Should Married Men Have Game?????

Should Married Have Game???

  • Yes

    Votes: 30 40.0%
  • No

    Votes: 2 2.7%
  • All Men Should

    Votes: 43 57.3%

  • Total voters
    75

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Married men need more game than single men..

I can run the same line on 50 different bitches in the street..

A "wife" heard that shit before.

You gotta come with something new and fresh each and every time.

AND it better match up with the shit you said 3 years ago....
 
Is he referring to the corpses driving the mini-vans, having to do yard work on sunday instead of watching the game, and have to go pick curtains out and shit.
 
Married men need more game than single men..

I can run the same line on 50 different bitches in the street..

A "wife" heard that shit before.

You gotta come with something new and fresh each and every time.

AND it better match up with the shit you said 3 years ago....

Every man needs game. Game is for more than getting pussy.

Think about it.

I agree with both statements...:yes:
 
Married men need more game than single men..

I can run the same line on 50 different bitches in the street..

A "wife" heard that shit before.

You gotta come with something new and fresh each and every time.

AND it better match up with the shit you said 3 years ago....

:lol:True...True...
 
its much harder being married/monogamous and keeping
things fresh. dropping some new game on your woman is just like giving her new dick and vice versa
 
A HAPPILY married man whose wife ain't giving him grief has to let the single man's definition of "game" (meaning running bullshit just to get what you want) go because if you say some shit to your WIFE who is up in your grill daily, you will fuck around and get held to promises you may not want to keep. Best bet in a marriage is to be brutally honest. I'm straight up with my wife about everything and if she doesn't like it, she just has to get over it because I make sure my word is my bond. She asks me to do some shit I don't want to do, I tell her NO and let her know why and don't back down ever. If she asks me to do something I don't mind doing, I'll do it. "Game" in a marriage is a long term strategy, cats try that quick hit shit with their wives to pacify her short term and then catch grief long term because a female will come at you with the quickness on some "Remember when you told me in 1997 that we would...?" shit. A WIFE gotta be on your team full time, a jump-off gotta be on your team for a few hours to a few months at best, so you can pretty much say whatever you need to say to keep peace and get sex out of her.

I get criticized by cats because I've said that a wife has to be trained in a way (and NOT the other way around, which is what MOST cats do when they get married). Like Gene said, if you don't have the balls to tell your wife, "It's Sunday, hell nah I ain't hanging window treatments, the game is on.", then you got problems. A DOWN wife won't even ask you to do some shit like that. I had a homey bow out of the SUPERBOWL on me a couple of years ago because his wife wanted to go to some play that night. Damn show ran the entire weekend, but she INSISTED on Superbowl Sunday. To me, that was a test and dude failed MISERABLY. Dude is texting me the whole night asking me for updates and bitching about missing the game. Next thing you know, he's bowing out of the Final Four, NBA Finals, our annual "fellas weekend" (that like 4 or 5 of us have been doing for like 10 years) when all of the married cats would go to Vegas or someplace similar and just kick it for a weekend, fishing trips, golf outings and the entire time, dude complains "quietly" about the shit and lets it continue to happen. He let her run shit like this for almost a year before he snapped on her and ended up looking like the villian. He played a short term game and got short term results. You let your wife know up front from day one what her expectations should be and she'll get used to those expectations and learn to be happy within your comfort zone (females are actually better at adjusting and actually being happy in this situation than men, but men are always the ones trying to do the shit and it ALWAYS ends badly).
 
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a lot of your game flies out the window when you are married,,, i consider myself to have possessed game since i was a teen,,,

when i got married, my game got watered down to be honest with you (even though i kept women on the side),,,

& it was a slight transition for me to bounce my game back strong after i got divorced (even though i still had women right after the split),,,

my point is,,, a man needs game as long he is alive,,, but if you are married, it's not possible for your shit to be as tight as it should be

married game, & single game, are really 2 different things
 
Married men need more game than single men..

I can run the same line on 50 different bitches in the street..

A "wife" heard that shit before.

You gotta come with something new and fresh each and every time.

AND it better match up with the shit you said 3 years ago....

:yes:

Every man needs game. Game is for more than getting pussy.

Think about it.

