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Pick Up Artists: Gaming and Seduction

METHODIST said:
Tom has been doing the God's work for a while now...LOL. Thanks for the drop.


Respeck to all the men who does the work of the lord. Tom, Tariq Nasheed, Thunder Cat, Savoy, Hypnotica, Sinn, Sin, Styles, Mystery, Paul Janka, Mehow, Asian Playboy, David Dangelo, Carlos Xuma, Rich H, Brad P., Johnny Wolf, Gary Brodsky, Eric Weber, Vin DiCarlo, David Shade, John Blaze, Twixter, 26, Archer Sloan, Adonis, Swinggcat etc....etc.
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no David Deangelo? I owe all my thanks to him. He took me out of my simpdom lol. I never knew he was in the pua community til style came out with his book in 06.
 
Methodist, you are taking this shit too serious. I was into some of this shit about 7 to 8 years ago. I am somewhat a Natural so I was able to figure out very quick which was BS. Here is a quick summary..

- NLP is BS. Don't waste your time.
- Inner game is important. David Deangelo's double your dating is more than adequate to develop inner game. You just need to internalize the mindset that you should not be needy or be a simp.
- Get away from some of this shit for a while. It is very consuming. It need not be that way.
- Some of this shit fills your head with jargon that you can seduce any woman. It's complete unadulterated BS. You cannot. A lot of women will reject you and a lot to times, it has nothing to do with your game. They may have B/F, their mind set could be fucked up, don't waste your time.
- Dress well. It vastly improves your chances. If you are not getting compliments virtually everytime you go out, you need to step it up.
- FORTUNE FAVORS THE BOLD. When I think about all the time I banged a chick the first night, it was simply because I was in a good state and I just approached the right woman with confidence. I did not run any major game. When you dress well, they are already feeling your style. You step in, do your thing and the rest is history.
- When you go to a club, your number 1 priority is getting in a good state. When you in a good state, everything comes naturally. You do not feel approach anxiety or nothing else. You just roll.
- Again, Be bold. Right now, I hardly take numbers. I try to smash the same night, it does not work, oh well. If the girl is extremely gorgeous I may take the number, but that's not my first choice.
 
METHODIST said:
Susan Jeffers - Feel The Fear And Do It Anyway
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http://rapidshare.com/files/277925541/Susan_Jeffers_-_Feel_The_Fear_And_Do_It_Anyway.zip
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Found...thanks.
 
Rennaissance man said:
Methodist, you are taking this shit too serious. I was into some of this shit about 7 to 8 years ago. I am somewhat a Natural so I was able to figure out very quick which was BS. Here is a quick summary..

- NLP is BS. Don't waste your time.
- Inner game is important. David Deangelo's double your dating is more than adequate to develop inner game. You just need to internalize the mindset that you should not be needy or be a simp.
- Get away from some of this shit for a while. It is very consuming. It need not be that way.
- Some of this shit fills your head with jargon that you can seduce any woman. It's complete unadulterated BS. You cannot. A lot of women will reject you and a lot to times, it has nothing to do with your game. They may have B/F, their mind set could be fucked up, don't waste your time.
- Dress well. It vastly improves your chances. If you are not getting compliments virtually everytime you go out, you need to step it up.
- FORTUNE FAVORS THE BOLD. When I think about all the time I banged a chick the first night, it was simply because I was in a good state and I just approached the right woman with confidence. I did not run any major game. When you dress well, they are already feeling your style. You step in, do your thing and the rest is history.
- When you go to a club, your number 1 priority is getting in a good state. When you in a good state, everything comes naturally. You do not feel approach anxiety or nothing else. You just roll.
- Again, Be bold. Right now, I hardly take numbers. I try to smash the same night, it does not work, oh well. If the girl is extremely gorgeous I may take the number, but that's not my first choice.
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agreed with what you said. additionally, you have to understand, different people are at different stages. base on your posting you seem to reached a level of mastery. if you are a natural, it will be very difficult for you to understand the mindset of a man who is a 28 year old virgin (true story one of the guys I work with). Ever natural I have interviewed, says the same thing you have said.

If I want to be truly effective, I have to provide all the information I can to benefit all in different stages. One cannot just be confident, confidence is the sum total of different social interations and successes.

