R. Kelly charged with 10 counts of aggravated criminal sexual abuse [UPDATE: GUILTY OF RACKETEERING]

R. Kelly Pleads Not Guilty to Sex-Abuse Charges, Faces Lawsuit From New Underage Accuser

R. Kelly appeared in court again on Monday where his lawyers pleaded not guilty on his behalf to ten charges of aggravated criminal sexual assault against four women, including three minors, that were filed against him on Friday. Kelly turned himself in on Friday night and remains in jail after failing to post bond over the weekend. On Monday, attorney Michael Avenatti, who is representing one of the three underage victims in the case, said he submitted to prosecutors a second video tape allegedly showing more evidence of Kelly sexually assaulting an underage girl in 1999 or 2000. He previously gave prosecutors a video of Kelly allegedly sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl; the alleged victim in the second tape is also said to be 14, though Avenatti did not confirm if it is the same girl from the first tape. Avenatti said he also has knowledge that a third tape exists, but did not provide further details.

Kelly is also facing a new lawsuit from a woman who claims he sexually assaulted her when she was a minor. TMZ reports that a woman named Heather Williams filed the lawsuit on Monday in Cook County, accusing Kelly of sexually abusing her for years beginning in 1996 when she was 16 years old. She says the two met when she was walking down the street and Kelly pulled over in his car to speak to her, and later sent his associates to meet her and her family under the pretenses of Williams appearing in one of Kelly’s music videos.

Associated Press, Kelly’s associates are attempting to come up with the $100,000 minimum to post Kelly’s bond after Kelly’s lawyer previously described the singer’s finances as a “mess.” Kelly’s next court date is scheduled for March 22.
 
........and now theres another tape. :itsawrap:

http://m.tmz.com/#!article/2019/02/...-tape-michael-avenatti-chicago-criminal-case/

2/25/19 1:00 AM PST
AVENATTI WILL TURN OVER NEW SEX TAPE
... MORE DEPRAVED THAN 1ST

Prosecutors are about to get another sex tape in the case, and sources tell us it is even more shocking than the most recent one.

Sources familiar tell TMZ ... attorney will turn over a 55-minute VHS video Monday to Cook County prosecutors. We're told the video shows R. Kelly having sex with the same 14-year-old girl depicted in the first video Avenatti obtained, which was shot in 1999. This second video was shot around 2000.

We're told, there are multiple references to the girl being 14 years old. Our sources say R. Kelly is repeatedly "coaching" the girl through various sexual situations.

At one point, we're told R. Kelly is seen choking the girl while having anal intercourse. Our sources also say there's a part where he takes some sort of lotion and "sprays" it all over her face. We're told he then chokes her, mounts her from behind and turns her face to camera for a reaction shot.

We've also learned Avenatti is in the process of procuring a third tape showing R. Kelly with a different girl -- whom, at the time, was somewhere between 13 and 16 years old. Our sources say Avenatti's team has identified the person in possession of the video and is attempting to get it.
:itsawrap:
 
If you’re not the so called perpetrator but you’re defending him, ask yourself why? Are you a pedo too and now you’re living vicariously through Kelly?


Quote the point where i defended r kelly or stated that i was on his side. All I did was address the bs hustle that many in this thread keep ignroing...and also stated how I'm not enthused by this clown celeb /red herring bs. nice try tho.....
 
Kelly is also facing a new lawsuit from a woman who claims he sexually assaulted her when she was a minor. TMZ reports that a woman named Heather Williams filed the lawsuit on Monday in Cook County, accusing Kelly of sexually abusing her for years beginning in 1996 when she was 16 years old. She says the two met when she was walking down the street and Kelly pulled over in his car to speak to her, and later sent his associates to meet her and her family under the pretenses of Williams appearing in one of Kelly’s music videos.

:smh: and these female simps still trying to bail him out? i bet IF he does make bail he'll be on the next flight smokin' out of Chicago..

then a few years down the line we'll be hearing how R "is having a HUGE career resurgence in Europe" :rolleyes:
 
........and now theres another tape. :itsawrap:

http://m.tmz.com/#!article/2019/02/...-tape-michael-avenatti-chicago-criminal-case/

2/25/19 1:00 AM PST
AVENATTI WILL TURN OVER NEW SEX TAPE
... MORE DEPRAVED THAN 1ST

Prosecutors are about to get another sex tape in the case, and sources tell us it is even more shocking than the most recent one.