:yes::yes:

its much harder being married/monogamous and keeping
things fresh. dropping some new game on your woman is just like giving her new dick and vice versa

:yes::yes::yes:

A HAPPILY married man whose wife ain't giving him grief has to let the single man's definition of "game" (meaning running bullshit just to get what you want) go because if you say some shit to your WIFE who is up in your grill daily, you will fuck around and get held to promises you may not want to keep. Best bet in a marriage is to be brutally honest. I'm straight up with my wife about everything and if she doesn't like it, she just has to get over it because I make sure my word is my bond. She asks me to do some shit I don't want to do, I tell her NO and let her know why and don't back down ever. If she asks me to do something I don't mind doing, I'll do it. "Game" in a marriage is a long term strategy, cats try that quick hit shit with their wives to pacify her short term and then catch grief long term because a female will come at you with the quickness on some "Remember when you told me in 1997 that we would...?" shit. A WIFE gotta be on your team full time, a jump-off gotta be on your team for a few hours to a few months at best, so you can pretty much say whatever you need to say to keep peace and get sex out of her.

I get criticized by cats because I've said that a wife has to be trained in a way (and NOT the other way around, which is what MOST cats do when they get married). Like Gene said, if you don't have the balls to tell your wife, "It's Sunday, hell nah I ain't hanging window treatments, the game is on.", then you got problems. A DOWN wife won't even ask you to do some shit like that. I had a homey bow out of the SUPERBOWL on me a couple of years ago because his wife wanted to go to some play that night. Damn show ran the entire weekend, but she INSISTED on Superbowl Sunday. To me, that was a test and dude failed MISERABLY. Dude is texting me the whole night asking me for updates and bitching about missing the game. Next thing you know, he's bowing out of the Final Four, NBA Finals, our annual "fellas weekend" (that like 4 or 5 of us have been doing for like 10 years) when all of the married cats would go to Vegas or someplace similar and just kick it for a weekend, fishing trips, golf outings and the entire time, dude complains "quietly" about the shit and lets it continue to happen. He let her run shit like this for almost a year before he snapped on her and ended up looking like the villian. He played a short term game and got short term results. You let your wife know up front from day one what her expectations should be and she'll get used to those expectations and learn to be happy within your comfort zone (females are actually better at adjusting and actually being happy in this situation than men, but men are always the ones trying to do the shit and it ALWAYS ends badly).

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a lot of your game flies out the window when you are married,,, i consider myself to have possessed game since i was a teen,,,

when i got married, my game got watered down to be honest with you (even though i kept women on the side),,,

& it was a slight transition for me to bounce my game back strong after i got divorced (even though i still had women right after the split),,,

my point is,,, a man needs game as long he is alive,,, but if you are married, it's not possible for your shit to be as tight as it should be

married game, & single game, are really 2 different things

THIS IS AN OPINION
AND ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT KIND OF DUDE YOU ARE.
ALWAYS REMEMBER
MEN DO WHAT THEY WANT
BOYS DO WHAT THEY CAN.


NO DISRESPECT INTENDED:hmm:
 
THIS IS AN OPINION
AND ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT KIND OF DUDE YOU ARE.
ALWAYS REMEMBER
MEN DO WHAT THEY WANT
BOYS DO WHAT THEY CAN.


NO DISRESPECT INTENDED:hmm:
married game really consist of knowing what it takes to keep a peacful & productive household,,, knowing wifey's hot buttons & turn offs, and when to use both,,,

none of that shit really transitions well when you are back in the single world,,, if you ever divorce, you'll find that you've picked up some slightly simpish behavior
 
married game really consist of knowing what it takes to keep a peacful & productive household,,, knowing wifey's hot buttons & turn offs, and when to use both,,,

none of that shit really transitions well when you are back in the single world,,, if you ever divorce, you'll find that you've picked up some slightly simpish behavior

ONCE AGAIN
THAT IS ALL BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE
AND WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND TO BE GAME.
THE NEXT CAT MAY HAVE DONE
OR IS DOING SOME SHIT THAT YOU ARENT AWARE OF OR EVEN UNDERSTAND
IT CAN HAPPEN:eek:.

