Slim Thug says he doesn’t agree with women suing their abusers if they don’t speak up when it happens. “it should be a time limit”
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Shit gets missed because we are on the internet and everybody wants a quick punchline response instead of realizing that some things need to be broken down and discussed at length.
I would say it's relative to who was killed and why/how. Keeping it in the lane of rape/ sexual assault, harming/killing women and children carry a similar stigma. If you found out someone is a serial killer, you aren't looking at them the same. If you found out the person was tortured to death, you view it differently than the typical murder.
People are sent to prison falsely regularly and people who are guilty get off. Does that mean we should get rid of the Justice system or people should only be convicted in cases with multiple witnesses or recordings?
Do you give Jeffrey Epstein the same benefit of the doubt? Cosby didn't need to rape them all. If it happened to one, that was one to many. Do I believe the drug he used was the party drug of that time. Yes, but I don't believe every woman was lying and the rumor was circulating for years. Sometimes the people you hold in high esteem do fucked up shit. Even if you believe Cosby didn't rape anyone, that is one person wrongly convicted.
That's my point. Crimes in general shouldn't have a statue of limitation. Obviously, if what occurred is no longer considered a crime that is different.
Are Hugh Hefner and Rick James going to jail? Are their estates being sued and losing without evidence? Next you'll say the person is too old to go to prison. Even if they are alive, it's not likely either would say I raped Jane. The truth is if you aren't taken to court for a alleged crime most people don't really care. In the circumstances that people do, it's because it was likely an unspoken truth that alot of people knew or those in the know were aware of the person's crimes.
Bit of a treacherous tight rope to walk, though I understand the attempt at principle but the first is lost at the second. It's a fucked up world.
I don’t think He not talking about abused women specifically. He’s talking about abuse accusations should be done in a time period where there’s evidence to prove it.
This seems to be different though. He’s saying people shouldn’t be able to sue not that people shouldnt be convicted of murder.
The issue here and the reason people don’t want to hear this is because for one people don’t like Puff and for two we are suppose to sympathize with the victim.
I’m on the fence because while I don’t like Puff…..I have to ask how much of this shit was driven by money?
Cassie accused him of some heinous acts. So while I don’t agree there should be a time limit for people to speak up? I do think there should be one for monetary gain.
The thing y’all don’t know about is these dudes get accused of this shit all the time. That’s why Slim Thug has this opinion. He knows that side of the game where money hungry women come out the woodwork accusing you of something you didn’t do.
I can believe Puff did some sick shit. To what level? Not sure but how sick could it be for you to take some money and shut up about it?
I’m on the fence because while I don’t like Puff…..I have to ask how much of this shit was driven by money?
Cassie accused him of some heinous acts. So while I don’t agree there should be a time limit for people to speak up? I do think there should be one for monetary gain.
The thing y’all don’t know about is these dudes get accused of this shit all the time. That’s why Slim Thug has this opinion. He knows that side of the game where money hungry women come out the woodwork accusing you of something you didn’t do.
I can believe Puff did some sick shit. To what level? Not sure but how sick could it be for you to take some money and shut up about it?
For him to settle as quick as he did she must’ve had proof in 4k. Females can dig up some shit on you 5 minutes within meeting you for as long as she was with Puff? She probably got evidence big as the yellow pages.
Even in that instance, i don't care. If the person committed a crime, they should deal with the consequences. I'm not the victim, so who am I do say how the person should be compensated for what was done to them.
Sexual assault is different, but we don't say that with other crimes or accidents. If an airplane pilot is drunk and someone is hurt or killed as a result, most people aren't going to say I want that person to go to jail. People are going to say you should sue the airline.
I'm not saying all women are telling the truth. I'm only talking about actual victims. Also keep in mind rich people and celebrities are a minority. Most people are being sexual assaulted by regular people, so there is no money to get. People are asking for jail time on average. Remove celebrities and you probably don't even see rich people being taken to court for money as often.
Even if your top issue is asking for money with for example Bill Cosby, he ultimately went to jail for his alleged crimes.
Black women used this when white women started to weaponized #MeToo during the prime of that movement and I agree with it.
But this situation is very different. Puff is low key known as a scheming ass dude in the industry. He's a two timing guy for years and his new artists go AWOL when he's finished making money from then.
Fredrick from making the band said puff made $12 million from the group and made them split $500,000 between them
Yeah, she not only brought up abuse, but other things that have nothing to do with that. She didn't drop that specific thing about Suge Knight for nothing. That was timed knowing allegations against him concerning Keefe D and SSC. Imagine the other things she may know or heard surrounding that east and west coast beef era? Then things like Kid Cudi.
