C/S, well said
President Obama Bombs Libya. Where Is The Outrage?
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C/S, well said
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
According to US and BBC media Gaddafi ordering the killings of innocent civilians. But is he really ordering the killings of innocent civilians or those that are trying to kill him and his followers?
Do civilians get killed Wars?
The US should know this consider how many foreign civilians that it has killed. We post civilians that got killed in Gaddafi crossfire...where are the vids of civilians killed in US, France, etc crossfire?
2.190. Fight against those who fight against you in the way of Allah, but do not transgress, for Allah does not love transgressors.
2.191. Kill them whenever you confront them and drive them out from where they drove you out. (For though killing is sinful) wrongful persecution is even worse than killing. Do not fight against them near the Holy Mosque unless they fight against you; but if they fight against you kill them, for that is the reward of such unbelievers.
2.192. Then if they desist, know well that Allah is Ever-Forgiving, Most Compassionate.
2.193. Keep on fighting against them until mischief ends and the way prescribed by Allah prevails. But if they desist, then know that hostility is only against the wrong-doers.
2.194. The sacred month for the sacred month; sanctities should be respected alike ( by all concerned). Thus, if someone has attacked you, attack him just as he attacked you, and fear Allah and remain conscious that Allah is with those who guard against violating the bounds set by Him.
http://www.islam101.com/terror/quranWPJ.htm
IMO the killing that Gaddafi is doing is a justifiable. Pres Obama shouldnt have cosigned US involvement. Prez. Obama let to Clinton bitches, Evil White Bitch Hillary Clinton and Evil Black Bitch Susan Rice take control over this ordeal.
Hillary of course is the Evil Wife of Bill Clinton and Susan Rice is the current Evil United States Ambassador to the United Nations and former Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs back in the Clinton dayz. She the same bitch....along with Clinton that ignored the mass killings over in Rwanda.
Both of these Evil bitches walk to the beat of a Zionist drum. Both arent concerned with other places in Africa like the Congo but are concerned the African country Libya. Why is this? Why is France involved? Wasnt France doing business deals with Libya not long ago? I bet if Gaddafi, one of the persons that managed the dealings between France and Libya is removed I bet France stands to reap a few rewards.
Many Muslim people were considered the face of terrorism in the US for over 10 years. Now all of a sudden the US considers many Muslims people victims and now they want to help save them from "EVIL DICTATORS"
All these Muslim countries having all of a sudden revolts
And then the US and its allies want other Muslim countries to join them in their BS and attack their Muslim Brothers and Sisters that have done them no harm.
Theres no President or leader in any country that has the full support of all of its people. Has Gaddafi done some grimy shit in the past? Im sure he has. But IMO his good deeds....especially when it pertains to Africa..heavily outweigh his bad deeds. Can that same thing be said about people like President Clinton/Bush/Obama?
Do civilians get killed Wars?
The US should know this consider how many foreign civilians that it has killed. We post civilians that got killed in Gaddafi crossfire...where are the vids of civilians killed in US, France, etc crossfire?2.190. Fight against those who fight against you in the way of Allah, but do not transgress, for Allah does not love transgressors.
2.191. Kill them whenever you confront them and drive them out from where they drove you out. (For though killing is sinful) wrongful persecution is even worse than killing. Do not fight against them near the Holy Mosque unless they fight against you; but if they fight against you kill them, for that is the reward of such unbelievers.
2.192. Then if they desist, know well that Allah is Ever-Forgiving, Most Compassionate.
2.193. Keep on fighting against them until mischief ends and the way prescribed by Allah prevails. But if they desist, then know that hostility is only against the wrong-doers.
2.194. The sacred month for the sacred month; sanctities should be respected alike ( by all concerned). Thus, if someone has attacked you, attack him just as he attacked you, and fear Allah and remain conscious that Allah is with those who guard against violating the bounds set by Him.
http://www.islam101.com/terror/quranWPJ.htm
IMO the killing that Gaddafi is doing is a justifiable. Pres Obama shouldnt have cosigned US involvement. Prez. Obama let to Clinton bitches, Evil White Bitch Hillary Clinton and Evil Black Bitch Susan Rice take control over this ordeal.
