Shutdown cost the economy $11 billion, including a permanent $3 billion loss (CBO)

they really are the same, like Coke and Pepsi....

Lol :rolleyes:

I have my criticisms of the Dems but this kind of insistence on their equivalence with Repubs is super lame and easily debunked.

Even from a very basic technocratic/fiscal competence standpoint the data is irrefutable. Dems are far and away superior on nearly every issue that matters -- it's not even close. All Republicans have to offer are tired culture wars, racial dog whistles, xenophobic bullshit and slightly better ROI for the corporate class
 
All this shit for a wall one side says won't work and that the other should know won't work. :smh:
And for some shit Mexico was suppose ta pay for from the beginning. :rolleyes2:

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Is it fair to say that this Trump shutdown has hurt this country far more than whatever "illegal situation" at the border they've been touting?
BTW, This doesn't even take into account the families that have been screwed financially, medically, etc because of the shutdown.
Nor the very real psychological trauma that stuff like this adds to the American psyche. I guarantee you more damaging than the "big bad Mexicans are coming"

Finally, my understanding is crazy may try and do this all over again in a few weeks?
 
This is why the Senate is not going to let this happen again

I think the Repub Senate would let him do anything he wants... but even someone as delusional as he is likely sees that another shutdown is insane so he'll probably go the national emergency route once it becomes clear Dems won't capitulate on this retarded wall thing.
 
I think the Repub Senate would let him do anything he wants... but even someone as delusional as he is likely sees that another shutdown is insane so he'll probably go the national emergency route once it becomes clear Dems won't capitualte on this retarded wall thing.
No the Republicans in the Senate have a breaking point who you think made Trump call off the shut down??? The rich donors.
 
No the Republicans in the Senate have a breaking point who you think made Trump call off the shut down??? The rich donors.

Let's see what happens... Trump is a "win at all costs" type of guy, he will do the dumbest most insane bullshit to make his fever dreams reality. Step 1 will be to spend the next few weeks berating Dems for not playing ball and Step 2 will be declaring a national emergency. There's no other way this plays out imo :cool:
 
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