PBF is a no show at court
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Lol, funny. Oh well. At least GBP admitted they were wrong to do that shit to manny and move. They probably realized like everyone else on the planet they had no case without proof.
http://sports.inquirer.net/5308/mayweather-defies-court
In a statement released to media offices, Petrocelli bashed Mayweather as being “afraid to testify.”
“Mr. Mayweather maliciously leveled false accusations about Mr. Pacquiao,” the statement read. “We are anxious to examine him under oath about those statements. He is just dodging his deposition because he is afraid to testify, but he has no right to defy a court order.”
This article alone does not make me think Mayweather is afraid to testify. It's all about Floyd's reaction. If he wasn't guilty of making shit up, why would he react in this manner? This cat must be guilty.
In a statement released to media offices, Petrocelli bashed Mayweather as being “afraid to testify.”
“Mr. Mayweather maliciously leveled false accusations about Mr. Pacquiao,” the statement read. “We are anxious to examine him under oath about those statements. He is just dodging his deposition because he is afraid to testify, but he has no right to defy a court order.”
This article alone does not make me think Mayweather is afraid to testify. It's all about Floyd's reaction. If he wasn't guilty of making shit up, why would he react in this manner? This cat must be guilty.
http://sports.inquirer.net/5308/mayweather-defies-court
In a statement released to media offices, Petrocelli bashed Mayweather as being “afraid to testify.”
“Mr. Mayweather maliciously leveled false accusations about Mr. Pacquiao,” the statement read. “We are anxious to examine him under oath about those statements. He is just dodging his deposition because he is afraid to testify, but he has no right to defy a court order.”
This article alone does not make me think Mayweather is afraid to testify. It's all about Floyd's reaction. If he wasn't guilty of making shit up, why would he react in this manner? This cat must be guilty.
Guilty? You know it's a civil trial, right?
He better cut this shit out, if he thinks testifying is interrupting his training, what does he thinks a few days in jail will do?
Lol, dam dude. I made a post about him having to testify. Stop crying. I would have created a post with the comments he said at the hearing. Just like I posted other articles about *this case. It is interesting as hell.
The whole duck thing is blown out of portion. I have already said that there were fighters I would have loved to have seen him fight. I have already said he didnt duck them. He did not fight them out of fear. But the point remains he left some damn good fights on the table. Get over it. I get that you like the dude. I just like seeing good fights. If that is a conflict when talking about a boxer so be it.*
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So you still present no answer to this...I like good boxers which Floyd is a good boxer and I like good fights which is why I was one of the first to jump on the Floyd vs Pac bandwagon and shit on the Ortiz pick... but this isn't about either of those things....
I just want you to back up your statements. It seems like it is impossible for you to do. You do more ducking or avoiding of this than the most cowardly of fighters. As soon as a tough challenge of your opinions gets thrown your way... you deflect or simply avoid the thread and start another. It is a bitch move and some one who cries about boxers ducking, correction, AVOIDING fights should be able to answer a fucking question or back his words up with something.
By the way, if you like good fights and that is your only motivation, why is a court case interesting when it doesn't have to do with anything that involves fighters getting in the ring?
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Wtf are you talking about? How can I be interested in a court case that involves to of the best fighters in recent years? I dont know what questions you are talking about. Create a post drop your uestions in them and I will answer them. Dude sorry to seem rude, but i guess I just dont concern myself with bgol post as much as other people. I barely can tell you guys apart. Lol, create that post. I will answer them for you. Pretty sure I answered them at some point anyways.
I like good boxers which Floyd is a good boxer and I like good fights which is why I was one of the first to jump on the Floyd vs Pac bandwagon and shit on the Ortiz pick... but this isn't about either of those things....
I just want you to back up your statements. It seems like it is impossible for you to do. You do more ducking or avoiding of this than the most cowardly of fighters. As soon as a tough challenge of your opinions gets thrown your way... you deflect or simply avoid the thread and start another. It is a bitch move and some one who cries about boxers ducking, correction, AVOIDING fights should be able to answer a fucking question or back his words up with something.
