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is there a game that allows you to buy stock options and excercise them? even investopedia lets you buy options but i cant seem to find an option to buy an option then excercise the option.....instead of just selling the option.

anyone know?
 
is there a game that allows you to buy stock options and excercise them? even investopedia lets you buy options but i cant seem to find an option to buy an option then excercise the option.....instead of just selling the option.

anyone know?

What are stock options? I know I can look it up quickly but it helps to get it in layman's terms.
 
What are stock options? I know I can look it up quickly but it helps to get it in layman's terms.

each contract that gives you the option (not the obligation) to buy 100 shares of the underlying stock. you can buy more than 1 option, so 2 stock options give you the right to buy $200 shares if you choose to.

-you spend less money on options than buying the underlying stock.

-your losses are capped at the premium (how much you spend to buy the option)

-the option can expire if you dont exercise it.

-you can buy call options, which give you the right to buy stock at a specified price BEFORE a specified date. (like a stock option that says you can buy 100 shares of apple at $450 per share before October 2012. if we get to october, and apple is trading at $420 then the option is worthless becuase if you buy 100 shares of apple at $450 a share, and the stock is trading at $420 a share, you are fucked :smh:)
if you buy a call option you are waiting for the market to rally and go up, so that you can excercise your option(s) at the lower price. then you can turn around and sell the stock or just hold it. once you exercise the option and buy the 100 shares of stock, you do what you want.

you can buy put options, which give you the right to sell stock at a specified price before a specified date. if you buy a put option (the right to sell) you basically want the stock to go down in price, so that you can turn around and buy the stock at a lower price and then excercise the put option (and sell at the strike price, which is the price agreed upon on the contract). its like you sell the stock before you even buy it. instead of buy low, sell high, you can have the right to sell high and then buy low later. this is if you think the stock is about to tank, like amazon did yesterday :lol:

but, you can also buy and sell the options themselves :lol: since its a contract, you can sell the contract before it expires.

it gets more complicated when you buy options in pairs. you can buy calls, puts, calls and puts, sell calls and buy puts, sell puts buy calls. you can also buy stock then hedge your position with options to either make money or to protect your stock position.

lets use google as an example (GOOG) and this is for example purpose only.
google is trading at 584 a share. lets say you bought 10 shares of google when the price was $500 a share.
now, tomorrow the job numbers are coming out. you know from previous history that with the job numbers google takes a dip when the numbers are bad or negative or below what analysts expect. you dont want to sell the stock because you want to hold it long term. so you buy a put option, meaning you have the right to sell google at $584, and tomorrow when the stock takes a dip to, say $550, you can
1) buy google at 550 then turn around and sell it for $584 (because you have the option contract), or
2) you can sell the option, and make money from the premium

you spend less money to have alot of leverage and the gain is unlimited. but the option expires, so you need the stock to go where you want, either up or down enough for you to make a profit once you deduct what you paid for the option.

another option is to short the stock, then buy a call option as protection in case the stock goes up.

the strategy is unlimited and people are making thousands just buying and selling options.
 
each contract that gives you the option (not the obligation) to buy 100 shares of the underlying stock. you can buy more than 1 option, so 2 stock options give you the right to buy $200 shares if you choose to.

-you spend less money on options than buying the underlying stock.

-your losses are capped at the premium (how much you spend to buy the option)

-the option can expire if you dont exercise it.

-you can buy call options, which give you the right to buy stock at a specified price BEFORE a specified date. (like a stock option that says you can buy 100 shares of apple at $450 per share before October 2012. if we get to october, and apple is trading at $420 then the option is worthless becuase if you buy 100 shares of apple at $450 a share, and the stock is trading at $420 a share, you are fucked :smh:)
if you buy a call option you are waiting for the market to rally and go up, so that you can excercise your option(s) at the lower price. then you can turn around and sell the stock or just hold it. once you exercise the option and buy the 100 shares of stock, you do what you want.

you can buy put options, which give you the right to sell stock at a specified price before a specified date. if you buy a put option (the right to sell) you basically want the stock to go down in price, so that you can turn around and buy the stock at a lower price and then excercise the put option (and sell at the strike price, which is the price agreed upon on the contract). its like you sell the stock before you even buy it. instead of buy low, sell high, you can have the right to sell high and then buy low later. this is if you think the stock is about to tank, like amazon did yesterday :lol:

but, you can also buy and sell the options themselves :lol: since its a contract, you can sell the contract before it expires.

