Question for the politicos..FoxNews leans right..
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VegasGuy said:
CNN leans left and has always leaned left.
It was founded by what could arguably be the biggest leftist ever, Ted Turner.
It is also known that most journalist and reporters are liberal.
It was founded by what could arguably be the biggest leftist ever, Ted Turner.
It is also known that most journalist and reporters are liberal.
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How does one make an "objective" rating?
That is, what criteria do we use so that, based on a common set of standards, we
are all talking about the same thing ???
(Not trying to dissuade responses; it just occurs to me that there ought to be some
kind of standard on which a judgment or decision can be based. Otherwise, what
may be liberal to some might be considered conservative to others, you know, so
that everybody is talking about apples and not some talking about oranges).
QueEx
How does one make an "objective" rating?
That is, what criteria do we use so that, based on a common set of standards, we
are all talking about the same thing ???
(Not trying to dissuade responses; it just occurs to me that there ought to be some
kind of standard on which a judgment or decision can be based. Otherwise, what
may be liberal to some might be considered conservative to others, you know, so
that everybody is talking about apples and not some talking about oranges).
QueEx
I hear ya DM, but I also hear people (on and of these boards) all the time saying the major media outlets, INCLUDING CNN, didn't say jack about this or that (and a lot of times its about something Bush did or didn't do) -- and the conclusion is that CNN, like a lot of so-called mainstream media, is protecting or not exposing Bush, hence, its conservative.The Dark Mind said:
Prime example: following 9-11, when CNN's/government version of how the towers fell didn't agree with those who believe there is some conspiracy involved or that the buildings fell from some kind of conduct by Bush and his minions (corporate and otherwise), they cried CNN is protecting the status quo conservatives/government.
QueEx
^^^^^ cosign propaganda tooldivine said:
fuckin worthless news source that bullshit and headline news are total trash- like all regular network news
im pretty much disgusted by both right and left news - mags, papers etc except for the new yorker and McClatchy
Thank you for informing us that Faux News “leans right”. I couldn’t tell, due to their objective reporting. CNN leans right too. Glen Beck, Lou Dobbs, their current pandering to religious wedge issue topics. There are no so called liberal or progressive correspondence on CNN. At least Faux as a clown prince so, called liberal, Alan Combes. CNN’s perceived liberalness left when Ted Turn sold his controlling interests.
The media landscape has tilted so far to the right since the 1980s and especially since 2000. Anything slightly to the right of center appears to be liberal. All of AM radio, cable TV news and most of the so-called main stream news media are right wing leaning to different degrees. NPR, despite the propaganda was never liberal, they were more centrist. NPR had moved more to the right since the Bush administration’s appointment of CPB chairman Kenneth Y. Tomlinson. Informed people have more or less abandoned TV for in depth political coverage. Younger people are going to the net for their information
The media landscape has tilted so far to the right since the 1980s and especially since 2000. Anything slightly to the right of center appears to be liberal. All of AM radio, cable TV news and most of the so-called main stream news media are right wing leaning to different degrees. NPR, despite the propaganda was never liberal, they were more centrist. NPR had moved more to the right since the Bush administration’s appointment of CPB chairman Kenneth Y. Tomlinson. Informed people have more or less abandoned TV for in depth political coverage. Younger people are going to the net for their information
QueEx said:
This a technique the right is using to muddy the argument. Reporting dry facts should be objective, but not reporting facts could be misconstrued as subjective. Commentary is not news. This is actually an argument for the return of the fairness doctrine. Conservatives think that it stifles their speech, but it more clearly defines the lines of news and opinion.
I tend to look at it as Objective being conclusions based on the facts; and Subjective being conclusions drawn on what you think or what you think someone else is thinking or means.thoughtone said:
Nevertheless, maybe what we need is more people being able to understand and can tell the difference between fact (or what is put forward as undisputed fact) - and - opinion. Its hard, if not impossible for any journalist (who is just a person anyway) not to bring along and inject some of his/her baggage (opinion based on who he is) into an article in the form of opinion.
People tend to like the journalists that inject the opinions/conclusions that they like and throw bricks at the journalists with the opinions/conclusions that they don't like. Notice, some think CNN is left and some think its right; its all kind of based on where you stand looking at the issues.
QueEx
all left and all right.
I don't think CNN has a real bias. Anderson Cooper could be considered "liberal" but Glenn Beck is a blatant conservative. CNN tries to offer both sides of the argument even if the conservative side has no credible voice (remember them Swift Boat assholes). I think that's a mistake and MSNBC has it right, now they lean left.VegasGuy said:
Watch BBC news on your local PBS station and you will see balance.
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