By the way, if you like good fights and that is your only motivation, why is a court case interesting when it doesn't have to do with anything that involves fighters getting in the ring?
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Door number 3... play dumb. That's IF you're playing.
Helluva bait and switch there Alaskan... I see what you did here!
Any fighter can do that, but the fact is he fought a handful of the guys he called out.
Already facing a litany of legal problems, undefeated boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr. failed to appear at a deposition Friday as part of a defamation lawsuit brought against him by rival fighter Manny Pacquiao, the Los Angeles Times reported.
The paper reported Thursday that Mayweather's attorney had informed Pacquiao's attorney, Daniel Petrocelli, that his client would not appear at the Las Vegas law office for the court-ordered deposition.
"We're anxious to get to trial and, as a result of this, we'll be seeking a default judgment to win the case by default in the upcoming weeks," Petrocelli said. "This is just ducking a deposition."
The defamation lawsuit was filed after Mayweather and his father both publicly claimed that the record-setting Filipino champion had used performance-enhancing drugs.
A Nevada judge denied an emergency appeal by Mayweather of the order requiring him to give the deposition. Petrocelli said Mayweather's attorney, Mark Tratos, said he would not show up because he was appealing that decision.
The 34-year-old Mayweather has not fought since May 2010 when he scored a convincing unanimous decision over Shane Mosley, running his career record to 41-0. His next fight is scheduled for Sept. 17 in Las Vegas against WBC welterweight titleholder Victor Ortiz.
Mayweather still faces several other legal issues, including felony charges for a domestic violence incident last September involving the mother of three of his children. The next hearing in the case is not until October.
Mayweather is also facing several misdemeanor charges for two separate confrontations last year with private security guards near his Las Vegas mansion. Both incidents were triggered by illegally-parked cars outside Mayweather's house.
http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/sto...show-for-deposition-defamation-lawsuit-061711
The paper reported Thursday that Mayweather's attorney had informed Pacquiao's attorney, Daniel Petrocelli, that his client would not appear at the Las Vegas law office for the court-ordered deposition.
"We're anxious to get to trial and, as a result of this, we'll be seeking a default judgment to win the case by default in the upcoming weeks," Petrocelli said. "This is just ducking a deposition."
The defamation lawsuit was filed after Mayweather and his father both publicly claimed that the record-setting Filipino champion had used performance-enhancing drugs.
A Nevada judge denied an emergency appeal by Mayweather of the order requiring him to give the deposition. Petrocelli said Mayweather's attorney, Mark Tratos, said he would not show up because he was appealing that decision.
The 34-year-old Mayweather has not fought since May 2010 when he scored a convincing unanimous decision over Shane Mosley, running his career record to 41-0. His next fight is scheduled for Sept. 17 in Las Vegas against WBC welterweight titleholder Victor Ortiz.
Mayweather still faces several other legal issues, including felony charges for a domestic violence incident last September involving the mother of three of his children. The next hearing in the case is not until October.
Mayweather is also facing several misdemeanor charges for two separate confrontations last year with private security guards near his Las Vegas mansion. Both incidents were triggered by illegally-parked cars outside Mayweather's house.
http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/sto...show-for-deposition-defamation-lawsuit-061711
This can be solved if they provide any shred of proof that Floyd sabotage those fights. If Floyd calling people out isn't good enough to prove that he wanted the fights why is it that people who aren't involved can just say he was scared without any proof.
Door number 3... play dumb. That's IF you're playing.
Lol, what you fail to grasp is that I dont know wtf you want to know. It is not playing dumb. It is more about focusing on things that are important to me. It should be clear your question were not important to me. Otherwise I would have remembered them. Still instead of crying about me invading those questions. Just do as I have asked. Ask me again so I can answer them again. Make a thread and ask away.
Well I am not searching for the questions. I offered to answer it if you asked again. ask me or I am over it. The choice is yours.
