Red Dead Redemption 2 (spoilers)

RED DEAD REDEMPTION 2 WILL BE WHAT DEFINES THE “NEW” ROCKSTAR
Many things have changed at the company in recent years


Rockstar Games has a lot riding on Red Dead Redemption 2, far more than just the success of this one title.

The future of the franchise is at stake, but the game will also be the “debut” of the company Rockstar has become in the years since 2013. Much has changed in the four years since the release of Grand Theft Auto 5, and it’s up to Red Dead Redemption 2 to show what direction that change took the hyper-popular developer.






The gap between the release of the two games will be longest in Rockstar’s history, which is a symptom of the changing waters. GTA 5 was where the change started, and we’ll only see the results come the launch of Red Dead Redemption 2.

The focus has shifted from story driven single player experiences to multiplayer, one of the leading figures of the company left amid turbulence, and the massive success of GTA Online’s business model has altered the direction in which the company will likely want their games to evolve.

Let’s break down the major influencers of the “new” Rockstar Games.

First of all, there is GTA 5 itself, the prodigal son, if you will. There is the absence of Leslie Benzies, whose influence shaped the games that he worked on significantly. Finally, there is the general change in directive within Rockstar from singleplayer focused titles to persistent, long-term multiplayer “services.”

But how do all of these affect Red Dead Redemption 2?

The Grand Theft Auto 5 Effect
Volumes have been written about the potential influence GTA 5 might have on Red Dead Redemption 2, but the main beats are usually the same.

We saw a new precedent set with Rockstar wherein the multiplayer component got more attention post-launch. So much so to the point of there not being any new single player content at all. GTA has been a singleplayer franchise first and foremost throughout its history, but the most recent title threw this tradition, and to great monetary success.






Many fans fear that this will result in Rockstar banking on a similar effect and developing Red Dead Redemption 2 with this in mind. GTA Online wasn’t expected to be so successful, and Rockstar even announced single player DLC at one point. But the unprecedented amount of popularity that Online received seemingly changed their plans, with more budget allocated to Online DLC until any hope for new single player content was quietly killed off.

In light of GTA Online’s success, it’s possible that Rockstar will develop Red Dead Redemption 2 with more focus invested in the multiplayer component from the get-go. While they know that there is still massive expectations for the campaign mode, as Red Dead Redemption’s story was what gained it fame in 2010, we should expect a more consistent ratio in polish than in the case of GTA 5, where the single player obviously got more love during initial development.

The Benz
Then there’s the departure of Leslie Benzies. We covered this a bit in the past, noting how the Housers themselves described him as the savior of Red Dead Redemption. When development was way off track and unorganized, Benzies dropped in and whacked things into shape, resulting in the legendary classic that has enthralled fans since 2010.

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Benzies’ influence is also a major element of GTA. He acted as producer on the franchise since Grand Theft Auto III, and many credit him as being the “mastermind” behind the franchise.






With GTA 5 it was him that convinced the Housers there was a future in Online since the brothers reportedly dismissed the idea at first. Then, after the concept was given weight, Benzies openly opposed the microtransaction business model, which the Housers were pushing onto the multiplayer aspect.

Not long after this Benzies left for an extended holiday, only to return to the news that he’d been fired. Since it was Benzies whose influence saw Red Dead Redemption become what it is, his absence could be cause for worry.

Story Mode Versus Online
Finally, there is the general shift in tone and direction that Rockstar seems to be pursuing.

GTA Online’s massive success has given them a taste of what it’s like being a truly mainstream developer with a mainstream product, and with audiences this big, the rules change.

The single player focused Rockstar we knew and loved could be turning into a company more focused on producing a multiplayer experience that facilitates expansion – such expansion allowing for long-term content support and a consistent player base open to recurrent spending.

It’s up to Red Dead Redemption 2 to either prove or disprove these predictions and suspicions. The DLC being released for GTA Online is hardly enough to get a good profile on where Rockstar’s future is heading, but the upcoming Western title will be emblematic of what kind of a developer they want to be from this point on.






We’re not saying that the single player component of Red Dead Redemption 2 will be unpolished, completely neglected or half-baked.

There is a reputation to uphold and a legacy to honor here, and Rockstar won’t be prepared to abandon its roots. We’re certain Red Dead Redemption 2 will deliver a compelling and fantastic storyline with plenty of single player content to entertain us for a good hundred hours or more.

However, at the same time, more focus will be given to multiplayer. Man hours and money will be invested in Red Dead Online that might have otherwise been invested into the single player.

All that remains to be seen is whether Rockstar can pull it off and make both game modes amazing. We’re guessing they can.
 
