Rashad Evans: I know I could beat Anderson Silva because of the way his style is.

[Ming Fei Hong]

Well we all know what would happen if Evans or damn near anyone else tries to stand up against Silva so just based on that taking him down would be the better tactic. If Machida knocked Evans the fuck out when he tried to stand up and trade with him what will Silva do to him if he tried that tactic?

Unfortunately, taking Silva down hasn't proved to be any more successful. The person who beats Silva is simply going to have to beat him at his own game. Trying to capitalize off some perceived weakness of his is, so far, a winless effort. The only two fighters near his weight class with a shot at Silva is GSP or Jon Jones... Jones more so than GSP. And neither of them are guaranteed a W. Silva's just that nasty. Evans would be outclassed.

 

[drewmadara96]

If Rashad couldn't beat Machida he cannot beat Silva.

 

[Jay_from_dade]

If Rashad couldn't beat Machida he cannot beat Silva.

Rashad to cocky, every since Machida knocked his ass out his fights have not been interesting in the least. He can talk his way into that payday if he likes but Silva is not Jones and he will knock Rashad ass out and that will be the end of his story.

Rashad is a damn fool!!! He couldn't even handle Bones Jones.

Fuck Out Of Here Wit Dat BULLSHIT!!!

Resolve. Thread Closed.

 

[Theo_Huxtable]

Hopefully Rashad pushes for it as long as he beats Lil Nog tonight. It's still his decision if he wants to make that weight cut though. He'll get finished by Silva most likely but he's the opinion for now since Dana & co. fuct around in the MW division making a bunch of contender v non-contender fights with the contender losing.​

 

[DragonXJC]

Hopefully Rashad pushes for it as long as he beats Lil Nog tonight. It's still his decision if he wants to make that weight cut though. He'll get finished by Silva most likely but he's the opinion for now since Dana & co. fuct around in the MW division making a bunch of contender v non-contender fights with the contender losing.​

Nope, time to retire.

 

[Johnny_2_Clips]

Nope, time to retire.

Naw. I honestly just think he needs to move down to Middleweight. He still seems undersized to me against most Light-Heavweights. I honestly think Evans needs to suck it up and go back to Team Jackson. Because something is off...

 

[Bones]

Yeah ok Rashad, Silva will trash him

 

[Helico-pterFunk]

I'd rather watch LIL' NOG face Silva at this point. Just kidding. as for the future ... sounds like Weidman will eventually get his shot next. It was pegged for Bisping, but he lost to Belfort (and Belfort himself isn't ready for a title shot just yet as he lost to SILVA at 185 in Feb. 2011 and JONES at 205 in Sept. 2012).

 

[ron_mexico]

What tools does Rashad actually have to be able to beat Silva???
We have to realize NO ONE has ever pushed Silva to dig down and display his entire skill set to survive a fight.
You can't say Sonnen did because Silva was clean after tha fight while Sonnen looked like shit but everybody didn't see him beating Sonnens face in
while he was on his back while Sonnen was slinging wildly and hitting almost nothing.
So if wrestling is one of Evans tools than thats fail cause Silva has NO problems beating on someones face while on his back and eventually using his Jiu-Jitsu to submit them.

I believe that a striker has almost zero chance to beat Silva, so therefore it would take a wrestler, because only wrestlers have ever been able to win a round against Silva. And you don't have to beat him up and make him push deep to survive the fight..all you have to do is win the round.

Rashad is a very good wrestler and is explosive. Theoretically that could cause Silva problems because Rashad is fast enough to secure the takedown, he has much better sub defense skills than Sonnen, and can cause more damage from the top than Sonnen. The problem with Rashad..(as I stated earlier) is his mindset. He fights too hesitant and he showed that again against Lil Nog. If you stand in front of Silva its lights out. Plus Rashads suspect chin..

Despite Rashad's little chance against Silva..his chances are higher than 95% of any other possible opponent you could name. Maybe Weidman is the only other wrestler who could give Silva a challenge.

