You know there is no reason to even reply to halo's post every thread it(halo) has some bullshit to say about American automobiles but will never answer the important questions. What are you going to do? He's a troll.
R.I.P. Bailout Bill
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You know there is no reason to even reply to halo's post every thread it(halo) has some bullshit to say about American automobiles but will never answer the important questions. What are you going to do? He's a troll.
real talk I don't think the big 3 should get a dime. I think giving them any money is silly unless you put a 20-25% tariff on all foreign automakers, it doesn't matter if they have a plant in the states or not that the only way I see the big 3 surviving.
Dow futures are down 250 points already. I bought silver awhile back at 10.30 and was kicking myself when it dropped to 8 and some change on one of those volatile days. Ford and GM stocks already down 28% in overseas trading.
At first I have to admit I was against this bailout...any bailout...but if the govt is hemorraging money that 14 billion is NOTHING compared to the TRILLION the banks have recieved altogether. Whats funny is most of the public rejected the TARP but I think most people understand this one and would have supported this loan just so the common man could keep his job. It really shows who the govt works for. People should be outraged.
At first I have to admit I was against this bailout...any bailout...but if the govt is hemorraging money that 14 billion is NOTHING compared to the TRILLION the banks have recieved altogether. Whats funny is most of the public rejected the TARP but I think most people understand this one and would have supported this loan just so the common man could keep his job. It really shows who the govt works for. People should be outraged.
On another note,I work for the big three,if these companies fail do you think people are going to stay here and live out of cardboard boxes?Fuck No, there is going to be a mass migration to other states to find work(millions retirees included). Don't think we are not qualified to go into other fields.What people fail to see is this will effect everyone,maybe even some on this board.
you niggas still fallin for the okey doke. the shit will get passed sometime next week, just like all the other bailouts. they have to hem and haw to make it look like they really care to the sheep.
if it doesn't get passed, it's because it was never MEANT to be passed. cutting down such a big part of the industry will only serve to make people more willing to accept what's coming. that big ass nafta highway is gonna be overcrowded with broke people trying to find work.
if it doesn't get passed, it's because it was never MEANT to be passed. cutting down such a big part of the industry will only serve to make people more willing to accept what's coming. that big ass nafta highway is gonna be overcrowded with broke people trying to find work.
YOU GTFOH!
What are the UAW's members gonna live off of if those shitty-ass cars that Detroit puts out don't SELL AT ALL?
What are the UAW's Members gonna live off of IF THE PLANTS HAVE TO CLOSE?
The UAW fighting for "LIVABLE WAGES" won't work worth a damn if the COMPANY GOES THE FUCK OUTTA BUSINESS, this is the wrong fuckin' time to pull that Union Card bullshit about keeping WAGES HIGH!
Any other INDUSTRY would have been already closed by now, down here in Ga. a lot of TEXTILE JOBS have gone overseas damn near 10 years ago, ya'll bitches in Detroit need to realize ya'll ain't SPECIAL and learn how to SURVIVE in this fucked up economy and then when shit rebounds, THEN YOU CAN WORRY ABOUT WAGES!
You can't worry about dirty bathrooms when the fucking ship is SINKING, you gotta keep that muthafucka AFLOAT FIRST and then worry about OTHER SHIT, the UAW needs to understand this.
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- hey man what's your fucking problem!?!? this is the SECOND time you've posted this picture saying it's me...
my name is SIRWOODZ...do you see that big ass Z at the end of my name?!?!
and why are you googling up muthafuckas names on here!?!? man I can HONESTLY say that i've NEVER googled up a mofoe on heres screen name in hopes of finding their picture. and wtf is wrong w/this picture!? a DUDE with headphones on!! WOW!! so shocking!! so GAY!! is that what you want people to say!? "OH HOW GAY!!"
some of yall cats need some psychotherapy QUICK!!!
Repubs are just a bunch of selfish greedy crackas that just look out the best interest of themselves and not the taxpayers. When the Big 3 requested for funds from the $700 mil they immediately shut them down and now they came up with their own "ballout" bill that would jeopardize millions of jobs they shut them down. Pres. Bush needs to get some fuckin balls and do what is right. That cracka got a 1st class ticket to hell waiting on him.
GM is just a bunch of greedy executives that just look out for the best interest of themselves and not their employees or the Amercan consumer.
Hold on to your breeches...It's bought to get REAL ugly. People gonna have to start growing 'victory' gardens.
Yeah but unlike those individuals from AIG that took part of that bailout money to spend on vacations and spas the execs from GM were willing to work for an annual salry of $1. You didn't see any of them crackas from the Bank Bailout make a sacrifice. Yeah I know the execs already got money stacked to the ceiling but shyt they made a better proposition to congress than the banks.
LOL AT HIM SAYING ITS DISAPPOINTING AS FAR AS THESE AUTOMAKERS LOLOL,
I don't know what to think of this. I'm kinda glad but at the same time I'm like damn.
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FUCKIN PREACH BROTHA..
THATS EXACTLY WHAT I AM SAYING..
JUST SO YALL KNOW..
THE AVG PLANT WORKER IN THE BIG 3 WAGES AND BENFITS INCLUDED AVG 75.00 AN HOUR...!!
