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I will say this, Samsung copied and it was obvious, and it was one of my problems with Touchwiz at first.
But a lot of those patents are fuckin bullshit
They never should have been allowed
prioritizing data?
a way to transmit data more efficiently?
multitasking while playing music?
But a lot of those patents are fuckin bullshit
They never should have been allowed
prioritizing data?
a way to transmit data more efficiently?
multitasking while playing music?
Agreed....Its like patenting the wheel...
And this matters to people that like their phones in what manner?
Or Corn @ Monsanto...
Youre missing the key word here... METHOD. They didnt patent playing music in the background, the patented how doing so is achieved on their device. All of the functions you mentioned can be achieved through various methods, and any manufacturer can make different decisions in relation to this (which many others have).
I'm surprised they were found not guilty on the Galaxy Tab...one thing I disliked about most droid tabs was the oblong length...the Galaxy Tab is the only droid tablet that came close to having the 4:3 aspect ratio...main reason I bought it the 1st time around was of how close it matched the iPad physically
Y'all Android niggas like
why? i don't get it. This is Apple v. Samsung.
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If only Samsung were a CHINESE company....
Outside of USA, the Korean Courts had a ruling too.. Seems way more balanced than a biased jury in Silicon Valley
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2012/08/24/apple-samsung-patent-trial.html
Samsung wins Korean battle in Apple patent war
South Korea's Samsung won a home court ruling in its global smartphone battle against Apple on Friday when Seoul judges said the company didn't copy the look and feel of the U.S. company's iPhone, and that Apple infringed on Samsung's wireless technology.
However, in a split decision on patents, the panel also said Samsung violated Apple technology behind the bounce-back feature when scrolling on touch screens, and ordered both sides to pay limited damages.
The Seoul Central District Court ruling called for a partial ban on sales of products including iPads and smartphones from both companies, though the verdict did not affect the latest-generation phones — Apple's iPhone 4S or Samsung's Galaxy S3.
The ruling affects only the South Korean market, and is part of a larger, epic struggle over patents and innovation unfolding in nine countries. The biggest stakes are in the U.S., where Apple is suing Samsung for $2.5 billion over allegations it has created illegal knockoffs of iPhones and iPads.
Wide-ranging dispute
The Seoul ruling was a rare victory for Samsung in its arguments that Apple has infringed on its wireless technology patents, which previously have been shot down by courts in Europe where judges have ruled that they are part of industry standards that must be licensed under fair terms to competitors.
"This is basically Samsung's victory on its home territory," said patent attorney Jeong Woo-sung. "Out of nine countries, Samsung got the ruling that it wanted for the first time in South Korea."
The ruling ordered Apple to remove the iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPad 1 and iPad 2 from store shelves in South Korea, ruling that the products infringed on two of Samsung's five disputed patents, including those for telecommunications technology.
The court also denied Apple's claim that Samsung had illegally copied its design, ruling that similar rectangular screens with rounded corners had existed in products before the iPhone and iPad.
"Based on the similarity in these features, it is not possible to assert that the two designs are similar," the court said in a ruling issued in Korean that was translated into English by The Associated Press. It also said individual icons do not appear similar to the icons Apple used in the iPhone.
But the court ruled that Suwon, South Korea-based Samsung had infringed on one of Apple's patents on the feature that causes a screen to bounce back when a user scrolls to an end image. The court banned sales of Samsung products using the technology, including the Galaxy S2, in South Korea.
Products removed
Court spokesman Kim Mun-sung said the court's ruling was to take effect immediately, although companies often request that sanctions be suspended while they evaluate their legal options.
Nam Ki-yung, a spokesman for Samsung, said the company welcomed the ruling. "Today's ruling also affirmed our position that one single company cannot monopolize generic design features," he said.
Apple did not respond to multiple calls seeking comment.
The court also ordered each company to pay monetary compensation to its competitor. Samsung must pay Apple 25 million won ($22,000) while Apple must pay its rival 40 million won.
South Korea is not a big market for Apple, and the ruling is not likely to have a big impact on jury deliberations in the U.S.
However, some industry watchers expressed concern over the South Korean ruling to protect industry standard patents. They say the decision could invite a trade war by giving Samsung and fellow South Korean company LG — both industry standard patent holders — more room to block rivals' entrance into South Korea if they don't agree to licensing terms.
"It would mean that foreign companies would either have to bow to Samsung's and LG's demands ... or stop selling in Korea," said Florian Mueller, a patent expert in Munich, Germany who has been closely following the case.
Courts in Europe, including Netherlands, France, Italy and Germany have rejected similar claims by Samsung that Apple violated its wireless patents, with judges arguing that the patents have become part of industry standards. Standard-essential patents are a crucial technology for new players to make products compatible with the rest of the market and must be licensed under fair and reasonable terms.