Hillary of course is the Evil Wife of Bill Clinton and Susan Rice is the current Evil United States Ambassador to the United Nations and former Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs back in the Clinton dayz. She the same bitch....along with Clinton that ignored the mass killings over in Rwanda.
Both of these Evil bitches walk to the beat of a Zionist drum. Both arent concerned with other places in Africa like the Congo but are concerned the African country Libya. Why is this? Why is France involved? Wasnt France doing business deals with Libya not long ago? I bet if Gaddafi, one of the persons that managed the dealings between France and Libya is removed I bet France stands to reap a few rewards.
Many Muslim people were considered the face of terrorism in the US for over 10 years. Now all of a sudden the US considers many Muslims people victims and now they want to help save them from "EVIL DICTATORS"
All these Muslim countries having all of a sudden revolts
And then the US and its allies want other Muslim countries to join them in their BS and attack their Muslim Brothers and Sisters that have done them no harm.
Theres no President or leader in any country that has the full support of all of its people. Has Gaddafi done some grimy shit in the past? Im sure he has. But IMO his good deeds....especially when it pertains to Africa..heavily outweigh his bad deeds. Can that same thing be said about people like President Clinton/Bush/Obama?
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Thx . . . but something just dawned on me: This is the perfect time for a terrorist attack (most likely staged, but blamed on Khadaffi), and I don't mean one that results in a few thousand deaths either, but one that will be so devastating that even the harshest critics of our current policy (among the populace) will instantly start marching in lockstep. False flags ops may be the oldest trick in the book, but it's still very effective.
If "they" (my money is on the Mo$$ad since they already have their fingerprints all over 911) were to stage a major NBC (nuke, bio, chem) terror attack in "America's Heartland" (think of the psychological effect that will have on the majority population), the sheeple will forget all about their gripe with Obama, and will be more than willing to send their children to die in a ground invasion and occupation of Libya. Libya is just the beginning. They aren't setting up "Africom" so they can hand out toys to little African children. Gotta clear the way for the corporations to set up shop you know!
Just a thought, hopefully I am wrong.
I don't think there will be a false flag attack given this economic environment.
The banks are teetering on collapse, gas prices won't stop going higher, inflation is hitting the supermarkets, real estate can't seem to stop falling, and unemployment is sky high.
If anything, I think a terrorist attack might be just the fuel for people to believe the government has lost all control which would definitely hit the bond markets and the ability of the corporations/government/states to finance themselves.
IMO, 2009 would have been a good time for a false-flag terrorist attack, but not 2011.
Thanks.
Believe or not, the scenario you described is relatively encouraging. It buys me enough time to stock up on needed supplies (more rice, more beans, sprout seeds, more water ammo and storage containers). Even if the shit doesn't hit the fan, and by some miracle the economy rebounds, I won't have to go food shopping for a while and can spend more time at the range!
Consider, for a moment, domestic terrorism...
Just to go off topic for a second:
Here are the world first and original domestic terrorist:
And they should be classified as a terrorist organization
Consider, for a moment, domestic terrorism...
domestic terrorism?
We need to stop buying into Janet Napolitano's fearmongering! Just like Bush, with the intent to keep people scared and dependent on govt to "protect" you. If anything, it will be fabricated
domestic terrorism?
We need to stop buying into Janet Napolitano's fearmongering! Just like Bush, with the intent to keep people scared and dependent on govt to "protect" you. If anything, it will be fabricated
Show me an article, written on her or a video clip. I guarantee I haven't watched it.
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According to US and BBC media Gaddafi ordering the killings of innocent civilians. But is he really ordering the killings of innocent civilians or those that are trying to kill him and his followers?
Do civilians get killed Wars?
2.190. Fight against those who fight against you in the way of Allah, but do not transgress, for Allah does not love transgressors.