Sources familiar tell TMZ ... attorney will turn over a 55-minute VHS video Monday to Cook County prosecutors. We're told the video shows R. Kelly having sex with the same 14-year-old girl depicted in the first video Avenatti obtained, which was shot in 1999. This second video was shot around 2000.

We're told, there are multiple references to the girl being 14 years old. Our sources say R. Kelly is repeatedly "coaching" the girl through various sexual situations.

At one point, we're told R. Kelly is seen choking the girl while having anal intercourse. Our sources also say there's a part where he takes some sort of lotion and "sprays" it all over her face. We're told he then chokes her, mounts her from behind and turns her face to camera for a reaction shot.

We've also learned Avenatti is in the process of procuring a third tape showing R. Kelly with a different girl -- whom, at the time, was somewhere between 13 and 16 years old. Our sources say Avenatti's team has identified the person in possession of the video and is attempting to get it.

I'm sure this muthafucka got a gang of tapes out there. Whoever has them can probably handover one every week for the next two year straight. Sick bitch. Fuck any cocksucka on here that says anything in support of the rotten son of a bitch.

Update: Bitch was just released on bail
 
Translation: he knows he's dealing with former young groupie thots who are now bitter, older & broke- and trying to collect late interest off their high mileage pussies- via acting like their suffering from ptsd...during the MeToo era. So its time for R Kelly to play broke.

You have to be a fool to think R Kelly doesnt have 100k to get released from jail.

If youre not one of the so called "victims", but your celebrating this, ask yourself why? Did u get molested or something and now youre living vicariously through this experience? Do you really think this is about Black Women being ignored (when it pertains to MeToo, domestic violence, Feminism etc)? Does quickly building cases against jussie smollett and R kelly show us that Chicago/CPD/Cook county is competent when it pertains to serving justice?

fuck outta here with this bs! :lol:

You're trying to clown people for being happy that a predator may finally be getting his ass locked up. Is that how they do it in The Chi? Long as it doesn't affect you right?

now u get it, we not and never did anything. We don't caaare! . So leave him alone. Stop letting other motherfuckers dictate to you what is a prollem and what isn't. It's brain dead for people to wait for whitey to tell you some shit is wrong b4 niggas get up in arms.

#shameful

"We" never did anything? What the fuck were we supposed to do? Raid this nigga's properties looking for evidence? Snatch him out of his hotel room late at night and hold him over a bridge demanding a confession? Send him a young-looking broads on some sting operation-type shit? How was anyone outside of law enforcement/his inner circle supposed to be able to do anything about his crimes? Nigga what?

See when you know and are connected to your culuture and heritage you also are connected to their laws*. So your concept of right and wrong moral and immoral isnt based off of american laws. What r kelly did if he lived in any all black country where we regulate our own laws, would not be facing a dam life sentence for having sex with a woman old enough to get pregnant.

This nigga's ready to take up the mantle of his fallen idol like some fucked-up alternate-reality Robin or some shit.
 
You're trying to clown people for being happy that a predator may finally be getting his ass locked up. Is that how they do it in The Chi? Long as it doesn't affect you right?



"We" never did anything? What the fuck were we supposed to do? Raid this nigga's properties looking for evidence? Snatch him out of his hotel room late at night and hold him over a bridge demanding a confession? Send him a young-looking broads on some sting operation-type shit? How was anyone outside of law enforcement/his inner circle supposed to be able to do anything about his crimes? Nigga what?



This nigga's ready to take up the mantle of his fallen idol like some fucked-up alternate-reality Robin or some shit.


you just named mad shit "we" could have done... What you mean to say is ' It wasn't worth it to you'
 
The thing is. CACs do the same shit (some straight up rape and molest preteens) and get less time. So until then it is free r kelly.

Shouldnt get a life sentence for something that is legal in other parts of the world.

If you steal in some countries they chop your hand off.....the punishment dont fit the crime. If the punishment fit the crime i would say put him in jail
Go live in one of those countries then......................
 
This the thing about the internet and it not being the real world. You can't have real convos and real dialogue and ask real questions and get real answers.

Is R Kelly guilty? How do you know have you seen the new tapes? Or are you saying he is guilty based off the first trial he was acquitted of? Do you think it is ok to presume he is guilty based off of evidence from a trial he has been vindicated of? Do you think R Kelly has the right to due process?

All these are real questions that when you ask someone on the internet you get ocks, memes, deflections anything to avoid answering the questions. But in the real world when you being cross examined by a defense attorney and they asking you these same questions and you feeling uncomfortable and unease and there is no memes you can post to deflect....that is when you get the real.