He settled because that was probably the tip of the iceberg of other things she could drop.
Yeah that Suge tidbit was some little sneaky play on her part. IT was calculated. I missed it did she always sign a NDA?
I think this is the problem with people wanting attention, no matter if it's good or bad. I want women to feel comfortable coming forward if they're assaulted, but I also don't want women to feel that coming forward will get them some temporary fame. Like people that emo post online to get people to ask them what's wrong, instead of going to a therapist to discuss their issues.
Yeah it was also sneaking doing it around the death of Kim Porter too. The lawyers laid this out real well. That is the other thing too. A regular person is not going to have the legal power of someone like Cassie had. She signed a NDA, but it is vague in this article with who, when and where.
If You Want To Have Sex With A Celeb, You May Have To Sign This First
“I thought [the NDA] was really creepy. If he's asking for that, like how much more weird could it get?”
You wanna come to my place? he asked.
Of course I’m going to go to his place, she thought.
Cassie and her friend got in his car, and he drove them a few miles to his house. It was huge and modern on the outside, and on the inside, it looked like an upscale bachelor pad: furnished with black leather couches and adorned with superhero posters and various art.
He and his friends began smoking weed, and he did some lines of coke with Cassie’s friend.
“He seemed really into her, all over her, talking with her, flirting with her,” she told me in a phone interview in April. Cassie said she was really drunk by this time, but she had turned down the cocaine.
Later that night, Cassie’s friend said, “I just really want to go home.” She called an Uber, and Cassie planned on going with her. “I’m not going to ruin the night for you. Just stay,” her friend told her.
So Cassie stayed. And the handsome, tanned actor’s attention turned to her.
Do you want to go upstairs? he asked her.
She said yes.
They smoked more weed, and then he offered her coke again. Although she didn’t like cocaine, as the movie star’s strikingly blue eyes gazed at her expectantly, she found herself agreeing.
I’ll just do a few lines, she said.
You seem really nice, and I really like you, she remembered him saying next.
Well, you were kind of all over my friend before, so I didn’t think you liked me, she said she replied.
No, I really like you. Do you wanna make out?
OK, she said.
I'm gonna have to have you sign this piece of paper first, he said, handing her a nondisclosure agreement on formal letterhead.
Cassie said she remembered asking, What the hell is this?
It’s just standard. Everybody asks for them. It’s just to make sure you don’t talk about anything that happened tonight and talk about it to the press, he said.
The two-page NDA also stipulated that she couldn’t talk about the agreement itself.
“I thought it was weird he asked for it after we’d been doing drugs and getting wasted, like, 'This is the moment you ask for an NDA?'” she told me.
“I tried to read it, even though I was super wasted, just to try to make sure what it was talking about,” she said. “Then I said, ‘What’s the worst that could happen? I’ll just sign it.’”
It’s hard to determine just how pervasive the use of NDAs is because some of them, like the one Cassie signed, require people to completely deny their existence. The few places people freely talk about them are on anonymous gossip sites or social media pages, like Instagram’s deuxmoi, where I first found out about them, and sex worker message boards.
like i said before in this thread what u said is valid after the metoo movement
this was way before so this is different
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name happens to be Cassie? lol
Yeah it was also sneaking doing it around the death of Kim Porter too. The lawyers laid this out real well. That is the other thing too. A regular person is not going to have the legal power of someone like Cassie had. She signed a NDA, but it is vague in this article with who, when and where.
---------------If You Want To Have Sex With A Celeb, You May Have To Sign This First
“I thought [the NDA] was really creepy. If he's asking for that, like how much more weird could it get?”www.buzzfeednews.com
You wanna come to my place? he asked.
Of course I’m going to go to his place, she thought.
Cassie and her friend got in his car, and he drove them a few miles to his house. It was huge and modern on the outside, and on the inside, it looked like an upscale bachelor pad: furnished with black leather couches and adorned with superhero posters and various art.
He and his friends began smoking weed, and he did some lines of coke with Cassie’s friend.
“He seemed really into her, all over her, talking with her, flirting with her,” she told me in a phone interview in April. Cassie said she was really drunk by this time, but she had turned down the cocaine.
Later that night, Cassie’s friend said, “I just really want to go home.” She called an Uber, and Cassie planned on going with her. “I’m not going to ruin the night for you. Just stay,” her friend told her.