YOUR ASSESSMENT IS BASED ON WHAT IS CONSIDERED STANDARD UNDERSTANDING OR KNOWLEDGE OF SO CALLED GAME
ONE MANS GAME IS ALWAYS STRONGER OR WEAKER THAN THE NEXT MANS GAME.

IF A MAN ENDS UP WITH SIMPISH BEHAVIOR
THEN HE DIDNT START WITH MUCH GAME IN THE BEGINNING.
 
ONCE AGAIN
THAT IS ALL BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE
AND WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND TO BE GAME.
THE NEXT CAT MAY HAVE DONE
OR IS DOING SOME SHIT THAT YOU ARENT AWARE OF OR EVEN UNDERSTAND
IT CAN HAPPEN:eek:.

YOUR ASSESSMENT IS BASED ON WHAT IS CONSIDERED STANDARD UNDERSTANDING OR KNOWLEDGE OF SO CALLED GAME
ONE MANS GAME IS ALWAYS STRONGER OR WEAKER THAN THE NEXT MANS GAME.

IF A MAN ENDS UP WITH SIMPISH BEHAVIOR
THEN HE DIDNT START WITH MUCH GAME IN THE BEGINNING.
my observations are based on my own experience, as well as many others (men & women),,, as i've said before, your situation is an exception to the married rule these days, and i think that's great

what i mean by simpish behavior is (example),,, i was used to providing for wifey (which is what a married man does),,, so the chick i got with right after my divorce, i was actually coming out of pocket too frequently if we were on a date,,, and the bitch didn't even appreciate the shit in the end,,,

now i seldom pay for shit,,, women have to pay for my time,,, if i noticed my game slipping after the divorce, divorced men with no prior game must be really fucked up
 
married game really consist of knowing what it takes to keep a peacful & productive household,,, knowing wifey's hot buttons & turn offs, and when to use both,,,

none of that shit really transitions well when you are back in the single world,,, if you ever divorce, you'll find that you've picked up some slightly simpish behavior

To me, married game fucks you up if you become single again because the "game" single females respond to is usually some simple-minded bullshit that a cat that has been married for any length of time no longer has patience for. Every cat I know that got divorced said there was an adjustment period because of this. I hate the fuck out of small talk and think that would kill me if I was single again. As a a married man, if I wanna fuck, I say "let's fuck", I don't have the patience to sit up in some dizzy hoes ear pumping small-talk nonsense for hours just for some pussy. My time is more valuable than that to me, but these females expect it. Married cats that have to game and beg their WIVES for sex are simps to me and should either be correcting that situation or making arrangement to make a permanent break from it. Since I won't game and beg my wife for shit, some arbitrary female has NO CHANCE IN HELL of getting "gamed" by me at this point. Cats call spending money simping, well my time is money as well.

Greatest thing I've learned in marriage (and wish I would have known as a single man) as far as sex goes is this...

Devalue the pussy. Push any value it has had to you in the past out of your mind. The less value the pussy has to you, the MORE value your shit will have to her.

Shit is like free trade with China...

What normally happens is that when a female is trying to get with you, she temporarily lowers the value of her "currency" so you can go on shopping sprees and whatnot. You get used to all of this cheap "product" coming your way and next thing you know, your whole pussy "economy" is dependent on this cheap product. You can't afford to produce your own supply of pussy anymore. Your locked in a pussy "trade deficit". All this deficit spending on pussy gives her power over you in other aspects of your life. Next thing you know, she owns you (like China owns us).

The way to avoid this is to devalue ALL pussy. If ALL pussy is of lesser value to you, you can go to the table and renegotiate the terms of your original free "pussy" trade agreement and avoid the deficit.

End result, you get more pussy at a fair and equitable price and don't have to sacrifice your economy in other areas (like SuperBowl parties and trips to Vegas with your boys).

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
Shit is like free trade with China...

What normally happens is that when a female is trying to get with you, she temporarily lowers the value of her "currency" so you can go on shopping sprees and whatnot. You get used to all of this cheap "product" coming your way and next thing you know, your whole pussy "economy" is dependent on this cheap product. You can't afford to produce your own supply of pussy anymore. Your locked in a pussy "trade deficit". All this deficit spending on pussy gives her power over you in other aspects of your life. Next thing you know, she owns you (like China owns us).

