Oil hit 139 a barrel today ...oh shit....6-06-08

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Oil Prices Rocket Over $10 To a Record Above $138
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Sectors:Oil and GasBy Reuters | 06 Jun 2008 | 01:07 PM ET Font size: Oil jumped more than $10 to a record over $138 a barrel Friday, extending a two-day rally to more than $15 on the slumping U.S. dollar and rising tensions between Israel and Iran.


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Morgan Stanley forecast falling U.S. inventories could send U.S. crude to $150 a barrel by July 4 amid signs record high prices at the pump are already cutting into demand at the start summer vacation driving season in the world's top consumer.

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[GB@IB.1 137.4 9.86 (+7.73%)].

Oil has surged this year in part due to an influx of cash from investors seeking a hedge against the weaker dollar and inflation.

The greenback weakened against other currencies on data showing the U.S. economy lost jobs for the a fifth straight month and the unemployment rate shot up to its highest in more than three years.

The drop added to losses from Thursday when European Central Bank President Jean-Claude Trichet said a number of policymakers wanted higher interest rates -- possibly as soon as next month.



Further support came from remarks by Israel's transport minister that an attack on Iran's nuclear sites looked "unavoidable," the most explicit threat yet against Tehran from Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's government.

Worries of a potential disruption of the OPEC member's crude supply have helped support prices over the past year.

"We've had a huge historic rally on little fundamental input, other than the weakness of the dollar and the news this morning out of Israel that seems to have pushed some geopolitical risk premium back in the market," Jim Ritterbusch, president of Ritterbusch & Associates in Galena, Illinois.

Morgan Stanley forecast the diversion of Middle East oil shipments away from the United States to Asian markets could push U.S. crude to a $150 a barrel by the U.S. July 4th holiday.


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"Middle East oil exports are stable, but Asia is taking an unprecedented share," Morgan Stanley said in a report, adding U.S. inventories have dropped by 35 million barrels since March.

"Robust Asian non-OECD demand growth, coupled with a stagnant global oil supply backdrop appears to be pricing out Atlantic basin consumerers while at the same time driving Atlantic inventories to critically low levels." The report added to a string of upward price forecast revisions by analysts, with Goldman Sachs in May predicting prices could tip $200 a barrel within the next two years.


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A six-year rally in oil has sent prices up six-fold as demand from emerging economies such as China and India strain supplies.

High prices have started to eat away at global growth however, with some consumers such as the United States and the United Kingdom showing signs of lowering consumption.

Some Asian governments -- including India -- have decided to cut fuel subsidies, stirring concern rising prices could cut further into demand.

The International Energy Agency (IEA), an adviser to 27 industrialised countries, said it may cut issues its latest its 2008 demand growth projection further after having already more than halved it to 1.03 million barrels per day (bpd).



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NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- A surprisingly weak May jobs report and a big spike in oil prices were among the factors pummeling stocks Friday afternoon, reviving worries about slow growth paired with higher inflation.

With about 2-1/2 hours left in the session, the Dow Jones industrial average (INDU) lost 270 points, a decline of 2.1%. The broader Standard & Poor's 500 (SPX) index lost 1.8%, as did the Nasdaq composite (COMP).

The unemployment rate shot up to 5.5% in May from 5% in April, the government said, in the biggest jump since 1986. Economists surveyed by Briefing.com thought unemployment would rise marginally to 5.1%.

"The jump in the unemployment rate really caught people by surprise," said Stuart Hoffman, chief economist at PNC Financial Services Group. He said the report makes it clear that at least for so-called Main Street and the labor market, "we are in a recession, regardless of how we economists define it."

He was referring to the fact that with GDP still limping higher, the economy is technically not in a recession as defined by at least two consecutive quarters of negative growth.

However, with non-farm payrolls dropping for a fifth consecutive month, it feels to many people like its a recession, he said. Employers cut 49,000 from their payrolls, the report showed, versus forecasts for a decline of 60,000.

As rattling as the unemployment number was, the stock market was perhaps even more spooked by the spike in oil prices, said Bill Stone, chief investment strategist at PNC Wealth Management. Crude has jumped over $14 in two sessions, with prices flirting with $138 a barrel Friday afternoon.

"I think more than anything, it's the shock of oil prices being up this substantially two days in a row," Stone said.

"You're definitely seeing a bit of the fear trade today, with the dollar down, commodity prices up and bonds rallying," he said.

Dollar falls, oil spikes: The dollar continued its slide versus the euro on the weak jobs report and comments Thursday that the European Central Bank could potentially raise interest rates.