 

[DaAssWatcher]

I believe that a striker has almost zero chance to beat Silva, so therefore it would take a wrestler, because only wrestlers have ever been able to win a round against Silva. And you don't have to beat him up and make him push deep to survive the fight..all you have to do is win the round.

Rashad is a very good wrestler and is explosive. Theoretically that could cause Silva problems because Rashad is fast enough to secure the takedown, he has much better sub defense skills than Sonnen, and can cause more damage from the top than Sonnen. The problem with Rashad..(as I stated earlier) is his mindset. He fights too hesitant and he showed that again against Lil Nog. If you stand in front of Silva its lights out. Plus Rashads suspect chin..

Despite Rashad's little chance against Silva..his chances are higher than 95% of any other possible opponent you could name. Maybe Weidman is the only other wrestler who could give Silva a challenge.

A 5 round fight with a healthy Silva how many of those rounds did tha wrestlers win????What round did the fight end for all of them???

/

 

[CADE_BADAZZ]

I have to say it but without Jackson, I don't think he will do well against top level guys like he used and his head seems to be fucked up lately.

 

[2211]

Rashad chances for sucess are long gone, he need to work on his mic work and continue to work toward becoming a better comentator.

 

[ron_mexico]

A 5 round fight with a healthy Silva how many of those rounds did tha wrestlers win????What round did the fight end for all of them???

/

Dan Henderson took Silva down and won a round.
Travis Lutter took Silva down and even full mounted him.

Many folks don't even realize Thales Leites actually took Silva down.

And even since you want to discredit the entire first Sonnen Silva fight. Sonnen still won the first round of their second fight.

What difference does it make what round the fight ended?? they all eventually loss. But the point remains they had more success than any striker has against Silva.


Except for Lattes...

 

[DaAssWatcher]

Dan Henderson took Silva down and won a round.
Travis Lutter took Silva down and even full mounted him.

Many folks don't even realize Thales Leites actually took Silva down.

And even since you want to discredit the entire first Sonnen Silva fight. Sonnen still won the first round of their second fight.

What difference does it make what round the fight ended?? they all eventually loss. But the point remains they had more success than any striker has against Silva.


Except for Lattes...

They ALL got punished in tha second is my point.You notice they had zero success after their 1st rounds.Straight beat down AND FIGHT OVER.
No different with Rashad except he'll most likely lose in tha 1st.

 

[DragonXJC]

The only way Rashad beating Silva now is by copping this...

 

[ron_mexico]

They ALL got punished in tha second is my point.You notice they had zero success after their 1st rounds.Straight beat down AND FIGHT OVER.
No different with Rashad except he'll most likely lose in tha 1st.

Ok..they had Zero success after their initial success??

What striker had any success? Which was My point the entire time.. Wrestlers had more of a chance than strikers. More of does not mean a great chance..Its means they have more than the other option.

Rashad has more chance theoretically than the vast majority of any possible opponent other than Jon Jones.

 

[DaAssWatcher]

Ok..they had Zero success after their initial success??

What striker had any success? Which was My point the entire time.. Wrestlers had more of a chance than strikers. More of does not mean a great chance..Its means they have more than the other option.

Rashad has more chance theoretically than the vast majority of any possible opponent other than Jon Jones.

He couldn't even do shit with Lil Nog he stands no chance with Silva.
I mean who really talks about tha wrestlers Silva fought besides saying they got their asses kicked to.Hendo had a chance but that quickly went up in flames tha second round.He actually delivered more clean shots on tha ground than Sonnen did in 6 rounds but tha results were tha same.Tha punches were clean but were ineffective and Hendo is no light puncher.

 

[ron_mexico]

He couldn't even do shit with Lil Nog he stands no chance with Silva.
I mean who really talks about tha wrestlers Silva fought besides saying they got their asses kicked to.Hendo had a chance but that quickly went up in flames tha second round.He actually delivered more clean shots on tha ground than Sonnen did in 6 rounds but tha results were tha same.Tha punches were clean but were ineffective and Hendo is no light puncher.

