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Republicans Go After Susan Rice, Eric Holder. Is There A Racial Component Here?
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I don't know if there is a racial component to it, but there does appear to be a double-standard being applied:
Condoleeza Rice:
- Made statements about the existence of WMD in Iraq that were just fucking false.
Number of People who Died as a Result of Mis-statement: Some estimate +/- a million.
McCAIN et al., response: Nothing but support & confidence in Condi.
Susan Rice:
- Issued a statement about the attack on Benghazi, that appears to be inaccurate (and for the sake of this piece, - lets just assume that the statement was inaccurate).
Number of People who Died as a Result of the Mis-statement: 0
McCain et al., response Total disdain and disrespect.
Some were. The so called conservative Democrats, with each election cycles are become less and less.
...and another in a long line of hypocrisies by republicans in general! If you can make sense of this, you are a better person than me.
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Yeah right excuse maker, there were alot more than just the conservative Dems that believed it.
Dems couldn't attack Condoleeza Rice because they were all saying the same thing. How is the situation with Susan Rice comparable. It's only the same thing if your lens of truth is the Republican/Democratic lens.
So far this is normal politics not racism.
Dems couldn't attack Condoleeza Rice because they were all saying the same thing. How is the situation with Susan Rice comparable. It's only the same thing if your lens of truth is the Republican/Democratic lens.
So far this is normal politics not racism.
Republicans Go After Susan Rice, Eric Holder. Is There A Racial Component Here????
DUH!!!!!!!!
Definition of DUH - interj \ˈdə, usually with prolonged ə\
1 — used to express actual or feigned ignorance or stupidity
2 — used to indicate that something just stated is all too obvious or self-evident
The RepubliKlans will always defend Condi Rice's duplicitousness after all as crack whore emulator & republiklan doyenne Ann Coulter said "Our blacks are so much better than their blacks" - Condi is one of their Black medallions, always eager to publicly repudiate anyone who calls the RepubliKlans racist. If Condi has any independence from her handlers she should step forward and defend Susan Rice from this republiklan character assassination.
DUH!!!!!!!!
Definition of DUH - interj \ˈdə, usually with prolonged ə\
1 — used to express actual or feigned ignorance or stupidity
2 — used to indicate that something just stated is all too obvious or self-evident
The RepubliKlans will always defend Condi Rice's duplicitousness after all as crack whore emulator & republiklan doyenne Ann Coulter said "Our blacks are so much better than their blacks" - Condi is one of their Black medallions, always eager to publicly repudiate anyone who calls the RepubliKlans racist. If Condi has any independence from her handlers she should step forward and defend Susan Rice from this republiklan character assassination.
Normal? Have you ignored the ENTIRE post? I said Holder, Jones, Sherrod and they have attacked Revered Wright.
All coincidentally are Black folk.
There are noticeably less attacks against the republican's former main target, Hillary Clinton. Why no republican Benghazi attacks against her?
Because it's racial and political!
This is why accusations of racism have no weight because people are always calling something racism.
First, Wright doesn't count. He's not in government. Second if you want black people in power then they are going to be brutally criticized. You can't have both ways.
Stop screaming racism all the fucking time.
And why bring up Clinton? She's been criticized by Republicans for 20 years. It wouldn't even be news to say something about her. Susan Rice as well if she were not the front runner for State.
Obviously it could turn racial like with Holder, but it's not there yet.
This all comes down to this board's Obama fetish like he can't do anything wrong. They should not have had Rice on those talk shows without figuring out exactly what to say.
The election is over. Stop protecting him so much.
First, Wright doesn't count. He's not in government. Second if you want black people in power then they are going to be brutally criticized. You can't have both ways.
Stop screaming racism all the fucking time.
And why bring up Clinton? She's been criticized by Republicans for 20 years. It wouldn't even be news to say something about her. Susan Rice as well if she were not the front runner for State.
Obviously it could turn racial like with Holder, but it's not there yet.
This all comes down to this board's Obama fetish like he can't do anything wrong. They should not have had Rice on those talk shows without figuring out exactly what to say.
The election is over. Stop protecting him so much.
I will answer the question, but I don't see the relevance to what I said above. Expound.
