^^^^ That David X book is the SHIT
Its in the same league as Mode One
There are two different schools in the dating world: The Indirect Way (Mystery Method) and The Direct Way (Mode One, David X)
Basically he's all about being honest and upfront with your intentions but at the same time being smooth with it.
You gotta read this book...its not so much what he says but its his ATTITUDE....he really DOESNT GIVE A FUCK..
Just read it and you'll understand his frame of mind
DAVID X VS. MYSTERY METHOD:
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In reply to an earlier post on Feb 28, 2007 1:48 PM PST
Alan Roger Currie says:
If those techniques work, then I won't criticize them.
But in my experience, both techniques take way too much effort, and are way too deceptive and/or manipulative.
My approach (The "Mode One" approach) is all about highly self-assured, upfront, unapologetic, straightforward honesty. No manipulative head games, no NLP gimmicks, no psychological "tricks."
My 'formula' is simply this: An exceptionally high degree of confidence + straightforward honesty + no fear of rejection and/or criticism = one hell of a psychological 'aphrodisiac' with women.
Example:
Man (approaching model at nightclub): "So ... should we share each others company next Friday or next Saturday ...."
Female model: "Excuse me??"
Man w/ Mode One approach: "You're excused. (pause) So. Which day works best for you? Next Friday or next Saturday? Or would you suggest another weekend in the next 2 to 4 weeks?"
Model (Response "A" - Rejection): "I'm sorry, but I'm just not interested."
[Comment: You do not 'beg' for this woman's attention and/or companionship. You simply leave her alone. If a woman is not interested in dating you and/or having sex with you, the worse thing you can do is "beg" for her attention. If you do, you're basically asking to be used and manipulated]
Model (Response "B" - Resistance): "You're very sure of yourself, aren't you?? What makes you think I would be interested in sharing your company in the near future ... when I don't even KNOW you??"
Man (slightly cocky smirk on his face): "Well ... we'll just have to get together in a week or two so that you can find out what makes me so interesting and dynamic. (pause) So ... why don't you write down your phone number or Email address, and I'll contact you to set up a specific time for next Friday or Saturday...."
Model (Response "C" - Immediate Reciprocation): "I love your approach! How original!! My name is [her name] ... what is yours?? (man says his name) You have me curious. I'm intrigued. I would have no problem hooking up with you next weekend...."
Trust me. The "Mode One" approach has been used by MANY MEN, and they've received productive results. Again, I'm not saying that Ian or Mystery's techniques are 'ineffective' ... I'm sure they work for some guys ... but I just think you're going through a lot of trouble to manipulate women when there is no guarantee of reciprocal results.
My thoughts....
Alan
Author, "Mode One: Let The Women Know What You're REALLY Thinking" ISBN 1591138973
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Metal Mouth says:
Um, have you read either Mystery's or Ian's book? I wouldn't say they are geniuses but they are pretty damn close. I picked up a copy of Mystery Method after reading God is a Woman and then going to Ian's site where I stumbled around and found a link to a review he did on Mystery Method, which he gave 4/5 stars. I ask because if you're going to make generalizations about these books you should read them first. I haven't finished Mystery's but it's really good thus far. God is a Woman is fabulous.
Just FYI Ian doesn't just use this one approach, just in certain situations. In a quickie he talks about how he's gotten very pretty, popular women to go out with him by telling them they're going out, kind of like what you wrote here. He uses the example of when he asked a girl what she was doing this week in a email, she replied she didn't know, what was he doing, he replied Thursday I'm having dinner with you, where are we going? She replied You blew me away with that. Okay and chose a place. Mystery seems to have different methods, too.
Also, it seems like you don't even care about the women you meet. Mystery and Ian don't just go after every women. It seems pretty shallow to bounce from one woman to the next until you get a positive response. That's simply playing the numbers game and anyone can do that. We want to know how to get that one woman we are really craving for and Mystery and Ian talk about how to make that happen. That's what we want to know.
I do think it's cool that you don't criticize Mystery's or Ian's techniques. Good luck with your book and I'm glad your technique works for you.
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Alan Roger Currie says:
Was this reply directed to me?
"Also, it seems like you don't even care about the women you meet."
Not true. You would have to read my book.
"Mystery and Ian don't just go after every women. It seems pretty shallow to bounce from one woman to the next until you get a positive response. That's simply playing the numbers game and anyone can do that."
Again, it's obvious you haven't read my book. My book is not AT ALL about simply seeking out a "positive response" from women. Matter of fact, it's almost JUST THE OPPOSITE.
