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Maybe I'm mistaken but I thought it was determined that the earth is not a "perfectly" round sphere.....

It's more sphere than not obviously, but near the poles there is more of a bulb / blunt effect that's stunting the "points" on either axes.

As far as your calculations, I can't call it. I haven't done that deep of a dive into it. But I felt the need to clarify that part before others continue.

Yeah, we addressed that a few posts up! Thanks for your input!!
 
I answered his trick question for him already, but now he's being an ass. Like I said he's the skinny puny fagity nerd asking the captain of the wrestling team to show him his take-down move.

Trick question?? How in the HELL am I asking a trick question about the actual GLOBE EARTH that we live on???? I'm asking YOU to teach me on how to understand the globe better so I can stop being stupid like you say I am and you do me like this???

Goddamn, when will you be satisfied? The FUCK did I ever do to you??
 
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Thank you Piff!!!!

So I'm not tripping! CHATGPT is saying exactly what the chart is saying, that it would be a 542 mile drop by geometric construction!!

Cool, I'm learning!! :D :D :D

Now here's one more question, is it true that commercial airplanes typically cruise at altitudes between 30,000 and 42,000 feet? Which equals to 5-8 miles above the earth??
 
Thank you Piff!!!!

So I'm not tripping! CHATGPT is saying exactly what the chart is saying, that it would be a 542 mile drop by geometric construction!!

Cool, I'm learning!! :D :D :D

Now here's one more question, is it true that commercial airplanes typically cruise at altitudes between 30,000 and 42,000 feet? Which equals to 5-8 miles above the earth??
The typical cruising altitude for commercial airliners is 31,000 to 38,000 feet (9,400 to 11,600 m; 5.9 to 7.2 mi).
 
Okay!!! :bravo:

This is great! This is fantastic!!

So, if I take a flight from the geological North pole and fly south 2000 miles, the drop or descent of the flight will be 542 miles plus the 6-7 miles (approx) from the cruising altitude??

Is that correct??
Sounds correct to me and since I'm not being fact checked, I'll say yes that is correct.
 
Sounds correct to me and since I'm not being fact checked, I'll say yes that is correct.

Thanks Piff! You're on it today bro!

SIDE NOTE - for reference, 2000 miles is roughly the distance from Atlanta to Los Angeles, which is a 4 hour flight at a distance of 1,937 miles.

So leaving the North Pole the plane would HAVE to be descending the whole flight, other than the takeoff, climbing 6-7 miles to establish cruising altitude??
 
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Thanks Piff! You're on it today bro!

SIDE NOTE - for reference, 2000 miles is roughly the distance from Atlanta to Los Angeles, which is a 4 hour flight at a distance of 1,937 miles.

So leaving the North Pole the plane would HAVE to be descending the whole flight, other than climbing 6-7 miles to establish cruising altitude??
Would it be descending if you're staying the same altitude relative to the surface of the Earth? Obviously the plane will eventually descend upon reaching it's destination but not before that.

Now if you travel through the Earth rather than flying over the surface, I would imagine you'd be descending your entire trip.
 
Thanks Piff! You're on it today bro!

SIDE NOTE - for reference, 2000 miles is roughly the distance from Atlanta to Los Angeles, which is a 4 hour flight at a distance of 1,937 miles.

So leaving the North Pole the plane would HAVE to be descending the whole flight, other than climbing 6-7 miles to establish cruising altitude??
No you idiot I told you planes fly in a great circle to help your dumb ass, for the millionth time just imagine a one inch tooth pick with one side on a giant call the other side attached to a tiny plane. Now as long as the side of the the toothpick remains straight the plane can move around the ball maintaining a inc hight from the ball surface, without dipping its nose.
,/parlor tricks debunked.
 
Would it be descending if you're staying the same altitude relative to the surface of the Earth?

It HAS to descend even if it's staying the same altitude relative to the surface of the Earth. It can't happen any other way.

The EARTH has a DROP BY GEOMETRIC CONSTRUCTION of 542 miles, so that means the plane, staying relative to the surface, HAS to drop too.

Is that inaccurate?? Bruh, I swear I'm just trying to understand.

