Oh jesus!!!!
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Do you have a link for this letter?...I dont doubt that these were their thoughts but if this letter actually exists it would be fascinating
How Missionaries Spread False Christianity to Africans As Instructed By King Leopold II of Belgium - Wandabiz
Here is the letter written by King Leopold II of Belgium to the missionaries traveling to the Congo in 1883 to spread Christianity: “Reverend Fathers…wandabiz.com
How Missionaries Spread False Christianity to Africans As Instructed By King Leopold II of Belgium
Here is the letter written by King Leopold II of Belgium to the missionaries traveling to the Congo in 1883 to spread Christianity:
“Reverend Fathers and Dear Compatriots; The task asked of you to accomplish is very delicate and demands much tact and diplomacy. Fathers, you are going to preach the Gospel, but your preaching must be inspired by first, the interest of the Belgium government state.
The main goal of your mission in the Congo is not to teach the Negro the knowledge of God, because they already know him. They talk and commit themselves to their God. They know that killing, stealing, adultery and blasphemy are not good.
Your role essentially will be to easily facilitate the task of the administrative and industrial personnel. That is to say, you will interpret the gospel in a way to protect and serve the interest of Belgium, in that part of the world. To do so you will see that our savages be not interested in the riches that their soil possesses in order that they not want them. Thus, they be not involved in murderous competition with us and dream to live a luxurious life.
Your knowledge of the scriptures will help us to use special texts that recommended the infidels to love poverty such as, “The Beatitudes”, “Blessed are the poor, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven”; and “It is impossible for the rich to enter the Kingdom of Heaven”.
You will do all that you can to cause the Negro to fear being rich in order that they may go to heaven. From time to time, keep them from rebelling and keep them in fear that you will use violence. You will teach them to endure anything, even when they are insulted or beaten by your compatriots (administrative).
You will teach them that whosoever uses vengeance is not a child of God. You will cause them to follow the example of the Saints who turned the other cheek. You will take them away from anything or any act that gives them the courage to confront us. I am alluding myself here to their magic, i.e., Ju-Ju, Voodoo.
They should not feel like abandoning their Ju-Ju, and you will do your best to take them away at the same time. Your action will be essentially on the younger people that they might not rebel. If the commandments of the Father is in conflict with what the parents teach, the child should learn to obey what the missionary teaches him because he is the father of his soul. We must force them into submission and obedience.
Dear compatriots, these are some of the principles you must apply. You will find many more in the book that will be given to you at the end of this session. Teach the Gospel to the Negroes in an African style, in order that they are kept submissive to the White colonist. They would not rebel against the injustice done to them by the colonist. Make them always meditate on “Blessed be those that who weep, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.” Convert the Africans always by means of the whip. Keep their wives in submission for nine months, so they can work for you graciously. Require from them an offering of recognition to you; goats, chickens, eggs, each time you visit their village. Avoid, by all means, the Blacks becoming rich. Cause them to sing each and every day say that it’s “Impossible for a rich man to enter Heaven”.
Make them pay tithes each Sunday for church. Utilize this money that is intended for the poor, for our own business investments. Institute a system of confession, which will make you good detectives in order to denounce/put down every Black which has a spirit of rebellion against the system.
Teach the Negroes that their statues are works of the devil, confiscate them and fill our museums with them. Teach the Negro to forget about their heroes in order to worship and give praise to ours. Don’t give a seat to a Negro when they come to see you, at the most just give him a cigarette.
Don’t invite him to break bread with you, even if he gave you a chicken every time you went to see him. Consider all blacks as little children, and require from them to refer to you as father.
My dear compatriots; if you apply to the letter all this, the interest of Belgium in the Congo will be protected for many centuries. I thank you.”
King Leopold II of Belgium.
This is how Leopold II and his lying bullshit missionaries manipulated innocent Africans and f*cked up the Congo just so they could become wealthy.
The bible doesn't describe Him as blond and blue eyed. It's unlikely he would be either in the part of the world he was born in and hid for the first part of his life. White folks have twisted and white washed religion as they have the rest of history.
If you want a discussion, search for one of the numerous ones we've had in the past.
If you want inspiration and support, state your issue. BGOL is full of wisdom and insight. Some spiritually based, some not. Lashing out in anger hoping to receive a glimmer of hope might get it for you, but it's unlikely.
If you just want to attack a Being who won't punch back, hoping to spar with His children, good luck with that. There are men and women of faith here, but most likely you'll just end up with a bunch of cosigners.