Unless your trying to argue that a striker has a better chance against silva and have some evidence to back your claim, then your not countering anything I have said. If you want me to say no likely opponent has any chance period, then why are we even watching Silva fights anymore? If you are saying there is a fighter other than Jon Jones that has a better chance than Rashad then make your argument. But you are argument is not even lining up with the points I'm making.

That point again...a wrestler has a better chance than a striker...not a great chance..a better chance than a striker...Rashad is probably the best chance of those possible wrestlers..IMO the Jone jones fight is unlikley to happen so thats why I dont really include Jones as a possible contender.

 

[Theo_Huxtable]

Ok..they had Zero success after their initial success??

What striker had any success? Which was My point the entire time.. Wrestlers had more of a chance than strikers. More of does not mean a great chance..Its means they have more than the other option.

Rashad has more chance theoretically than the vast majority of any possible opponent other than Jon Jones.

Silva will sub any wrestler that takes him down eventually in a 5 round fight. Silva's closest weakness are better BJJ guys. Look at his performances against BJJ specialist, plus subs were his only most recent loses.​

 

[DaAssWatcher]

Unless your trying to argue that a striker has a better chance against silva and have some evidence to back your claim, then your not countering anything I have said. If you want me to say no likely opponent has any chance period, then why are we even watching Silva fights anymore? If you are saying there is a fighter other than Jon Jones that has a better chance than Rashad then make your argument. But you are argument is not even lining up with the points I'm making.

That point again...a wrestler has a better chance than a striker...not a great chance..a better chance than a striker...Rashad is probably the best chance of those possible wrestlers..IMO the Jone jones fight is unlikley to happen so thats why I dont really include Jones as a possible contender.

You keep saying Rashad has tha best chance based off what???
And my point is winning 1 round is good but when A no damage is done and B you still lose BIG in tha second round so in tha end 1 round with no damage done is still tha same as losing 2 rounds like most strikers Silva faces end up.
If you can't duplicate your minimal success that you had in tha 1st round then you don't stand a better chance.Silvas never went to his corner after tha 1st round looking overwhelmed after fighting a wrestler.

 

[ron_mexico]

Silva will sub any wrestler that takes him down eventually in a 5 round fight. Silva's closest weakness are better BJJ guys. Look at his performances against BJJ specialist, plus subs were his only most recent loses.​

A BJJ specialist has less chance than a wrestler if he can't even get Silva down. Look at Maia...the only other BJJ specialist was leites...which was the most embarrassing fight in mma history. In fact Silva toyed with them both so bad, folks were critising him and questioned his motivation to fight anymore.

 

[ron_mexico]

You keep saying Rashad has tha best chance based off what???
And my point is winning 1 round is good but when A no damage is done and B you still lose BIG in tha second round so in tha end 1 round with no damage done is still tha same as losing 2 rounds like most strikers Silva faces end up.
If you can't duplicate your minimal success that you had in tha 1st round then you don't stand a better chance.Silvas never went to his corner after tha 1st round looking overwhelmed after fighting a wrestler.

Bro..name a fighter other than Jon Jones who has a better chance than rashad then we can be on the same discussion. Other than that, your saying no one has even the slightest possibility of beating Silva..everyone's chances are the same at zero%.

 

[Theo_Huxtable]

A BJJ specialist has less chance than a wrestler if he can't even get Silva down. Look at Maia...the only other BJJ specialist was leites...which was the most embarrassing fight in mma history. In fact Silva toyed with them both so bad, folks were critising him and questioned his motivation to fight anymore.

Just because Sonnen had multiple rounds of success taking Silva down with an injured rib doesn't suddenly mean wrestling is his weakness. Okami, Sonnen, Henderson are all wrestlers, Marquardt isn't bad either...he's destroyed them all. A wrestler is not the problem.