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No you idiot I told you planes fly in a great circle to help your dumb ass, for the millionth time just imagine a one inch tooth pick with one side on a giant call the other side attached to a tiny plane. Now as long as the side of the the toothpick remains straight the plane can move around the ball maintaining a inc hight from the ball surface, without dipping its nose.
,/parlor tricks debunked.

Good brother,

Is the geological North Pole higher by geometric construction than the geological south pole?

high, low?
top, bottom?
 
No you idiot I told you planes fly in a great circle to help your dumb ass, for the millionth time just imagine a one inch tooth pick with one side on a giant call the other side attached to a tiny plane. Now as long as the side of the the toothpick remains straight the plane can move around the ball maintaining a inc hight from the ball surface, without dipping its nose.
,/parlor tricks debunked.

I get your toothpick analogy. I'm not disputing that. That is correct!

But on this globe we live on, the geological North Pole is the TOP of the earth, so if you go SOUTH, you HAVE to be descending, going downward, de-elevating.

Dude, we're talking about how things work on this globe we live on.

Stop calling me an idiot, I'm seeking knowledge and trying to learn!! :angry:
 
It HAS to descend even if it's staying the same altitude relative to the surface of the Earth. It can't happen any other way.

The EARTH has a DROP BY GEOMETRIC CONSTRUCTION of 542 miles, so that means the plane, staying relative to the surface, HAS to drop too.

Is that inaccurate?? Bruh, I swear I'm just trying to understand.

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My my most curious brother, I've never seen a commercial airline travel by flying straight into space and then taking a 90⁰ drop to its destination.

Then again I'm not a pilot so who knows.
 
Is there a south pole of so explain why there was no 24 hour sun........ Reverse uno card..

Dude, I'm a moron. My tiny brain can't even comprehend....first of all, you mean "explain why there WAS A 24 hour sun".....but anyway, I'm guessing it's because we live on a globe nigga!

Fuck u mean??
 
I get your toothpick analogy. I'm not disputing that. That is correct!

But on this globe we live on, the geological North Pole is the TOP of the earth, so if you go SOUTH, you HAVE to be descending, going downward, de-elevating.

Dude, we're talking about how things work on this globe we live on.

Stop calling me an idiot, I'm seeking knowledge and trying to learn!! :angry:
There is no top or bottom to a globe.
 
Dude, I'm a moron. My tiny brain can't even comprehend....first of all, you mean "explain why there WAS A 24 hour sun".....but anyway, I'm guessing it's because we live on a globe nigga!

Fuck u mean??
Oh so there is a south pole, then the Earth is a globe, the only question you should be asking is why is it so difficult for derps to understand. BTW by asking this question it will add five points to your IQ making you smarter than all of the other flat Earfers.
 
I've never seen a commercial airline travel by flying straight into space and then taking a 90⁰ drop to its destination.

Me neither, and I'm not making that case, AT ALL.

I'm saying, the plane takes off, it climbs to a cruising altitude of 6-7 miles, then follows the DESCENDING CURVE southward by 2000 miles, which results in a 542 mile drop by geometric construction. Just like RoadRage is saying.

The difference between he and I, is that he doesn't want to acknowledge that the plane makes a 542 mile vertical drop while following the curve.
 
There is no top or bottom to a globe.

Why not?

Are you sure about that?




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The top of the Earth is the North Pole, which is the northernmost point on the planet. It's located in the Arctic Ocean on constantly moving sea ice.

Explanation
  • The North Pole is the tip of Earth's imaginary axis of rotation.

  • It's the only point on Earth where you can stand and remain in the same place relative to the center of the Earth as it rotates.

    • The North Pole is not part of any country, but Russia placed a titanium flag on the seabed in 2007.
    • The North Pole is 90 degrees north latitude.
    • At the North Pole, all lines of longitude and world time zones meet.
    • If you were to stand at the North Pole, you would no longer be able to tell which way is north, east, or west.
 
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The top of the Earth is the North Pole, which is the northernmost point on the planet. It's located in the Arctic Ocean on constantly moving sea ice.

Explanation
  • The North Pole is the tip of Earth's imaginary axis of rotation.

  • It's the only point on Earth where you can stand and remain in the same place relative to the center of the Earth as it rotates.