The way to avoid this is to devalue ALL pussy. If ALL pussy is of lesser value to you, you can go to the table and renegotiate the terms of your original free "pussy" trade agreement and avoid the deficit.

End result, you get more pussy at a fair and equitable price and don't have to sacrifice your economy in other areas (like SuperBowl parties and trips to Vegas with your boys).

Pussynomics 101! LOL!
 
To me, married game fucks you up if you become single again because the "game" single females respond to is usually some simple-minded bullshit that a cat that has been married for any length of time no longer has patience for. Every cat I know that got divorced said there was an adjustment period because of this. I hate the fuck out of small talk and think that would kill me if I was single again. As a a married man, if I wanna fuck, I say "let's fuck", I don't have the patience to sit up in some dizzy hoes ear pumping small-talk nonsense for hours just for some pussy. My time is more valuable than that to me, but these females expect it. Married cats that have to game and beg their WIVES for sex are simps to me and should either be correcting that situation or making arrangement to make a permanent break from it. Since I won't game and beg my wife for shit, some arbitrary female has NO CHANCE IN HELL of getting "gamed" by me at this point. Cats call spending money simping, well my time is money as well.

Greatest thing I've learned in marriage (and wish I would have known as a single man) as far as sex goes is this...

Devalue the pussy. Push any value it has had to you in the past out of your mind. The less value the pussy has to you, the MORE value your shit will have to her.

Shit is like free trade with China...

What normally happens is that when a female is trying to get with you, she temporarily lowers the value of her "currency" so you can go on shopping sprees and whatnot. You get used to all of this cheap "product" coming your way and next thing you know, your whole pussy "economy" is dependent on this cheap product. You can't afford to produce your own supply of pussy anymore. Your locked in a pussy "trade deficit". All this deficit spending on pussy gives her power over you in other aspects of your life. Next thing you know, she owns you (like China owns us).

The way to avoid this is to devalue ALL pussy. If ALL pussy is of lesser value to you, you can go to the table and renegotiate the terms of your original free "pussy" trade agreement and avoid the deficit.

End result, you get more pussy at a fair and equitable price and don't have to sacrifice your economy in other areas (like SuperBowl parties and trips to Vegas with your boys).

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

:lol::lol::lol: nice break down,,, you called all money:yes:​
 
Devalue the pussy. Push any value it has had to you in the past out of your mind. The less value the pussy has to you, the MORE value your shit will have to her.

Shit is like free trade with China...

What normally happens is that when a female is trying to get with you, she temporarily lowers the value of her "currency" so you can go on shopping sprees and whatnot. You get used to all of this cheap "product" coming your way and next thing you know, your whole pussy "economy" is dependent on this cheap product. You can't afford to produce your own supply of pussy anymore. Your locked in a pussy "trade deficit". All this deficit spending on pussy gives her power over you in other aspects of your life. Next thing you know, she owns you (like China owns us).

The way to avoid this is to devalue ALL pussy. If ALL pussy is of lesser value to you, you can go to the table and renegotiate the terms of your original free "pussy" trade agreement and avoid the deficit.

End result, you get more pussy at a fair and equitable price and don't have to sacrifice your economy in other areas (like SuperBowl parties and trips to Vegas with your boys).

You could've taught those "cracka" slavemasters a thing or two. Treating black human beings as commodities for your personal satisfaction is something you both have in common.
 
newsflash:

WOMEN, WHEN UPON MEETING A MAN, DETERMINE IF SAID MAN WILL FUCK IN ABOUT 3-5 SECONDS.​

the only "game" that is laid down is HER allowing YOU to think you're getting somewhere-when she's decided if you'll get the pussy long ago.

i've seen more niccas talk their way OUT of pussy than into pussy.

my best advice:

1. introduce yourself to a woman like a man... respecting her, looking her right into the eyes, and letting her know THRU YOUR LOOKS, that you don't play games.

2. STFU and let her talk herself out of her panties.

pimps run "game." men practice patience.

and i see a bunch of niccas like the ones above ^^^^^ realizing that time is money: the same shit i been preaching to you young niccas for years.
 