My god... you aren't playing dumb....
Dummy the question is quoted in this thread by me from your last thread. I've asked you the same question at least 4 - 5 times in that previous thread. Cut the shit.
I see you still having trouble reading and pulling a...
Whatever. At this moment I can't even recall what video is in question, what fighters' names he mentioned, etc. My point is I would never say Floyd didn't duck somebody because he happened to call them out on some video. He could potentially pull out a Ring Magazine, just read off all the names on the top ten in his weight class and say he wants to fight all of them. This wouldn't mean it's true. I think Roy Jones Jr once said he wanted to fight Lennox Lewis but I don't think he was really telling the truth.
For any one else having problems with reading comprehension. Buk called out a list of fighters that Floyd "avoided". The video above shows Floyd calling these people out after his fights and later in the same video Merchant asks Floyd about some of those same fighters... Floyd responds by basically saying that they don't want to fight him. That's why he moved up and set up the Gatti fight. A fight that people go back to now as a bullshit move and he saying that it is his best option at the time. I'll wait to be called bias toward Floyd while I'll wait for proof to the contrary.
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For any one else having problems with read comprehension. Buk called out a list of fighters that Floyd "avoided". The video above shows Floyd calling these people out after his fights and later in the same video Merchant asks Floyd about some of those same fighters... Floyd responds by basically saying that they don't want to fight him. That's why he moved up and set up the Gatti fight. A fight that people go back to now as a bullshit move and he saying that is his best option at the time. I'll wait to be called bias toward Floyd while I'll wait for proof to the contrary.
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For anyone else that has reading miscomprehension. Who gives a fuck what Floyd Mayweather says on some damn video as if that proves anything?
Well disprove it. If Floyd isn't a good source. Post a better source...
Nobody can prove it. The only one that really knows anything about this is Floyd and his managers and his opponents and their managers. I can see this as proof that Floyd called out some guys but not that he didn't avoid them. Roy Jones had all kinds of videos where he was calling out all kinds of dudes but people still said he was ducking guys.
You can post something from the other guys that say something different from Floyd. Then okay, we can leave at "We don't know", but to put the blame on Floyd without something to back it up, just shows your bias. I will ride with what insight that I have until I have something else to change that opinion. If you don't have alternative information, what are you basing your opinion on?
Why bring Roy into this? There are fighters who talk out their ass and fighters who don't. Try to focus on the fighter in question and show something to counter what he is talking about.
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I rather go with the final results instead of all this he said she said stuff and looking up videos and stuff.. The final results and facts show that Floyd retired when 147 was popping and then he coincidentally unretired after most of the other guys had knocked each other off and the division was relatively dead. Even Floyd once said something like "All these others guys are fighting each other and losing while I'm undefeated." Of course he's undefeated if he's not mixing it up with the other guys. Shit, I'm undefeated as a professional fighter right now too.
In a recent interview, Roger Mayweather pitifully attempts to say Floyd fought the best at 147 because he fought Marquez and Hatton. That right there is very telling.
You still never asked a question. I am speculating on what you want to know. I hope this is it.For any one else having problems with reading comprehension. Buk called out a list of fighters that Floyd "avoided". The video above shows Floyd calling these people out after his fights and later in the same video Merchant asks Floyd about some of those same fighters... Floyd responds by basically saying that they don't want to fight him. That's why he moved up and set up the Gatti fight. A fight that people go back to now as a bullshit move and he saying that it is his best option at the time. I'll wait to be called bias toward Floyd while I'll wait for proof to the contrary.
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First of all. The only thing the video shows is pbf yapping on a camera again. Calling a boxer out on tv means little if you don't negotiate or negotiate the fight. Show me where actually committed himself to making the fight. Just because a boxing is shown on video asking for a fight. That doesn't mean he really wants the fight. I'm sorry but this is not evidence that he wanted to fight dude to me. But I give you credit. This is better than what PBF took the court with him as proof to all the video footage alleging that manny was on PED. LOL, really? PBF talking shit on tv is proof he wanted these fights, lol. You have as much proof that he wanted these fights than I do that he didn't. All I know is he didn't fight the dudes I named. He fought the likes of chop chop and brussels.
