knows better.
Common sense question: Where was this massive "milk is a must" before refrigeration, pasteurization and mass transportation? Back when cows gave only 1-4 pounds a day it was quickly made into BUTTER and cheese! Now that those same cows have been tweaked and shot-up with Posilac to produce up to 55 or more pounds of milk per day... almost all year long... it is suddenly (after many thousands of years) a daily "staple". NOT!
POLLUTION
There are around 9.2 million dairy cows in the United states. Each dairy cow ingests around 330 pounds of feed (perhaps 50 pounds) and water (around 280 pounds or 33 gallons) per day. Allowing for the best dairy production of 55 pounds of milk per day (over ten times what mother nature designed the cow to produce) that means that what remains becomes "slurry".
That means around 275 pound of urine and feces per day... per cow, for a daily total of 2.53 BILLION pounds of pollution. Per year... that amounts to around 923 billion pounds of UNTREATED pollution entering our streams, rivers, lakes... and drinking water systems.
Cows are hot-blooded mammals. Like all other mammals they pass gas. Somewhat like elephants their compartmented digestive system is rather inefficient... which leads to the creation of MORE gas. During a Discovery Channel documentary on elephants a parting quip was that the average adult elephant passes enough methane gas per day to run a car about 20 miles.
Cows are not much better. The English New Scientist (page 5 -31.8.96) mentions that cattle produce around 48 kilograms (105 pounds) of methane each per year and that more bubbles out of the animals' manure. Dairy cows eat more because they produce milk. With 9.2 million dairy cows times a minimum of 100 pounds of methane gas per year... that amounts almost a billion pounds of methane gas released into the atmosphere each year. With around 100 million beef cattle... pigs, sheep, and other "factory farmed" animals it should not be difficult to fathom the extent of this problem.
This means that "Beef is a greenhouse-intensive food" and a major cause of global warming (with dairy a significant part of the problem).
Another major point is:
"Milk is a very strong pollutant: it is about 400 times more polluting than untreated sewage. To put it another way, 1,000 gallons of milk has the same polluting potential as the untreated sewage from a town of 7,000 people." Morlais Owen. Chief Scientist for Welsh Water. North Wales Weekly News. 24.3.88.
SOME QUESTIONS ANSWERED
Q: What is WHEY?
A: Whey results when the FAT and CASEIN are removed from milk.
In making cheese, the curds become the cheese.
Whey's main components are bovine serum albumin and lactalbumin.
There are other hormones contained in whey.
Q: What happens to the:
59 hormones, scores of allergens herbicides, pesticides, dioxins
up to 52 antibiotics
When made into cheese?
A: Everything gets concentrated.
When made into butter?
A: The allergens get lost: but the dioxin's and
pesticides and antibiotics remain in the fat.
In the digestive system?
A: Steroid hormones survive, as do dioxins and antibiotics.
In homogenized milk, protein hormones survive... depending upon the
gastric pH, some protein hormones in cheese survive, but not all...
eleven steroid hormones survive.
AND WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?
Eventually, everything is broken down, but not before the chemical messengers (hormones) "deliver their message."
Each of those hormones and proteins acts differently and has different rates of degradation. BOTTOM LINE... they all survive to a certain degree... and the effects are cumulative.
OTHER HEATH-TRASHING SUBSTANCES IN COW'S MILK
Whey: Blood proteins. Bovine serum lactalbumin has been identified as a trigger for diabetes and other autoimmune diseases.
Lactose: Two sugars. Glucose and galactose. Galactose has been indentified as a trigger for glaucoma. There are several columns that cover lactose (covering galactose and galactosemia):
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/090599.txt Dr. Gordon: Heart Disease
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/629 Lactose is dangerous
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/453 Ben's heart
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/396 Female Cancers
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/378 Lactose intolerance
Colostrum (cow's first milk): Loaded with hormones, particularly IGF-I, along with loads of immunizing agents for COW DISEASES.
Answers courtesy of the NOTMILKMAN. (notmilkman@notmilk.com)
MILK...What a surprise!