it gets more complicated when you buy options in pairs. you can buy calls, puts, calls and puts, sell calls and buy puts, sell puts buy calls. you can also buy stock then hedge your position with options to either make money or to protect your stock position.

lets use google as an example (GOOG) and this is for example purpose only.
google is trading at 584 a share. lets say you bought 10 shares of google when the price was $500 a share.
now, tomorrow the job numbers are coming out. you know from previous history that with the job numbers google takes a dip when the numbers are bad or negative or below what analysts expect. you dont want to sell the stock because you want to hold it long term. so you buy a put option, meaning you have the right to sell google at $584, and tomorrow when the stock takes a dip to, say $550, you can
1) buy google at 550 then turn around and sell it for $584 (because you have the option contract), or
2) you can sell the option, and make money from the premium

you spend less money to have alot of leverage and the gain is unlimited. but the option expires, so you need the stock to go where you want, either up or down enough for you to make a profit once you deduct what you paid for the option.

another option is to short the stock, then buy a call option as protection in case the stock goes up.

the strategy is unlimited and people are making thousands just buying and selling options.

Thanks...that was an education and a half. Going to read it several more time and do some research and studing. I just started and just going by the analyst is saying and not doing made. First two days of February made a G. January was pretty damn good. I know I need to learn a lot more after just reading above. Thanks once again.

:yes::yes::yes:
 
Thanks...that was an education and a half. Going to read it several more time and do some research and studing. I just started and just going by the analyst is saying and not doing made. First two days of February made a G. January was pretty damn good. I know I need to learn a lot more after just reading above. Thanks once again.

:yes::yes::yes:

i dont even know everything there is to know about options :lol: but i know that people are making a ton of money selling options and buying options.
on a day like today and tomorrow i like to use them for temporary protection in case im holding a stock position but think that the next two days the stock will tank becuase of what the feds are doing or because the job numbers might be bad

try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSFFLDA_96U

i think they have a part 2 somewhere
 
someone mentioned a company that dealt with lcd screens and such. i cant remember the name and searching the thread yields no results.

does anyone remember a mention of a company that dealt with LCD screens or touch screens? i was eyeing the stock back then and lost track of where i saved that info
 
someone mentioned MNTA a couple weeks ago. i will be looking for entry next week as i think it will take the next leg up from it's drop. hoping for 20% profit. i also noted that some are asking about trade fee's. a rule of thumb is if you are worrying about those fee's you shouldnt be trading with real money. the difference is very small.
 
im fukking with options now, I had a call on bidu that flipped 90% it was crazy because the stock only moved liek 2% down then like 1.8 back up and that bitch ran to a 90% return, I only had a few hundread in since i am/was getting my feet wet but chit I'll take that all day.

my next one (im still in) is a gmcr put after they jumped 25% i expected it to drop but that run attracted so many new buyers that volume was almost double and the stock price barely moved .20 cent << that tells you there were just as many buyers as sellers that day.

Anyway I've held it since its a march option and now its up 20% Ill see how next week goes and see if I can get that $$$.

ahh I did a day trade on a DMND option the day thier chit dropped from firing the ceo/cfo, I got 30 @ .15 per contract, sold a few hours later @ .20, 33%.

Since I watch my %'s so far I'm banked one @ 90%, one @ 33% and have that other one still in the game up 20%.

Like I said I fukks with the options!
 
In the virtual game I bought mnta but sold at a loss days later. I guess I went in early. But yeah ive been watching them for over two weeks now but I like mnta long I just havent figured out theie bottom
 
1000. gonna do a little DD ovver weekend on it. its 1 of 2 stocks im watching for next week. i normally play the pinks but MNTA does look like a decent flip.

