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Feminine how?
She is a god damn Marshal. She hands out ass whippings and bullets. And now she is in charge. So Feminine how?
I dont Follow.
Feminine how?
She is a god damn Marshal. She hands out ass whippings and bullets. And now she is in charge. So Feminine how?
I dont Follow.
How about seeing another side of her in a dress or some shit.
Dig into her personal life a bit.
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Feminine how?
She is a god damn Marshal. She hands out ass whippings and bullets. And now she is in charge. So Feminine how?
I dont Follow.
she's fucking gorgeous. I love me a nice hot dark skinned chick. I love her and miss show because she is exactly who she is, no stereotype. Then they had wagon bullshit that you get and most shows when there is a lead black female. She's cool, and she's good at her job. Sexy without doing much. I love that
as far as this episode it did not say much.Boyd Crowder gave up the briefcase without a fight, which leads me to believe that there isn't anything in it.it felt like a filler episode but there are details in it that let you know that it is much more than that. This is why I love the show
Their yall go with that filler fucking word.
Recap.
The main Villains were introduced.
The main story arch was introduced.
Boyd knows something is up with Ava but is willing to seemingly let her set him up. Like he wont fight her on it.
And he didnt give up the briefcase easy. Raylin had him dead to rights on Black mail and the bank robbery if he didnt lie and say he found it.
what I meant is, the good thing about justified is every episode does not have to be an explosion. The setup episodes are just as good. Painting the story like most TV shows don't bother to do, or are patient enough to do. Because they don't wrap up a story in an hour, justified has become one of my favorite shows. The bad guys aren't black and white, and Boyd Crowder is one of my favorite bad guys in the history of TV.
I've learned to think without arguing with myself.
- Boyd Crowder
- Boyd Crowder
I would read the scripts like s damn novel.
I was laughing out loud and constantly rewinding.
I was laughing out loud and constantly rewinding.
Called that man a peacock
gonna miss this show so damn much
going right back to the beginning Ava Boyd Raylan.
Choo-Choo
that hotel room scene was interesting can't understand how they talking to Boyd like that.
gonna miss this show so damn much
going right back to the beginning Ava Boyd Raylan.
Choo-Choo
that hotel room scene was interesting can't understand how they talking to Boyd like that.
same here. I'm constantly rewinding the show to appreciate the dialogue. When Raylan and Tim are talking in the car and Tim just starts making shit up, lol. I'm over here dying. I want to write like this when I grow up. I already write, just not this good. It's a hard thing to, because everybody can't appreciate this kind of dialogue.
I have tried to get other people into this show and it is missed on them. They all get the quips. maybe I appreciate the show more because I'm a writer. everybody on this show has lines, Quitline, and there's not even a pause between dialogue all the time. It's like rapid fire but in a good way. There are assholes, and smart asses And anyone can be one at any time
I put Boyd in at least one of my Characters I write. I always think to myself how would Boyd say this. I usually try to add as many words as possible.
My favorite convo of last episode is when dude pulled up the Mercedes and was talking to the old woman.
"Handsome young man smiling and offering me a ride in his fancy car, must be the devil himself."
2nd come the "You follow" misunderstanding.
We ALL wish we could write like this.
great bgol writing contest
do a Boyd speech...responding to a bgol member's post.
great bgol writing contest
do a Boyd speech...responding to a bgol member's post.
Well you must forgive me son for my leap in logic, but a man who would propose such a request, must have some kind of under lying agenda. My daddy once said " I mistrust the judgment of anyman when his own wishes are concerned". All though quick to violence I would image my daddy was a pretty intelligent man.
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I put Boyd in at least one of my Characters I write. I always think to myself how would Boyd say this. I usually try to add as many words as possible.
My favorite convo of last episode is when dude pulled up the Mercedes and was talking to the old woman.
"Handsome young man smiling and offering me a ride in his fancy car, must be the devil himself."
2nd come the "You follow" misunderstanding.
