Sean Levert Died in Jail last night....

Says who? The very same people that spew similar comments and other forms of venom? This clearly counted enough for many people to address it. Now even I admit that the comment was a little extreme (and I personally couldnt give a damn about this celebrity) but the same people that are coming out in droves to whine about it let alot of other negative comments around here slide. So again if others can say what they please why cant this person that posted the comment in question?

Says ME.

And I dont spew similar comments and other forms of venom, or let shit slide. So where does that cast your argument? :hmm:

What, I dont have a right to complain about extreme asshole comments from some loudmouthed hoochie about a man (and R&B legend) who just died?

People can ride on each other all they want, but when people shoot wild and hit bystanders, they cede the moral high ground.

"Never wrestle with a pig--you get dirty and the pig gets dirty, but the pig likes it."
 
DaleMabry:


That really means nothing in the end. Your word is not final.


And I dont spew similar comments and other forms of venom, or let shit slide. So where does that cast your argument?

It leaves it in the exact same place it was before considering that I never said you in the specific sense. Although good for you on not being hypicritical. Thats a true rarity here.

People can ride on each other all they want, but when people shoot wild and hit bystanders, they cede the moral high ground.

I agree.

"Never wrestle with a pig--you get dirty and the pig gets dirty, but the pig likes it."

Nice phrase. I think I'll hold onto it.
 
But I'm a woman so my opinion doesn't count on BGOL (but that aint gonna stop me from putting it up). Forget a circle jerk: Da Con, mrsjody, Dale, destrehan, hustleharder, divine, ming, and all the rest. I DO NOT APPROVE OF CIRCLE JERKS. That's mad gay :puke:
how about addressing what i said instead of trying to mask your ignorance with stupid euphemisms?
 
DaleMabry:



That really means nothing in the end. Your word is not final.

But its final for ME. And the original question was if her opinion is worthless and I answered yes.

It leaves it in the exact same place it was before considering that I never said you in the specific sense. Although good for you on not being hypicritical. Thats a true rarity here.

Once again, to ME her opinion is worthless and a "you're not better than she is" argument doesnt work in this instance.

Nice phrase. I think I'll hold onto it.

Sposedly Abe Lincoln said it, I take no credit, although I think the attribution is under debate (he may not have said it.)
 


The judge should lose her fucking seat if this is jail related.

Sending people to jail for child support takes away their earning potential for the future, mcdonalds wont even hire ex cons.

Garnish wages.

I mean dude gets out and owes what, 100k or some shit now he is a felon????????? WTF.

We have more people in jail per 1000 than russia, enough already.

Plus the whole child support court needs to be revamped, what kinda of shit is it to pay support and have "limited rights" as a parent. :confused: :confused: :confused:

Maybe his death(if jail related and suicide is jail related) might bring attention to this shameful thing we call "family court", or as I like to call it "anti-family court".

For every levert in the hole there are men paying weekly who are not even allowed to see their kids. :smh: :smh:

The feminist friendly media hides all the dirty cunts that use kids has pawns and purposely destroy relationships with the courts help, just like this cunt judge threw a father in the bing for 22 months, how does that help a damn thing????????????????

No way this man 39 needs to be stressed out in the county for child support. They so crooked they make men pay for kids that aint even theirs.

They so crooked they will make you keep paying for a kid that you find out aint yours, or if you lucky let you stop but wont refund your money or throw her in jail. :smh: But they will hit you with back support for a kid years later. :lol: :hmm:

What if a guy spends 80k on kids he thinks are his, later finds out they aint, bet that cunt dont get 22 months, so miss me with the BS fam.




:yes:

I've been paying for 18 years and I've seen my daughter maybe 10 times. I even went to court to get visitation, when her mother blatantly refused to acknowledge the order, the judge said, "You'll have to work that out with her"....huh:hmm: This nation is hell bent on destroying families and they are doing a great cott damn job of it.
 
But its final for ME. And the original question was if her opinion is worthless and I answered yes.



Once again, to ME her opinion is worthless and a "you're not better than she is" argument doesnt work in this instance.



Sposedly Abe Lincoln said it, I take no credit, although I think the attribution is under debate (he may not have said it.)

Fair enough then Mabry.
 
More on the death of Sean Levert...

It has been reported yesteday that Sean Levert was acting strange and having hallucinations in jail but more light is being shed on the situation today. He was screaming for his anxiety medication and said his wife was on her way to bring it to him. Sources say he wouldn’t stop screaming and acting out so he was actually put in a straitjacket and transfered to the psych ward. A little after that he stopped responding. The question now is did he die in prison or at the hospital? They are also investigating whether or not he received that medication.
From the family:

CLEVELAND, OH (March 31, 2008) — The family of Sean Levert has released the following statement regarding the death of their beloved son, brother, nephew, uncle, cousin & father: “There are no words that can express what we are feeling today. There is no song that can capture the loss that we have in our hearts. But we are humbly overwhelmed by the generous outpouring of love, condolences and support from the many friends, fans and admirers of our son Sean. At this very difficult time, we thank you for your prayers and hope you will understand our need for privacy.” Funeral arrangements have not been determined at this time.
 
