Philly's first pay-what-you-can restaurant is open. Why is hardly anyone eating there?

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Matso Baatarkhuu, 28, moved to the United States from Mongolia this fall on a scholarship to study creative writing at Temple University. He's new to this country - but, due to a gap in the disbursement of his stipend, he encountered a phenomenon deeply familiar to impoverished Americans: end-of-the-month hunger pangs.



Philly's first pay-what-you-can restaurant is open. Why is hardly anyone eating there?
He was lucky, though. He stumbled upon EAT Cafe, a special kind of restaurant where customers pay only what they can afford.

"I was about to starve and this place saved my life," said Baatarkhuu, who's dined there several times since it opened in late October in the city's Mantua section. "It's not just that it's this pay-what-you-can model, but they also have great, respectful service. They really take care of you."

More than two years in the making, Philadelphia's first nonprofit "community cafe," as they are often known, is finally open. A venture of Drexel University, with support from Vetri Community Partnership, Giant Food Stores, and others, EAT Cafe - short for "Everyone at the Table" - serves dinner four days a week, for a suggested $15.

Mariana Chilton, who heads Drexel's Center for Hunger-Free Communities, first encountered the concept in Brazil and later in Denver. She decided to adapt the idea, with a twist.

"There are about 50 cafes like this across the country, but most of them are cafeteria-style and tend to be in church basements. Ours is a full-service restaurant, serving a three-course meal," she said. "I wanted to make sure this would not be confused with a soup kitchen. It sets the stage for a place where all different kinds of people would want to meet up and intermingle."


General manager Donnell Jones-Craven hopes it will be a model for a new breed of restaurants serving locals of all income levels. But first, he'll have to make this one sustainable.

Last Thursday, a half-dozen staffers prepared for dinner service, adding water to jam jars of chrysanthemums on each table in the 30-seat dining room and stocking cooking stations in the open kitchen. Because customers choose their own price, there's a no-tipping policy. Instead, all staffers make a flat hourly wage.

Jones-Craven bounded downstairs, through the prep kitchen, into his office. On the wall is a vision board he made last summer, filled with photos and logos representing supporters like Metropolitan Bakery, which donates bread for each meal, served in generous slices with ramekins of seasoned olive oil, and La Colombe, which provides discounted coffee.

Jones-Craven aspires to get 60 percent of his ingredients donated. His target $3.25-per-meal food cost, he said, "is a hard feat to do in three courses."

The menu changes weekly, wandering from Caribbean to Tex-Mex to Thai, in response to donations like the 30 pounds of green tomatoes he received from the Drexel Urban Growers garden.

Jones-Craven decided to slice, bread, and fry them, and incorporate them into a soul food-inspired menu for the week. A sample meal: A green salad with steamed kale, blue cheese, and dried cranberries; an entree of ginger-glazed fried chicken with mac-and-cheese, fried green tomatoes, and roasted vegetables; and apple cobbler for dessert.


Jones-Craven comes from a corporate and catering background, and the food resembles what you might find in a high-end company cafeteria, more neighborhood eatery than destination restaurant. He likes to shift the protein from the center of the plate to one side - a subtle nudge toward plant-based dining.

"We're trying to change how people relate to food," he said.

But it's slow going.

At 4:30 p.m., a staffer unlocked the front door, but no one was there. A target is 130 meals a night. EAT Cafe served just 125 meals in its first week. Getting the word out through community groups, and getting a larger sign on the window, are both on Jones-Craven's to-do list.

By 5 p.m. Thursday, there was just one diner. That was Michael DiLucca, 22, in a Drexel Rowing windbreaker. He said curiosity, more than hunger, had drawn him in for an early solo dinner.

"My expectations were pretty low. I was extremely surprised by how nice it looks in here," he said.

He thinks fellow students will gravitate to the cafe soon enough.

"I have friends who refuse to ever go out to eat. They even try to find student body meetings that have free food," he said. "So if I can get them to come here, we can have a good time."

By 7 p.m., a few more diners had arrived. John Lindsay, who lives next door, stopped in for soup and salad. He pledged to return with a load of turnips from the Wyota Street Community Garden nearby.

There was Sydney Coffin, 47, a teacher at Edison High School, killing time during a three-hour wait at the emergency room at Presbyterian Hospital.