Also I have to be honest at what stage of learning I am, if I want to truly communicate with these brothers.

respect, your posting and thoughts, appreciated
 
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The art of mingling: proven techniques of mastering any room.

How to talk to anyone: 92 little secrects...

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Thanks in advance.
 
Sexual Framing/Framing

A frame is a psychological device that offers a perspective and manipulates salience in order to influence subsequent judgment
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Basically you setting frames for her to live in. When you were a student in school and your teacher told you were smart. Around that teacher you acted smart. The teacher framed you and you acted that way. Imagine framing a woman as a wild sexual being who is really open and she lives up to that frame? Think of everrything she will do with and for you.

There are many frames that should be se depending on what you are trying t accomplish ie. one night stands have different frames that should be set from when you ar looking for girlfirend.

Here are some frames I set with every woman whether I am going for the same night lay or the fuck buddy

I/We are Non judgmental
We are Sexually aggressive
We are Discrete
We are adventerous
I am Truthful
We are Spontaneous
I am Mysterious
I am High maintenance
I am cooler than her

How do you set frames, they are not as complex as this audio leads you to believe. SOme can be set through a simple story or a sentence or actions. We all set frames we just don't know we are doing them.

Ex Setting the Truth frame:

Telling a story when you were a child and you got a beating for lying. The you can say you never lied again. Then say, you seem like a very truthful person. She goes on to say "sure I am" Now she is going to want to be truthful to you.

Captin Jack - The Sexual Framing Master Course
http://rapidshare.com/files/315827413/Captin_Jack_-_The_Sexual_Framing_Master_Course.zip
 
METHODIST said:
In my experience, it does not matter if she is or is'nt into video games because as a seducer you have already set certain frames which she is trying her best to live up; said frames will make her want to play along, even if she thinks video games are kiddy.

Such frames are:
You (seducer) is sexy, dominant, leader, the date to her is a reward from you
You and her are both spontaneous, adventurous , fun loving, "crazy," does shit on the spur of the moment, follow your hearts.

I do the same things over and over. Here is a long example of how I would do it. This works for me. Dave and busters would be my first stop of four: (a) Dave and Busters (B) Drug Store (C) Lounge then to (d)seduction Location (her house or mine,) prefiberarly mine. The reason you want to take her to more than one place is because every new place the two of you go, the more comfortable she becomes with you. It's like killing three dates in one evening and she thinks in her mind you went on three dates. Every new place you go to you create an atmosphere that you are the only & the coolest people there. It leads to faster rapport. I'll break down what I would do at each location.

Dave & Busters

As we are eating, interrupt her conversation, and reach in and wipe her mouth, whether she has food on it or not. Then tell lots of stories peppered with attractive qualities, then get her to share some of her own. And ask her open ended question. "tell me more?" or "and What else?" Set some more frames I forgot to set over the phone, build some more comfort. Do some more qualification along with jokes and teases. Then I will find some way to transition the conversation into sex.

You: Wow this food is spicy? Are you aware he say that peppers are aphrodisiacs. or
You: Wow look at xxx video game character, she is very busty, with those things you have there,* looking at her breast* you too can be a video game character. If you were to be in this video game what would be your name? I can totally see you in this video game.

As we are playing video games, I pick something that I am good at and "beat" her for most of the games. Tease her as ugk points above

You: "you suck but you can change my car's oil right?" [she laughs]

Then I would take out my phone and hold it as a microphone

You: "so methodist after you beat XXX what are you going to do?
You: "I am going to Disney world and I would like to thank my haters (xxx included), my mother, pookie from the block.[she laugh again]

As we are playing next to each other, I'd hip bum her with my hip, no clearer message than this is a sexual relationship. The I would go for faster rapport by creating a space in her mind that it's us against the world. I would say something like: "We are the coolest people here, look at that other couple over there, he look like such a lame, we should go over there and challenge them to play dance revolution or some other game." I would not actually go over and challenge the other couple but befriend them and we play with them. This communicates that you are social person which is an attractive quality. I would then take the guys number. "He bro, my friends and I may be hanging out next Friday at such and such a place, you and your girl should totally come along." Give me your number and I will text you the info. This communicates that you are Mr. social. You don't even have to text him, you don't even have to be going anywhere. The point is that you want to make friends with someone when you go out at any of the locations you take her to. Next place to take her.