THE AVG FOR HONDA AND TOYOTA 45.00 AN HOUR "PLUS THEY MAKE BETTER CARS"...
THE UNION IS PULLING THIS SHIT AND ONCE THE COMPANIES TANK THEN WHAT..
IMMA TELL YALL LIKE THIS.. THE UNIONS AND REPLUBICANS ARE AT FAULT HERE.. AND THE CEO'S NEED TO BE FIRED..
LET ME RUN THIS SHIT.. PLEASE... GIVE ME 3 MONTHS I WOULD TURN THEM COMPANIES AROUND..
IT TAKES A TEAM, OF MANAGEMNET WILLING AND ABLE TO GET THERE HANDS DIRTY.. AND THIS IS NOT THE CASE WITH THEM BITCH ASS CEO'S..
IF WE BAIL THEM OUT NOW, WITH THIS FAILED BUSINESS MODEL.. ALL WE ARE DOING IS PUTTING A PATCH ON A FUCKING OPEN WOUND.... AND THEY GONNA DIE SLOW..
THEY NEED TO CHANGE THE BUSINESS MODEL FIRE THE CEO'S AND CUT THE WAGES TO COMP'S IN THE US.. THEY NEED TO CUT THE BONUSES, AND ALL OF THE OTHER FRILLS..
ITS GONNA TAKE SOMEONE THAT CAME FROM THE HOOD TO RUN THAT COMPANY.. WE UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF A DOLLA..
HELL I MAKE QUITE A BIT OF MONEY PER YEAR AND I STILL EAT ODDLES AND NOODLES.. AND GRILLED CHEESE SANDWICHES.. (UPGRADE ON THE CHEESE THOUGH, NON-GOV CHEESE NOW)..
THEY NEED SOMEONE WHO BRINGS THERE LUNCH TO WORK.. EVERYDAY..
TO RUN THESE COMPANYS..
So if GM is about to fold up, y'all think I can cop that Corvette Z06 for $30k?
THAT WOULD PROB BE THE ONLY CAR OF VALUE..
You just answered your own question... you know the phrase...
"Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me." They know better, if they bail out anyone else they may spend the money superflously. GM of all companies needs to fail and file bankruptcy like any company.
GM needs money let them liquidate some of their assets...fuck em.
January 20th will see alot of changes to DC status quo. The Rethugs are going to have to face up to their failures next year.
Auto industry failures don't have anything to do with Republicans or the Bush Administration.
How does your comment relate to THIS THREAD?
Republicans didn't make the Mortgage Industry fuck up either, I have a background in Real Estate, and too many MOFOS jumped out and got Adjustable Rate Mortgages on houses that were too expensive that they couldn't afford IF they had to get a traditional 30-yr. Loan, when those ARMs adjusted massive numbers of homeowners were forced to pay higher payments or sell their homes, the Bush Administration didn't force anyone to buy MORE HOUSE than they could afford.
I lost a LOT OF BUSINESS trying to talk sense into folks trying to "keep up with the Jones" and buy houses that were too big for their income levels, and then when shit hits the fan they wanna Blame BUSH & the Republicans.
Ya'll better wake up, I voted for Obama and I'm glad he won, but he cannot save folks that made BAD DECISIONS and bought houses they couldn't afford.
One President cannot wave his hand and cure a fucked up Housing marketplace created by tons of bad decisions by greedy consumption-minded Americans.
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big 3 workers dont average 150k in salary -and i would like to see your sources on that compensation data - i dont believe it
the majority of hondas and toyotas arent built here theyre built in japan
Your argument is also illogical since the UAW knows it has reduce wages as part of a bailout plan - they agreed to do so.
If you stopped typing in big blue letters and read how the republicans tanked the bailout you would see the UAW was not responsible.
No regulation, poor fuel economy, union busting, exportation of jobs oversees, destroying the economy, increased fuel costs - all added up to the big 3 dying. The repubs were responsible for all of it.
Why can't the big 3 sell suvs? Fuel costs. Who designed the Bush-Cheney energy plan? Big Oil.
Who let Big Oil run free raping the consumer? Republicans
Who did nothing while the economy tanked? Republicans
Who attempted to deregulate every industry in the country - including fuel economy standards? Republicans
Repubs oversaw the entire economic meltdown and did nothing but get their friends paid. The broken business model of the big 3 is their own fault(the big 3's) - their management's fault. Shouldering the blame on labor is cowardly and stupid. Factory workers dont design cars or point the company to the future.
Find work where? Service industry jobs? There's nowhere to go until Obama breaks out a newdeal type plan.
Not qualified to go into other fields?
Flint Michigan.- How did that all work out there? sure some people will be fine. Most won't. There are no good paying alternatives to manufacturing jobs for factory workers without education- which most wont take up.
Non-auto industry manufacturing is dying out too. Hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs were lost here in the Carolinas LAST MONTH. This isnt union territory either.
Hundreds of thousands.
There arent enough service industry jobs for those people even if they tried to get service industry jobs. That means people used to making $20 an hour can't even get a job at Subway.
where the fuck do you think big 3 workers are going to go?
what state is it that you think isn't in negative job growth territory??????????
Florida? Cali?
youre on some dustbowl thinkin shit- you better read the grapes of wrath and get ready for what's coming.
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