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Ghostbusters: Leslie Jones Is (Understandably) Mad There's a New Reboot




Ghostbusters star Leslie Jones reacts to Jason Reitman's upcoming reboot, slamming the new film. Ivan Reitman's original Ghostbusters movie hit theaters in 1984, introducing the world to the team played by Bill Murray, Dan Aykroyd, Harold Ramis and Ernie Hudson. The film was successful enough to launch a full-blown media franchise, which has since grown to include the sequel, Ghostbusters II, as well as spinoff video games and animated TV shows. Then in 2016, director Paul Feig rebooted the Ghostbusters continuity with a new team portrayed by Melissa McCarthy, Kristen Wiig, Leslie Jones and Kate McKinnon.


However, the 2016 reboot was plagued all through its production and marketing by certain folks who weren't happy with a Ghostbusters movie starring all women. The sexist backlash to Ghostbusters caused a great deal of controversy leading up to the movie's release. While reviews of Feig's Ghostbusters were generally positive, sentiment of the average public seemed to skew more negative - though it's unclear how much of that was from casual viewers and how much was due to the backlash. Ultimately, no matter the reason, the Ghostbusters reboot wasn't a box office hit and Sony has since announced another reboot. This time, though, Ivan Reitman's son Jason Reitman will direct a new Ghostbusters movie that's a continuation from the original film. Now, one of the stars of Ghostbusters (2016) has responded to the new reboot/revival.


A vocal person on Twitter, Leslie Jones used the social media site to comment on the upcoming Ghostbusters movie, which already has a teaser that was unveiled shortly after the film was announced. In her tweet, Jones calls the new film "insulting" and likens the move to something U.S. President Donald Trump would do. Take a look at Jones' tweet below.
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It should be noted that Jones' facts in her tweet aren't entirely correct. While Reitman's new Ghostbusters is indeed a return to the franchise, and set within the same continuity as the origin movie, the new team won't be all men. Instead, the upcoming Ghostbusters movie will reportedly follow four teenagers in present day, two boys and two girls. However, all other details about the film, such as casting and character descriptions, are being kept under wraps so it remains to be seen if that's truly the plan for Reitman's movie.


Of course, it's understandable for Jones to be upset about the Ghostbustersreboot.

The 2016 film received a great deal of ire from certain sections of the internet simply because of the gender of the four leads - and plenty of that ire was directed at Jones, McKinnon, McCarthy and Wiig themselves.

While some may not agree with the way in which Jones has expressed her anger over the new Ghostbusters movie, it's clear she's upset by the annoucement of the upcoming movie.
After all, Reitman's Ghostbusters was announced little more than two and a half years after the 2016 film - a short turnaround in Hollywood for a new reboot/revival.

It remains to be seen if Reitman's Ghostbusters will be the blockbuster movie Sony clearly hoped Feig's reboot would be. But at this point one thing seems incredibly clear: The Ghostbusters brand has drawn a great deal of criticism for various reasons and it's unclear if the franchise will ever be able to recover, and win over all its detractors. However, the upcoming Ghostbusters movie will no doubt try.
 
It should be noted that Jones' facts in her tweet aren't entirely correct. While Reitman's new Ghostbusters is indeed a return to the franchise, and set within the same continuity as the origin movie, the new team won't be all men. Instead, the upcoming Ghostbusters movie will reportedly follow four teenagers in present day, two boys and two girls. However, all other details about the film, such as casting and character descriptions, are being kept under wraps so it remains to be seen if that's truly the plan for Reitman's movie.

@fonzerrillii

see THIS is what gets me annoyed...

look how they titled it...

its UNDERSTANDABLE she mad...

but in the SAME article they OPENLY admit

she wrong.

So how is UNDERSTANDABLE to be mad, when it is VERY PLAIN that they are no way cutting them out of ANYTHING.
 
'Ghostbusters': Why Ignore the All-Female Reboot?
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fizzled at the box office, Tuesday's news that the property is coming back quickly sparked conversations among fans about nostalgia, toxic fandom and legacy.

Jason Reitman, son of original Ghostbusters director Ivan Reitman, will helm a continuation of the series that ignores Paul Feig's female-led reboot, which starred Melissa McCarthy, Kristen Wiig, Leslie Jones and Kate McKinnon. The new film, sources say, will focus on four teens — two boys and two girls — and continue the story of 1984's Ghostbustersand the 1989 sequel.