2.191. Kill them whenever you confront them and drive them out from where they drove you out. (For though killing is sinful) wrongful persecution is even worse than killing. Do not fight against them near the Holy Mosque unless they fight against you; but if they fight against you kill them, for that is the reward of such unbelievers.
2.192. Then if they desist, know well that Allah is Ever-Forgiving, Most Compassionate.
2.193. Keep on fighting against them until mischief ends and the way prescribed by Allah prevails. But if they desist, then know that hostility is only against the wrong-doers.
2.194. The sacred month for the sacred month; sanctities should be respected alike ( by all concerned). Thus, if someone has attacked you, attack him just as he attacked you, and fear Allah and remain conscious that Allah is with those who guard against violating the bounds set by Him.
http://www.islam101.com/terror/quranWPJ.htm
IMO the killing that Gaddafi is doing is a justifiable. Pres Obama shouldnt have cosigned US involvement. Prez. Obama let to Clinton bitches, Evil White Bitch Hillary Clinton and Evil Black Bitch Susan Rice take control over this ordeal.
Hillary of course is the Evil Wife of Bill Clinton and Susan Rice is the current Evil United States Ambassador to the United Nations and former Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs back in the Clinton dayz. She the same bitch....along with Clinton that ignored the mass killings over in Rwanda.
Both of these Evil bitches walk to the beat of a Zionist drum. Both arent concerned with other places in Africa like the Congo but are concerned the African country Libya. Why is this? Why is France involved? Wasnt France doing business deals with Libya not long ago? I bet if Gaddafi, one of the persons that managed the dealings between France and Libya is removed I bet France stands to reap a few rewards.
Many Muslim people were considered the face of terrorism in the US for over 10 years. Now all of a sudden the US considers many Muslims people victims and now they want to help save them from "EVIL DICTATORS"
All these Muslim countries having all of a sudden revolts
And then the US and its allies want other Muslim countries to join them in their BS and attack their Muslim Brothers and Sisters that have done them no harm.
Theres no President or leader in any country that has the full support of all of its people. Has Gaddafi done some grimy shit in the past? Im sure he has. But IMO his good deeds....especially when it pertains to Africa..heavily outweigh his bad deeds. Can that same thing be said about people like President Clinton/Bush/Obama?
You're becoming radicalized ?
domestic terrorism?
We need to stop buying into Janet Napolitano's fearmongering! Just like Bush, with the intent to keep people scared and dependent on govt to "protect" you. If anything, it will be fabricated
A proud libertarian!
Hope they pass a law so Obama can run again in 2016
NATO Attack; Qaddafi’s Son, 3 Grandchildren Killed
Qaddafi’s Son, Three Grandchildren Killed in NATO Strikes
Libyan officials accuse Nato of attacking Saif al-Arab Gaddafi's
house in hopes of killing Muammar Gaddafi. Photograph: Staff/
Reuters
Bloomberg
By Nadeem Hamid
and Carter Dougherty
May 01, 2011
May 1 (Bloomberg) -- Muammar Qaddafi’s youngest son, Saif al-Arab, and
three grandchildren were killed in an allied airstrike on Tripoli, the
government said.
Qaddafi and his wife were in the house at the time and survived the attack
that killed his son, Moussa Ibrahim, a spokesman for the Foreign Ministry,
said in a news conference. The strike was a “direct operation to
assassinate” Qaddafi, he said.
“We do not target individuals,” Lieutenant-General Charles Bouchard, who
commands the alliance’s operation, said in a statement on NATO’s website.
More than two months of clashes in Libya have killed thousands and helped
push oil prices up more than 30 percent. Much of the fighting is now
centered on the rebel-held western port city of Misrata, where opposition
forces last week pushed Qaddafi loyalists out of the city center. Qaddafi’s
troops are shelling civilian areas in the city and attempted to mine part of
the harbor, according to NATO.
The North Atlantic Treaty Organization said aircraft carried out “precision
strikes” during the night against military installations in Tripoli.
If true, the killing of Qaddafi’s son would come 25 years and two weeks after
his adopted daughter died in a U.S. strike. The U.S. bombed Libya in 1986,
killing 37 people, in retaliation for the bombing of a Berlin disco, which was
frequented by U.S. soldiers stationed in Germany.