No one right now is beating Silva, but the only match up I think gives him any real trouble is a strong BJJ fighter.​

 

[sumofyallniggasisbitches2]

Dude should have never left Jackson's camp, or should have joined another established camp. The Blackzillians suck as a squad....Every one of those idiots lost tonight, and every time I see one fight they lose.... Lots of hype, few results

 

[DaAssWatcher]

Dude should have never left Jackson's camp, or should have joined another established camp. The Blackzillians suck as a squad....Every one of those idiots lost tonight, and every time I see one fight they lose.... Lots of hype, few results

Only Vitor has a victory.Its embarrassing watching them cats.And their leader has lost his confidence and they got tha old Overeem riding with them.

 

[ron_mexico]

Just because Sonnen had multiple rounds of success taking Silva down with an injured rib doesn't suddenly mean wrestling is his weakness. Okami, Sonnen, Henderson are all wrestlers, Marquardt isn't bad either...he's destroyed them all. A wrestler is not the problem.

No one right now is beating Silva, but the only match up I think gives him any real trouble is a strong BJJ fighter.​

Again..its all relative. Wrestling isn't a weakness for Silva per se. But compared to his other abilities, its the only part of his game with any hope of exploiting.

And yes he destroyed them all, but again, by comparison..Sonnen Henderson, Marquart and Ill throw in Lutter.. all did better than any other fighter who did not secure a takedown. All the primary strikers Silva faced, were embarrassing loses. Leben, Griffin, Rich Franklin even Vitor took a foot to his face..

You cats are acting like I'm saying wrestlers will dominate silva ..from the start I've just compared the chances of wrestler vs a striker and the odds slightly favor a wrestler.

Again to your point of a strong bjj guy giving Silva trouble..who is this guy you speak of? We have the maia fight and leites fight to go off of. Two top of the food chain bjj guys and two of the most embarrassing fights in mma history. They definitely did not do better than Sonnen, Henderson and Marquart..hell they did worse than the strikers.. The only other top level bjj guy who is much better than Silva on the ground is probably rousimar palhares..(off the top of my head) Do you think he is a better fight than Rashad?

 

[Theo_Huxtable]

Again..its all relative. Wrestling isn't a weakness for Silva per se. But compared to his other abilities, its the only part of his game with any hope of exploiting.

And yes he destroyed them all, but again, by comparison..Sonnen Henderson, Marquart and Ill throw in Lutter.. all did better than any other fighter who did not secure a takedown. All the primary strikers Silva face were embarrassing loses. Leben, Griffin, Rich Franklin even Vitor took a foot to his face..

You cats are acting like I'm saying wrestlers will dominate silva ..from the start I've just compared the chances of wrestler vs a striker and the odds slightly favor a wrestler.

Again to your point of a strong bjj guy giving Silva trouble..who is this guy you speak of? We have the maia fight and leites fight to go off of. Two top of the food chain bjj guys and two of the most embarrassing fights in mma history. They definitely did not do better than Sonnen, Henderson and Marquart..hell they did worse than the strikers.. The only other top level bjj guy who is much better than Silva on the ground is probably rousimar palhares..(off the top of my head) Do you think he is a better fight than Rashad?

The Maia and Leites fights went 5 rds and Silva barely engaged for a reason. They were his poorest performances as I've mentioned. Plus he's lost by sub, not by wrestling. It's a common misunderstanding that wrestling is Silva's biggest weakness, but it's been proven over & over again you can't beat him with that.

Styles make fights and Palhares would be no worse or better than Rashad. Palhares is a ONLY good at BJJ but that's what worries Silva most and keeps him at bay. Rashad doesn't really have KO power and nor has his wrestling even been effective in his past few fights now. So I think Silva actually TKOs Evans at some point but he'd might UD Palhares like he did Leites & Maia. Silva doesn't mind wrestlers but he seems to hate fighting top BJJ guys, there's a reason for that is what I'm saying.​

 

[ron_mexico]

The Maia and Leites fights went 5 rds and Silva barely engaged for a reason. They were his poorest performances as I've mentioned. Plus he's lost by sub, not by wrestling. It's a common misunderstanding that wrestling is Silva's biggest weakness, but it's been proven over & over again you can't beat him with that.