"I was talking to a homeless guy in the waiting room there. I'm going to tell him about this place," Coffin said.

And Tim Perdue, 24, a recent Drexel grad who works at an architecture firm, who said he liked the food and the idea of dining for a cause. "I realize how many people can't pay, so people paying it forward can offset that," he said.

Most community cafes lose money, Chilton said. The Leo and Peggy Pierce Foundation seeded the enterprise, and Chilton expects it will rely on grants for three years. Hopefully, it will be self-sustaining after that. Drexel calculates each diner must pay an average of $15 to achieve that.

It will be a complex experiment in economics. Jones-Craven hopes at least 80 percent of customers will pay some amount. He emphasizes to them that it's pay-what-you-can, not free.

Last Wednesday, the average payment was $13.62, he said. "But Thursday and Friday were not too profitable. We had customers come in, and they gave us what they had. A grad student came and he was a little embarrassed, but he pulled out a bunch of change from his pocket. That's fine."

The concept of fighting hunger with hospitality has already been in practice in Philadelphia, at places like the Broad Street Ministry, where meals are served to guests by volunteer waitstaff.

EAT Cafe, Chilton emphasized, is not that. It does not provide wraparound services or referrals. There is no research component to this work.

"It's not going to reduce food insecurity in this neighborhood. It's not going to end hunger in the [Mantua] Promise Zone," Chilton said. "This is about creating a good feeling in the community. There's a lot of shame and isolation that goes along with the experience of hunger. This is an opportunity to help people feel included."


EAT Cafe, 3820 Lancaster Ave., Philadelphia, 267-292-2768, eatcafe.org, 4:30-8 p.m. Wednesday-Saturday.

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easy...are they on social media, how is his promotion game, did he give out thousands of flyers??? this is what people don't understand about bizzness, u could have the greatest product ever but if nobody kno it exist how will people buy it..lack of promotion is actually top 3 reasons why bizzness fail.. i can bet nobody kno's it exist and perhaps it could be location... promotion/location big reasons why sometime shit dosen't sell
 
Pay what you can is right up there with Rent-A-Spoon idea....lol

Pay what you can in america is like saying you must not expect much because Americans have wine taste,wine money with nothing but beer thoughts on their minds.
 
like i said they not promoting rite..some dude could gas mad chicks head like yo i kno a nice exclusive place around my way to eat at..dude is a 5 star chef and a few times a week he makes a limited amount of plates at the spot so we got to get there early..broad eat a 3 course meal of diff shit she don't usually eat on cute lil fancy looking plates..broad think she all special now eating at an exclusive eatery lmao..throw the waiter a 20 and call it a day..smash central..lol u could make this into a slide spot...shit so easy to sell
 
I dunno.... something about this just does NOT pass the sniff test. It sounds less that they are trying to provide food to the actual hungry and homeless and more that they are trying to establish a hipster hangout where Social Justice Warriors from Drexel can feel better about themselves while "slumming" for a meal. The census says Philadelphia is 44% Black, yet Powelton Village is only 5% Black (and 16% Asian). Doesn't sound like there are many (any?) homeless people in the neighborhood nearby, either. Can any Philly people weigh in on this?
http://poweltonvillage.org
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powelton_Village,_Philadelphia
http://www.visitphilly.com/philadelphia-neighborhoods/powelton-village

The Grand Opening was Oct 26 and it is only open 4 days a week and only for 3 1/2 hours each day from 4:30pm to 8:00pm. So this restaurant has only been open TWENTY EIGHT HOURS over EIGHT DAYS before this gloom and doom titled article was published - Oct 26/27/28/29 and Nov 2/3/4/5. Yet it says in the article that "The menu changes weekly, wandering from Caribbean to Tex-Mex to Thai". And you are "encouraged" to pay (at least) $15 for a 3 course fixed menu. And there is a mandatory $2.75 charge if you want fruit punch to drink with your meal. What???
:puzzled:
Panera’s pay-as-you-go pricing experiment failed. Here’s how they could fix it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...how-to-profit-when-people-pay-what-they-want/

How Do Pay-What-You-Want Restaurants Work?
Many aim to provide dignity in dining, but is the donation-based business model really sustainable?
http://www.eater.com/2015/5/6/8556309/pay-what-you-want-restaurant-SAME-cafe-panera-cares
 
I heard about this a couple weeks ago, before they had opened. I'm actually planning on trying it out. The main problem that I've been running into are the hours. I'm more likely to eat out for lunch than dinner. Most days, I get out work at like 6 and the first thing I'm usually trying do is go the fuck home. But maybe I'll try to check it out this Saturday.
 