No Cease-fire
NATO yesterday rejected a cease-fire offer from Qaddafi, saying his forces
must stop their attacks on civilians before it considers any truce. Qaddafi,
69, said he’ll stay in the North African nation where his people
want “martyrdom or victory” in the face of a rebel insurgency that began
in mid-February.
It’s the second time in as many months that Qaddafi offers a cease-fire.
In March, hours after then-Libyan Foreign Minister Moussa Koussa said the
region was observing a cease-fire, Qaddafi’s forces attacked the outskirts
of Benghazi. Koussa has since defected.
Saif Al-Arab, who was born in 1982, is Qaddafi’s least-well known son.
German police once seized a Ferrari owned by Saif Al- Arab, a student at
the time, for violating noise restrictions, according to The Telegraph
newspaper. He wasn’t reported to have any public roles, unlike Saif al-
Islam, 38, who has become a public face of the regime.
Other Sons
Qaddafi’s other sons have all had official roles or international careers.
Mutassim, born in 1976, is a national security adviser, while Hannibal, 35,
and Khamis, born in 1978, command special army battalions
Saadi, 37, who played professional soccer in Italy, is a commander of the
Libyan special forces, according to an Interpol notice. Mohamed, who was
born in 1970 and is the eldest, is chairman of the state-run
telecommunications company. Aisha, Qaddafi’s daughter, was born in 1978
and is an attorney. She was part of the legal team that defended Saddam
Hussein.
Abdul Hafiz Ghoga, a spokesman for the rebels’ National Transitional Council,
said reports of the deaths could be a ploy by Qaddafi to win international
sympathy, according to al- Jazeera.
“If the news is true, the message has been driven to him,” said Faraj Najem,
a London-based Libyan historian who opposes Qaddafi. “The pain is closer to
him. Death has come closer to him.”
‘Systematic Attacks’
“NATO’s targets are military in nature and have been clearly linked to the
Qaddafi’s regime’s systematic attacks on the Libyan population,” Bouchard
said, adding he’s aware of reports on the deaths of Qaddafi family
members. “We regret all loss of life, especially the innocent civilians being
harmed as the result of the ongoing conflict.”
NATO said aircraft attacked a “known command and control building” in
Tripoli’s Bab al-Azizya neighborhood.
Just hours before Qaddafi spoke of a truce, his forces shelled Misrata, killing
many people, including children, a NATO official who declined to be named,
citing policy, said yesterday.
NATO foreign ministers have made it clear that the alliance will continue
operations until all of Qaddafi’s forces have returned to their bases, the
official said.
‘Post to Leave’
“I don’t have a post to leave,” Qaddafi said in the April 30 speech on Libyan
state television broadcast by Al Arabiya. “If I had a post, I would have
ended like Mubarak or Ben Ali,” he said, referring to Egyptian President Hosni
Mubarak and Tunisia’s President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali, who were forced to
step down in the face of popular protests earlier this year.
The mines were laid two to three kilometers (1.2 to 1.9 miles) offshore,
detected by NATO, and are now being disposed of onsite, NATO said in a
statement posted on its website. The temporary closing of the port
prevented two humanitarian ships from docking, NATO said.
“The mining of a civilian port by pro-Qaddafi forces is clearly designed to
disrupt the lawful flow of humanitarian aid to the innocent civilian people of
Libya,” Italian Navy Vice Admiral Rinaldo Veri said in the statement.
Veri also asked civilian shipping companies to continue their coordination
with NATO to ensure the safety of maritime transport in the region.
Terrorists Blamed
Thousands of people have died in more than two months of violence in Libya,
which began with an uprising in the eastern city of Benghazi. In his speech,
the Libyan leader blamed terrorists for leading the fight against his regime
and said he would agree to a cease-fire if the extremists can be convinced
to introduce a truce.