Case continues elsewhere
Europe's anti-trust regulator launched an investigation earlier this year into whether Samsung was failing to license those patents under fair and reasonable terms.
In Friday's ruling, the South Korean court said Samsung did not abuse its market power as an industry standard patent holder.
Apple filed suit against Samsung in San Diego, California, in April 2011, alleging that some of the South Korean company's smartphones and computer tablets are illegal knockoffs of Apple's iPhone and iPad. Samsung denies the allegations and argues that all companies in the cutthroat phone industry mimic each other's successes without crossing the legal line.
Cupertino, California-based Apple is suing Samsung for $2.5 billion and demanding that the court pull its most popular smartphones and computer tablets from the U.S. market, making the case one of the biggest technology disputes in history.
Jury deliberations in San Diego began Wednesday after three weeks of testimony. The case went to the jury after last-minute talks between the companies' chief executives failed to resolve the dispute.
Shortly after Apple filed its suit in the U.S., Samsung filed a complaint in South Korea against Apple for allegedly breaching its telecommunications patents.
The battle is all the more complex as Apple and Samsung are not only competitors in the fast-growing global market for smartphones and tablet computers, but also have a close business relationship.
Samsung, the world's biggest manufacturer of memory chips and liquid crystal displays, supplies some of the key components that go into Apple products, including mobile chips that work as a brain of the iPhone and the iPad.
The South Korean firm overtook Apple in less than three years in smartphone markets. In the second quarter of this year, Samsung sold 50.2 million units of smartphones, nearly twice as much as Apple's 26 million units, according to IDC.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2012/08/24/apple-samsung-patent-trial.html
Samsung wins Korean battle in Apple patent war
South Korea's Samsung won a home court ruling in its global smartphone battle against Apple on Friday when Seoul judges said the company didn't copy the look and feel of the U.S. company's iPhone, and that Apple infringed on Samsung's wireless technology.
However, in a split decision on patents, the panel also said Samsung violated Apple technology behind the bounce-back feature when scrolling on touch screens, and ordered both sides to pay limited damages.
The Seoul Central District Court ruling called for a partial ban on sales of products including iPads and smartphones from both companies, though the verdict did not affect the latest-generation phones — Apple's iPhone 4S or Samsung's Galaxy S3.
The ruling affects only the South Korean market, and is part of a larger, epic struggle over patents and innovation unfolding in nine countries. The biggest stakes are in the U.S., where Apple is suing Samsung for $2.5 billion over allegations it has created illegal knockoffs of iPhones and iPads.
Wide-ranging dispute
The Seoul ruling was a rare victory for Samsung in its arguments that Apple has infringed on its wireless technology patents, which previously have been shot down by courts in Europe where judges have ruled that they are part of industry standards that must be licensed under fair terms to competitors.
"This is basically Samsung's victory on its home territory," said patent attorney Jeong Woo-sung. "Out of nine countries, Samsung got the ruling that it wanted for the first time in South Korea."
The ruling ordered Apple to remove the iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPad 1 and iPad 2 from store shelves in South Korea, ruling that the products infringed on two of Samsung's five disputed patents, including those for telecommunications technology.
The court also denied Apple's claim that Samsung had illegally copied its design, ruling that similar rectangular screens with rounded corners had existed in products before the iPhone and iPad.
"Based on the similarity in these features, it is not possible to assert that the two designs are similar," the court said in a ruling issued in Korean that was translated into English by The Associated Press. It also said individual icons do not appear similar to the icons Apple used in the iPhone.
But the court ruled that Suwon, South Korea-based Samsung had infringed on one of Apple's patents on the feature that causes a screen to bounce back when a user scrolls to an end image. The court banned sales of Samsung products using the technology, including the Galaxy S2, in South Korea.
Products removed
Court spokesman Kim Mun-sung said the court's ruling was to take effect immediately, although companies often request that sanctions be suspended while they evaluate their legal options.
Nam Ki-yung, a spokesman for Samsung, said the company welcomed the ruling. "Today's ruling also affirmed our position that one single company cannot monopolize generic design features," he said.
Apple did not respond to multiple calls seeking comment.
The court also ordered each company to pay monetary compensation to its competitor. Samsung must pay Apple 25 million won ($22,000) while Apple must pay its rival 40 million won.
South Korea is not a big market for Apple, and the ruling is not likely to have a big impact on jury deliberations in the U.S.
However, some industry watchers expressed concern over the South Korean ruling to protect industry standard patents. They say the decision could invite a trade war by giving Samsung and fellow South Korean company LG — both industry standard patent holders — more room to block rivals' entrance into South Korea if they don't agree to licensing terms.