Ignoring the 2016 film is a missed opportunity, Hannah Woodhead argues in a piece she wrote for the London-based film magazine Little White Lies titled "An Open Letter to Jason Reitman." She writes that while 2016's Ghostbusters wasn't an original idea, the all-female team pushed the franchise forward in an important way that may be lost in the new version.

“I think we suffer from this collective sense of nostalgia in film, where we're always looking to the past rather than the future,” she tells The Hollywood Reporter. “The past is safe. The past is easy.”

1984's Ghostbusters is widely considered a classic, and while the 1989 follow-up was less well-received, it does have its fans. Decades later, Feig's all-female 2016 Ghostbusters received a fresh 74 percent on Rotten Tomatoes, higher than Ghostbusters II. In addition to misogynistic trolling online, Jones faced racist attacks that caused her to leave Twitter for a period of time.

"I think it's a really entertaining movie that was doomed simply because it wasn't the film a certain very loud percentage of the audience wanted,” says Drew McWeeny, co-creator of the 80s All Over podcast and longtime film critic.

McWeeny understands criticisms of Reitman taking the reins for the new installment, but believes he is well-suited for the director's chair.

“While I get why some people might be annoyed, I met Jason Reitman for the first time in 1990, when he was still ‘just Ivan's kid,’ and at that point, he was movie-crazy and also knew his dad's work intimately," says McWeeny. "It makes sense that he'd want to do that, and I suspect he'll do a good job with it.”

Cracked contributor Chris Sutcliffe was a fan of Feig’s film and grew up with Ghostbusters. He's more concerned about the direction of the new film under Reitman.

“What frustrates me about this new film, and I'm very aware that we've had very little news, is how keen they are to distance themselves from the 2016 film," says Sutcliffe. "Not only will it feel like a victory to all the wrong people, but it just feels like a creative step backwards.”

After the announcement, Sutcliffe took to Twitter to pose that this new Ghostbusters is missing an opportunity to converge universes a la Sony's Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, which combined multiple spider-people into one story.

“[Spider-Verse] tells a new story with a diverse cast while still acknowledging the past,” Sutcliffe says. “You could easily take the ball from Feig's story to explore generation gaps, or fatherhood, or the cyclical nature of disasters. You could have four of the funniest actresses right now working with the retired originals. There are a hundred stories you could tell that wouldn't send the message to the little girls that liked the 2016 version that they've had their turn.”

Sutcliffe does acknowledge the possibilities of the new film, which as of yet does not have original stars such as Bill Murray and Dan Aykroyd confirmed to return, though it's a possibility.

“There is every chance that we're going to still get a great film,” says Sutcliffe. “Maybe it will further open up the franchise. Maybe they've been lying and I'll get the big crossover event all along.”

McWeeny is hopeful the new film is not actually writing off the 2016 reboot. He wonders if there’s a possibility that something larger is going on that could involve the leading ladies of Feig's film. “The first thing I heard when they set up shop to get this go-round of ghostbustin' off the ground, before Feig came onboard even, was that they had a master plan.”

He cites the comic book runs of Ghostbusters at IDW Publishing and how those “lean heavily on the idea that all of the Ghostbusters iterations are pocket universes, something that they came up with before Spider-Verse hit theaters.”

As Woodhead points out, an animated Ghostbusters movie Sony is developing separately could be that franchise's answer to Spider-Verse.

The trolling the Ghostbusters reboot film encountered continued something seen before, such as when actor John Boyega was the target of racist comments following the Star Wars: The Force Awakens trailer in 2014. And it would be seen again when Star Wars: The Last Jedi's Kelly Marie Tran felt forced to leave social media.

Woodhead thinks that the new Stars Wars films prove that movies like Ghostbusters can succeed, as long as they manage to blend nostalgia and newness in a smart way. And without acknowledging the 2016 movie, you're ignoring some of that nostalgia.

“The reason the new Star Wars films have worked is because they retained the spirit of the original films while really pushing forward, and found the right cast for the job,” Woodhead says. “Even then, we see the same misogyny and racism directed at the cast of those films as we saw directed at Feig's Ghostbusters. There's an element of gatekeeperism where fans of the original want things to be how they were in the good old days, which ties into this nostalgia, but it's 2019, and we're too far gone to make the same films over and over.”
Reitman's new Ghostbusters movie is expected for summer 2020.
 