Read what a NOTMILK guest book respondent said:
http://www.notmilk.com/gbooktalk.txt
For more of the WHOLE truth... visit:
For all past newsletters visit with a wealth of information:
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/column.html
and for the Daily Squirts of NOTMILK wisdom...
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/squirts.html
Diabetics please read http://www.notmilk.com/deb/011099.html
Read up on "mad cow disease"? Visit
http://www.milkgate.com for what may well be mankind's NEXT plague.
http://www.notmilk.com/milkinfo.txt my 2400 word overview (this file)
http://www.notmilk.com/wholemilk.txt USDA facts, and what they omitted
http://www.notmilk.com/52reasons.txt A reason for every week of the year
Perhaps the BEST single reference:
http://www.notmilk.com/a-z.txt
Extensive reasons by ailment/topic
QUOTES
"It's not natural for humans to drink cow's milk. Humans milk is for humans. Cow's milk is for calves. You have no more need of cow's milk than you do rats milk, horses milk or elephant's milk. Cow's milk is a high fat fluid exquisitely designed to turn a 65 lb baby calf into a 400 lb cow. That's what cow's milk is for!" --Dr Michael Klaper MD
"I no longer recommend dairy products after the age of 2 years. Other calcium sources offer many advantages that dairy products do not have." --Dr. Benjamin Spock
OTHER BAD NEWS SUBSTANCES
http://www.dorway.com aspartame (Equal/Nutrasweet) This fake sweetener is not an effective diet aid and it was NEVER proven to be safe. Think 92 FDA complied symptoms (including death see http://www.dorway.com/badnews.html).
http://www.truthinlabeling.org MSG this flavor enhancer kissing-cousin mind-blower to aspartame has 30 different names. Aspartame was used in the testing placebos BEFORE it was legal (see http://www.dorway.com/msg.txt).
Dave Rietz
dorietz@awod.com
July 2002
http://www.notmilk.com/milkinfo.txt
Dairy Products - The Facts
By Dave Rietz
Webmaster www.notmilk.com
7-6-2
Yes... milk is Mother Nature's "perfect food" ...for a calf... until it is weaned.
Everything you know about cow's milk and dairy is probably part of a Dairy industry MYTH.
Cow's milk is an unhealthy fluid from diseased animals that contains a wide range of dangerous and disease-causing substances that have a cumulative negative effect on all who consume it.
MILK'S BASIC CONTENTS
*ALL* cow's milk (regular and 'organic') has 59 active hormones, scores of allergens, fat and cholesterol.
Most cow's milk has measurable quantities of herbicides, pesticides, dioxins (up to 200 times the safe levels), up to 52 powerful antibiotics (perhaps 53, with LS-50), blood, pus, feces, bacteria and viruses. (Cow's milk can have traces of anything the cow ate... including such things as radioactive fallout from nuke testing ... (the 50's strontium-90 problem).
LEADING CAUSES OF DEATH IN AMERICA
http://webapp.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus.html (1998)
Rank Total Description
1 724,859 Heart Disease (think fats/cholesterol: meat/dairy)
2 541,532 Malignant Neoplasms (cancer: think toxins/milk/dairy)
2a 250,000 Medical system (drugs/etc. think ignorance/incompetence)
3 158,448 Cerebro-vascular (think meat milk and dairy)
4 112,584 Bronchitis Emphysema Asthma (think toxins/milk/dairy)
5 97,835 Unintentional Injuries and Adverse Effects
6 91,871 Pneumonia & Influenza (think weak immune systems and
mucus)
7 64,751 Diabetes (think milk/dairy)
7a 40,000+ Highway slaughter (men, women and children)
8 30,575 Suicide (think behavioral problems)
9 26,182 Nephritis (Bright's disease: inflammation of the
kidneys)
10 25,192 Liver Disease (think alcohol and other toxins)
(2a and 7a were added for completeness)
(note: Number 13 on the CDC list is -18,272 Homicide & Legal Intervention-. It is curious that the CDC would readily list law enforcement and homicides... and not the 250,000 deaths caused by the medical system!)