If you have access on HBOGO - go back and watch Dead Wood - some of the best writing on TV especially Al Swearengen - perfect name
I used to love how Wu ould always mangle it
Deadwood starred Tim Olyphant as Seth Bullock also but like Justified - the secondary characters carried the show -
Good writing - damn good writing -
watch this on Youtube(can't embed)
http://youtu.be/8-lCeL8JUG4
Brother Winslow...your wisdom knows no bounds.
Deadwood is one of the best damn series on HBO that NO ONE talks about.
But I disagree with that comment about Oliphant that I hear all the time.
I think it shows not only his skills as an actor but a wonderful ego and recognition of the importance of the performance and ensemble as a whole.
Cause without Montana or Raylan both these shows dont work.
He is is essentially the thread that binds everyone together and pretty much everyone works off him one way or another.
Dude is like a damn closer, he ;urks around the periphery till its time.
His scenes with Swearengen are damn classics much like his scenes with Boyd. Its like a deadly dance or a perfect boxing match...and I would argue without Oliphant neither of those men could carry or show or get to showcase their immense skills.
I agree with most of what you wrote - but disagree on one point - Ian McShane can carry any show by himself...
Another HBO show with excellent writing and charachter development that people sleep on is Rome.
shit - I still can't believe that for 2 or 3 years HBO had Sopranos, The Wire, Deadwood and Rome on - but Sopranos got all the attention and awards
I agree with most of what you wrote - but disagree on one point - Ian McShane can carry any show by himself...
Another HBO show with excellent writing and charachter development that people sleep on is Rome.
shit - I still can't believe that for 2 or 3 years HBO had Sopranos, The Wire, Deadwood and Rome on - but Sopranos got all the attention and awards
Oh I will NEVER disrespect the greatness that is Ian McShane.
you are so DAMN right...
and please fam don't get me started about how over rated the Sopranos is and was
RIP James Gandolfini....
I put Boyd in at least one of my Characters I write. I always think to myself how would Boyd say this. I usually try to add as many words as possible.
My favorite convo of last episode is when dude pulled up the Mercedes and was talking to the old woman.
"Handsome young man smiling and offering me a ride in his fancy car, must be the devil himself."
2nd come the "You follow" misunderstanding.
HA! Jay, man. All I could think of was Chewitel Ejofor in Four Brothers saying, "I LIKE THE WAY YOU DO BID-NESS."
Damn that was good, fam. That shit is so fucking good I would swear you stole it from the show itself (which is the ultimate complement in this situation).
You been published, slick? Hit me up
I agree with most of what you wrote - but disagree on one point - Ian McShane can carry any show by himself...
Another HBO show with excellent writing and charachter development that people sleep on is Rome.
shit - I still can't believe that for 2 or 3 years HBO had Sopranos, The Wire, Deadwood and Rome on - but Sopranos got all the attention and awards
Maybe we should consider ourselves blessed. Sopranos got to drinking its own kool-aid and started to suck after season 2 - of course they did have to do everything all over after the mother died in real life (for Justified fam think of how great season 5 of Justified would have been had the Haitian not went off the reservation. He just couldn't wait for his character to develop. I don't know why, it wasn't like the world was knocking down his door)
Had the Wire or any of those shows gotten awards they would likely hvae started smelling their own shit and the writing would have tanked and/or characters would have left because the studio refused to meet their contract demands.
On you folks' word I am downloading Deadwood right now...in 37 minutes. Prolly gonna be up til 4.
You are going to be so fortunate watching it the first time - I used the Xmas holidays of 2013 to binge watch it - just watched Ep after ep until I caught the last episode and was pissed because I realized that there was not going to be another season and that was ll there was.
Swearengen ruled the roost from his balcony over the whorehouse -
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I get the feeling they're going to turn him over to the good side....He's a soldier
and both Raylan and the other deputy seem to like him. Or like ragging him
I think he is seen as an (dangerous) innocent and is being manipulated because of his injury so they aint gonna mess around with him.
But he damn near stole the entire episode.
One of the MANY reasons that their writing was unparalleled is the knack to show some sidekick henchman and make them a memorable charcter....
