Serious Question Regarding Slavery is a Choice

Do you really think Kanye was referring to physical enslavement when he made that statement ?

Or was it really a matter of Kanye trying to be a deep cat but being unable to articulate his point clearly ?

And instead of getting him to explain himself,people took his statement literal and piled on....

Could he really have been talking about present times and people chosen to be mentally enslaved. ..?

And even though it would still be a poor choice of words it would change the context of what he was saying

I think thats what he was talking about. I think his thirst to be great, wise, enlightened, genius, controversial or whatever the hell he's reaching for got in the way of him articulating his point.

Being mentally defeated, hopeless, or lacking faith in oneself, seeing limitation, or anything else than can create a prison in the mind isn't comparable to slavery, at all.

This nigga just dropped an album too, he prolly just said the shit for promotional purposes.
 
I've made this comment and posted these images before, but here were go again. Not everyone captured were adults with adult reasoning and coping skills. If someone snatched your child up and started teaching them their lot in life was to serve and obey, that they deserved it, what would they do? Kids barely know their name and phone number when they get lost in a mall, let alone when they get kidnapped, brought to a world they don't know or understand, surrounded by people in power with a language they don't speak. They were literally picked up and displaced to an area they stood out in because of their skin. Couldn't run. Couldn't hide. Had no friends, or shelter, no money, no clothing. When you were 8 or 12 or even 15 could you recite your history? Would you know enough to capture and hold on to that knowledge and pass it on? After decades would you even believe it when all you've ever known, all those who surround you have ever known, all those you can remember before you have ever known is slavery? We have people now who have never been outside of a 6 block radius. The only reality they know is the one they live and survive in.

We are only 13% of the population now. Far fewer back then. There was no social media and phone lines for people to communicate. They didn't have anyway of organizing beyond the single plantation they were on. It wasn't a matter of people having strength and networks we were refusing to use. Also slave revolts were happening more in the end. Even with someone like Nat Turner tho, we see how well that turned out.

Like self science said, you can't make choices you don't know you have. And I'll add to that choices and knowledge that was deliberately kept from us. And don't act like we didn't have black folks like in Tulsa who once free did separate and thrive and have it all burned to the ground by jealous whites because we were outnumbered and powerless under the law.
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I think thats what he was talking about. I think his thirst to be great, wise, enlightened, genius, controversial or whatever the hell he's reaching for got in the way of him articulating his point.

Being mentally defeated, hopeless, or lacking faith in oneself, seeing limitation, or anything else than can create a prison in the mind isn't comparable to slavery, at all.

This nigga just dropped an album too, he prolly just said the shit for promotional purposes.

Yeap,, aint nothing like sum ole self promotion and then get free air play by the media!!
 
The reason these debates fail is because some of you get so stuck on the example that you can't see the subject..

I'll say it again...fuck Kanye ...but his statements should cause discourse but it's easier for those who know to be disgusted and those that don't to just join in and stay dumb..

Btw

In the south slaves made up much more than 13% of the population which is why crakkas were so afraid and brutal...and did all they could to steal our language because they didnt want organization and communication by us..it's why they sowed division between us then and now..

Good thing we no longer rely on drums to communicate cause too many would miss the message while screaming that's a dope beat...
 
The reason these debates fail is because some of you get so stuck on the example that you can't see the subject..

I'll say it again...fuck Kanye ...but his statements should cause discourse but it's easier for those who know to be disgusted and those that don't to just join in and stay dumb..

Btw

In the south slaves made up much more than 13% of the population which is why crakkas were so afraid and brutal...and did all they could to steal our language because they didnt want organization and communication by us..it's why they sowed division between us then and now..

Good thing we no longer rely on drums to communicate cause too many would miss the message while screaming that's a dope beat...

Highest black population during slavery was 19%

http://thomaslegioncherokee.tripod.com/distributionofslavesinunitedstateshistory.html
 
Sold, branded and issued with a new name, the enslaved Africans were separated and stripped of their identity. In a deliberate process, meant to break their will power and make them totally passive and subservient, the enslaved Africans were ‘seasoned.' This means that, for a period of two to three years, they were trained to endure their work and conditions - obey or receive the lash. It was mental and physical torture.

Life expectancy was short, on many plantations only 7-9 years. The high slave replacement figures were one piece of evidence used by the abolitionist, Anthony Benezet, to counter arguments that enslaved people benefitted from removal from Africa.
http://abolition.e2bn.org/slavery_69.html

Slaves suffered extremely high mortality. Half of all slave infants died during their first year of life, twice the rate of white babies. And while the death rate declined for those who survived their first year, it remained twice the white rate through age 14. As a result of this high infant and childhood death rate, the average life expectancy of a slave at birth was just 21 or 22 years, compared to 40 to 43 years for antebellum whites. Compared to whites, relatively few slaves lived into old age.
http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtID=2&psid=3040

Fuck KANYE!! His ass could not holdup mentally, eating all the good food, and having finest things in life and have the audacity uttered those words as a negro.
 