CVS:to get gum, or some type of convenient store. I would walk along the isles with her and be playful, talk about a product, talk about something it reminded you of. Push her in the isle, run away from her, poke or hit her with a toy. Then talk to a random employee, say something playful like:

You: "This is my date, she is fragile, so I decided to keep her in bubble wrap in my glove box."
Employee: *Smiles*
You: You think I should keep her?
Employee: sure!
You: I have not decided yet it depends on how fun she is and what comes out of her mouth in the next hour. *smile*

The above statements is so fucking powerful, that I deliver them in so many different ways, sometimes on the phone before we meet, as I am taking the number or even on the first date. Why? it demonstrates the frame that you are the selector and she is not choosing you. powerful shit!!!

Lounge:
I would take her to a sit down place, a lounge is best. Low light, candles, music and this all communicates sex. Candles and water fronts and low lights are always seen as romantic. Here you build a deep connection with her, you ask her about people who are close to her, her future aspirations, goals and passions. You are basically doing comfort game. At every different location I am touching her but at this location, I will be kissing her, she must be kissed. If you plan on sleeping with this girl and doing it at the end of the night, you must kiss her.

Nothing too deep, nothing too passionate. At this point in my game, I don't even use any kiss gambits, more times she is so gamed all I have to do is reach in, raise her chin and kiss her. Then you find an excuse to go back to your place or hers. Talk some more, maybe dance a little. A drink or two. Then off to seduction loaction. You have to come up with a good excuse. I want to show you such and such, best if something you talked about earlier in the date.

To Seduction Location
On the way back, you keep talking, engage her logical mind. Keep talking, light kino (touch). I prefer to have sing alongs. I have a 180gig Ipod filled with music, there is something on there that she knows, except my audio on game. LOL. I sometimes pull the car over, "This is my song" walk around open her door, "give me your hand as she gets out, I dance with her at the side of the street. Jump back in the car. Back to singing or sharing stories back and forth. When I get to seduction location....I don't jump her bones right away because that's what's she is expecting, I find something for us to do together then I slowly lead into it.
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genius dude! I was just schooling dudes the other night how doing a date like dave and busters or something fun and "gamey" is the way. They kept saying dinner with live music but I was like thats too cliche... makes u look like any other guy.


but doing 4 locations is genius.
 
sj808 said:
genius dude! I was just schooling dudes the other night how doing a date like dave and busters or something fun and "gamey" is the way. They kept saying dinner with live music but I was like thats too cliche... makes u look like any other guy.


but doing 4 locations is genius.
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good stuff fam. more than one location build faster rapport. dave and busters is Brasis idea. I agree that dinner and movies are cliche, plus its hard to game and touch her at these places.


it dosen't matter where you go, its just the fact that you have fun there. I have done one day dates. Museusm>>>ice cream truck>>>99 cents store>>>her place.

at museum, I demonstrated my intelligence, teased her, questioned her about her intelligence ("serious convo"). ice cream truck, we ate icream, laughed, smear her cheeks with ice cream. 99 cents store, I stop for gum :D I always stop for gum. we played in isles, I put party hat on her and sang happy birthday to her. "happy birthday dear dorky" (made up lyrics she is laughing. pushed (literally), teased, ran away from her. then to her place and got LMR. bounced and closed her the next time we met.
 
Hey Methodist can you drop that "relationship mastery" again

I need to hit your inbox up too man... my relationship still going strong but damnit there is a lot of aggravation lol. Keep asking myself why i took myself off the market.
 
As a few of know HD crashed so I had to rebuild/Re download, collect alot of this stuff I gave to ppl (bgol members, friends) and had them send it back so I could share again.

So methodist why do you go through great lenghts to share this stuff and make the information avaibable? simple it changed my life for the better, I got better with women, better with friends, better in many social situations...ect the learning curve was long and could have been cut in half with proper guidance but somebody is gotta take the plunge first.

For those of you asking for more's brent's stuff. this is the ony thing I recovered form him

Brent - Holiday Hook tele seminar
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^^^ I think those are imperative to the game. Probably the real reason some guys don't pull many women. Confidence is relative to context but the attitude. That's the kicker, should've seen it before. You could know the game but unless you have the attitude to pull it off the ladies won't respect your game, I think attitude has a lot to do with it. It's one those little things, little basic things. :yes: :cool:

Good shit.
 

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