The insurgency has helped push oil prices up more than 30 percent. Crude
oil for June delivery rose $1.07 to settle at $113.93 a barrel on the New York
Mercantile Exchange April 29. Futures rose 6.8 percent last month. Qaddafi
said no one can force him to leave Libya and said outsiders won’t control the
nation’s oil, Africa’s biggest proven crude reserves.
In the past month, more than 30,000 people have fled the fighting in the
western mountains and crossed into Tunisia at Dehiba, according to the
United Nations refugee agency.
--With assistance from Patrick Donahue in Berlin, Jihen Laghmari in Tunis,
Charlie Devereux in Caracas and Ewa Krukowska in Brussels. Editors: Paul
Tighe, Jim McDonald, Andrew J. Barden, Louis Meixler.
To contact the reporters on this story: Nadeem Hamid in Washington at
nhamid3@bloomberg.net; Carter Dougherty in Washington at cdougherty6
@bloomberg.net.
To contact the editor responsible for this story: Andrew J. Barden at
barden@bloomberg.net
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Qaddafi’s Son, Three Grandchildren Killed in NATO Strikes
Libyan officials accuse Nato of attacking Saif al-Arab Gaddafi's
house in hopes of killing Muammar Gaddafi. Photograph: Staff/
Reuters
Bloomberg
By Nadeem Hamid
and Carter Dougherty
May 01, 2011
May 1 (Bloomberg) -- Muammar Qaddafi’s youngest son, Saif al-Arab, and
three grandchildren were killed in an allied airstrike on Tripoli, the
government said.
Qaddafi and his wife were in the house at the time and survived the attack
that killed his son, Moussa Ibrahim, a spokesman for the Foreign Ministry,
said in a news conference. The strike was a “direct operation to
assassinate” Qaddafi, he said.
“We do not target individuals,” Lieutenant-General Charles Bouchard, who
commands the alliance’s operation, said in a statement on NATO’s website.
More than two months of clashes in Libya have killed thousands and helped
push oil prices up more than 30 percent. Much of the fighting is now
centered on the rebel-held western port city of Misrata, where opposition
forces last week pushed Qaddafi loyalists out of the city center. Qaddafi’s
troops are shelling civilian areas in the city and attempted to mine part of
the harbor, according to NATO.
The North Atlantic Treaty Organization said aircraft carried out “precision
strikes” during the night against military installations in Tripoli.
If true, the killing of Qaddafi’s son would come 25 years and two weeks after
his adopted daughter died in a U.S. strike. The U.S. bombed Libya in 1986,
killing 37 people, in retaliation for the bombing of a Berlin disco, which was
frequented by U.S. soldiers stationed in Germany.
No Cease-fire
NATO yesterday rejected a cease-fire offer from Qaddafi, saying his forces
must stop their attacks on civilians before it considers any truce. Qaddafi,
69, said he’ll stay in the North African nation where his people
want “martyrdom or victory” in the face of a rebel insurgency that began
in mid-February.
It’s the second time in as many months that Qaddafi offers a cease-fire.
In March, hours after then-Libyan Foreign Minister Moussa Koussa said the
region was observing a cease-fire, Qaddafi’s forces attacked the outskirts
of Benghazi. Koussa has since defected.
Saif Al-Arab, who was born in 1982, is Qaddafi’s least-well known son.
German police once seized a Ferrari owned by Saif Al- Arab, a student at
the time, for violating noise restrictions, according to The Telegraph
newspaper. He wasn’t reported to have any public roles, unlike Saif al-
Islam, 38, who has become a public face of the regime.
Other Sons
Qaddafi’s other sons have all had official roles or international careers.
Mutassim, born in 1976, is a national security adviser, while Hannibal, 35,
and Khamis, born in 1978, command special army battalions
Saadi, 37, who played professional soccer in Italy, is a commander of the
Libyan special forces, according to an Interpol notice. Mohamed, who was
born in 1970 and is the eldest, is chairman of the state-run
telecommunications company. Aisha, Qaddafi’s daughter, was born in 1978
and is an attorney. She was part of the legal team that defended Saddam
Hussein.