    • The North Pole is not part of any country, but Russia placed a titanium flag on the seabed in 2007.
    • The North Pole is 90 degrees north latitude.
    • At the North Pole, all lines of longitude and world time zones meet.
    • If you were to stand at the North Pole, you would no longer be able to tell which way is north, east, or west.
What reference frame is the south pole at the bottom? If you do not understand how reference frames work, the subject is beyond your pay grade
 
Me neither, and I'm not making that case, AT ALL.

I'm saying, the plane takes off, it climbs to a cruising altitude of 6-7 miles, then follows the DESCENDING CURVE southward by 2000 miles, which results in a 542 mile drop by geometric construction. Just like RoadRage is saying.

The difference between he and I, is that he doesn't want to acknowledge that the plane makes a 542 mile vertical drop while following the curve.
That's because RoadRage is wise and you should listen to him. You only drop relative to whatever large body is pulling you down gravitationally.

As for a plane, it ascends to its traveling altitude and, usually, stays there until it's time to land. The only drop is the descent when landing. The plane isn't traveling by sides and angles. It's flying relative to the curvature of the Earth.
 
What reference frame is the south pole at the bottom? If you do not understand how reference frames work, the subject is beyond your pay grade

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That would be the Earth-centered, Earth-fixed (ECEF) reference frame, also known as the geocentric reference frame.
In simpler terms: Imagine the Earth as a sphere. The ECEF frame has its origin at the center of the Earth, with the z-axis pointing towards the North Pole (and therefore the South Pole being at the bottom along the negative z-axis).

Why this frame?
  • Earth's Rotation:
    The ECEF frame is a geocentric frame, meaning it is fixed to the Earth's center and rotates with the Earth.

  • Geographic Coordinates:
    This frame is the standard for representing geographic coordinates (latitude, longitude, and altitude) as a 3D point in space.

  • South Pole Definition:
    The South Pole is defined as the point on the Earth's surface that is furthest south of the equator. In the ECEF frame, this is the point on the z-axis furthest from the origin (the Earth's center).
 
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That would be the Earth-centered, Earth-fixed (ECEF) reference frame, also known as the geocentric reference frame.
In simpler terms: Imagine the Earth as a sphere. The ECEF frame has its origin at the center of the Earth, with the z-axis pointing towards the North Pole (and therefore the South Pole being at the bottom along the negative z-axis).

Why this frame?
  • Earth's Rotation:
    The ECEF frame is geocentric, meaning it is fixed to the Earth's center and rotates with the Earth.

  • Geographic Coordinates:
    This frame is the standard for representing geographic coordinates (latitude, longitude, and altitude) as a 3D point in space.

  • South Pole Definition:
    The South Pole is defined as the point on the Earth's surface that is furthest south of the equator. In the ECEF frame, this is the point on the z-axis furthest from the origin (the Earth's center).
This is a theoretical reference frame that says the north is on top, but could just as easily be made to say the south is on the top, both are equally correct and both wrong at the same time But in the real world such reference frames do not exist.
 
That's because RoadRage is wise and you should listen to him. You only drop relative to whatever large body is pulling you down gravitationally.

As for a plane, it ascends to its traveling altitude and, usually, stays there until it's time to land. The only drop is the descent when landing. The plane isn't traveling by sides and angles. It's flying relative to the curvature of the Earth.

I AM listening to his wise ass!!

I am not saying AT ALL that the plane doesn't drop relative to whatever large body is pulling you down gravitationally.

The BOTTOM LINE, is that on a GLOBE that we live on, the plane moves DOWNWARD in 3D by 542 miles. How is this not correct???
 
The plane isn't traveling by sides and angles. It's flying relative to the curvature of the Earth.

Yes, the curvature of the earth is an ARC. -

https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+an+arc+in+a+circle An arc is a portion of the circumference of a circle, essentially a curved line segment that forms part of the circle's boundary.

I said NOTHING about sides and angles. Where are you getting that from??

The ARC moves downward (descends) from the North Pole. This is how CIRCLES work!! Right???
 
Why not?

Are you sure about that?




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The top of the Earth is the North Pole, which is the northernmost point on the planet. It's located in the Arctic Ocean on constantly moving sea ice.

Explanation
  • The North Pole is the tip of Earth's imaginary axis of rotation.

  • It's the only point on Earth where you can stand and remain in the same place relative to the center of the Earth as it rotates.