Jason Reitman Is Directing 'Ghostbusters 3,' And It's All Your Fault

Jason Reitman, son of Ivan Reitman, will be directing and co-writing yet another Ghostbusters movie (and there's already an announcement teaser). Unlike the Paul Feig-directed reboot from 2016 (which ignited a firestorm of online controversy for... uh... starring four women as Ghostbusters), this will be set in the same world as the first two Ghostbusters movies, essentially acting as a long-threatened Ghostbusters 3. The goal is to shoot the as-of-yet-uncasted movie this summer and make it Sony's big summer 2020 offering. Little is known about the film's plot (or who among the original cast will return), but an educated guess would presume another legacy sequel which combines new, young heroes with the original cast acting as mentors or elder statesmen. So, yeah, Ghostbusters is going the route of Creed ($173 million on a $35m budget), The Force Awakens ($2 billion worldwide)and Halloween ($250m/$10m).

To say that I have mixed feelings about this is an understatement. On one hand, you're rewarding a white male director whose last five movies bombed (and of those, only the two starring Charlize Theron and penned by Diablo Cody received positive reviews) the keys to a hugely valuable franchise mostly because he's the son of the guy who directed those first two Ghostbusters movies. And yes, unintentional or not, you're essentially rewarding the specific demographics who reacted in the very worst way to the 2016 Ghostbusters reboot with the thing they claimed to want instead of the... horrors... all-female sci-fi comedy. And yet, we have only ourselves to blame. Studios aren't charities and they tend to want movies that attract moviegoers and make money.

To say that I have mixed feelings about this is an understatement. On one hand, you're rewarding a white male director whose last five movies bombed (and of those, only the two starring Charlize Theron and penned by Diablo Cody received positive reviews) the keys to a hugely valuable franchise mostly because he's the son of the guy who directed those first two Ghostbusters movies. And yes, unintentional or not, you're essentially rewarding the specific demographics who reacted in the very worst way to the 2016 Ghostbusters reboot with the thing they claimed to want instead of the... horrors... all-female sci-fi comedy. And yet, we have only ourselves to blame. Studios aren't charities and they tend to want movies that attract moviegoers and make money.

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Reitman's previous five movies (Young Adult, Labor Day, Men, Women and Children, Tully and The Front Runner) bombed at least partially because the folks who complain that Hollywood doesn't make original or non-IP movies for adults didn't see those in theaters in the first place. When you ignore (deep breath) Money Monster, Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk, Life, Only the Brave, Roman Israel, Esq. and All the Money in the World and only flock to Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle ($962 million)and Venom ($855m), well, here you go. When you don't show up for Tomorrowland ($209m on a $190m budget) and Queen of Katwe, you can't blame Walt Disney for overdosing on nostalgia-driven IP fare. As much as I might roll my eyes at the concept, a legacy sequel to Ghostbusters makes sense in 2019.

The old-school reboot is essentially dead. Most of them didn't really spawn successful franchises. Even Star Trek, Amazing Spider-Man and Man of Steel were... at best, short-lived successes. Moreover, the new-wave legacy sequel has mostly been financial (and critical) gold. The likes of Jurassic World ($1.6 billion),Creed ($173 million), Mad Max: Fury Road ($370m), Halloween ($250m)and The Force Awakens ($2b) have earned mostly positive reviews, general fan approval and relatively successful box office results. Sure, there's also failed revamps like Independence Day: Resurgence and Terminator Gensisys, but the full-on reboot route has yielded far more failures along the lines of Robin Hood, Robocop, A Nightmare on Elm Street and Total Recall. Kids don't care that a reboot is newbie-friendly while their parents want to see new movies set in the old continuity.


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Considering how many right choices, in terms of casting, concept and execution, that Sony made with Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle, and considering how halfway decent Men in Black International looks, it stands to reason that Sony is at least going to try to fashion a movie that doesn't entirely depend on moviegoers caring about Ghostbusters as an IP. Jumanji 2 ($404 million domestic/$962m worldwide) had a fun cast (Dwayne Johnson, Karen Gillan, Kevin Hart and Jack Black), a strong hook (four kids get zapped into a video game and get turned into exaggerated video game avatars) and worked as its own stand-alone adventure comedy. It was also a straight sequel so folks weren't obsessing over whether it lived up to the 1995 Robin Williams movie.