The dollar's decline contributed to a rally in dollar-traded commodity prices, with U.S. light crude oil for July delivery rising as high as $137.70 a barrel in electronic trading before scaling back to trade at just over $137 a barrel, a jump of more than $9.

Should the spike hold up through the close, it would be the biggest single-day price gain since record-keeping began in 1983 - taking out the previous session's record.

Gold and other commodities jumped too. COMEX gold for August delivery rose $23.50 to $899 an ounce.

Gas backs off record: The national average price for a gallon of regular unleaded gas fell to $3.986 from the previous day's record of $3.989, AAA reported. Gas prices had set new records for 28 of the previous 29 days.

Other markets: Treasury prices rallied, lowering the yield on the 10-year note to 3.92% from 4.05% late Thursday. Bond prices and yields move in opposite directions.

On the move: Stock declines were broad based, with 29 out of 30 Dow issues falling. The lone gainer was Chevron (CVX, Fortune 500), which rose on the oil spike. The Dow's other oil stock, Exxon Mobil (XOM, Fortune 500), was barely changed.

The Dow's financial components were the biggest decliners, including AIG (AIG, Fortune 500), American Express (AXP, Fortune 500), Citigroup (C, Fortune 500) and JP Morgan Chase (JPM, Fortune 500).

AIG was under pressure on reports that the Securities and Exchange Commission is looking into whether the insurer overstated the value of contracts connected to subprime markets, something AIG denies. Additionally, it was reported that federal prosecutors have asked the SEC for material related to the investigation.

Stocks spiked Thursday on a surprise dip in weekly jobless claims, stronger-than-expected May retail sales and a merger in the telecom sector. But the advance was short lived as Friday's barrage of discouraging economic news and spiking oil prices brought out the sellers.

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gene cisco

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These 'investors' are printing money. Every week they flip an excuse. Weak dollar, china is using too much, middle eastern problems. Greed is a muthafucka.
 

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Its gonna be the 1970s all over again. (For those who don't know it. That is a gas tank cap with a lock built into it. very popular circa 1970s.):lol:


I swear. I laugh at all those fools still driving around in huge SUVs. They think they looking cool but as the price of gas continues to go up more and more, the more foolish they will look from a ENVIRONMENTAL and a MONEY MANAGEMENT standpoint. One person is a huge SUV looks stupid. GM is damn near about to sell off Hummer.

:lol::lol::lol:
 

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Its gonna be the 1970s all over again. (For those who don't know it. That is a gas tank cap with a lock built into it. very popular circa 1970s.):lol:


I swear. I laugh at all those fools still driving around in huge SUVs. They think they looking cool but as the price of gas continues to go up more and more, the more foolish they will look from a ENVIRONMENTAL and a MONEY MANAGEMENT standpoint. One person is a huge SUV looks stupid. GM is damn near about to sell off Hummer.

:lol::lol::lol:

Dealerships are literally GIVING them away too.
 

regulus

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that ain't got nothing to do with it

that has everything to do with it. gas would be around 2 bucks otherwise. cars don't burn oil, they burn gasoline. several refineries have blown up over the past few years and others were damaged by katrina and never rebuilt. it's doesn't matter how much oil costs if you can't refine it. the end product always costs more that the ingredients. if you lower the costs of refining, the costs of gas goes down which is why we need to increase refining capacity to take advantage of economies of scale.
 

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that has everything to do with it. gas would be around 2 bucks otherwise. cars don't burn oil, they burn gasoline. several refineries have blown up over the past few years and others were damaged by katrina and never rebuilt. it's doesn't matter how much oil costs if you can't refine it. the end product always costs more that the ingredients. if you lower the costs of refining, the costs of gas goes down which is why we need to increase refining capacity to take advantage of economies of scale.

The problem is actually that the republicans have been putting alternative fuels research on hold for a long time. The much dissed president Carter said a long time ago that we need to get off of oil. He wanted to put serious federal dollars into solar energy research. REPUBLICANS didn't want to do shit but keep the oil companies happy.

PS: Imagine if more than 20 years ago they listened to President Carter. we'd all be driving electric vehicles already.


Well the shit is hitting the fan and now the Rockefeller's are pressing their shareholder leverage on Exxon to spend big money on Alternative fuel sources and renewable energies.

WHAT YOU ARE MISSING IS THAT WE HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE AND NOTHING WAS DONE. AND WE CAN THANK THE FUCKIN' REPUBLICANS FOR SCREWING SHIT UP.