"We want to know how to get that one woman we are really craving for and Mystery and Ian talk about how to make that happen. That's what we want to know."
I cover that too in my book.
"I do think it's cool that you don't criticize Mystery's or Ian's techniques. Good luck with your book and I'm glad your technique works for you."
Not just for ME, but my "Mode One" approach has helped HUNDREDS of men. I haven't read Ian's book, so I cannot validly comment on it. But just from some excerpts, and things I've read, it seems to be promoting the whole idea of initially 'pretending you're not interested in a woman when you know deep-down that you are.'
I'm more familiar with Mystery's techniques. Some, I don't have problem with, while others I think are deceptive and/or manipulative. The #1 thing I criticize about his book though is simply the subtitle ("The Foolproof Way To Get ANY Woman You Want Into Bed"). That is totally misleading marketing. There is NO BOOK OUT THERE that can teach you how to get ANY WOMAN YOU WANT into bed.
I would challenge any author on that.
Alan
Author, "Mode One: Let The Women Know What You're REALLY Thinking"
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Metal Mouth says:
Yup, it was to you. Sorry if I offended you, I only meant your response seemed to be one of just keep going up to other women quickly when you get turned down. I never said or implied I read your book, which I haven't. I did ask if you read the other authors books and you haven't. Yet you comment on both.
"I haven't read Ian's book, so I cannot validly comment on it."
Then you comment on it:
"But just from some excerpts, and things I've read, it seems to be promoting the whole idea of initially 'pretending you're not interested in a woman when you know deep-down that you are."
Just FYI you couldn't be further off. It just annoys me when writers comment on books they haven't read to push their own book. You're offering insight into something you haven't read. Read the book then offer insight, that's totally cool.
"I'm more familiar with Mystery's techniques."
You haven't read his book either then but comment on his techniques. Yes, they are popular and you probably know many of them but this is a forum on his book page, so people should read the book or be reading it. It is quite possible he has made some changes in his technique for the book, learned more and new things, yes? You wouldn't know about this unless you read the book.
I have no insight on your book and want to make that clear to anyone who reads this. I only offer my reply to your comment about the 3 models. Clearly you and Mystery have some different views. Your reply here is to be bold and show strong interest right away. Mystery says most guys fail because they emit sexual interest too soon. The two of you could have an interesting debate on that. Personally, I find Mystery's view to be very accurate.
I won't make anymore comments until I've read your book and then I'll put them on your book's page.
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Alan Roger Currie says:
Actually, your criticism(s) of me are fair. I actually do hate it when people try to comment on my book without thoroughly reading my book first.
So on that note, I will make no judgments or criticisms against this particular book ("Mystery Method") or Ian's book ("God Is A Woman").
But I still maintain my criticism of that subtitle on Mystery's book ("The Foolproof Way To Get Any Woman You Want Into Bed"). That is on the cover for every man to see. Again, I just personally think having a subtitle like that creates "hype" and is misleading.
Alan
Author, "Mode One: Let The Women Know What You're REALLY Thinking"
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Ray Gordon --
http://www.cybersheet.com/li... says:
Your method sounds like presuming the sale, which is a standard sales technique.
Problem is if she doesn't buy into your frame, you either wind up looking like a predator or a dweeb.
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Alan Roger Currie says:
"Problem is, if she doesn't buy into your frame, you either wind up looking like a predator or a dweeb."
Blunt honesty? I'm willing to take that risk (of being perceived as an 'a**hole' or 'predator'). My basic attitude is, if a woman is not interested ... she's just not interested. You can't "make" a woman become interested in you.
You would have to read my book to further understand....
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P. McIntosh says:
I don't get the whole sex-without-intimacy thing. If all you guys want is to crack a nut without having to commit or bother connecting with a woman emotionally, why not just grab a magazine and whack off?
Testosterone makes people do strange things...
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R. Monahan says:
Alan, do you reply to any posts without accusing people of not reading your book and telling everyone what you hate? I'll buy a copy of your book with my order for The Game since its short, if its any good I will let you know, but from the table of contents and first couple of pages it doesnt look much better then your whiney posts. I'll keep it in the crapper and the worst that could happen is that it helps me with my business in there!
Guys, if you want to meet women all you need to do is say hello and be yourself. Why not try complimenting a lady with something that is true, instead of insulting them or otherwise attempting to degrade them in order to avoid exposure of your own insecurities? Just a thought, I am sure that the techniques in the books do in fact work.