Greatest thing I've learned in marriage (and wish I would have known as a single man) as far as sex goes is this...

Devalue the pussy. Push any value it has had to you in the past out of your mind. The less value the pussy has to you, the MORE value your shit will have to her.

...closed :yes:
 
pimps run "game." men practice patience.

i think some of you have game confused,,, many people think game is saying a few corny lines to a woman so she will sleep with you,,, that's not what game is at all

game is the art of what, when, why & how to react to a woman,,, or not to react at all,,, game is like management,,, you can be honest with a woman, and still have game
 
i think some of you have game confused,,, many people think game is saying a few corny lines to a woman so she will sleep with you,,, that's not what game is at all

game is the art of what, when, why & how to react to a woman,,, or not to react at all,,, game is like management,,, you can be honest with a woman, and still have game

the ultimate game = being TOTALLY honest with women at all times.

when you're totally & brutally honest with them, their level of respect will either get you LOTS of pussy or NO pussy.

sidepiece: max, we going out tonight?
max: nope. my girl wants me home with her tonight.
sidepiece: WTF, nicca... you ain't never got time for me.
max: you see me when you see me. i done already told you... i ain't leaving my girl. learn your role, play your role, or this shit is over. fuck it.
sidepiece: damn nicca... it's like that?
max: look, i gotta go. you KNOW i don't fuck around on weeknights this late. you wanna deal with me, you know the number. later.

when you don't play the games, they usually don't or will hesitate to play them cause they know you'll drop them.

but as i said, women know if they're gonna give you the pussy one day right after they meet you. the rest of the game most niccas think they're "spitting" is mostly bullshit to her.

as my barber says, "if you can make her laugh, you can make her cry."
 
Your game better improve after your married. Take it from me might not be married forever....:lol:
 
No They Are Not Two DIFFERENT THINGS, They Are One In The Same Men Are Not Supposed To Let These Women Rule Them (simp Shit). I Tell Wifey That I Will Do What The Fuck I Want Until My Eyes Close...real Talk....
 
Women, ESPECIALLY married women, have been using sex as a negotiation and coercion tool forever, it's nothing new. My wife has married friends that tell her all the time she should withhold sex to get me to do as she says, but she knows it's pointless because the shit has never and will never work on me. I'll go into straight up "monk mode" on her ass (last time she cut me off for any amount of time, I used the spare time and energy to teach myself website design and now make money off of it).

You could've taught those "cracka" slavemasters a thing or two. Treating black human beings as commodities for your personal satisfaction is something you both have in common.

Ahhh, shut yer fuckin' whinin' up Blunt:lol::lol::lol::lol:

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newsflash:

WOMEN, WHEN UPON MEETING A MAN, DETERMINE IF SAID MAN WILL FUCK IN ABOUT 3-5 SECONDS.​

the only "game" that is laid down is HER allowing YOU to think you're getting somewhere-when she's decided if you'll get the pussy long ago.

i've seen more niccas talk their way OUT of pussy than into pussy.

my best advice:

1. introduce yourself to a woman like a man... respecting her, looking her right into the eyes, and letting her know THRU YOUR LOOKS, that you don't play games.

2. STFU and let her talk herself out of her panties.

pimps run "game." men practice patience.

and i see a bunch of niccas like the ones above ^^^^^ realizing that time is money: the same shit i been preaching to you young niccas for years.

I used to tell my boy that all the time...

When a female sits down to "talk" to you, she isn't letting you talk your way INTO her bed, she's giving you a chance to talk your way OUT of it.
 
To me, married game fucks you up if you become single again because the "game" single females respond to is usually some simple-minded bullshit that a cat that has been married for any length of time no longer has patience for. Every cat I know that got divorced said there was an adjustment period because of this. I hate the fuck out of small talk and think that would kill me if I was single again. As a a married man, if I wanna fuck, I say "let's fuck", I don't have the patience to sit up in some dizzy hoes ear pumping small-talk nonsense for hours just for some pussy. My time is more valuable than that to me, but these females expect it. Married cats that have to game and beg their WIVES for sex are simps to me and should either be correcting that situation or making arrangement to make a permanent break from it. Since I won't game and beg my wife for shit, some arbitrary female has NO CHANCE IN HELL of getting "gamed" by me at this point. Cats call spending money simping, well my time is money as well.