CANCER FUEL
Of those 59 hormones one is a powerful GROWTH hormone called Insulin- like Growth Factor ONE (IGF-1). By a freak of nature it is identical in cows and humans. Consider this hormone to be a "fuel cell" for any cancer... (the medical world says IGF-1 is a key factor in the rapid growth and proliferation of breast, prostate and colon cancers, and we suspect that most likely it will be found to promote ALL cancers).
IGF-1 is a normal part of ALL milk... the newborn is SUPPOSED to grow quickly! What makes the 50% of obese American consumers think they need MORE growth? Consumers don't think anything about it because they do not have a clue to the problem... nor do most of our doctors.
(See http://www.notmilk.com/igf1time.txt for a time line)
QUANTITY
Each bite of hard cheese has TEN TIMES whatever was in that sip of milk... because it takes ten pounds of milk to make one pound of cheese. Each bite of ice cream has 12 times ... and every swipe of butter 21 times whatever is contained in the fat molecules in a sip of milk.
MONSANTO AND rbGH (Posilac)
Monsanto Chemical Co., maker of fine poisons such as DDT, agent orange, Roundup and more... spent around half a billion dollars inventing a shot to inject into cows... to force a cow to produce MORE milk (for an already glutted taxpayer subsidized market).
Unfortunately, they created *FIVE* errors in their Frankenstein Posilac (rbGH) shot that direly affected all test animals... but that important report (Richard, Odaglia & Deslex, 1989) has been hidden from everyone under Clinton's Trade Secrets act. The Canadians read enough of this report (before it was stolen) to reject rbGH for their country.
Monsanto's Posilac creates additional IGF-1 in milk: up to 80% more.
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) insists that IGF-1 is destroyed in the stomach. If that were true, the FDA has proven that breast feeding cannot work. Common sense says their "finding" is ridiculous because this growth factor DOES make the baby calf grow (rapidly, as mother natured intended). Visit the Dairy Education Board at http://www.notmilk.com/deb/100399.html to review a DAIRY study that confirms what the FDA has lied about this for years.
IGF-1 INCREASES
This study involved two groups. One group consuming 12 ounces of milk a day and the other consuming the USDA recommended allowance of 24 ounces (three cups). This report notes that the participants consuming 12 ounces more milk per day... HAD A 10% RISE IN IGF-1 IN THEIR BLOOD SERUM! Now, consider that PER DAY, from ALL sources, the typical milk/dairy consumer ingests approximately 39% of daily diet from dairy... and that 10% increase becomes the "tip of the iceberg". We have NO idea of the non-dairy versus full-dairy difference but considering cancer rates... it has to be significant.
FAT
Whole milk 49% of the calories are from fat.
"2%" milk 35% of the calories are from fat.
Cheddar cheese 74% of the calories are from fat.
Butter 100% of the calories are from fat.
Most folks suspect that butter is all fat. Most folks have no concept of the just how much fat is in the rest of milk and dairy. Perhaps the 54% of Americans who are obese need to comprehend that milk, ice cream, cheeses, yogurts, and all the OTHER products that use milk derivatives (casein, whey, lactose, colostrum) are most likely a significant cause for their weight and health problem.
CALCIUM
Calcium? Where do the COWS get calcium for their big bones? Yes... from plants! The calcium they consume from plants has a large amount of magnesium... necessary for the body to absorb and USE the calcium.
The calcium in cow's milk is basically useless because it has insufficient magnesium content (those nations with the highest amount of milk/dairy consumption also have the highest rates of osteoporosis. Proof? How about a controlled study of 78,000 nurses over a period of 12 years?
Read more about it at:
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/030799.html Article on the 78,000 nurse study
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/092098.html CALCIUM AND BONE DISEASE
http://www.notmilk.com/badbones.html WHO GETS BONE DISEASE?
http://www.notmilk.com/bonehead.txt CRIPPLING BONEHEADS
http://www.notmilk.com/calcium/index.html Consolidated info
Cows milk has three times the calcium as does human breast milk. No matter, neither are very usable because in order to be absorbed and used their MUST be an equal quantity of MAGNESIUM (as exists in the greens that cows eat to get all the calcium they need for their big bones). Milk has only enough magnesium to absorb around 11% (33mg per cup) of calcium.