Jason Reitman and co-writer Gil Kenan (Monster House) will have to look at the IP not as a crutch but as an obstacle to overcome. If they can offer a splashy cast (Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle), at least some of the main cast returning to play (The Force Awakens) and an interesting hook (Jurassic World) that sounds interesting even to folks who don't necessarily need a Ghostbusters 3, then Sony might have an easy lay-up on their hands. That's also assuming that they don't repeat Paul Feig's mistake of spending $144 million on a reboot with little overseas value and (as it turned out) no playdate in China (Sony was unable to get around China's issues with movies featuring the paranormal), but I'm presuming that this will cost closer to Venom, Pixels and Jumanji ($90m-$110m) than Independence Day: Resurgence.

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Yes, if Bill Murray doesn't return, we could end up with another Independence Day: Resurgence situation (where everyone came back except the big star), but that's where the budget comes in. Independence Day: Resurgence made $370 million worldwide, which was terrible for a $165m-budgeted sequel to a movie that earned $821m back in 1996, but would have been just fine for a $90m sci-fi comedy. Say what you will about the Melissa McCarthy/Kristen Wiig/Leslie Jones/Kate McKinnon reboot (and I think the extended cut is about as good as the 1984 original and certainly better than the merely-okay Ghostbusters II), but the film's $126m domestic/$229m worldwide cume would have been okay and sequel-worthy on a frugal $90m budget. Don't make the Star Trek mistake of requiring MCU-worthy results.

The notion of Jason Reitman following up five straight adult-skewing flops with a sequel to his dad's classic 1980s comedy is every bit as "failing upward" cynical as it sounds. And the idea of giving the most disrespectful Ghostbusters fanboys, like the ones who temporarily drove Leslie Jones off of Twitter, even a little of what they want is (unintentionally?) odious. But Sony is making a smart play, especially if they keep the budget in check. A legacy sequel/passing-the-torch installment to Ghostbusters has the potential to break out like (relatively speaking) Jurassic World, Creed, The Force Awakens and Halloween. And Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle (as well as, presumably, Men in Black International) shows that Sony may know how to juice their old IP in a way that appeals to the agnostic.

Jason Reitman's Ghostbusters 3 (or whatever it ends up being called) will aim for a summer 2020 release date. I hate that this is happening. I hate that the misogynistic Ghostbusters trolls (and if that's not you, then this isn't about you) are getting what they want. I hate that audiences are punishing Hollywood for still trying to release movies like Only the Brave and Tully even as they complain that Hollywood is nothing but sequels and reboots. But I won't pretend that Reitman isn't a talented filmmaker who makes more good movies than bad ones and that Sony hasn't shown an understanding of how to revive a property like this in the recent past. It worked with Halloween, it worked with Star Wars, and it may work with Ghostbusters.

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@fonzerrillii

see THIS is what gets me annoyed...

look how they titled it...

its UNDERSTANDABLE she mad...

but in the SAME article they OPENLY admit

she wrong.

So how is UNDERSTANDABLE to be mad, when it is VERY PLAIN that they are no way cutting them out of ANYTHING.
would there be a reboot if her movie wasn't shitty... Don't be mad at the reboot be mad ya movie wasn't good so you forced the reboot
 
but aint even REALLY a reboot apparently

UNLESS that is just spin to avoid backlash...
it will be a trilogy but passing of the torch prob... If that girl shoot was actually good the third installment would of either connect worlds or it prob would've juss took a backseat and let the broads have their shine..it sucked and the originator had to step in to save name
 
I mean... They made a female version of a once popular franchise that was all male. It tanked,(because for all this girl power shit, it's been proven women don't support their own shit.) And they're taking it back to its roots. What's to be mad at??? No Ghostbusters fan considered that one to be legit. It's like that "other bond film" "Never say never again." Yes it's a Bond film, but it's not cannon and isn't considered to be legit by fans...
 