Abdul Hafiz Ghoga, a spokesman for the rebels’ National Transitional Council,
said reports of the deaths could be a ploy by Qaddafi to win international
sympathy, according to al- Jazeera.
“If the news is true, the message has been driven to him,” said Faraj Najem,
a London-based Libyan historian who opposes Qaddafi. “The pain is closer to
him. Death has come closer to him.”
‘Systematic Attacks’
“NATO’s targets are military in nature and have been clearly linked to the
Qaddafi’s regime’s systematic attacks on the Libyan population,” Bouchard
said, adding he’s aware of reports on the deaths of Qaddafi family
members. “We regret all loss of life, especially the innocent civilians being
harmed as the result of the ongoing conflict.”
NATO said aircraft attacked a “known command and control building” in
Tripoli’s Bab al-Azizya neighborhood.
Just hours before Qaddafi spoke of a truce, his forces shelled Misrata, killing
many people, including children, a NATO official who declined to be named,
citing policy, said yesterday.
NATO foreign ministers have made it clear that the alliance will continue
operations until all of Qaddafi’s forces have returned to their bases, the
official said.
‘Post to Leave’
“I don’t have a post to leave,” Qaddafi said in the April 30 speech on Libyan
state television broadcast by Al Arabiya. “If I had a post, I would have
ended like Mubarak or Ben Ali,” he said, referring to Egyptian President Hosni
Mubarak and Tunisia’s President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali, who were forced to
step down in the face of popular protests earlier this year.
The mines were laid two to three kilometers (1.2 to 1.9 miles) offshore,
detected by NATO, and are now being disposed of onsite, NATO said in a
statement posted on its website. The temporary closing of the port
prevented two humanitarian ships from docking, NATO said.
“The mining of a civilian port by pro-Qaddafi forces is clearly designed to
disrupt the lawful flow of humanitarian aid to the innocent civilian people of
Libya,” Italian Navy Vice Admiral Rinaldo Veri said in the statement.
Veri also asked civilian shipping companies to continue their coordination
with NATO to ensure the safety of maritime transport in the region.
Terrorists Blamed
Thousands of people have died in more than two months of violence in Libya,
which began with an uprising in the eastern city of Benghazi. In his speech,
the Libyan leader blamed terrorists for leading the fight against his regime
and said he would agree to a cease-fire if the extremists can be convinced
to introduce a truce.
The insurgency has helped push oil prices up more than 30 percent. Crude
oil for June delivery rose $1.07 to settle at $113.93 a barrel on the New York
Mercantile Exchange April 29. Futures rose 6.8 percent last month. Qaddafi
said no one can force him to leave Libya and said outsiders won’t control the
nation’s oil, Africa’s biggest proven crude reserves.
In the past month, more than 30,000 people have fled the fighting in the
western mountains and crossed into Tunisia at Dehiba, according to the
United Nations refugee agency.
--With assistance from Patrick Donahue in Berlin, Jihen Laghmari in Tunis,
Charlie Devereux in Caracas and Ewa Krukowska in Brussels. Editors: Paul
Tighe, Jim McDonald, Andrew J. Barden, Louis Meixler.
To contact the reporters on this story: Nadeem Hamid in Washington at
nhamid3@bloomberg.net; Carter Dougherty in Washington at cdougherty6
@bloomberg.net.
To contact the editor responsible for this story: Andrew J. Barden at
barden@bloomberg.net
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Re: NATO Attack; Qaddafi’s Son, 3 Grandchildren Killed
Nato denies deliberately targeting Muammar Gaddafihttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/01/libya-nato-gaddafi-un-resolution
'We do not target individuals', says military commander
amid criticism of reported deaths of Libyan leader's family
Four members of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's
family were reportedly killed in a Nato air strike in
Tripoli on Saturday. Photograph: Reuters Tv/Reuters
Nato denies deliberately targeting Muammar Gaddafihttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/01/libya-nato-gaddafi-un-resolution
'We do not target individuals', says military commander
amid criticism of reported deaths of Libyan leader's family
Four members of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's
family were reportedly killed in a Nato air strike in
Tripoli on Saturday. Photograph: Reuters Tv/Reuters
Re: NATO Attack; Qaddafi’s Son, 3 Grandchildren Killed
Libya says Gadhafi's son killed in
airstrike, vows death to 'invaders'
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NATO bombing civilian targets in Libya
Graphic pics,shit pissed me off and broke my heart at the same time...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25221
Graphic pics,shit pissed me off and broke my heart at the same time...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25221
Boehner warns of possible War Powers Resolution violation over Libya
Boehner warns of possible War Powers Resolution violation over Libya
Washington (CNN) -- The Obama administration could be in violation of the War Powers Resolution if it fails to get congressional authorization by Sunday for U.S. participation in the Libya military mission, House Speaker John Boehner said Tuesday.