Regardless, posts like this usually have a catalyst, so whatever you're dealing with, I'll pray for you for peace and a resolution.
Sick of you atheist fucks preaching on BGOL. You're worse than missionaries who bother people by knocking on their doors.
The title is the link, just click the blue title of the article, can also cross reference the validity and veracity on Wiki and more.
Thread is becoming very masterbakerish... mad post with 98 percent from the thread creator
Jesus used algebra.. people know the op hates people that used algebra after highschool
According to Christianity, Jesus is God. They are one and the same, existing in in the Holy Trinity....being the Father, the Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit.
In the Quran he is not.. he is a prophet
Now you talkin'!!!! This post does have a catalyst. I recently spent four months in Africa split between 2 trips.... I have seen first hand what the christian influence from EUROPE, not Palestine.... some of the tales may have taken place in Palestine, but these are european concepts drawn up in Rome! Without christianity the Atl. slave trade would not likely have occurred ..... your bible condones and approves of slavery in multiple passages. I see how the missionaries and their teachings have eroded a once fiery spirit in the Africa and lulled them into a comfort that jesus will handle their affairs in due time. I see Black christians in the US who hug the white murderers of their family members because it's the christian thing to do they claim. There will be no advancement for this race with that jesus anchor around their ankles. It's concocted garbage, nothing more. christianity is an obsolete idea that would have seen it's demise decades, if not centuries ago had it not been artificially protected from criticism and question. It no longer enjoys that same level of protection and you will watch it die before your eyes as church attendance is falling rapidly with every passing year. You have the right too question my motives, and that's fine.... the pastor/girlfriend comment was likely beneath you but it's all good too. But at the end of the day, I payed my money and I've something to say. I'm normally long winded and would have given a clearer response but I'm exhausted.
And according to every scholar up to the year 325 AD he did not exist at all, as the name jesus, yehoshua is not to be found anywhere, in any book, manuscript, poem, song, tablet ..... pretty strange for a guy who supposedly turned the world upside down during his short life.
My fault...didn't notice it
Imagine what American life would be like, for better or worse if the man was concerned that we as a whole were not def dumb and blind?
a hundred yrs ago black Wall Street was destroyed... most people didnt know it exist until a few yrs ago.. that was less than a hundred yrs ago.. so imagine what kind of info was lost, destroyed, forgotten, hidden, or ignored from 1700 yrs ago
The bible doesn't condone brutality that was chattle slavery here and elsewhere. We were dehumanized to justify the treatment we received, and this still goes on today with police brutality and the treatment of immigrants (kids in cages etc)
There are several members here far more knowledgeable than I when it comes to biblical history. If you want a decent discussion most likely you will need to bump this thread next week. Too many folks are preoccupied with the election right now.
True...that is why I said Christianity. Muslims believe the Jesus existed, they just do not believe he was the Son of God (God on earth).
You're offering a preface to a question that I vehemently disagree with so I can't respond. I knew of Black Wall street decades ago. It was no secret. I'm not sure what you're basing that statement on. How are either of us able to define how many people in the US knew a particular fact?
I ain’t got beef with Black Jesus. I actually get him.
It’s his daddy that’s the real asshole.
It’s his daddy that’s the real asshole.
There are no non believers. There are those that believe, and those that try to suppress the believe. OP is the latter. You see their anger and malice for the other side. They don't really care. They just knock the other side. Speak for yo self nigga. I'm oh so blessed. Life is Good.
Life is good because you "speak fo yoself" I've fed dozens of kids in Agbogbloshie, Ghana for a month who were starving to death. Bought shoes, fruit and clothing for dirt destitute families in Masaka and Entebbe in Uganda cause of the after effects of eurochristian tyranny imposed on their wealth and resources. Just cause things are good for you doesn't mean things are good. I don't process life that way.
Never once did our people make an effort to come get us tho. We were dying over here for decades. Now they look down on us. A little envious of how we built something out of nothing. Come here and enjoy the shit we died for. I love my African brothers and sisters but I'm looking at them out the corner of my eyes. We still starving to death right here. Dying in the streets still. No need to travel my brother. So miss me with that shit.
I think the biggest misconception is that many people believe that God is all good when that’s impossible if God is the creator of everything. God even said that he was the alpha and omega. God has killed more people than Satan. Even within the Bible you can verify that.
He took Job’s entire family to prove a point to Satan. Which I still believe that Satan tricked God into doing that.