"It would mean that foreign companies would either have to bow to Samsung's and LG's demands ... or stop selling in Korea," said Florian Mueller, a patent expert in Munich, Germany who has been closely following the case.
Courts in Europe, including Netherlands, France, Italy and Germany have rejected similar claims by Samsung that Apple violated its wireless patents, with judges arguing that the patents have become part of industry standards. Standard-essential patents are a crucial technology for new players to make products compatible with the rest of the market and must be licensed under fair and reasonable terms.
Case continues elsewhere
Europe's anti-trust regulator launched an investigation earlier this year into whether Samsung was failing to license those patents under fair and reasonable terms.
In Friday's ruling, the South Korean court said Samsung did not abuse its market power as an industry standard patent holder.
Apple filed suit against Samsung in San Diego, California, in April 2011, alleging that some of the South Korean company's smartphones and computer tablets are illegal knockoffs of Apple's iPhone and iPad. Samsung denies the allegations and argues that all companies in the cutthroat phone industry mimic each other's successes without crossing the legal line.
Cupertino, California-based Apple is suing Samsung for $2.5 billion and demanding that the court pull its most popular smartphones and computer tablets from the U.S. market, making the case one of the biggest technology disputes in history.
Jury deliberations in San Diego began Wednesday after three weeks of testimony. The case went to the jury after last-minute talks between the companies' chief executives failed to resolve the dispute.
Shortly after Apple filed its suit in the U.S., Samsung filed a complaint in South Korea against Apple for allegedly breaching its telecommunications patents.
The battle is all the more complex as Apple and Samsung are not only competitors in the fast-growing global market for smartphones and tablet computers, but also have a close business relationship.
Samsung, the world's biggest manufacturer of memory chips and liquid crystal displays, supplies some of the key components that go into Apple products, including mobile chips that work as a brain of the iPhone and the iPad.
The South Korean firm overtook Apple in less than three years in smartphone markets. In the second quarter of this year, Samsung sold 50.2 million units of smartphones, nearly twice as much as Apple's 26 million units, according to IDC.
The bounce back feature is covered under a patent? Come on...
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Downloading this now.
Apple fanboy circle jerk thread...This has nothing to do with android btw..
Some shit just shouldn't be patentable\trademarkable. I always thought that Mary Kay pink and Jay-Z blue were total bullshit. If I create an S-shaped paperclip should I be able to sue people who come out with G-shaped ones? Most UI research was done by NASA and the car industry so I'm sure one of them could sue Apple if they squinted at their patents for long enough.
These legal proceedings are great business tactics. If you invent the wheel and don't take proper caution to make sure U own it, then don't get mad when courts decide that U don't.
I don't get why people are so up in a roar over this...wait I do understand. It's the same reason why most people that open their own business FAIL. They don't know SHIT about how to do REAL business...
i wonder how much income apple gets from frivolous lawsuits.
The bounce back feature is covered under a patent? Come on...
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That was a pretty clever solution as far as I see it. There was no prior art (what Samsung presented was completely different), and Microsoft licensed the feature from Apple for its Windows phones
Judge was paid off?
Divine? FUGGGG YOUUUU
Divine? FUGGGG YOUUUUPatent#305 Rounded square icons on interface
dats what I said...
I'm no math wiz or accountant, but
- Damages to Apple $1,051,855,000 (1.5 BILLION)
that ain't 1.5 bil....
..more like 1.05 bil..
- Damages to Apple $1,051,855,000 (1.5 BILLION)
that ain't 1.5 bil....
..more like 1.05 bil..
They aren't smart enough to realize that this only affects Samsung, and not Google, LG, HTC, Motorola, Sony....
People are in an uproar?
Man STFU
Mr Fortune 500 CEO right here
And it's not about owning it. It's about patents being allowed that should have been, because they're too broad. That's one of the things that started happening with the Bush administration. There's no one to say, patenting how a icon looks, this doesn't even make sense.
Also it hurts the consumer, because it limits the number of options. If it wasn't for Android, Apple probably wouldn't even be on the 3GS as far as technology making minimal changes. Competition has pushed them, and it's also caused them to change and make additions to the iPhone.
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Exactly. It has nothing to do with android really. Dude on this board are to stupid and fanboyish to see it though. Apple hasn't sued Google because they don't need to. Touch Wiz was the copycat. Sammy designed TouchWiz to mimic an iPhone and that's against the law. TouchWiz is the desktop equivalent of someone releasing a linux distro with Ubuntu under the hood, but a window manager designed to look identical to MacOS. Whoever sold that would be sued and lose as well.
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