OH BOY! Beyonce VS Kelis!!.....no, like really, Kelis is accusing Bey of sampling her without her permission.

If you have a lawyer go over your deal no, no you won’t get jacked. If your lawyer is garbage and over looks shit that’s on them. So I’m not sure what the hell you think can happen if there’s an agreement that’s violated by the label. You have every right to sue the fuck out of them.
Stop siding with the uber rich. She was a teenager who trusted management she was also in a intimate relationship with. Same management gave her a verbal agreement and provided her with attorney and agent to "review" her deal.
 
However, buried within the document was language that granted Marvel broad discretion to dramatically lower payments, language Grayson and others who spoke to THR say is misleading given that the $25,000 is listed prominently in the paperwork.

This is the same shady thing that companies pull in lots of contracts, take maintenance contracts for your car for example on the front page it will say your engine, transmission, drivetrain are covered but as you flip through the pages the company starts breaking down every part of the engine/transmission saying this part is covered while this part that connects to it isn't or if this or that happens then this isn't covered or not fully covered.
 
Stop siding with the uber rich. She was a teenager who trusted management she was also in a intimate relationship with. Same management gave her a verbal agreement and provided her with attorney and agent to "review" her deal.
Of course but people don't explain that part of it.
 
I'm quite sure know Pharrell's history Kelis has records that were sampled and they didn't bother contacting the Artist because they didn't have ownership also. Unless she can say this has never happened I don't wanna hear it.
 


She's playing herself. She's really on here saying that the song and the sample was done just to get back at HER.

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She's playing herself. She's really on here saying that the song and the sample was done just to get back at HER.

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Man that woman has the lost her mind :smh:… After reading some of the posts on this subject she do not have rights for the sample piece so she is just whistling in the wind at this point
 
I wish people would stop having this attutude. in the entertainment industry more people than not get ganked...which would mean theres more happening than simply just not paying attention to contract details.
But in her case, it was simply her not paying attention to details. She tells the story of how she didn't read her contract or allow a lawyer to look it over. That's on her.

She didn't write or produce and she is expecting publishing?? Stop it. Regarding composition and sound recording copyrights and publishing, she didn't pay for anything nor did she write anything.

She has been able to make a good life for herself from performances and her later albums in which she contributed artistically.

Ironically, even after the first two albums AFTER she discovered she wasn't getting publishing, she still went ahead and recorded a third album which had the single Milkshake. Which was 100% written and produced by the Neptune's. But, I guess she wants publishing from that as well.
 
She wanted the courtesy of Beyoncé asking Kelis' permission to use a song that legally and musically she only contributed her voice to

She didn't write, nor produce.......

That's Beyoncé.

Why would she call you Kelis? You've state's repeatedly that you didn't like her in the media and shit...


Beyoncé can be petty too
 
Most people screwed by the record label didn’t read their shitty contract. These are facts

There is a healthy amount of fuckery in the music business... and by fuckery I mean straight up no holds barred middle finger in your face fuckery.

On another note, Beyonce has borrowed from struggling artists before (couldn't resist) and just breaded them out to keep'm quiet. Kelis just wants her bread.
 
What Kelis is doing is a fine example of what I call cunt hole nonsense. The checks from Nas will go on for another 6 years or so until the son she has will be an adult. She better find herself another hit song or learn to act.
 
Stop siding with the uber rich. She was a teenager who trusted management she was also in a intimate relationship with. Same management gave her a verbal agreement and provided her with attorney and agent to "review" her deal.
siding with the Uber rich? She admitted she didn’t read her contract. LOL at trusting her management in the music snake business. Stop siding with a dumb bitch that said she needed 20k a month from Nas for a baby stroller. FOH
 
I call bullshit. Kelis was never was clear about if she owned the damn copyright. If not. END OF CONVERSATION.
kelis is saying a lot of shit but never addressed the true issue. Either she owns the copyright or not. If not, leave Beyonce out of it and address your beef with the copyright owner. If pharrell fucked you out of your rights, sue him or leave it be. Stopy talking loud but not saying nothing. and i don't even listen to beyonce.
 
Nas had to pay Kelis $51k a month $350k in spousal support. Man if this chick don’t sit down somewhere!
 
she also said at the time, adding that she was “blatantly lied to and tricked” by “the Neptunes and their management and their lawyers and all that stuff.”