The bold says a lot. We can't go through the nuances of the history, we have to just look at the present. So why did you even get involved in this discussion about the past? We have been doing a good job of ignoring each other.
Wait so a fighter can't retire when he wants? He has to keep fighting until when exactly? If a fighter can't retire when he wants than you should be going at buk's head for even bringing up Kostya.
Hatton was actually calling Floyd out several times and talking big shit which is why they fought. Would it have been okay for Floyd to ignore Hatton and fight Clottey, Margarito or Cotto instead? If he didn't fight Hatton then we would be talking about Floyd ducking Hatton.
Marquez was number 2 P4P at the time and the obvious route to set up the mega fight with Pac, which you were against at the time. You wanted Floyd to fight Shane instead because Shane was considered the best WW by you until he fought Floyd...
If he is going for the best fights out there then what the fuck are we talking about? If he fought Cotto, Margarito or Clottey, shit even Paul Williams, today it would be looked at just like Ortiz is looked at so what are we talking about? Judah was one of the best at the time Floyd setup the fight with him. Judah lost and then Floyd finishing up that loose end was considered a bitch move...
Shane was the dude that everyone wanted to see, but now that Shane looks weak... Floyd gets no credit for that fight so what is the point?
Unless you are saying a fighter has to fight who you want when you want or they are ducking people, then I don't know what you are going on about.
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You still never asked a question. I am speculating on what you want to know. I hope this is it.
First of all. The only thing the video shows is pbf yapping on a camera again. Calling a boxer out on tv means little if you don't negotiate or negotiate the fight. Show me where actually committed himself to making the fight. Just because a boxing is shown on video asking for a fight. That doesn't mean he really wants the fight. I'm sorry but this is not evidence that he wanted to fight dude to me. But I give you credit. This is better than what PBF took the court with him as proof to all the video footage alleging that manny was on PED. LOL, really? PBF talking shit on tv is proof he wanted these fights, lol. You have as much proof that he wanted these fights than I do that he didn't. All I know is he didn't fight the dudes I named. He fought the likes of chop chop and brussels.
Again provide anything that shows Floyd was full of shit or your just yapping on a message board. If you know he is lying about this or you have anything that you are basing your opinion on... please provide it.
By the way, why the fuck are you acting like calling people out isn't commonly accepted way of up and coming fighters to get in the mix to setup fights. How the fuck is this the norm for every fighter, but Floyd? We all know after a fight each fighter is asked the same question and either they try to get a fight set up by calling someone out or they say they'll leave it up to their management. Stop playing dumb here. If you have no proof to say he is full of shit then what are you basing that opinion on?
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The bold says a lot. We can't go through the nuances of the history, we have to just look at the present. So why did you even get involved in this discussion about the past? We have been doing a good job of ignoring each other.
Wait so a fighter can't retire when he wants? He has to keep fighting until when exactly? If a fighter can't retire when he wants than you should be going at buk's head for even bringing up Kostya.
Hatton was actually calling Floyd out several times and talking big shit which is why they fought. Would it have been okay for Floyd to ignore Hatton and fight Clottey, Margarito or Cotto instead? If he didn't fight Hatton then we would be talking about Floyd ducking Hatton.
Marquez was number 2 P4P at the time and the obvious route to set up the mega fight with Pac, which you were against at the time. You wanted Floyd to fight Shane instead because Shane was considered the best WW by you until he fought Floyd...
If he is going for the best fights out there then what the fuck are we talking about? If he fought Cotto, Margarito or Clottey, shit even Paul Williams, today it would be looked at just like Ortiz is looked at so what are we talking about? Judah was one of the best at the time Floyd setup the fight with him. Judah lost and then Floyd finishing up that loose end was considered a bitch move...