- Rit
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Alan Roger Currie says:
"Alan, do you reply to any posts without accusing people of not reading your book and telling everyone what you hate?"
There is a huge difference between just simply 'hating' on a book, and challenging the validity and/or effectiveness of its contents.
"I'll buy a copy of your book with my order for The Game since its short, if its any good I will let you know, but from the table of contents and first couple of pages it doesnt look much better then your whiney posts."
Cute. People on message boards and blogs love to throw out the "you are whining" accusation. Anytime you challenge something, you are perceived as "whining." That's because most people don't know how to intelligently debate.
"Guys, if you want to meet women all you need to do is say hello and be yourself."
I half-agree, and half-disagree. I believe in "being yourself," but its not just as simple as saying "hello." You have to be bold, highly self-assured, and straight-to-the-point with women.
"Why not try complimenting a lady with something that is true, instead of insulting them or otherwise attempting to degrade them in order to avoid exposure of your own insecurities? Just a thought, I am sure that the techniques in the books do in fact work."
I'm not a big fan of compliments or insults. On a scale from "1" to "5," with "5" representing behavior that is totally pleasant, flattering, and accommodating ... and "1" representing behavior that is totally rude, insulting, and misogynistic ... I'm in favor of behavior towards women that is in the "2.5 - 3.5" range.
Alan
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In reply to an earlier post on Sep 26, 2007 4:34 AM PDT
R. Monahan says:
Alan, I was kinda rough on ya, my bad. It was because it seemed like all your posts were saying "you would have to read my book to understand", then the comment where u said you hate when people criticise your book without reading it, so I went and checked out the Search inside feature on your book and saw the word hate again in the first couple of pages so I jumped on it. Sorry for being so judgemental!
Back to the subject at hand, I found that a simple hello was a great opener and from there be true and see where it takes you. Im by no means a player but additionally I would have to say you MUST be interesting, so what can one talk about to keep it interesting for the lady. Also one needs to know what the intention is. Are they just looking to get laid, looking for a single girlfriend, etc. I am a see what happens kind of guy, but in retrospect, I was always hoping to keep them interested long enough to get laid, and rarely planned much further then that!
So in conclusion I would vote to run an interesting challenge on a prospect, be respectful, and not get into throwing "negs" as mystery would say, because I think that any guy worth a ladies time would not need to put them down in order to get some play. I just cant think of any positive reason for that.
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This makes the most sense that I have ever heard. Now, I know what to do. My problem is I never know what to do, now I know. CHALLENGE them. In other words, give them a test, THEY HAVE A HARD WIRED NEED to prove themselves to you. Now, .... it makes sense to me. Thanks Marco Polo! Michael, Santa Clarita, CA
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Michael A. Adams says:
Marco Polo, this is the BEST advice I have ever seen anywhere: ""If women don't know what they want, how the hell are we supposed to know? We can't, which is why it's very important to pay attention to women's actions over their words. If a woman's actions don't match what she's saying, heed her actions over her words."" As I look back over the years of my past relationships, your are so right-on, MEN must pay attention to their actions, as their actions do speak louder than their words. (Yes, we know, some women (few) do follow their words.) So, as I get back into the dating game at my age, here's what I think: Ignore what the hell they say, treat them like you would your "Best Friend" (your dog): Guide them, Point them, Lead them, pet them, and always Limit them! After all, you are the MAN. REMEMBER Men, WOMEN ARE SNEAKY! Michael44a Santa Clarita, CA
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Daniel Swinney says:
The vagina feels better than the hand, duh.
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Carl Free says:
To men, sex *is* intimacy. How does a man know when a woman is attracted? She has sex with him. That's how he knows that he was able to reach her. That's how he knows that he is attractive. The reason a vagina feels better to a man than any of the realistic devices we have nowadays, is because of the emotional significance that comes with it. Same reason why most women don't give up men in favor of vibrators.
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Mary Jean Wallace says:
"The idea here is that sometimes women don't even know they are interested and you have to work some game to help them realize it"
Sorry to rain on your parade here... but I'm a woman and if I'm not attracted to a guy, I'm not attracted. That's it. THere is no amount of "work" he can do in the course of a few hours to make me "realize" anything. Of course, I'm not a club rat either...
Plus, this is a dangerous, predatory area. I think it's dangerous to tell men that "women don't know what they want." It leads to the possibility of men thinking that "no" doesn't really mean "no."
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... I am feeling the whole honest direct outlook....David X and Mode one type mentality 