Per the USDA 8 ounces (one cup) of cows milk contains:
Calcium, Ca mg 291.336
Magnesium, Mg mg 32.794
The USDA recommends 1200mg of calcium per day. The USDA recommended three cups of milk a day only have 900mg of calcium. Some argue that only 1/3 of the magnesium is necessary. Mother nature seems to suggest it should be one to one. If the ratio for proper absorption were 1/3 magnesium to one calcium then no more than 300mg of that 900mg of calcium is usable. If, in fact, it is a one to one ratio... only 98.38mg of calcium is usable.
It is not a matter of how much calcium one ingests... but how much one does not lose.
PROTEIN
Milk can be thought of as "liquid meat" because of its high protein content which, in concert with other proteins, may actually LEACH calcium from the body. Countries that consume high protein diets (meat, milk and dairy) have the highest rates of osteoporosis.
THE 'WHOLESOME' PROTEIN MYTH
87% of milk is water. That makes it VERY expensive water.
Broken down into its basic groups... WHOLE MILK is:
WATER FAT CASEIN OTHER PROTEIN
87% 3.25% 4% 1% 4.75
(note: that is 3.25% "milkfat" which includes the 87% water.)
80% of the protein in milk is casein. Casein is a powerful binder... a
polymer used to make plastics... and a glue that is better used to make
sturdy furniture or hold beer bottle labels in place. It is in
thousands of processed foods as a binder... as "something" caseinate.
Casein is a powerful allergen... a histamine that creates lots of
mucus. The only medicine in Olympic athlete Flo-Jo's body was Benedryl,
a power antihistamine she took to combat her last meal... pizza.
For the whole Flo-Jo story:
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/092198.html,
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/111598.html and
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/112398.html for the whole story.
BACTERIA
Cow's milk is allowed to have feces in it. This is a major source for bacteria. Milk is typically pasteurized more than once before it gets to your table... each time for only 15 seconds at 162 degrees Fahrenheit.
To sanitize water one is told to boil it (212 degrees F) for several minutes. That is a tremendous disparity, isn't it!
Keep in mind that at room temperature the number of bacteria in milk DOUBLE around every 20 minutes. No wonder milk turns rotten very quickly.
PUS
ONE cubic centimeter (cc) of commercial cow's milk is allowed to have up to 750,000 somatic cells (common name is "PUS") and 20,000 live bacteria... before it is kept off the market.
That amounts to a whopping 20 million live squiggly bacteria and up to 750 MILLION pus cells per liter (bit more than a quart).
1 cup = 236.5882cc 177,441,150 pus cells ~ 4,731,600 bacteria
24 oz (3 glasses) = 532,323,450 pus cells ~ 14,220,000 bacteria
(the "recommended" daily intake)
The EU and the Canadians allow for a less "tasty" 400,000,000 pus cells per liter.
Typically these levels are lower... but they COULD reach these levels and still get to YOUR table.
CHOLESTEROL
The cholesterol content of those three glasses of milk is equal to what one would get from 53 slices of bacon. Do you know of any doctor who recommends that much bacon per day?
KOSHER
Is cow's milk and dairy "Kosher"? Consider this:
"D-3 always is derived from an animal. The sunlight reaction that converts 7-dehydrocholesterol to vitamin D-3 is a 'pure' chemical reaction that occurs in your skin in certain cells."
"The provitamin known as 7-dehydrocholesterol is extracted and isolated from the skins of mammals and purified." (Marian Herbert of the Vitamin D Workshop U of C)
Vitamin D-3 can come from four different sources:
Pig skin, sheep skin, raw fish liver, and pig brains. Most of the time, Vitamin D-3 is extracted from pig skin and sold to dairy processors.
Short answer to "is milk kosher" - probably not.
OTHER 'STUFF'
Fat and cholesterol. Lots of it. Per the dairy influenced USDA "food pyramid" all milk, dairy and meats should represent no more than 8% of the diet. Statistically, by volume of sales in a nation of 281 million Americans, it works out to almost 40% of the diet for MILK AND DAIRY.. without the meat.