So in other words she didn't read the contract, you cant be tricked if its all on the contract.
 

I call bullshit. Kelis was never was clear about if she owned the damn copyright. If not. END OF CONVERSATION.
kelis is saying a lot of shit but never addressed the true issue. Either she owns the copyright or not. If not, leave Beyonce out of it and address your beef with the copyright owner. If pharrell fucked you out of your rights, sue him or leave it be. Stopy talking loud but not saying nothing. and i don't even listen to beyonce.

Her beef is clearly with Pharrell but she starts all 3 social media post with Beyonce's name coming out of her mouth and then mention Pharrell after. If the song didn't belong to her and she knows the song doesn't belong to her then she is just attention whoring
 
siding with the Uber rich? She admitted she didn’t read her contract. LOL at trusting her management in the music snake business. Stop siding with a dumb bitch that said she needed 20k a month from Nas for a baby stroller. FOH


she also said at the time, adding that she was “blatantly lied to and tricked” by “the Neptunes and their management and their lawyers and all that stuff.”



So in other words she didn't read the contract, you cant be tricked if its all on the contract.
ya'll keep skipping over the part where she trusted someone who she thought was a friend and lover. Its easy to say in hindsight or outside that fog "oh you should have blah blah blah" Fucking Taylor Swift is rerecording her music as we speak and her FATHER was involved in the original deal and she's talking about how scooter braun, who she thought was a friend, fucked her over. And she wasn't even fucking him and around the same age kelis was when the deals were done..

And make no mistake Swift IS miss america...fuck whoever got the crown that bitch is miss america every year she is walking white privilege ...she's an aryan wetdream and if they fucked HER over.....they wouldn't hesitate to slit a black or brown womans throat in public!

its NOT as simple as you all are making it out to be.
 
This is the same shady thing that companies pull in lots of contracts, take maintenance contracts for your car for example on the front page it will say your engine, transmission, drivetrain are covered but as you flip through the pages the company starts breaking down every part of the engine/transmission saying this part is covered while this part that connects to it isn't or if this or that happens then this isn't covered or not fully covered.

As the saying goes.. The devil is in the details and if you don't have someone read over the contract and give you full understanding of what you are signing (or if you do and they failed at their jobs) who's fault is that? The person who gave you the contract, the signee, or the lawyer?
 
ya'll keep skipping over the part where she trusted someone who she thought was a friend and lover. Its easy to say in hindsight or outside that fog "oh you should have blah blah blah" Fucking Taylor Swift is rerecording her music as we speak and her FATHER was involved in the original deal and she's talking about how scooter braun, who she thought was a friend, fucked her over. And she wasn't even fucking him and around the same age kelis was when the deals were done..

its NOT as simple as you all are making it out to be.
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As the saying goes.. The devil is in the details and if you don't have someone read over the contract and give you full understanding of what you are signing (or if you do and they failed at their jobs) who's fault is that? The person who gave you the contract, the signee, or the lawyer?


all thats easy to say when its not you in the moment tho...

you know what social engineering is?
 
all thats easy to say when its not you in the moment tho...

you know what social engineering is?
Of course it's easy not being the person in the situation but that doesn't take away from the truth.

It's not like these situations haven't happened over a thousand times. We hear about people selling their publishing and start crrying about so and so having their publishing (or not getting publishing credit to begin with). That means people when signing record deals and so forth should be extra careful about what they're signing.
 
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Of course it's easy not being the person in the situation but that doesn't take away from the truth.

It's not like these situations haven't happened over a thousand times. We hear about people selling their publishing and start crrying about so and so having their pushing (not getting publishing credit to begin with). That means people when signing record deals and so forth should be extra careful about what they're signing.

I get that but you have to factor in the allure of the industry. A person is a fingersnap close to getting their dream of being a signed artist in what ever entertainment field your getting in so thats leveraged against you BUT not only that your dealing with FOMO and thats a VERY POWERFUL AND REAL THING. Throw in there poor or desperate circumstances + someone not just saying but doing things to give you the impression that theyre your friend/ally PLUS lawyers who may be working with the label/studio backdoor (conflict of interest) or just plain incompetent.



chappelle was 28 when signed his deal...its not that simple.
 
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