Truth is i think R kelly was on the first tape. I also think the punishment he is facing even if he pleads guilty doesnt fit the crime. So i would rather a man walk away innocent and have to settle with the family then 60 70 years in jail. His career is already over at this point.

Him having to give his publishing or music rights to aaliyaj family that is punishment. Him being muted is punishment.

Really sitdown and ask yourself esp if you an atheist (cuz atheist claim to inherently be born knowing right from wrong and they dont need a bible to know right from wrong):

Is it wrong to sleep with a 15 year old if you are 29 because it is illegal or is it wrong because it is immoral?

That is a important question to have and to answer if we claiming to be real. If you cant answer this honestly i know you being fake.
 
He is facing up to 70 years. Now i know that dont mean he gonna be sentenced to that even if convicted. But here is the question i pose: should he get 70 years?

How much time should he get? Anything over 5 years is excessive and i would be inclined to say not guilty
 
He is facing up to 70 years. Now i know that dont mean he gonna be sentenced to that even if convicted. But here is the question i pose: should he get 70 years?

How much time should he get? Anything over 5 years is excessive and i would be inclined to say not guilty
Filming the acts mean the person is not safe to be in the public because he was collecting trophies of these kids.

A light sentence would be a 24 year old fucking. 17 year old because they are within the same age group.

30 plus year old man fucking a 15 year old and video taping it for a trophy collection is sick
 
He is facing up to 70 years. Now i know that dont mean he gonna be sentenced to that even if convicted. But here is the question i pose: should he get 70 years?

How much time should he get? Anything over 5 years is excessive and i would be inclined to say not guilty
From a biology perspective, as soon as a female can reproduce she is ready to have sexual intercourse.

Social Norms are what guide our society. We have been conditioned to view sex as something that is taboo.

But as young kids, being irresponsible is something that goes with being young. The consequences can be severe if we did not protect our kids from diseases to producing children.
 
At one point, we're told R. Kelly is seen choking the girl while having anal intercourse. Our sources also say there's a part where he takes some sort of lotion and "sprays" it all over her face. We're told he then chokes her, mounts her from behind and turns her face to camera for a reaction shot.

He is facing up to 70 years. Now i know that dont mean he gonna be sentenced to that even if convicted. But here is the question i pose: should he get 70 years?

How much time should he get? Anything over 5 years is excessive and i would be inclined to say not guilty

Filming the acts mean the person is not safe to be in the public because he was collecting trophies of these kids.

A light sentence would be a 24 year old fucking. 17 year old because they are within the same age group.

30 plus year old man fucking a 15 year old and video taping it for a trophy collection is sick

If he was doing stuff like that in the top quote to 13-14 year old girls then he deserves 70 years. From what they’re saying he wasn’t just having sex with these young girls he was choking, peeing on, spitting on, slapping, humiliating and beating them. That’s some sick shit to do to a child and then he recorded it all to watch it over and over again:smh::smh:...if those tapes show all that then throw the book at him
 
From a biology perspective, as soon as a female can reproduce she is ready to have sexual intercourse.

Social Norms are what guide our society. We have been conditioned to view sex as something that is taboo.

But as young kids, being irresponsible is something that goes with being young. The consequences can be severe if we did not protect our kids from diseases to producing children.


:scared:
 
Damn! So he has already fucked up

https://pagesix.com/2019/02/26/mich...s-already-violated-conditions-of-his-release/

Michael Avenatti says R. Kelly has already violated conditions of his release

Lawyer Michael Avenatti claimed Tuesday that R. Kelly has already violated the conditions of his release — and he also offered disturbing new details regarding a second sex-assault tape that he turned over to prosecutors in which the disgraced R&B star is allegedly heard saying, “Give me that 14-year-old p—y.”

The “I Believe I Can Fly” singer was released from a Chicago jail Monday after he posted bond and hours after pleading not guilty to charges that he sexually abused four victims, including three underage girls.

Avenatti, who says he represents three alleged Kelly victims, tweeted Tuesday morning: “Upon being released from jail on bond, R Kelly promptly went to the same McDonalds that he preyed on underage girls at for years and proceeded to meet and take pictures with underage girls in violation of his bail conditions…

Among the conditions of Kelly’s release is that the 52-year-old artist have no contact with females younger than 18.

Photos posted to Instagram show Kelly — wearing a coat, hood and sunglasses — eating French fries with his posse at the fast-food joint in downtown Chicago after being released.