Shane was the dude that everyone wanted to see, but now that Shane looks weak... Floyd gets no credit for that fight so what is the point?
Unless you are saying a fighter has to fight who you want when you want or they are ducking people, then I don't know what you are going on about.
If the debates stay like this then there's no need to ignore each other. Floyd gets credit for the Shane win in my book and I thought he did what he was supposed to do against Hatton. However, Floyd's win over Marquez was garbage. Knock out artist or not, he should have at least tko'd Marquez with all of the advantages he had over him. He just didn't step it up and get it done.
Floyd hasn't really done shit at 147 to be considered number one there but he is top 5. Regarding Floyd's retirement, of course he can retire whenever he wants and that seems exactly like what he did. He retired when the division got hot and came back when it was cold again. Why did he do this? That's a good question.
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How many times has Marquez been stopped by punchers or not and why is whether Floyd stopped him or not even relevant?
147?
He beat the guy that recognized as the best the weight before he lost to Baldomir, Judah. He beat the linear champion, Baldomir. In context it sounds ugly but is true... those were the best guys at 147 when he moved up. Remember 147 didn't really get hot until around the time he fought De La at 154. Cotto and all those other guys were still trying to get some where and make names for themselves. Shane was still trying to get himself straight after a bad run at 154 moving back down to 147. After Floyd's retirement and after Shane reclaimed his throne moving back down to welter... Floyd schooled the guy that you said was the best welterweight at the time.
Now here's the part were you and I don't know his motives for retiring. I think it is logical to conclude that a fighter coming off his biggest win and payday against De La Hoya along with destroying the biggest detractor, Hatton... might say fuck it I'm done which is what he did say. None of us liked it, but it is what it is and it might be different if he was still a young dude, which he wasn't.
Even though, apparently we can't take him at his word... but this bring us back to, what is in his track record that supports that he is full of shit and avoids these fights. He is an arrogant motherfucker which has pissed off so many people, but that doesn't mean he is shook or lies about wanting to fight people.
Also, why is everyone coming at Floyd about where other people rank him? He has nothing to do with the rankings listing him in the top 5 of the P4P, but I hear this all the time and it is goofy.
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Regarding rankings, I was talking about Floyd being top 5 in the welterweight division, not P4P. P4P is another story. His ranking there is debatable because of his inactivity.
I understand that Floyd is on video calling some guys out but this is not "evidence" that he didn't duck some guys. Maybe you find it credible but you certainly can't find it as evidence.
You can go so many places with all this speculation about who is lying and who is not. However the facts are:
Floyd has fought 2 times in the last 4 years.
He moved to welterweight 6 years ago in 2005 and has only fought 5 guys that were ranked at welterweight since.
He became inactive when the welterweight division was hot with Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito, Paul WIlliams, and even Kermit Cintron. During that time, Floyd opted to fight Judah that had been beaten by a bum, Baldomir, and then he fought the bum, Baldomir, and then decided to call it a day. I don't think this is acceptable from a guy that claims to be better than Sugar Ray Leonard.
Ultimately, once Cotto, Margarito, and Williams started losing, leaving the division, etc., Floyd coincidentally decides to reappear against a lightweight Marquez
He took off again and then came back against a downtrodden Mosley in a good win where they both looked vulnerable. Floyd made great moves as prize fighter as far as getting the money fights but his record in the welterweight division is below average. The way it's going, Mayweather could never be considered one of the best top ten welterweights ever much less one of the top 20 greatest all time.
As a fan, I just want to see Floyd more active and I think he robbed himself of his prime. I honestly think he is in for a rude awakening against Ortiz and the fans are going to be shocked. Floyd's inactivity is perceived by many as a ploy to maintain his undefeated record. If this is what he's trying to do, it's going to backfire on him like a motherfucker. How old is Floyd? 34, 35. Yep, just around the time when 95% of fighters under 200lbs start getting lit up. The fans are going to see that all this stuff about "defensive master" this and that doesn't mean shit when your body doesn't keep up with your mind.
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