The milk of each of the over 4,700 mammals on earth is formulated specifically for that species. There are special lactoferrins and immunoglobulins (cow specific immunizing stuff) that in humans serve as allergens.
LEUKEMIA
According to Hoards Dairyman (Volume 147, number 4)... 89% of America's dairy herds have the leukemia virus. (more at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/835)
DIABETES
The protein lactalbumin, has been identified as a key factor in diabetes (and a major reason for NOT giving cows milk to infants).
CROHN'S DISEASE
Mycobacterium paratuberculosis causes a bovine disease called "Johne's."
Cows diagnosed with Johne's Disease have diarrhea, and heavy fecal shedding of bacteria. This bacteria becomes cultured in milk, and is not destroyed by pasteurization. Occasionally, the milk-borne bacteria will begin to grow in the human host, and the results are irritable bowel syndrome and Crohn's Disease.
MAD COW DISEASE
There may also be prions (pronounced PREons) in the milk and meat. This is crystalline substance that acts like a virus... with an "incubation" period of from 5 to 30 years. The end result is MAD COW DISEASE!
HOMOGENIZATION
Large fat molecules cannot get through the intestinal wall into the bloodstream. The cream no longer rises... because homogenization breaks up those large molecules into small ones that DO get into the bloodstream! This becomes an expressway for any fat-borne toxins (lead, dioxin's, etc.) into your (otherwise) most protected organs.
CUMULATIVE EFFECTS
How does this impact humans who consume cow's milk and dairy? Obesity (over 50% of Americans and rising), heart disease, cancer, allergies, digestive problems, diabetes, asthma, desensitization to antibiotics, behavioral problems, and the constant ingestion of dioxin's, herbicides, pesticides (and anything else the cow eats that is not good for any critter), that winds up getting stored in HUMAN fat... is not healthy by any measure.
Those who resist believing the truth should understand that MOST of the world's population CANNOT tolerate the lactose in cow's milk. Up to 95% of the black population, around 53% of the Hispanics, etc.) So much for cow's milk being "natures perfect food" for humans! Mother nature knows better.
Common sense question: Where was this massive "milk is a must" before refrigeration, pasteurization and mass transportation? Back when cows gave only 1-4 pounds a day it was quickly made into BUTTER and cheese! Now that those same cows have been tweaked and shot-up with Posilac to produce up to 55 or more pounds of milk per day... almost all year long... it is suddenly (after many thousands of years) a daily "staple". NOT!
POLLUTION
There are around 9.2 million dairy cows in the United states. Each dairy cow ingests around 330 pounds of feed (perhaps 50 pounds) and water (around 280 pounds or 33 gallons) per day. Allowing for the best dairy production of 55 pounds of milk per day (over ten times what mother nature designed the cow to produce) that means that what remains becomes "slurry".
That means around 275 pound of urine and feces per day... per cow, for a daily total of 2.53 BILLION pounds of pollution. Per year... that amounts to around 923 billion pounds of UNTREATED pollution entering our streams, rivers, lakes... and drinking water systems.
Cows are hot-blooded mammals. Like all other mammals they pass gas. Somewhat like elephants their compartmented digestive system is rather inefficient... which leads to the creation of MORE gas. During a Discovery Channel documentary on elephants a parting quip was that the average adult elephant passes enough methane gas per day to run a car about 20 miles.
Cows are not much better. The English New Scientist (page 5 -31.8.96) mentions that cattle produce around 48 kilograms (105 pounds) of methane each per year and that more bubbles out of the animals' manure. Dairy cows eat more because they produce milk. With 9.2 million dairy cows times a minimum of 100 pounds of methane gas per year... that amounts almost a billion pounds of methane gas released into the atmosphere each year. With around 100 million beef cattle... pigs, sheep, and other "factory farmed" animals it should not be difficult to fathom the extent of this problem.
This means that "Beef is a greenhouse-intensive food" and a major cause of global warming (with dairy a significant part of the problem).