PS: Imagine if more than 20 years ago, the Republicans could think long term like President Carter and that they listened to him. We'd probably be driving electric and hydrogen cars already.
 

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Got this an a email today.......:eek::eek::smh::smh::angry::angry:

Keep an Eye on your license plate.


A woman said her son found his license plate missing so he called the police to file a report.
They told him people were stealing the plates to get free gas.
Given the rise in gas prices, people have taken to stealing license plates, putting them on their car, then getting gas and running.
The gas station will have 'your' license plate # and you could be in trouble for 'pump and run.'
Check your car periodically to be sure you still have a plate. If you should find it missing, file a report immediately!!! Keep an eye on your license plate!
Make sure you always know it's there! When the license plate is reported as the 'drive off vehicle,' it's YOU they contact! Be aware!!!! Be aware of your license plates, most of us never look to see if the plates are there or not.
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regulus

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The problem is actually that the republicans have been putting alternative fuels research on hold for a long time. The much dissed president Carter said a long time ago that we need to get off of oil. He wanted to put serious federal dollars into solar energy research. REPUBLICANS didn't want to do shit but keep the oil companies happy.


Well the shit is hitting the fan and now the Rockefeller's are pressing their shareholder leverage on Exxon to spend big money on Alternative fuel sources and renewable energies.

WHAT YOU ARE MISSING IS THAT WE HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE AND NOTHING WAS DONE. AND WE CAN THANK THE FUCKIN' REPUBLICANS FOR SCREWING SHIT UP.

we could easily be in this situation with other fuels so you still haven't proven anything. most other technologies require gas to be at $5-7 a gallon before consumers would save money by switching. they've been able to make diesel out of coal since ww2 but it costs too much compared to oil. ethanol drive up the cost of food even higher. biodiesel would require a huge effort to collect the raw ingredients. oil sands show promise but it costs so much to release the oil that it costs more than oil produced the old fashioned way.
 

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Got this an a email today.......:eek::eek::smh::smh::angry::angry:

Keep an Eye on your license plate.


A woman said her son found his license plate missing so he called the police to file a report.
They told him people were stealing the plates to get free gas.
Given the rise in gas prices, people have taken to stealing license plates, putting them on their car, then getting gas and running.
The gas station will have 'your' license plate # and you could be in trouble for 'pump and run.'
Check your car periodically to be sure you still have a plate. If you should find it missing, file a report immediately!!! Keep an eye on your license plate!
Make sure you always know it's there! When the license plate is reported as the 'drive off vehicle,' it's YOU they contact! Be aware!!!! Be aware of your license plates, most of us never look to see if the plates are there or not.

good info. thanks
 

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we could easily be in this situation with other fuels so you still haven't proven anything. most other technologies require gas to be at $5-7 a gallon before consumers would save money by switching. they've been able to make diesel out of coal since ww2 but it costs too much compared to oil. ethanol drive up the cost of food even higher. biodiesel would require a huge effort to collect the raw ingredients. oil sands show promise but it costs so much to release the oil that it costs more than oil produced the old fashioned way.

I am aware of that. But 20+ years ago we could have started on the road to limitless energies like solar. we need big improvements in that area and its just starting to show benefits. We could have reached these levels YEARS AGO. Republicans and Oil interests slowed this shit down. The Saudis and other Arab nations are jumping on Solar. Germany as well. WTF is up with the US. enough time wasting.
 

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Don't whine. Profit from it. Buy options long on the short term, short the winter options.
 

Mt Airy Groove

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we could easily be in this situation with other fuels so you still haven't proven anything. most other technologies require gas to be at $5-7 a gallon before consumers would save money by switching. they've been able to make diesel out of coal since ww2 but it costs too much compared to oil. ethanol drive up the cost of food even higher. biodiesel would require a huge effort to collect the raw ingredients. oil sands show promise but it costs so much to release the oil that it costs more than oil produced the old fashioned way.

whats the drawback on fuel cells?
 

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Its gonna be the 1970s all over again. (For those who don't know it. That is a gas tank cap with a lock built into it. very popular circa 1970s.):lol:


I swear. I laugh at all those fools still driving around in huge SUVs. They think they looking cool but as the price of gas continues to go up more and more, the more foolish they will look from a ENVIRONMENTAL and a MONEY MANAGEMENT standpoint. One person is a huge SUV looks stupid. GM is damn near about to sell off Hummer.