Avenatti said that on Monday, he turned over a second videotape to prosecutors that he claims shows Kelly engaged in a sex act with a 14-year-old girl.

“It leaves no doubt as to R. Kelly’s guilt as to these serious sex crimes against underage girls,” Avenatti said in a tweet Tuesday morning.

In that video, Avenatti says Kelly can be heard “clearly stating” to the victim: “Give me that 14-year-old p—y,” “Show Daddy that 14-year-old p—y,” “Spread those legs and show me that 14-year-old p—y,” and “Give me that 14-year-old booty hole.”

“The victim also refers to herself as being 14 years of age repeatedly on tape,” Avenatti said.

The lawyer also claimed that his legal team has “substantial evidence that R. Kelly and his enablers purposely hid this tape from prosecutors in connection with his 2008 trial and obstructed justice by paying witnesses to assist them in an effort to destroy all copies of the tape prior to the trial.”

Kelly, whose legal name is Robert Kelly, was acquitted of child pornography charges in 2008.

The second video is about 55 minutes long and from 1999 or 2000, Avenatti has said. He would not say whether that video depicted the same girl as in the first sex-assault video he handed over to prosecutors, but TMZ, citing sources, reported that it did.

Avenatti says that in addition to the three alleged Kelly victims — two of whom he says are included in the indictment handed down against the recording artist last week — he represents two whistleblowers and two parents “in the R. Kelly matter.”

“I anticipate additional charges will be filed in the coming weeks,” Avenatti tweeted.

The Grammy-winning singer was arrested Friday on 10 counts of aggravated sexual abuse involving incidents from 1998 to 2010.

Kelly’s lawyer has maintained his client’s innocence.
 
Yeah that is a deep conversation. Is a 14 year old having sex wrong or just morally wrong. Kind of a mind fuck type of question. LOL

I can understand a deep conversation like that but I am just a hypocrite..:lol: If my 15 your old son was fucking Beyonce, I would be proud of him and ask if he had footage of Beyonce..:lol:

I would discipline him for being dumb but low key a proud dad. Now if my 15 year old daughter was fucking Lil Wayne or any other older Kat, I would want to murder the brotha
 
If he was doing stuff like that in the top quote to 13-14 year old girls then he deserves 70 years. From what they’re saying he wasn’t just having sex with these young girls he was choking, peeing on, spitting on, slapping, humiliating and beating them. That’s some sick shit to do to a child and then he recorded it all to watch it over and over again:smh::smh:...if those tapes show all that then throw the book at him

Yeah, whether a 14 year old having sex is wrong or morally wrong is another conversation. I get the BGOL fam was just having a deep conversation. I am cool with having deep conversations but I agree with you.

The law is pretty clear and R Kelly new better and not only crossed the line but did some wild shit with choking and Peeing on a young child. :smh: Then to film it makes it even worse
 
Avenatti said that on Monday, he turned over a second videotape to prosecutors that he claims shows Kelly engaged in a sex act with a 14-year-old girl.

“It leaves no doubt as to R. Kelly’s guilt as to these serious sex crimes against underage girls,” Avenatti said in a tweet Tuesday morning.

In that video, Avenatti says Kelly can be heard “clearly stating” to the victim: “Give me that 14-year-old p—y,” “Show Daddy that 14-year-old p—y,” “Spread those legs and show me that 14-year-old p—y,” and “Give me that 14-year-old booty hole.”

Man go on and throw this nigga in prison. He got right out of jail and went back to doing the same type of shit that got him locked up. He must get off on hearing them say they are underaged, “give me that 14 yr old bootyhole”..smh
 
Why tho?!? You ok with him getting away and continuing with his sick activities?

It's not a matter of if I'm okay with what he did. He could've stabbed 20 people and I'd still be shaking my head at the lack of foresight on his part to not get out while an exit was still possible.

Just to be clear I'm not defending anything he did.
 
:lol:

Man, I swear with the level of double standards we can state on both sides, we ain’t never going to get it together.

one side is about getting it together
the other side is about its never our fault
that's the problem lol

especially with r kelly
no dude goes to an r kelly concert without his girl wanting to go or a group of girls wanting to go or going to meet women
none lol

the woman that bailed him out owns a daycare.
 
Avenatti, who says he represents three alleged Kelly victims, tweeted Tuesday morning: “Upon being released from jail on bond, R Kelly promptly went to the same McDonalds that he preyed on underage girls at for years and proceeded to meet and take pictures with underage girls in violation of his bail conditions…
Shit is like meth to him. Maybe that's angle they're gonna try to go with.
 
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