On this one I would hav elooked for a options play on the 9th when they reported earning and dropped like a brick, the call options would have dipped for a solid entry and the next days move would have made it a HOT flip I just need to learn which options move best right now im honestly guessing at it. I watch for the most signifiganct moves and play that day hoping that the stock will correct and I can get some $$$
 
@greygoose or any other member really,

Whats your feeling on apple? Do you expect it to keep going up? well into and a little bit after the IPAD 3 release?
 
im fukking with options now, I had a call on bidu that flipped 90% it was crazy because the stock only moved liek 2% down then like 1.8 back up and that bitch ran to a 90% return, I only had a few hundread in since i am/was getting my feet wet but chit I'll take that all day.

my next one (im still in) is a gmcr put after they jumped 25% i expected it to drop but that run attracted so many new buyers that volume was almost double and the stock price barely moved .20 cent << that tells you there were just as many buyers as sellers that day.

Anyway I've held it since its a march option and now its up 20% Ill see how next week goes and see if I can get that $$$.

ahh I did a day trade on a DMND option the day thier chit dropped from firing the ceo/cfo, I got 30 @ .15 per contract, sold a few hours later @ .20, 33%.

Since I watch my %'s so far I'm banked one @ 90%, one @ 33% and have that other one still in the game up 20%.

Like I said I fukks with the options!



How did you learn to trade options?
 
any of u guys do your federal taxes? i normally do them myself but i am fuckin lost when i add capital gains/losses to the equation.. shit
 
I thought apple was fat but I every time I turn around I see someone with a pad and white headphones. Im buying even at this price

I also like expensive ass google

I need to learn the options game. I like to hedge with it never traded just options without a long position
 
How did you learn to trade options?
I had a partner in it pretty heavy turned me onto a couple books but this chit im on now is just taking chances and banking on typical stock buyers psychology. I run the basic principles that the normal investor does I buy low, and sale high Its just in options those swings can happen quick.

I use google finace and yahoo finance on research, look for option chain and do some virtual stuff to test yourself before you jump in.

I found 2 more maybes for me it was with Level 3, small move on thier price dropped a option or two quite a bit liek 40% if I remember right. The thing about big options moves from small stock moves means a small move back will swing the options hard and fast, and me I'm just there to get my cash lol

the other was on ummmm chit I cant think of them now but that level3 looked good to me so ill play that and the FSLR un hopes that the standard investor will flock to fslr based on the dip. And that level3will just bump up 2% or so and im good then
 
I wanted to short apple at 490 last week. I dont have the guts. But id rather buy put option than short. Apple has a mind of its own, and I dont have the guts tow short apple.
I dont think anyone knows when to short apple. if apple revenue and earnings are lower than what analysts estimate it will be a bloodbath.


Ill see what others say, IMO if apple continues to meet/beat estimates its gonna go north of 550, especially if those damn new ipads fly off the shelves.

I dont think anyone can definitively tell you to buy now.
 
Im going to get my options game on. Apple cant keep running forever

Apple at $500. Whats the next play? Is it too late to get in or is it time to start shorting? Thoughts?

I wanted to short apple at 490 last week. I dont have the guts. But id rather buy put option than short. Apple has a mind of its own, and I dont have the guts tow short apple.
I dont think anyone knows when to short apple. if apple revenue and earnings are lower than what analysts estimate it will be a bloodbath.


Ill see what others say, IMO if apple continues to meet/beat estimates its gonna go north of 550, especially if those damn new ipads fly off the shelves.

I dont think anyone can definitively tell you to buy now.

Exactly, At some point unless apple has something else under their skirt besides the IPAD3(which i dont think will be as popular as 1 or 2) or the iphone 5, i get the impression they may break into 600, but once more unless their is some new product innovation after this year they will start to go down...
 
yelp IPO coming up, faster than you can hit the "like" button :lol:
$100 million IPO, about $12-14 a share, 7.15Million shares
2010 Net Loss: $9.6 million
2011 Net Loss: $16.7 million

i dont even know how they make money, but its clear they're losing money :smh:
 
if apple really wanted to make money, they would say "fuck you" to china and rename the ipad line altogether. all they need to do is put out a news story about how the ipad was steve job's project from day 1. with the passing of steve jobs, they renameall the ipads to something else in honor of steve jobs. instead of ipad, they can call it iSteve or something. they make all ipads silver and white, and put default wallpaper of steve jobs.

boom. sales up.

this is in response to that lawsuit that they lost where they cant sell ipads in china because of the name. solution? change the name.....they can do it and even sell more if they name the ipad the iSteve or something in honor of steve jobs. boom! they should hire me with that 100 billion in cash they have
 
Market is a beast all unto itself and at the same time wishy washy like a female. :rolleyes:

Biotech stocks are the shit if you get the right ones. They can fall at the drop of the dime if a little bad news come out. On the flip side, the will shoot to the moon if positive info is released.