To clarify I was speaking of southern states

12. How about a state-by-state comparison? In 1860, slaves made up 57 percent of the population in South Carolina, the highest of any state in the union. Coming in second was Mississippi at 55 percent, followed by Louisiana at 47 percent, Alabama at 45 percent, and Florida and Georgia, both at 44 percent. Perhaps not surprisingly, these were the first six states to secede from the Union following Lincoln’s election. While Southern sympathizers denied that slavery was the cause of the Civil War, Lincoln knew better, and in a map prepared by the United States Coast Survey in 1861, he could see the obvious correlation between where Southern resolve was strongest and where the country’s slave population was greatest. For this reason, Lincoln could rightly say that issuing the Emancipation Proclamation—by executive order—in 1863 was closely tied to his military strategy for winning the war. (For more, see Susan Schulten’s article “Visualizing Slavery” in the New York Times on Dec. 9, 2010.)

https://www.theroot.com/slavery-by-the-numbers-1790874492


https://www.bowdoin.edu/~prael/lesson/tables.htm
 
Everything in life is a choice, regardless of how scary it may be. Kanye West believes that the majority of slaves chooses to stay in there position, instead of doing something about it. There wasn’t enough Nat Turners and Harriet Tubmans in America back then or even today. This is a very touchy subject and emotional for most people.


I always wonder if American’s slaves fought back like slaves in Haiti, would history be different here in America today?

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anyways, what route would you have taken? Nat turner, Harriet Tubman or stay a slave?










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Slavery Wasn’t a Choice. Agreeing With Kanye’s Stupidity is, Though.


Yesterday, Kanye West upped the ante of #KanyeGate2018 – because this nigga has been consistently problematic for the better part of the last 10 years – by stating that 400 years of chattel slavery sounds like a choice. While I generally opt out of arguments with niggas who refuse to read, I cannot help but be grossly frustrated and deeply offended by the notion – and the people who agree with it.

West and his defenders (both Black and other) support the ramblings from the Sunken Place as free thought. Putting aside the fact that his expressed sentiments are nothing more than the regurgitation of generations of antiblackness, there’s another reason these thoughts are free. They didn’t cost time spent reading, researching, or questioning the acquired knowledge through the process of critical thinking. These free thoughts weren’t subject to peer-review processes or a thesis/dissertation committee. They were built on labor of snatching a bit of truth and stretching it with a whole lot of lies. So fuck your free thoughts because real knowledge costs*.

What’s worse than West’s assertion that slavery was a choice is the host of Regular Black™ people who fixed their fingers and mouths to say that “Kanye has a point.”

I reckon these people are the same ones who think Killmonger is the true hero in Black Panther. The same people who won’t negotiate a salary at the bargaining table or leave miserable jobs are suddenly feeling stronger than their ancestors who were bred and died as slaves. People too scared to stand up to their abusive family members and establish boundaries for the sake of their emotional health. Women who refuse to leave broken relationships because they fear being alone more than being in emotional disrepair are suddenly stronger than the women in their bloodline who were raped, beaten, and torn from their children while yet alive. Men who frequently blame “the man” for keeping them down are suddenly feeling like they would have been strong enough to challenge and refuse chattel slavery.

Do you understand why you live with these fears and feelings of inferiority? It isn’t simply a choice. It’s a result of systemic oppression that has marked our existence in this country since we were first forced on its shores. If you aren’t consciously choosing to be afraid, what the fuck makes you believe that your ancestors could have just hit the unsubscribe button for slavery? Even when you do consciously choose to resist this programming, do you think white supremacy just rolls over and gives way to freedom? The survey of current violence against Black bodies at the hands of police, fragile white men, and gentrifyin’-ass white folks who call the police on the people that the neighborhood belongs to says I think the fuck not. There’s levels to this resistance shit.

As Damon Young of VSB said, our present existence and survival in this country is nothing short of a fucking miracle. These sentiments are what happens when you sanitize the history, barbarity, are inhumanity of the Transatlantic Slave Trade. We weren’t meant to live beyond the utility of our bodies. If our ancestors were truly weak, Black Americans would have died off less than a generation removed from slavery. My ancestors survived being beaten, their bodies bred like animals to reproduce, raped, assaulted, and mourning multiple egregious losses. Yet here we are as living, breathing legacies of the bodies, cultures, and lineage that Whiteness attempted to kill.

Internalized antiblackness is white supremacy’s goal for each of us. The more we buy into these lies of our ancestral inferiority, the more we’ll believe it about our current selves. White supremacy can only survive through the suppression of resistance, self-reliance, and self-realization of our strength. I know May is Mental Health Awareness month. Because of that, it is imperative that we don’t rush to armchair psychiatric diagnoses of his mental health. Mental illness, including grief from significant loss, shouldn’t be the go to rationalization for people’s actions. IF Kanye is mentally unwell, you can bet your bottom dollar that the illness is being brainwashed into believing that antiblackness will buy you a seat at the table – which is still not in the DSM-V.

Kanye has made and is making a deliberate choice to be antiblack in hopes of gaining access to White Privilege. West has decided that the accolades and acceptance of his own people is simply not enough. Kim Kardashian West is not to blame. Donda West’s death is not to blame. West prepared us for this breakup many moons ago: he got on and left our ass for a white girl named antiblackness. It’s time to cut our losses and move on.

https://www.unfitchristian.com/kanye-west-slavery-choice/
 
Everything in life is a choice, regardless of how scary it may be. Kanye West believes that the majority of slaves chooses to stay in there position, instead of doing something about it. There wasn’t enough Nat Turners and Harriet Tubmans in America back then or even today. This is a very touchy subject and emotional for most people.


I always wonder if American’s slaves fought back like slaves in Haiti, would history be different here in America today?

1509110435.jpg





anyways, what route would you have taken? Nat turner, Harriet Tubman or stay a slave?










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in all fairness Haitian slaves of varying complexions out numbered the white population at the time of the revolution.

Europe and America was lucky as hell that the pirates and privateers of the previous century were already suppressed - imagine the republic of Pirates in Nassau jumping off at the same time as the Haitian revolution
 
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