You're wrapping yourself with something you claim to be against: politics. I really don't give a shit about who voted how. This attack on Susan Rice is wrong and McCain is OBVIOUSLY applying an indefensible double standard. No need to try to finesse this one.
John McCain showed just how interested he was in finding out what really happened during the September 11th attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi. A 'classified briefing' was held for the benefit of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee on November 14, 2012. John McCain is a member of that committee.
But did John McCain didn't attend the classified briefing???
Hell no!!!
Instead of attending the briefing -- John McCain was out television whoring on CNN ranting and raving about what?: the lack of information.
I could agree with all that but still not agree that it's racism. I view it as normal politics.
Opposition party attacks like this isn't rare. And I think in this case, it wouldn't happen if her name wasn't being floated for State. She was criticized weeks ago when she actually made the appearances. Was it racist then?
She was the face of the administration's response to Benghazi. I think this is what makes the attacks legitimate.
I explained my position on Holder (and Obama) in a similar way. Republicans were fine to go after Holder on Fast and Furious, but they decided to step into disrespectful territory to express their opposition.
I'm not like you guys. I would never categorized the very existence of opposition as racist. The only alternative is to not have black people in power.
Opposition party attacks like this isn't rare. And I think in this case, it wouldn't happen if her name wasn't being floated for State. She was criticized weeks ago when she actually made the appearances. Was it racist then?
She was the face of the administration's response to Benghazi. I think this is what makes the attacks legitimate.
I explained my position on Holder (and Obama) in a similar way. Republicans were fine to go after Holder on Fast and Furious, but they decided to step into disrespectful territory to express their opposition.
I'm not like you guys. I would never categorized the very existence of opposition as racist. The only alternative is to not have black people in power.
Apologist!
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You do know that those folks worked for Clinton so if its not racial why aren't all three (Rice, Clinton, Obama) all catching it just the blacks? Especially when the cacs admit she (Rice) had nothing to do with it.
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One reason that I tend to quote the text that I am responding to is to make clear that which I am responding to. I try (though I do not always succeed) to avoid broad generalities, i.e., "you guys" because it tends to render comment ambiguous. And, no matter the political party, I have major problems accepting as "legitimate" attacks by whites on blacks not warranted by the truth.
I don't understand the perception that Obama and Clinton don't get criticized enough.
Republicans are doing the predictable thing in going for the attack with the most return.
Attacking Obama won't work, because they just went through 4 years of it not amounting to anything.
Clinton is leaving plus after 20 years of talking about her, its old.
Susan Rice is in the running for State. You know what that means? Confirmation hearing. All this just sets that up. This is attention whoring. Typical attention whoring. Not racism.
This is going to get much worse, and like I said it could escalate into racism, but its not there. You guys are going to pull your hair out if it actually gets to hearings.
I actually agree with you that the attacks are necessarily racial but political (with a dash of racism thrown in) but there is nothing legitimate about these attacks and it is a very clear double standard. C. Rice passed along the information she was given and when it was found to be horribly incorrect, McCain and Graham gave her a pass, as did Sen. Obama. S. Rice is in a similar position, without the warfare, and now these McGraham (they're one guy to me) pretends like she was purposely being misleading.
The attacks would have at least an air of legitimacy if McGraham and the Republican took less time to grandstand and showed up at Benghazi meetings.
...an apologist.
The attacks are legitimate because there has never been a high standard for political attacks.
C. Rice passed along information she was given that was mostly 10 years old and compiled mostly by a Democratic administration. There is no shared responsibility in S. Rice's case.
But if anyone has been paying attenton to the reports regarding Petraeus' testimony, he officially just let her off the hook. Which means the confirmation hearings will just be a formality (if she's nominated), and we'll have another black woman as Secretary of State even though none of you value the first.
source:: Huffington Post
Jim Clyburn: Susan Rice Attacks Are Racial Code
Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) said attacks on U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice, an African-American woman who is a top candidate for secretary of state in the second term of President Barack Obama, used racial code words.
The House member was asked directly on Tuesday whether there was a racist or sexist component to the criticisms of Rice's appearance on Sept. 16 Sunday television, during which Rice said that the Sept. 11 Benghazi attacks were based off an incendiary anti-Muslim video, rather than a terrorist attack.