Yolo!!!
The all star cast on there was ridiculous hell Veronica Mars had one of the GREATEST guest roles in HBO history on Deadwood.
Made her damn career.
And that episode was a damn turning point because it was so damn RAW that all those HBO watchers who couldn't follow the slang and dense dialogue and realism and grittiness were immediately drawn in.
I am just happy that damn near EVERYONE on the cast has gotten regular work since...
including OZ, The Wire and Rome.
at one point LOST just kept hiring actors from those shows exclusively (much like the Walking Dead is doing now)
You never Know with this show, but Tom or Raylin may have to put him down.
I write screenplays and shorts. Some have been produced. I have IMDB credits and all.
Its funny cuz, i be wanting to post shit, I was going to post my baby mama a few times, but she is well known in Atlanta.
CSI on this board get a hold of information and it will be 30pages of ock.
I understand cuz.
bgol writer's circle vow of silence
I'll pm you soon.
congrats...you bills and a select few could do some major damage.
Mary Steenburgen on Justified, Hollywood’s Portrayal of Southerners, and Constantly Breaking While Shooting Step Brothers
Mary Steenburgen is a sweetheart, and she often plays one — but not on Justified. In the FX drama's final season, she's Katherine Hale, a Kentucky crime boss's vengeful widow who's literally sleeping with the enemy, pot baron Avery Markham (Sam Elliott). "When I asked [executive producer] Graham Yost why he thought of me — since a lot of times, people only see me as playing nice people — he said, 'Because I thought you could handle the humor of it,'" Steenburgen says. "I was honored, and I hope I've lived up to it." The 61-year-old actress spoke with Vulture about joining Justified, New York in the ’70s, and her inability to stop herself from laughing on the set of Step Brothers.
Is it liberating for you to play a villain on Justified?
Katherine is fascinating to me. I actually felt I understood her very well from the get-go. She has her own bizarre morality. She wasn't faithful to her husband sexually, but she's faithful to him in terms of avenging his death.
Do you feel simpatico with Sam Elliott, with whom you previously co-starred in 2009's Did You Hear About the Morgans?
Definitely. Sam and I just understand each other. I hadn't seen him for a few years, but it was very easy for us to pick up. He's still so willing to go out there and be on the edge. There's not a been-there, done-that, phoning-it-in thing with him. He's still very brave and interested, as am I. Well, I'm interested. I'll leave it up to everyone else to decide if I'm brave, but I'm still very compelled by this work.
Is it bittersweet joining the show as it's winding down?
Yes. I could have easily done a couple more years of this, although I'm doing multiple TV projects right now. I'm not sure my body would have been too happy about all the hours. But I was sad to say good-bye to everybody, and to my character. At the same time, it was a very heightened moment because every scene meant so much to everyone. So in a funny way, it was perfect for me.
As an Arkansan, how do you feel about the way Justified portrays the South?
I love that my character is southern and lethally intelligent. She might make immoral choices, but she's really smart. I've had battles with writers who live in L.A. and were writing southern characters, because they felt like if they wrote "Sugar" and "Honey" at the end of every sentence, that would make it southern. There are no worse clichés than southern clichés. They make my skin crawl.
Have you always had an issue with Hollywood's portrayal of the South?
I remember when I was growing up and watching southern people depicted on television, I thought, Well, based on what I'm seeing, I guess I'm supposed to be stupid and racist. It's still, sadly, the easy route for a writer to go. These southern characters are far more diverse and complex than most.
You've also got roles in Orange Is the New Black, Will Forte's Last Man on Earth, Robert Redford's A Walk in the Woods, which recently debuted at Sundance, and with Anne Hathaway in Song One, which just opened in theaters and on VOD. Do you feel like you're busier than ever?
This has definitely been one of the busiest times of my career, if not the busiest. I'm saying yes to more things because I have two children and two stepchildren, and there were a lot of times in my life when I felt like the timing was not right to work. Like all careers, mine has had ebbs and flows. I'm actually at an age when I didn't expect to be working at all, but for some reason, it's a very rich time for me.