In a letter to President Barack Obama that his aides made public, Boehner, R-Ohio, complained that the administration has failed to address questions about the mission that were in a House resolution passed June 3. That resolution set a two-week deadline for a response.
Boehner's letter reiterated the Friday deadline and took the additional step of warning that a failure to respond could violate the War Powers Resolution.
According to Boehner, a 90-day deadline for congressional authorization of the Libya mission expires Sunday.
"It would appear that, in five days, the administration will be in violation of the War Powers Resolution unless it asks for and receives authorization from Congress or withdraws all U.S. troops and resources from the mission," Boehner's letter said.
The White House has previously said it was complying with the War Powers Resolution through frequent briefings on the Libya mission.
Boehner's letter contested that assertion.
"Since the mission began, the administration has provided tactical operational briefings to the House of Representatives, but the White House has systematically avoided requesting a formal authorization for its action," Boehner's letter said. "It has simultaneously sought, however, to portray that its actions are consistent with the War Powers Resolution. The combination of these actions has left many members of Congress, as well as the American people, frustrated by the lack of clarity over the administration's strategic policies, by a refusal to acknowledge and respect the role of the Congress, and by a refusal to comply with the basic tenets of the War Powers Resolution."
Such political wrangling over war powers is common in Washington, with presidents frequently seeking to expand their freedom to commit U.S. forces and Congress battling to exert influence on the process.
Boehner's letter said that, in this case, "the ongoing, deeply divisive debate originated with a lack of genuine consultation prior to commencement of operations and has been further exacerbated by the lack of visibility and leadership from you and your administration."
With his letter, Boehner raised the stakes on an issue that could prove politically embarrassing to Obama, with increasing numbers of Republicans and Democrats opposing the Libya mission.
Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona, who supports the Libya mission, said Tuesday that he expected the White House to provide Congress with details on the Libya mission this week.
"My understanding is the White House will be sending over a report and lots of information about what we've done," McCain said, adding that the Senate could then vote on a resolution backing the mission that would be intended to satisfy questions over the War Powers Resolution requirement.
To McCain, the delay in a White House response made the issue more challenging than necessary.
"I can assure you that it's gonna be much more difficult, with a lot more amendments and a lot more debates, than if we would have done this a couple months ago," McCain said.
National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor said late Tuesday that the information would probably be delivered to members of Congress on Wednesday.
"We are in the final stages of preparing extensive information for the House and Senate that will address a whole host of issues about our ongoing efforts in Libya, including those raised in the House resolution as well as our legal analysis with regard to the War Powers Resolution," he said.
Since March 1, administration witnesses have testified at more than 10 hearings that included a "substantial discussion of Libya" and participated in more than 30 member or staff briefings on the matter, he said.
In announcing the mission in March, Obama said U.S. forces would take the early lead in establishing a no-fly zone over the country in order to enforce a U.N. resolution calling for the protection of Libyan civilians from forces loyal to leader Moammar Gadhafi.
The U.S. forces eventually assumed a supporting role as NATO took over the mission.
Congressional opponents of the mission say that its objective of civilian protection fails to match the stated U.S. goal of Gadhafi's resignation or ouster and that the Libya situation could become a stalemate.
The White House says incremental progress is occurring through increasing diplomatic, political and military pressure on Gadhafi to step down.