Clyburn took issue with legislators calling Rice "incompetent" in the wake of the interviews.
"You know, these are code words," said Clyburn on CNN's "Starting Point." "These kinds of terms that those of us -- especially those of us who were grown and raised in the South -- we've been hearing these little words and phrases all of our lives and we get insulted by them."
"Susan Rice is as competent as anybody you will find. And just to paste that word on her causes problems with people like [Rep.] Marcia Fudge, and certainly causes a big problem with me. I don't like those words. Say she was wrong for doing it, but don't call her incompetent. That is something totally different. A lot of very competent people sometimes make errors. And to say that she erroneously did it, I don't have a problem with it."
"And Sen. McCain called her incompetent, as well, but he told us that Sarah Palin was very competent to be vice president of the United States -- that should tell you a little about his judgment," Clyburn said.
McCain has called Rice "not qualified" to be secretary of state, and has said that the handling of Benghazi was either a "cover-up or incompetence." McCain now says that he can't support any secretary of state nominee because of the Benghazi attacks.
Despite McCain's accusation that Rice intentionally misled the public in her Sunday show appearances, CIA documents back up that she was reading off the most current intelligence assessment.
Jim Clyburn: Susan Rice Attacks Are Racial Code
Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) said attacks on U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice, an African-American woman who is a top candidate for secretary of state in the second term of President Barack Obama, used racial code words.
The House member was asked directly on Tuesday whether there was a racist or sexist component to the criticisms of Rice's appearance on Sept. 16 Sunday television, during which Rice said that the Sept. 11 Benghazi attacks were based off an incendiary anti-Muslim video, rather than a terrorist attack.
Clyburn took issue with legislators calling Rice "incompetent" in the wake of the interviews.
"You know, these are code words," said Clyburn on CNN's "Starting Point." "These kinds of terms that those of us -- especially those of us who were grown and raised in the South -- we've been hearing these little words and phrases all of our lives and we get insulted by them."
"Susan Rice is as competent as anybody you will find. And just to paste that word on her causes problems with people like [Rep.] Marcia Fudge, and certainly causes a big problem with me. I don't like those words. Say she was wrong for doing it, but don't call her incompetent. That is something totally different. A lot of very competent people sometimes make errors. And to say that she erroneously did it, I don't have a problem with it."
"And Sen. McCain called her incompetent, as well, but he told us that Sarah Palin was very competent to be vice president of the United States -- that should tell you a little about his judgment," Clyburn said.
McCain has called Rice "not qualified" to be secretary of state, and has said that the handling of Benghazi was either a "cover-up or incompetence." McCain now says that he can't support any secretary of state nominee because of the Benghazi attacks.
Despite McCain's accusation that Rice intentionally misled the public in her Sunday show appearances, CIA documents back up that she was reading off the most current intelligence assessment.
A low bar doesn't grant legitimacy. These are, and as Gen. Petraeus has proven, baseless, pointless political attacks with no substance.
I don't value Rice as the first Black woman SOS because it had no value. Just having a Black face doesn't make me a fan. She, as was the pattern in the Bush Admin and Republican Party in general, failed up. She was a failure as National Security Advisor and somehow parlayed that into a promotion.
It does grant legitimacy if modern politics is one big "low-bar."
On another note, your criticism of C. Rice is one of a few that's reasonable (I still disagree with it). Most people on this board just question her blackness just because she was a Republican.
RepubliKlan criticism of Rice has nothing to do with race, absolutely nothing to do with race, anyone who says that is a dumb under educated rube who is playing the "race card"; we have no race problem in America anymore, Herman Cain said so and he would know
Scary Black Lady Susan Rice Once Said That White Children Should Be Forced To Learn Of Blacks’ Existence
In an article that proves conclusively that U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice is, in fact, the scariest Black Power Radical who ever scared a white person on the internet (at least since that one terrifying door-opening man in Philadelphia on election day), the Daily Caller has a bombshell exposé that tears the lid off Rice’s involvement in writing a 1986 book that advocated a radical socialist agenda to teach black history in our nation’s schools. Even to white children!!!! Seriously, that’s in the actual headline: “Susan Rice in 1986 book: Make white students learn black history”.....
Read the rest from the republiklan blog HERE
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