So Cassie stayed. And the handsome, tanned actor’s attention turned to her.
Do you want to go upstairs? he asked her.
She said yes.
They smoked more weed, and then he offered her coke again. Although she didn’t like cocaine, as the movie star’s strikingly blue eyes gazed at her expectantly, she found herself agreeing.
I’ll just do a few lines, she said.
You seem really nice, and I really like you, she remembered him saying next.
Well, you were kind of all over my friend before, so I didn’t think you liked me, she said she replied.
No, I really like you. Do you wanna make out?
OK, she said.
I'm gonna have to have you sign this piece of paper first, he said, handing her a nondisclosure agreement on formal letterhead.
Cassie said she remembered asking, What the hell is this?
It’s just standard. Everybody asks for them. It’s just to make sure you don’t talk about anything that happened tonight and talk about it to the press, he said.
The two-page NDA also stipulated that she couldn’t talk about the agreement itself.
“I thought it was weird he asked for it after we’d been doing drugs and getting wasted, like, 'This is the moment you ask for an NDA?'” she told me.
“I tried to read it, even though I was super wasted, just to try to make sure what it was talking about,” she said. “Then I said, ‘What’s the worst that could happen? I’ll just sign it.’”
It’s hard to determine just how pervasive the use of NDAs is because some of them, like the one Cassie signed, require people to completely deny their existence. The few places people freely talk about them are on anonymous gossip sites or social media pages, like Instagram’s deuxmoi, where I first found out about them, and sex worker message boards.
name happens to be Cassie? lol
I think tall knew exactly what I was saying and for whatever reason he just wanted to say what he said.
Now I do believe women should be able to come forward at whatever age regardless of how much time has passed. I have two daughters and at any age they told me someone assault them I don't care if 40 years had passed. I'm going to be on whoever's ass immediately.
Even after finding out they were cousins......they kept fuckin.....
Shit is weird as fuck but nobody won't ever have a problem with it or say he should be in jail for that shit.
I guess there aren't laws for people that fuck their relatives.
Everyone you mentioned has a HISTORY of shady shit. My sister was raped in her early 20’s by a “male friend”. She’s 56 now and married. If I ran into him mow; would I let it slide?
That old Nigga getting stomped out! I know at least two dozen women who never filed a report: date raped, college, their dad, brother. One of my exes was molested for 7 years by her dad and never said anything until she realized he did it to her little sister too. If society went along with your dumbass mindset; what’s the cutoff? 5, 10, 20 years? What’s the age cutoff? If it happened to a 9-year old girl, she has 10 years to speak up? I post some mean shit, but I DO NOT hate woman; I’m just annoyed by their behaviors. No fucking way I’m down with a statue of limitations on rape, nigga. You Niggas kill me with “Where’s the proof?”
Rick James and Hugh Hefner are dead if the person didn't bring it up while they were living whats the point of bringing it up after? Unless the person in question is trying to get a pay day. The point is the accused should have their day in court just like the accuser. People do lie and a lot of times women lie. As far as your statement that I would say the perosn is "too old to go jail" I don't know what color you are but I'm Black and I know there's no statute of limitations on shit Black people do. I could be laid up on my death bed and white folks find out I did something my ass is going to jail. Old white folks don't go to jail for shit they do for example lying ass Carolyn Bryant.
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What the fuck is a civil suit?
So if you get in a car accident, and you sue, your injuries shouldn't matter, because you got paid?
I tend to agree with you, but in your scenario:
If the person who hit you is a 16 year old and you know they aren't going to do much jail time but their parents are millionaires, you sue them for millions!!!!
Sure you have no legs or a broken neck but at least you are paid.
All that mileage on Cassie's pussy = 100m obviously.
I mean I just wished women would report it right away and not be silent about it to just get paid when they decide to speak up!
Women should want that rapist or abuser off the street ASAP but I guess women care is about is money.
Diddy isn't a saint and while he paid that hush money to cover his tracks because he know he would've lost it all having that shit exposed.
As far as Puffy he's a scumbag, but at the same time Cassie did take the bag. But in general I am against not having a statute of time for certain allegations.Black women used this when white women started to weaponized #MeToo during the prime of that movement and I agree with it.
But this situation is very different. Puff is low key known as a scheming ass dude in the industry. He's a two timing guy for years and his new artists go AWOL when he's finished making money from then.
Fredrick from making the band said puff made $12 million from the group and made them split $500,000 between them
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