R.I.P. to that man. I used to dig his song "Put Your Body Where Your Mouth Is" that came out in the 90s.
 
yea right!

What part you don't understand or believe?

"avoiding" was written like this to make a point of what is Child support. Too many ppl are under the assumption that child support is money when it is not.

It only becomes an issue of money if both parties agree to it.

Child Support is suppose to be an actual support system for a child that covers the NEEDs - Education, Shelter (includes clothing/food/childcare), Medical and/or Spiritual Issues.

If you go into court and the magistrate says "Let me see you pay stubs." and you provide them without asking for an accounting of the actual support as per financial disclosure forums appendum D. You basically say "All I want to do is pay."

If a parent provides the needs - there will be a variance from the percentages which can be anyway from 0 to under 17% per child.
 
Anyone who feels the time to express their "opinion"--that a man deserves to die over a child support dispute--comes in the days following his death is a worthless piece of shit whose opinion does not count, absolutely.

i left alone...bitches, male or female are gonna be bitches...
 
Considering the last several post. I think we are missing the point a bit. My pops went to court paid a lawyer mad money to deny he was even my sperm-doner to get out of paying child support. Consequently, me my brothers and my moms had it rough even though she worked three or four jobs to put a rough over our heads. Now here it is 20 years later and he still plays the "how come you don't come and see me" role. Nah fuck that, if a man is brave enough to do the crime rather it be selling dope or not paying his child support to support HIS children. Then he should be man enough to take his punishment whatever that maybe. That's what I teach my three boys. And if the black community especially could enforce this among these young folks then maybe fatherhood, and family life wouldn't be such a damn joke!!!

Everybody's got a fucked up story dude, no disrespect. But this has nothing to do with this guy. I never knew my pops either and now that's he's dead I never will. He was cheating on his wife with my mom and she got pregnant. She didn't want his ass just for him to own up. I guess you can figure out the rest of the story. He disappeared! Which is understandable under the circumstances, but irresponsible nonetheless.

I have a family of my own now and I'm happy. But I know and have known plenty of bitches who tried to hook me and lots of brothers I know with that child support trap. Nowadays, you don't even have to be present at the birth or know a chick at all for your name to appear on a birth certificate.

You can be hemmed up on some bullshit and look like an ass or worse yet die in prison over some bullshit all because you're trying to keep it real by not letting some bitch scam you for child support.

There's two sides to every story and before we start sullying this brother's name with our own personal agendas maybe we should really try to find HIS truth in all this.

Maybe he's NOT like our daddies were to us.
 
There's two sides to every story and before we start sullying this brother's name with our own personal agendas maybe we should really try to find HIS truth in all this.

Maybe he's NOT like our daddies were to us.

Exactly, and cats is a bunch of ignorant selfish muthafuckas for grandstanding with their personal issues and using that man's death to do it.
 
:yes:

I've been paying for 18 years and I've seen my daughter maybe 10 times. I even went to court to get visitation, when her mother blatantly refused to acknowledge the order, the judge said, "You'll have to work that out with her"....huh:hmm: This nation is hell bent on destroying families and they are doing a great cott damn job of it.

Like Ive been saying--they dont give a fuck about physical and emotional support, or the wellbeing of families on either side--they just want that cash kicked up.

Until this changes and visitation and custody are enforced just as stridently as the financial committment, families will stay fucked up.

And there should definitely be a more flexible process for modifying the court order--doesnt make sense in an economy sliding into recession or worse, that income changes arent recognized by the court.
 
:yes:

I've been paying for 18 years and I've seen my daughter maybe 10 times. I even went to court to get visitation, when her mother blatantly refused to acknowledge the order, the judge said, "You'll have to work that out with her"....huh:hmm: This nation is hell bent on destroying families and they are doing a great cott damn job of it.

exactly!!
 
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1. Does anyone know how much child support he was ordered to pay monthly?

2. Does anyone know why he wasn't paying it?

3. Was he paying any support at all before being sent to jail?

A lot of people in this thread say people shouldn't be thrown in jail for not paying child support but don't realize it usually takes a long time before the situation gets to that point. $85K is a lot of cheese for the average American. Also, it's not counter productive to put the offender in jail since the child wasn't receiving the $ anyway. If anything, the government is using it as a way to get labor in return for having to support the man's child. In other words, like all things, it's either ass (labor), gas, or cash. No one rides for free. The government also sees it as punishment for a crime...which in most cases it is. People simply don't put the children first. I know nothing of Sean's case so I'm not speaking on that but in general the child's not the priority if the non-custodial parent is paying absolutely nothing and the support arrears reaches damn near $100K. In Sean's case, he may have been ordered an absurd monthly amount compared to his income. Again, I don't know. Is the court system fucked up and slanted towards women? Yes, without a doubt. As someone pointed out, he was a black man in America. Shit is not fair. This is not new.
 
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