Greatest thing I've learned in marriage (and wish I would have known as a single man) as far as sex goes is this...

Devalue the pussy. Push any value it has had to you in the past out of your mind. The less value the pussy has to you, the MORE value your shit will have to her.

Shit is like free trade with China...

What normally happens is that when a female is trying to get with you, she temporarily lowers the value of her "currency" so you can go on shopping sprees and whatnot. You get used to all of this cheap "product" coming your way and next thing you know, your whole pussy "economy" is dependent on this cheap product. You can't afford to produce your own supply of pussy anymore. Your locked in a pussy "trade deficit". All this deficit spending on pussy gives her power over you in other aspects of your life. Next thing you know, she owns you (like China owns us).

The way to avoid this is to devalue ALL pussy. If ALL pussy is of lesser value to you, you can go to the table and renegotiate the terms of your original free "pussy" trade agreement and avoid the deficit.

End result, you get more pussy at a fair and equitable price and don't have to sacrifice your economy in other areas (like SuperBowl parties and trips to Vegas with your boys).

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

BEAUTIFUL BREAK DOWN:lol:


i think some of you have game confused,,, many people think game is saying a few corny lines to a woman so she will sleep with you,,, that's not what game is at all

game is the art of what, when, why & how to react to a woman,,, or not to react at all,,, game is like management,,, you can be honest with a woman, and still have game

EXACTLY.........
SOME OF THESE CATS......
STAY GIVIN THE GAME A BLACK EYE !:smh:

I used to tell my boy that all the time...

When a female sits down to "talk" to you, she isn't letting you talk your way INTO her bed, she's giving you a chance to talk your way OUT of it.

THIS IS WHERE WE DIFFER
I NEVER PUT MYSELF IN A POSITION TO HAVE
ANY WOMAN THINK SHE IS LETTING ME DO ANYTHING.
AS THOUGH THERE IS SOME KIND OF PRIVILEGE IN TALKING TO HER
AND MAYBE ILL GET THE PUSSY.:eek::smh:
I DONT THINK SO
IM A LITTLE HIGHER ON THE FOOD CHAIN THAN THAT.

THATS HUSTLIN BACKWARDS.
A FAIR SWAP AINT NO SWINDLE.
 
THIS IS WHERE WE DIFFER
I NEVER PUT MYSELF IN A POSITION TO HAVE
ANY WOMAN THINK SHE IS LETTING ME DO ANYTHING.
AS THOUGH THERE IS SOME KIND OF PRIVILEGE IN TALKING TO HER
AND MAYBE ILL GET THE PUSSY.:eek::smh:
I DONT THINK SO
IM A LITTLE HIGHER ON THE FOOD CHAIN THAN THAT.

THATS HUSTLIN BACKWARDS.
A FAIR SWAP AINT NO SWINDLE.

Nah dog, the cat I used to tell that to was notorious for talking himself out of pussy he already had on lock. It applied to him and applies to a lot of cats. Sometimes the best thing a cat can do is shut the fuck up because you CAN talk your way out of shit talking sideways and dumb. You can tell by the way they post that there are personalities on BGOL that have probably talked their way OUT of more pussy than they have actually had in their lives, hell, some of these cats have probably managed to talk their way out of damn near every opportunity they have ever had. Me personally, I stopped giving a shit YEARS ago and females are strangely attracted to that attitude. Matter of fact, I took a serious uptick damn near the day I stopped caring and stopped trying to tell females what they wanted to hear. Sex is cool, but like I said, the shit just doesn't hold the same value in my life as it did when I was a youngster so the shit I'm willing to say or do to get it is SEVERELY limited.

And to be real, the caliber of female that will even fuck with you when you are real about shit improves 1000%. Game recognizes game. I'm walking "chicken head repellent" at this stage in my life. Even my wife's homegirls that got some lingering chickenhead in them hate being around my ass because they know how real I will get with them if need be. I can gauge whether a female is about shit by whether she can deal with me and some of my "realer" homeboys. The ones that run scared or get defensive ALWAYS seem to be the ones you really don't want to fuck with anyway.
 
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