    • The North Pole is not part of any country, but Russia placed a titanium flag on the seabed in 2007.
    • The North Pole is 90 degrees north latitude.
    • At the North Pole, all lines of longitude and world time zones meet.
    • If you were to stand at the North Pole, you would no longer be able to tell which way is north, east, or west.
One thing I know for SURE dude, the North Pole is not the top of the Planet Earth. There is NO TOP.
Do some more googling. This is the problem with the internet. You really NEED to go to the library for facts.
 
This is a theoretical reference frame that says the north is on top, but could just as easily be made to say the south is on the top, both are equally correct and both wrong at the same time But in the real world such reference frames do not exist.

Now you want to talk about Parlor Tricks??? Are you SERIOUS right now???

Theoretically, since gravity is pulling us in an omnidirectional pattern to the center of the earth, ANY point you're standing on can be the top or bottom of the earth, but fuck all that!

I'm talking about the GEOMETRIC CONSTRUCTION of the GLOBE EARTH, which by all of science says we have a top and bottom.

Still, BESIDE THE POINT.

If you leave the geological NORTH POLE and travel 2000 miles along the curve the plane will in fact move downward vertically by 542 miles, correct???
 
Now you want to talk about Parlor Tricks??? Are you SERIOUS right now???

Theoretically, since gravity is pulling us in an omnidirectional pattern to the center of the earth, ANY point you're standing on can be the top or bottom of the earth, but fuck all that!

I'm talking about the GEOMETRIC CONSTRUCTION of the GLOBE EARTH, which by all of science says we have a top and bottom.

Still, BESIDE THE POINT.

If you leave the geological NORTH POLE and travel 2000 miles along the curve the plane will in fact move downward vertically by 542 miles, correct???
When referring to the "bottom of the earth," most people mean Antarctica , as it is located at the southernmost point of the planet and is often considered the "bottom of the world" due to its position on a globe; however, since the Earth is a sphere, it technically has no true "bottom" in a geographical sense.
 
When referring to the "bottom of the earth," most people mean Antarctica , as it is located at the southernmost point of the planet and is often considered the "bottom of the world" due to its position on a globe; however, since the Earth is a sphere, it technically has no true "bottom" in a geographical sense.

Lol, I'M NOT DISPUTING THAT!!!! FOR THE 5TH TIME!!! OMG!!!
 
I AM listening to his wise ass!!

I am not saying AT ALL that the plane doesn't drop relative to whatever large body is pulling you down gravitationally.

The BOTTOM LINE, is that on a GLOBE that we live on, the plane moves DOWNWARD in 3D by 542 miles. How is this not correct???
Yes, the curvature of the earth is an ARC. -

https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+an+arc+in+a+circle An arc is a portion of the circumference of a circle, essentially a curved line segment that forms part of the circle's boundary.

I said NOTHING about sides and angles. Where are you getting that from??

The ARC moves downward (descends) from the North Pole. This is how CIRCLES work!! Right???
Flying over the Earth isn't the same as descending or moving downward, i.e falling, toward the surface of the Earth.

If a plane circumnavigated the entire Earth while staying the same altitude, it's not traveling downward by definition. If it were, it would hit the surface of the Earth.

The plane isn't drilling through the Earth to reach its destination, it's flying over the surface. The only descent is when the plane lands.

And the Earth isn't a circle. It's not even a sphere. It's an oblate spheroid. That's why the circumference of the equator is larger than that of the meridian.
 
Flying over the Earth isn't the same as descending or moving downward, i.e falling, toward the surface of the Earth.

If a plane circumnavigated the entire Earth while staying the same altitude, it's not traveling downward by definition. If it were, it would hit the surface of the Earth.

The plane isn't drilling through the Earth to reach its destination, it's flying over the surface. The only descent is when the plane lands.

And the Earth isn't a circle. It's not even a sphere. It's an oblate spheroid. That's why the circumference of the equator is larger than that of the meridian.

So you're saying there is no drop by geometric construction??

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And the Earth isn't a circle. It's not even a sphere. That's why the circumference of the equator is larger than that of the meridian.

the equator is 41 mile difference between the equator and the meridian, which is negligible, which is why when you look at pictures of the earth it looks almost like a perfect circle.

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But yeah, oblate spheroid.

STILL, that doesn't invalidate the 542 mile drop.
 
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