In a coincidence of scheduling, Obama and Boehner are set to play golf together for the first time Saturday, a day after Boehner's deadline for information from the administration and the day before he says it could be in violation of the War Powers Resolution.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/06/14/boehner.war.powers/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Boehner warns of possible War Powers Resolution violation over Libya
Washington (CNN) -- The Obama administration could be in violation of the War Powers Resolution if it fails to get congressional authorization by Sunday for U.S. participation in the Libya military mission, House Speaker John Boehner said Tuesday.
In a letter to President Barack Obama that his aides made public, Boehner, R-Ohio, complained that the administration has failed to address questions about the mission that were in a House resolution passed June 3. That resolution set a two-week deadline for a response.
Boehner's letter reiterated the Friday deadline and took the additional step of warning that a failure to respond could violate the War Powers Resolution.
According to Boehner, a 90-day deadline for congressional authorization of the Libya mission expires Sunday.
"It would appear that, in five days, the administration will be in violation of the War Powers Resolution unless it asks for and receives authorization from Congress or withdraws all U.S. troops and resources from the mission," Boehner's letter said.
The White House has previously said it was complying with the War Powers Resolution through frequent briefings on the Libya mission.
Boehner's letter contested that assertion.
"Since the mission began, the administration has provided tactical operational briefings to the House of Representatives, but the White House has systematically avoided requesting a formal authorization for its action," Boehner's letter said. "It has simultaneously sought, however, to portray that its actions are consistent with the War Powers Resolution. The combination of these actions has left many members of Congress, as well as the American people, frustrated by the lack of clarity over the administration's strategic policies, by a refusal to acknowledge and respect the role of the Congress, and by a refusal to comply with the basic tenets of the War Powers Resolution."
Such political wrangling over war powers is common in Washington, with presidents frequently seeking to expand their freedom to commit U.S. forces and Congress battling to exert influence on the process.
Boehner's letter said that, in this case, "the ongoing, deeply divisive debate originated with a lack of genuine consultation prior to commencement of operations and has been further exacerbated by the lack of visibility and leadership from you and your administration."
With his letter, Boehner raised the stakes on an issue that could prove politically embarrassing to Obama, with increasing numbers of Republicans and Democrats opposing the Libya mission.
Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona, who supports the Libya mission, said Tuesday that he expected the White House to provide Congress with details on the Libya mission this week.
"My understanding is the White House will be sending over a report and lots of information about what we've done," McCain said, adding that the Senate could then vote on a resolution backing the mission that would be intended to satisfy questions over the War Powers Resolution requirement.
To McCain, the delay in a White House response made the issue more challenging than necessary.
"I can assure you that it's gonna be much more difficult, with a lot more amendments and a lot more debates, than if we would have done this a couple months ago," McCain said.
National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor said late Tuesday that the information would probably be delivered to members of Congress on Wednesday.
"We are in the final stages of preparing extensive information for the House and Senate that will address a whole host of issues about our ongoing efforts in Libya, including those raised in the House resolution as well as our legal analysis with regard to the War Powers Resolution," he said.
Since March 1, administration witnesses have testified at more than 10 hearings that included a "substantial discussion of Libya" and participated in more than 30 member or staff briefings on the matter, he said.
In announcing the mission in March, Obama said U.S. forces would take the early lead in establishing a no-fly zone over the country in order to enforce a U.N. resolution calling for the protection of Libyan civilians from forces loyal to leader Moammar Gadhafi.
The U.S. forces eventually assumed a supporting role as NATO took over the mission.
Congressional opponents of the mission say that its objective of civilian protection fails to match the stated U.S. goal of Gadhafi's resignation or ouster and that the Libya situation could become a stalemate.
The White House says incremental progress is occurring through increasing diplomatic, political and military pressure on Gadhafi to step down.
In a coincidence of scheduling, Obama and Boehner are set to play golf together for the first time Saturday, a day after Boehner's deadline for information from the administration and the day before he says it could be in violation of the War Powers Resolution.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/06/14/boehner.war.powers/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
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