I have literally made over 5k the first two months of this year on Biotech positions. In the last 3 days right around 1.8k alone.

I mentioned in another post about two Hep-C companies are rumored to be bought. With one of them I was at $1100 in the green with 500 shares. Some news came out about another company having very positive trials and less than two weeks I was $77 in the red. Why didn't I sell? Well, they still have the potential to be bought. Moving forward, the same company that had the positive trials recently had some set backs and would you know that $77 in the red was back at $1200 in the green in 3 days for me. That is how Biotechs go in the market. I would check them out if I was any of you.

If you want the positions I currently hold let me know.
 
Hit me with that info.
Do you know where I can get info about which companies are waiting for FDA approvals?
There are a few paid services that give investors breaking news instantly but I'm not trying to pay right now until I'm playing with major money.

I may need to date someone who works at the fda :lol:
 
Hit me with that info.
Do you know where I can get info about which companies are waiting for FDA approvals?
There are a few paid services that give investors breaking news instantly but I'm not trying to pay right now until I'm playing with major money.

I may need to date someone who works at the fda :lol:

I'm on my phone right now but when I get on my pc I will fill you in.
 
Below are my positions in BioTech stocks. Do some research on them. All have great upside potential. The information below is after yesterday trading.

Shares Symbol Price Chg % Chg
500 ACHN 10.50 +0.18 +1.74 - buy out potential
100 ARIA 15.20 +0.68 +4.68
200 ARQL 7.50 +0.24 +3.31
60 GILD 45.15 +0.62 +1.39
500 IDIX 12.29 +0.04 +0.33 - buy out potential
80 VVUS 18.73 +8.18 +77.54
500 THLD 5.91 -0.12 -1.99
100 AMLN 17.89 +0.46 +2.64
300 VICL 3.46 +0.16 +4.85
 
can anyone help give me insight on why SNMX (Senomyx) is trading higher today? i see no news that would give me insight on why its shares are trading higher. volume is higher too, close to 100% increase in volume. im shaking my head, looking all over the internet, trying to find out why the sudden interest?


someone who may have access to the secrets, shed some light on this for me
 
dont know if any of u play the pinks but penny stocks are having the best money flow since like 2006 or so.. about to get going for this year with a G next week
 
Going to buy some Starbucks...... :yes::yes::yes:



They are doing very well targeting the emerging markets (BRIC).

They just signed an agreement with Tata Beverages in India.

I like that because Indians trust and respect Tata in everything that they do.

There is also a base of returning Indians who are already familiar with the brand and what it represents.

Check out the stock and it's performance over the last 3 yrs during the recession.


SBUX

Hopefully by the end of the yr I'm like this:

:dance::dance::dance:
 
Great thread.

I'm currently doing my research now because I know very little about the stock game. This thread has really helped my learning curve.

Let's keep it going.
 
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn

i just realized my tdameritrade account is not set up for options, so now im 2 days behind. damn im pissed i was setting up to scoop up some options just now.

anyway, hope ya'll are makin money
 
Going to buy some Starbucks...... :yes::yes::yes:



They are doing very well targeting the emerging markets (BRIC).

They just signed an agreement with Tata Beverages in India.

I like that because Indians trust and respect Tata in everything that they do.

There is also a base of returning Indians who are already familiar with the brand and what it represents.

Check out the stock and it's performance over the last 3 yrs during the recession.


SBUX

Hopefully by the end of the yr I'm like this:

:dance::dance::dance:

Ok I see why you invested in starbucks now. Good Looks.
 
Soon as my option account is fixed...
Apple, sbux, dmnd, fio options
I wanted bac options but I missed that boat. I was eyeballing when bac was at 7.95 I wanted some april 8 or 9 calls.

Anyway, kaya, salute. I likre to see fam make money!!
Now gimme some of that apple stock, I know you have a bunch lying around :lol: :lol:
 
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