:lol::lol::lol:


picked one up last weekend :hmm:
 

regulus

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I am aware of that. But 20+ years ago we could have started on the road to limitless energies like solar. we need big improvements in that area and its just starting to show benefits. We could have reached these levels YEARS AGO. Republicans and Oil interests slowed this shit down. The Saudis and other Arab nations are jumping on Solar. Germany as well. WTF is up with the US. enough time wasting.

where i live, i only need oil for my truck. we have dams that provide all of my other energy needs. i keep the AC on 24/7 plus my computer, fridge, and other vampire power suckers and my electric bill is always less than $60 a month. i think we actually sell energy to other areas. right now, oil makes sense. i don't drive much so i'm not hurting as bad as many people who've been wasteful and told for years to chill out with their consumption.
 

regulus

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whats the drawback on fuel cells?

new tech means new safety standards. even if it is a viable option you still have to make sure shit doesn't explode during a fender bender. gas is always better for long distance driving too.
 

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Its gonna be the 1970s all over again. (For those who don't know it. That is a gas tank cap with a lock built into it. very popular circa 1970s.):lol:


I swear. I laugh at all those fools still driving around in huge SUVs. They think they looking cool but as the price of gas continues to go up more and more, the more foolish they will look from a ENVIRONMENTAL and a MONEY MANAGEMENT standpoint. One person is a huge SUV looks stupid. GM is damn near about to sell off Hummer.

:lol::lol::lol:



LMAO !!!

Do you actually is gonna stop someone that wants your GAS!!!!

All you have to do is get a Channel Lock pliers!! apply the pliers to the lock, squeeze and twist!!

viola!!!

i got your gas while you sleep!!!
 

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The problem is actually that the republicans have been putting alternative fuels research on hold for a long time. The much dissed president Carter said a long time ago that we need to get off of oil. He wanted to put serious federal dollars into solar energy research. REPUBLICANS didn't want to do shit but keep the oil companies happy.
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Carter gets blasted, but 30 years ago..he was ahead of the curve on this foreign oil issue. If we had pursued alternative energy sources aggressively starting then, would be a completely different country...damn shame..
 

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Carter gets blasted, but 30 years ago..he was ahead of the curve on this foreign oil issue. If we had pursued alternative energy sources aggressively starting then, would be a completely different country...damn shame..

:yes::yes::yes:

Hell they should have listened to Al Gore too like 20 years ago as well. This is the first time in my life that I will never touch the Republican aisle of the voting machine. :angry:


PS: Just to clear shit up before people get stupid....I never voted for BUSH.
 

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Oil prices will go down when we stop buying oil.

No they will go down when the big oil companies are broken up.

when will these motherfuckers build some damn refineries?


Got nothing to do with the prices going up. The price is going up because the dollar is crashing and the unregulated speculation is driving the cost of per barrel oil.

Don't whine. Profit from it. Buy options long on the short term, short the winter options.

Thanks for showing the board an example of the mind of speculation that driving up the price.

Carter gets blasted, but 30 years ago..he was ahead of the curve on this foreign oil issue. If we had pursued alternative energy sources aggressively starting then, would be a completely different country...damn shame..

Real talk. And now people are running to find the new green in green technology.
 

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And Just when you thought Prices were going down
THEY RAISE EM BACK UP!!!

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lol@prices going down.
they will never be at the level thet they were at years ago (post 9/11)...or even close.
maybe a few cents lowered here and there.
but from here on...the prices will basically just be going up.

thats why threads like this shouldnt be a shocker...or even posted at all.
barrel prices will affect gas pump prices...and we all know wha the gas price is...go look outside. it also wil affect the retail economy, food...etc...go to your local store and find out.


most of this shit is already obvious to the mass majority.
 

mcguyver

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lol@prices going down.
they will never be at the level thet they were at years ago (post 9/11)...or even close.
maybe a few cents lowered here and there.
but from here on...the prices will basically just be going up.

thats why threads like this shouldnt be a shocker...or even posted at all.
barrel prices will affect gas pump prices...and we all know wha the gas price is...go look outside. it also wil affect the retail economy, food...etc...go to your local store and find out.


most of this shit is already obvious to the mass majority.


:yes:
 

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Carter gets blasted, but 30 years ago..he was ahead of the curve on this foreign oil issue. If we had pursued alternative energy sources aggressively starting then, would be a completely different country...damn shame..

i think it was jimmy carter that was tested to have a much higher than normal IQ.

he was lame & boring and rated as one of the worse presidents ever, but no one ever called him dumb.
 

regulus

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Got nothing to do with the prices going up. The price is going up because the dollar is crashing and the unregulated speculation is driving the cost of per barrel oil.

refining always plays a role. it's not a double whammy, it's a triple whammy
 
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