I'm not reading all of those articles and deep diving those vids, but I will say that the 2016 movie was way better than I thought it would be. I had my issues with parts of it, and I think they left the best part on the cutting room floor. But that said, the premise they set up and the actual foundation they laid down was solid. You could have rebuilt the franchise off of it, but it was too much for some folks that it was all women.

Whatever. Nostalgia goggles are a real thing, and people put those things on tight for Ghostbusters. Because as far as I'm concerned, the original cast only made one solid movie anyway. Ghostbusters 2 was a hot mess that took way too long to even get the gang back into business again. Mind you, I think part of that for me was that the Real Ghostbusters cartoon had been out for so long at that point, and we had weekly doses of proper Ghostbusting and storytelling that was way too good for Saturday morning fare. I didn't care about breaking the guys down to build them back up then, and I still don't now.

People can act like Ghostbusters is some precious commodity, but it was always a niche film that had more potential than it actually displayed. They were actually trying to move forward, but they got caught up flying the girl power banner and it backfired. And we'll probably all lose out because of it.
 
I mean... They made a female version of a once popular franchise that was all male. It tanked,(because for all this girl power shit, it's been proven women don't support their own shit.) And they're taking it back to its roots. What's to be mad at??? No Ghostbusters fan considered that one to be legit. It's like that "other bond film" "Never say never again." Yes it's a Bond film, but it's not cannon and isn't considered to be legit by fans...

Straight up that movie sucked. They are rebooting it to save face.

Anyways, #MeToo strikes again with a remake no one asking for in the first place with all women.

Where Bobby Brown at??? 2 Hot 2 hand 2 cold 2 hold



Are they gonna have someone like Arnold on Different Strokes apart of it now lol
 
But also the movie fucking STUNK and THE WOMEN DIDN'T SUPPORT IT.
so speak to your sister's about that shit.
and yes it's on them,
cause when 50 shades comes out and does 100m it ain't no dudes in there
its women groups and nobody is calling on men to support that shit either.

and its unique to THIS movie
cause the all female ocean's movie was on par with the all male version
your ghostbusters all female version WAS NOT

don't try to gain empathy saying this some shit trump would do.
smh
 
She think she's going to get support because she used Trump's name. The bottom fucking line is they toyed with an idea that they shouldn't have and now they going back to what people have been wanting for a long ass time.
 
Well that response won't get her any support. Besides that version of Ghostbusters sucked big time. I never finished watching it. :smh:
 
Sigh

2016 wasn't great, but it was good. I laughed. McKinnon was the highlight of the movie. Besides Hemesworth.

Don't lie, yall know it wasn't that bad.


But if you signed on to a project with the information that if it does certain numbers there will be more projects and contracts are signed where you get a credit or cut from merchandise or anything else, only to be told "yeah, that shit not happening" - I'd be mad too. There's no telling what money was on the table for the parties involved to sign those contracts to make that movie. And I'd think that Wiig and McCarthy would have had more money to loose from this than Leslie Jones.
 
Sigh

2016 wasn't great, but it was good. I laughed. McKinnon was the highlight of the movie. Besides Hemesworth.

Don't lie, yall know it wasn't that bad.


But if you signed on to a project with the information that if it does certain numbers there will be more projects and contracts are signed where you get a credit or cut from merchandise or anything else, only to be told "yeah, that shit not happening" - I'd be mad too. There's no telling what money was on the table for the parties involved to sign those contracts to make that movie. And I'd think that Wiig and McCarthy would have had more money to loose from this than Leslie Jones.

It was really really bad and i went in with an open mind like i said the female ocean's 8 wasn't bad it was actually on par with the male versions
this ghost busters was just not... it..

it wasn't even a hit. people don't even remember this even came out lol
 
It was really really bad and i went in with an open mind like i said the female ocean's 8 wasn't bad it was actually on par with the male versions
this ghost busters was just not... it..

it wasn't even a hit. people don't even remember this even came out lol

oh yall remember, lol. cause we talking about it! LOL

i'm not going to sit here and say it was great. it had some story telling issues, some cameos were unnecessary, and the whole soup thing...biggest problem is it could have used either another writer or someone to clean the script up period.

But i don't see this issue as an im mad cause its a missed opportunity. i wanted to do that movie!
Naw...this is about money. Trust me.
 
Fail

wackass movie we said long before that doodoo was made it would flop

at least i did
 
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