Styles make fights and Palhares would be no worse or better than Rashad. Palhares is a ONLY good at BJJ but that's what worries Silva most and keeps him at bay. Rashad doesn't really have KO power and nor has his wrestling even been effective in his past few fights now. So I think Silva actually TKOs Evans at some point but he'd might UD Palhares like he did Leites & Maia. Silva doesn't mind wrestlers but he seems to hate fighting top BJJ guys, there's a reason for that is what I'm saying.​

Silva barely engaged Lietes and Maia because they also did not engage him. It wasn't their bjj that kept him at Bay, it was their unwillingness to engage,because they know Silva likes to counter. They knew as well as he did that they were no offensive threat and were hoping against hope that somehow the fight would end up on the ground.

At least a wrestler has the option of offense and would put Silva in a position where he has to perform, even if its to stuff the takedown. If a BJJ guy has no wrestling ability he is no threat what so ever.

Having said all this, I think Silva KO's Rashad in the 1st round.. But keep in mind, all along my argument is based on theory. Rashad has the tools IMO to give Silva problems, but his history shows me he wont use them properly. Palhares like 90% of bjj guys,may have the tools, but is lacking the other tools necessary to use thier main tool..meaning..they don't have the takedown ability to use their bjj in the first place.

Its been a looong time since his submission defeats, one of them a fluky sub anyway and his BJJ has improved greatly since then. When he first started fighting he really didn't know bjj like that. It wasn't until he hooked up with Nogueira. Since being in the UFC. You have to go back to Lutter to find a BJJ guy that has mounted any offense on him. And ironically, his increase in takedown defense has made it less likely for BJJ guys to get him down more so than wrestlers..

 

[Megatron X]

First Quinton now Rashad. Both put on poor performances in the last two weeks. They both lost fights to lames who they should not have lost to. Quinton and Rashad were at one time two of some of the best light heavyweights. The Brazillians have been doing good in the last two weeks.

I think Quinton should hang it up cause he does not have it anymore. If the Rampage who fought Machida showed up he would have beaten that Glover dude. If the Rashad who fought Thiago Silva showed up he would have beaten Nogueira.

What a shame.

 

[Theo_Huxtable]

Silva barely engaged Lietes and Maia because they also did not engage him. It wasn't their bjj that kept him at Bay, it was their unwillingness to engage,because they know Silva likes to counter. They knew as well as he did that they were no offensive threat and were hoping against hope that somehow the fight would end up on the ground.

At least a wrestler has the option of offense and would put Silva in a position where he has to perform, even if its to stuff the takedown. If a BJJ guy has no wrestling ability he is no threat what so ever.

Having said all this, I think Silva KO's Rashad in the 1st round.. But keep in mind, all along my argument is based on theory. Rashad has the tools IMO to give Silva problems, but his history shows me he wont use them properly. Palhares like 90% of bjj guys,may have the tools, but is lacking the other tools necessary to use thier main tool..meaning..they don't have the takedown ability to use their bjj in the first place.

Its been a looong time since his submission defeats, one of them a fluky sub anyway and his BJJ has improved greatly since then. When he first started fighting he really didn't know bjj like that. It wasn't until he hooked up with Nogueira. Since being in the UFC. You have to go back to Lutter to find a BJJ guy that has mounted any offense on him. And ironically, his increase in takedown defense has made it less likely for BJJ guys to get him down more so than wrestlers..

Again, all I'm saying is IF Silva is gonna lose to any type of style, it will still be BJJ (again) and that a wrestler really isn't his weak point or as big of a threat people like to believe it is for him.​