I hope the single player campaign is solid. Hopefully a new GTA is coming sometime this century and not 2135.
 
I doubt a second delay is coming. Most likely the delay came from the online portion to avoid the GTA online launch problems.

last I heard they trying to get sony to buckle and allow cross-play w/ microsoft
 
Red Dead Redemption 2 - STORY INFO Revealed By Insider! Upcoming Reveal Q&A + Second Trailer Theory!
 
Hope the trailer is like the old RDR trailer

Red Dead Redemption Trailer - Living in the West
 
Hope the trailer is like the old RDR trailer

Red Dead Redemption Trailer - Living in the West

I doubt were get that much. Seems like something they're release closer to release date. Going off the misdirection of the GTA trailers were probably just getting some story trailer with the protagonist or protagonistS if there's more than one playable lead character. Maybe a hard release date.
 
Nothing that hyped me up like the first trailer. The cross bow is nice. I'll stay my ass out those swamps fucking with those crocs.
 
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Red Dead Redemption 2: Things You Might've Missed In Trailer 2



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#2. Touched on that their may still be 3 protagonist to this game. The second GTA 5 trailer only showed Michael. Authur Morgan isn't much of a gray area redeemable character based on the trailer.
 
Noire didn't have MP and ain't getting a sequel any time soon.


I think if they play it right, the might be able to jumpstart the Noire franchise. I never copped it last gen, but it was always on the list. Im gonna scoop it up in November when it drops. I think a fair amount of people will too. It could go from one of those gems people never played, to getting enough buzz to maybe warrant a sequel.
 
Fans Are Trying To Map Out Red Dead Redemption 2 Before It's Released

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It’s been nearly a year since GTAForums member RedDagger started a thread dedicated to “landmark analysis” of Red Dead Redemption 2—a game that, at the time, was still nowhere close to coming out. “The aim is to get an idea of real-world locations within the game, and hopefully recreate the in-game map, using official trailers and screenshots,” RedDagger wrote.

In the months since, the thread has blossomed into a behemoth of nearly 30 pages, a connect-the-dots effort that’s one part legitimate sleuthing effort and one part that conspiracy image of Charlie Day from It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia. This, despite the fact that Red Dead Redemption 2 trailers and screenshots have been so scarce that it’s considered a gosh-danged-to-heck event every time Rockstar reveals something new.

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The biggest boon to the mapping effort has also become one of its most controversial elements. Around the time Red Dead Redemption 2 was announced last year, somebody posted what they claimed was a“leaked” image of the game’s map to NeoGAF. The map was taken down, but not before it spread to the roughest, rowdiest corners of the internet, and Techradar spoke to a source who claimed the map was real. As Rockstar’s divulged more info about Red Dead Redemption 2, locations from the map have shown up in trailers, lending it credence. Mappers have taken to identifying landmarks and then placing events from trailers at their approximate locations on the map.

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One user, Alz, compared the leaked map to the maps from the first Red Dead Redemption and Grand Theft Auto V. Red Dead 2 weighed in at 91,207 pixels, or around 8.8 square miles, while Red Dead 1 was a more svelte 59,385 pixels, or 5.8 square miles, and GTA V tipped the scales at 230,257 pixels, or around 22.3 square miles. But one shouldn’t directly compare the two map sizes, since they’re from radically different games. “It should be obvious though traveling across land will be slower on horse than a Ferrari,” Alz said. “It will still feel very big in the sequel.”

A few mappers, however, are still skeptical of the leak, or at least worry that it might end up dated or inaccurate when the game finally releases in the spring of 2018.

“I still see no reason to give the ‘leaked map’ any credence,” wrote user Chinese Takeout. “Everything I see posted here since it leaked is purely confirmation bias. I remain committed to sketching out the map from the official sources we have been given (2 trailers and some screens).”

“I think most of us agree now that the ‘leaked’ map is just too good to be a fake/fan made map,” wrote a user named DuPz0r. “Even though the evidence is overwhelming, I will still create my fan map alongside the trailers and screenshots with no influence from the leaked map.”

So even though not everyone agrees on how to go about mapping out the game, it’s clear that they’re making serious progress. We’ll see if the mappers are right soon, unless Jason Schreier delays the game again.

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The focus has shifted from story driven single player experiences to multiplayer, one of the leading figures of the company left amid turbulence, and the massive success of GTA Online’s business model has altered the direction in which the company will likely want their games to evolve.

Not long after this Benzies left for an extended holiday, only to return to the news that he’d been fired. Since it was Benzies whose influence saw Red Dead Redemption become what it is, his absence could be cause for worry.
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