to me, that is the epitome of americans needing to be coddled, they can't do ANYTHING without involving some type of agency or 3rd party
think about it its not good at all
also, no offense Jo, but in general, counselors and therapists are a big bunch of fuck and lonely americans need them because they have no real friends or family
sorry but i tell it like i see it
This is why you tend to be so full of septic effluent.
[Robeson]Your arguments always stem from a personal deep seated disdain of "Americana" which distracts from the central thesis and always ends up in a tangential diversion to more fecal rubbish.[/Robeson]
Like marital issues and 3-party interventions in indigenous (heck even egalitarian)societies are a foreign concept?
*spits* 
ptt-uah!
Look, for thousands of years people had happy, successful LONG term marriages before any of this stuff was even invented!
People? Which "people"?
For thousands of years?
How many thousand?
And "this stuff was invented" exactly, when?
And your source of this data is ...?
WTF alien brand of obtuse mediocre mentality would illicit such a dumb statement?
Bi-girlism
they take the role that family and friends are supposed to take thus further alienating people and also, before I let a person give me advice(tell me what to do) I want to see the conditon of THEIR LIFE!
Family and friends huh?
The objective, unprejudiced, dispassionate and unbiased family members and friends we all have?
I'm assuming the "condition of
your life" predisposes you offer up your virtuoso advice on this mater?
Hmm?
Stupid argument.
That someones life condition isn't aligned with the advice or knowledge they provide obviously doesn't necessarily devalue it.
Myopic genius neuroscience professors, Charles Barkley, you, etc.
parents and married friends is a whole different thing from a therapist!why you put so much trust in a total stranger? bet their
life more in shambles than yours is
you are missing the whole point I guess you too indoctrinated to see what I saying
Maybe you're the one so blinded and prejudiced by your personal
issues with "America"
... that you fail to see through the bullshit smog that prevents you from acknowledging that even your dearly beloved "homegrown" "pristine" "indigenous" cultural heritage isn't the panacea of human civilization.
they don't even know you or your partner they just give you a bunch of formatted pre-programmed bullshit
Your blatant ignorance of what constitutes premarital counseling is clearly demonstrated in the above "
Bluntonian" statement.
Both are a requirement to me.
I think there is some real confusion on what goes on in pre-marital classes. It is not to get in your business, it is not to tell you how to live your life or run your marriage. Instead the classes encourage discussions and force the couple to look outside of the "oh we're so happy this will last forever and ever" rose colored glasses and really see if they are compatible when real life issues come up.
Thank you.