Another major point is:
"Milk is a very strong pollutant: it is about 400 times more polluting than untreated sewage. To put it another way, 1,000 gallons of milk has the same polluting potential as the untreated sewage from a town of 7,000 people." Morlais Owen. Chief Scientist for Welsh Water. North Wales Weekly News. 24.3.88.
SOME QUESTIONS ANSWERED
Q: What is WHEY?
A: Whey results when the FAT and CASEIN are removed from milk.
In making cheese, the curds become the cheese.
Whey's main components are bovine serum albumin and lactalbumin.
There are other hormones contained in whey.
Q: What happens to the:
59 hormones, scores of allergens herbicides, pesticides, dioxins
up to 52 antibiotics
When made into cheese?
A: Everything gets concentrated.
When made into butter?
A: The allergens get lost: but the dioxin's and
pesticides and antibiotics remain in the fat.
In the digestive system?
A: Steroid hormones survive, as do dioxins and antibiotics.
In homogenized milk, protein hormones survive... depending upon the
gastric pH, some protein hormones in cheese survive, but not all...
eleven steroid hormones survive.
AND WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?
Eventually, everything is broken down, but not before the chemical messengers (hormones) "deliver their message."
Each of those hormones and proteins acts differently and has different rates of degradation. BOTTOM LINE... they all survive to a certain degree... and the effects are cumulative.
OTHER HEATH-TRASHING SUBSTANCES IN COW'S MILK
Whey: Blood proteins. Bovine serum lactalbumin has been identified as a trigger for diabetes and other autoimmune diseases.
Lactose: Two sugars. Glucose and galactose. Galactose has been indentified as a trigger for glaucoma. There are several columns that cover lactose (covering galactose and galactosemia):
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/090599.txt Dr. Gordon: Heart Disease
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/629 Lactose is dangerous
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/453 Ben's heart
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/396 Female Cancers
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/378 Lactose intolerance
Colostrum (cow's first milk): Loaded with hormones, particularly IGF-I, along with loads of immunizing agents for COW DISEASES.
Answers courtesy of the NOTMILKMAN. (notmilkman@notmilk.com)
MILK...What a surprise!
Read what a NOTMILK guest book respondent said:
http://www.notmilk.com/gbooktalk.txt
For more of the WHOLE truth... visit:
For all past newsletters visit with a wealth of information:
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/column.html
and for the Daily Squirts of NOTMILK wisdom...
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/squirts.html
Diabetics please read http://www.notmilk.com/deb/011099.html
Read up on "mad cow disease"? Visit
http://www.milkgate.com for what may well be mankind's NEXT plague.
http://www.notmilk.com/milkinfo.txt my 2400 word overview (this file)
http://www.notmilk.com/wholemilk.txt USDA facts, and what they omitted
http://www.notmilk.com/52reasons.txt A reason for every week of the year
Perhaps the BEST single reference:
http://www.notmilk.com/a-z.txt
Extensive reasons by ailment/topic
QUOTES
"It's not natural for humans to drink cow's milk. Humans milk is for humans. Cow's milk is for calves. You have no more need of cow's milk than you do rats milk, horses milk or elephant's milk. Cow's milk is a high fat fluid exquisitely designed to turn a 65 lb baby calf into a 400 lb cow. That's what cow's milk is for!" --Dr Michael Klaper MD
"I no longer recommend dairy products after the age of 2 years. Other calcium sources offer many advantages that dairy products do not have." --Dr. Benjamin Spock
OTHER BAD NEWS SUBSTANCES
http://www.dorway.com aspartame (Equal/Nutrasweet) This fake sweetener is not an effective diet aid and it was NEVER proven to be safe. Think 92 FDA complied symptoms (including death see http://www.dorway.com/badnews.html).
http://www.truthinlabeling.org MSG this flavor enhancer kissing-cousin mind-blower to aspartame has 30 different names. Aspartame was used in the testing placebos BEFORE it was legal (see http://www.dorway.com/msg.txt).