The menu changes weekly, wandering from Caribbean to Tex-Mex to Thai.

That's probably the reason it isn't going so well. Most people like to know what kind of food they're getting before they go out to eat.

Also, it's nearly impossible to be an expert on all styles of cooking. if they're good at Tex Mex and shitty at Thai then it's gonna be a bad week.
 
That's probably the reason it isn't going so well. Most people like to know what kind of food they're getting before they go out to eat.

Also, it's nearly impossible to be an expert on all styles of cooking. if they're good at Tex Mex and shitty at Thai then it's gonna be a bad week.
if he was using social media he could post up his weekly menu...if he had a text list he could text them the menu...it's 2016 not 1996 no excuse not to take advantage of all this tech for bizzness..use it to make money/advance instead of all the other bullshit
 
if he was using social media he could post up his weekly menu...if he had a text list he could text them the menu...it's 2016 not 1996 no excuse not to take advantage of all this tech for bizzness..use it to make money/advance instead of all the other bullshit
Yeah and all it would really take is for him to have a waiter that's in their early 20s to get that popping because they are going to see some of that money. More people eating more people potentially tipping.
 
if he was using social media he could post up his weekly menu...if he had a text list he could text them the menu...it's 2016 not 1996 no excuse not to take advantage of all this tech for bizzness..use it to make money/advance instead of all the other bullshit

Instead he has an online magazine telling the world how empty his place is and mentioning it in the same paragraph as "soup kitchen".

It's a hatchet job, but that's what happens when you don't control your online image.
 
Yeah and all it would really take is for him to have a waiter that's in their early 20s to get that popping because they are going to see some of that money. More people eating more people potentially tipping.
get some bizz cards from vista print..put gourmet meals at a great price..good food that's good on your pockets..get the facebook, ig, twitter(take pics of all the dishes)..make a text list..this dude would have to turn down all the cliental he'd get after that
 
These are the things that I think that BGOL could assist with. You guys, in this thread, have come up with a viable solution for this person's business. Why cannot there be a BGOL SWAT team of sorts that approaches black people and provides solutions to their issues AND implements them? It'd be us giving back too. ijs.
 
Unfortunately cheap or low cost does not equal success in the restaurant business, people are to mentally conditioned to the existing paradigm the
more expensive the restaurant the better the food whether it's true or not, they would have done better to offer high quality at affordable but premium like prices and donate their leftovers to charity.
 
Unfortunately cheap or low cost does not equal success in the restaurant business, people are to mentally conditioned to the existing paradigm the
more expensive the restaurant the better the food whether it's true or not, they would have done better to offer high quality at affordable but premium like prices and donate their leftovers to charity.
shitttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt... let that dude open that same shit here in ny and opened it around some cac areas, colleges, 125th, 145, bk, queens, and he'd have to shut the doors down in less than an hr after opening... i could see them soho cacs having gatherings, taking pics of the food, doin selfie and group selfie pics, inviting friends, hosting parties, some on their laptops while grubbing, people would use this as a slide spot for the cheap..stuff a broad mouth for small bread than smash rite after..she's get a full course meal on pretty plates and think she special= smashfest
 
shitttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt... let that dude open that same shit here in ny and opened it around some cac areas, colleges, 125th, 145, bk, queens, and he'd have to shut the doors down in less than an hr after opening... i could see them soho cacs having gatherings, taking pics of the food, doin selfie and group selfie pics, inviting friends, hosting parties, some on their laptops while grubbing, people would use this as a slide spot for the cheap..stuff a broad mouth for small bread than smash rite after..she's get a full course meal on pretty plates and think she special= smashfest



:rolleyes:...but it's in philly and in the white part.:dunno: If I were in your shoes
I'd be running with the idea you got but a whole lotta "ifs" going on here.:(
 
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