Nevertheless, a person’s faith is their own. While I am an atheist, I do read the Bible from time to time because I live in a Christian society and I like to see where people’s minds be at when it comes to faith.
People always said that God doesn’t make mistakes, but it’s very clear, when it comes to humans, he can be displeased and have a wrath of vengeance much greater than Satan could ever do. And he’s already done it before by flooding the earth. Next, it’s by fire. All that’s according to the Bible. Lol.
Now Black Jesus? That’s my dude right there
He took Job’s entire family to prove a point to Satan. Which I still believe that Satan tricked God into doing that.
Nevertheless, a person’s faith is their own. While I am an atheist, I do read the Bible from time to time because I live in a Christian society and I like to see where people’s minds be at when it comes to faith.
People always said that God doesn’t make mistakes, but it’s very clear, when it comes to humans, he can be displeased and have a wrath of vengeance much greater than Satan could ever do. And he’s already done it before by flooding the earth. Next, it’s by fire. All that’s according to the Bible. Lol.
Now Black Jesus? That’s my dude right there
I think the biggest misconception is that many people believe that God is all good when that’s impossible if God is the creator of everything. God even said that he was the alpha and omega. God has killed more people than Satan. Even within the Bible you can verify that.
He took Job’s entire family to prove a point to Satan. Which I still believe that Satan tricked God into doing that.
Nevertheless, a person’s faith is their own. While I am an atheist, I do read the Bible from time to time because I live in a Christian society and I like to see where people’s minds be at when it comes to faith.
People always said that God doesn’t make mistakes, but it’s very clear, when it comes to humans, he can be displeased and have a wrath of vengeance much greater than Satan could ever do. And he’s already done it before by flooding the earth. Next, it’s by fire. All that’s according to the Bible. Lol.
Now Black Jesus? That’s my dude right there
I'm an atheist too and a history nerd so the Bible is one of my favorite historical documents. It is interesting that the Jewish conception of Satan generally and the story of Job is completely different from mainstream Christianity's view. Satan isn't evil per se but more of an advocate for the alternative position. There are some good longer articles/books on it but this is a good succinct start: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2010/aug/02/book-job-religion-judaism
God's body count: https://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2010/04/drunk-with-blood-gods-killings-in-bible.html
Bible is comedy but this is my favorite absurd verse:
I Kings 2: 23-24: “From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking up the path, some small boys came out of the city and harassed him, chanting, ‘Go up, baldy! Go up, baldy!’ He turned around, looked at them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two female bears came out of the woods and mauled 42 of the children.”
I think the biggest misconception is that many people believe that God is all good when that’s impossible if God is the creator of everything. God even said that he was the alpha and omega. God has killed more people than Satan. Even within the Bible you can verify that.
He took Job’s entire family to prove a point to Satan. Which I still believe that Satan tricked God into doing that.
Nevertheless, a person’s faith is their own. While I am an atheist, I do read the Bible from time to time because I live in a Christian society and I like to see where people’s minds be at when it comes to faith.
People always said that God doesn’t make mistakes, but it’s very clear, when it comes to humans, he can be displeased and have a wrath of vengeance much greater than Satan could ever do. And he’s already done it before by flooding the earth. Next, it’s by fire. All that’s according to the Bible. Lol.
Now Black Jesus? That’s my dude right there
I think man really misses the bigger picture when you try to look at things from Gods point of view. Life is his to give and take. But is life the end to a being who always was and always will be? We have no idea what it really takes to create life, the universe, and beyond. The balance it requires? The science is impossible to even image. We can't duplicate it so we are in no place to even question it. How arrogantly he must see us. And yet some choose not to believe what's evident. Like this shit just happened. Take the Bible out of the equation.
Appreciate the links, and that versus is hilarious.
God’s body count is my favorite. This good god folk be talking about be making Michael Myers and Jason look like Sesema Street characters.
And you’re right about Satan as well. I’ve saw him more as a rebel than evil.
Appreciate the links, and that versus is hilarious.
God’s body count is my favorite. This good god folk be talking about be making Michael Myers and Jason look like Sesema Street characters.
And you’re right about Satan as well. I’ve saw him more as a rebel than evil.
There are so many versus like that but that one is particularly hilarious to listen to believers try to explain.
Exactly. Man, can’t use the morals that god gives to look at the world from God’s perspective. It’s an immediate contradiction and why he told Adam and Eve not to eat from the tree of knowledge. Man was never suppose to know the inner workings of God because it wouldnt be understood. Yet, here we are. Free will and all.
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