Dave Rietz
dorietz@awod.com
July 2002
http://www.notmilk.com/milkinfo.txt
This stuff is supposed to be the best ice cream in the world according to some sources. Oprah said she swears by it. I use to eat it when I was growing up in Cincinnati, but it is not available outside of the Ohio area aside from a few Kroger own supermarket chains in a few other cities.
I'm not normally a hater but DeSire and Jo ya'll are really crushing my spirit right now
Ok well is there any "international" type ice cream that you ladies could recommend that is willing to cross the mason dixon line for us northern folks?
Ok well is there any "international" type ice cream that you ladies could recommend that is willing to cross the mason dixon line for us northern folks?
I'm not normally a hater but DeSire and Jo ya'll are really crushing my spirit right now
Ok well is there any "international" type ice cream that you ladies could recommend that is willing to cross the mason dixon line for us northern folks?
shit imagine how i feel down here
LoneStar29
Banned
shit imagine how i feel down here
They don't even have ice cream trucks where IK's at
St.Clair and Lansdowne
I'm punching it into my cellphone GPS dohicky... ahhh i know where that is
for some strange reason I feel like getting some toxic milk by-products in my system, thanks for the warning Bigirl but its "milky" and ohh so "creamy" toxic chemicals I can't fight it, its like crack
I'm not normally a hater but DeSire and Jo ya'll are really crushing my spirit right now
Ok well is there any "international" type ice cream that you ladies could recommend that is willing to cross the mason dixon line for us northern folks?
hagen daz?...sounds foreign...u guys might have it...not bad ice cream
speaking of coffee i finally tried a mccafe mocha...shit was nasty!
They don't even have ice cream trucks where IK's at
shaddap star
we got this mofo that comes when the weather is all fucked up and he already be out of everything when you do decide u wanna get something..
IK: can i get ummm ahh praline and cream on cone please?
Icecream man: uhh no i dont have any of that any more
IK: ok cool no prob can i get a cookies and cream cone then?
Icecream man: no no none of that one either...
IK:* feelin frustrated*..... you do have cookie dough though??
Icecream man:*scratches behind head*........no i need to order some next week.
IK:::
fuck it man lemme get two ice cream sandwichesIcecream man: ohhh ughh i only have one left..there ya go..
IK: (walks off...fuckin cuntnugget)
shit is ridic
Got to enjoy the simple pleasures in life!
I think EDY's is Breyers out here on the west coast. I'm a fan of their Rocky Road
I tried the Starbucks Ice cream and it was just ok to me.
Dreyer's not Breyer's
hagen daz?...sounds foreign...u guys might have it...not bad ice cream
speaking of coffee i finally tried a mccafe mocha...shit was nasty!
Hahaha i'm just teasing yeah we have that here
shaddap star
we got this mofo that comes when the weather is all fucked up and he already be out of everything when you do decide u wanna get something..
IK: can i get ummm ahh praline and cream on cone please?
Icecream man: uhh no i dont have any of that any more
IK: ok cool no prob can i get a cookies and cream cone then?
Icecream man: no no none of that one either...
IK:* feelin frustrated*..... you do have cookie dough though??
Icecream man:*scratches behind head*........no i need to order some next week.
IK:::
Icecream man: ohhh ughh i only have one left..there ya go..
IK: (walks off...fuckin cuntnugget)
shit is ridic
Dreyer's not Breyer's
Yeah...LOL I meant Dreyers..sorry..^^^thats exactly the kind I like!
Oh shit nigga. Birthday Cake is my ice cream.
Dang..........
shaddap star
we got this mofo that comes when the weather is all fucked up and he already be out of everything when you do decide u wanna get something..
IK: can i get ummm ahh praline and cream on cone please?
Icecream man: uhh no i dont have any of that any more
IK: ok cool no prob can i get a cookies and cream cone then?
Icecream man: no no none of that one either...
IK:* feelin frustrated*..... you do have cookie dough though??
Icecream man:*scratches behind head*........no i need to order some next week.
IK:::
Icecream man: ohhh ughh i only have one left..there ya go..
IK: (walks off...fuckin cuntnugget)
shit is ridic
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