You started out at the Neighborhood Playhouse in the early ’70s. What do you miss the most about the way New York City was in those days?
There was a really druggy, wild energy to New York then that's very different now. The city wasn't nearly as safe. I remember whole neighborhoods that I didn't dare go to without a guy, and even then, I'd still be nervous. It's a very different city now. Some people complain that it's more boring and milquetoast, but I think it's cool that kids today can own the whole island.
The two movies you made with Will Ferrell, Elf and Step Brothers, have become cult classics. Do fans often ask you about those films?
Step Brothers is probably the film the most people who approach me want to talk about. For years before that, it had been Back to the Future III. And Elf has become increasingly this film that families gather to watch as part of their Christmas ritual. So that's really sweet.
How did you decide to work with Will again on Step Brothers?
He called me and said, "Would you be insulted if I asked you to play my mom — because I know you're only 14 years older than me?" And I said, "Will, I would be insulted if you asked anybody else." That job was like this reward for surviving the very difficult passages of my career. I felt like it was the business's gift to me.
How so?
Because I'm kind of a laugh junkie. I really love funny people — I married a funny person [Ted Danson], my son [Charlie McDowell, director of last year's indie comedy The One I Love] is a funny person. As Will Forte will now tell you, I'm incredibly undisciplined when it comes to getting the giggles. I'm the first person to break up. I really try. I'm not proud of it. There are so many shots in Step Brothers where you can see I'm laughing, and I said to [director] Adam McKay, "Why did you leave those takes in where you can see I'm laughing?" And he said, "Because, Mary, we have no takes where you're not laughing."
Mary Steenburgen is a sweetheart, and she often plays one — but not on Justified. In the FX drama's final season, she's Katherine Hale, a Kentucky crime boss's vengeful widow who's literally sleeping with the enemy, pot baron Avery Markham (Sam Elliott). "When I asked [executive producer] Graham Yost why he thought of me — since a lot of times, people only see me as playing nice people — he said, 'Because I thought you could handle the humor of it,'" Steenburgen says. "I was honored, and I hope I've lived up to it." The 61-year-old actress spoke with Vulture about joining Justified, New York in the ’70s, and her inability to stop herself from laughing on the set of Step Brothers.
Is it liberating for you to play a villain on Justified?
Katherine is fascinating to me. I actually felt I understood her very well from the get-go. She has her own bizarre morality. She wasn't faithful to her husband sexually, but she's faithful to him in terms of avenging his death.
Do you feel simpatico with Sam Elliott, with whom you previously co-starred in 2009's Did You Hear About the Morgans?
Definitely. Sam and I just understand each other. I hadn't seen him for a few years, but it was very easy for us to pick up. He's still so willing to go out there and be on the edge. There's not a been-there, done-that, phoning-it-in thing with him. He's still very brave and interested, as am I. Well, I'm interested. I'll leave it up to everyone else to decide if I'm brave, but I'm still very compelled by this work.
Is it bittersweet joining the show as it's winding down?
Yes. I could have easily done a couple more years of this, although I'm doing multiple TV projects right now. I'm not sure my body would have been too happy about all the hours. But I was sad to say good-bye to everybody, and to my character. At the same time, it was a very heightened moment because every scene meant so much to everyone. So in a funny way, it was perfect for me.
As an Arkansan, how do you feel about the way Justified portrays the South?
I love that my character is southern and lethally intelligent. She might make immoral choices, but she's really smart. I've had battles with writers who live in L.A. and were writing southern characters, because they felt like if they wrote "Sugar" and "Honey" at the end of every sentence, that would make it southern. There are no worse clichés than southern clichés. They make my skin crawl.
Have you always had an issue with Hollywood's portrayal of the South?
I remember when I was growing up and watching southern people depicted on television, I thought, Well, based on what I'm seeing, I guess I'm supposed to be stupid and racist. It's still, sadly, the easy route for a writer to go. These southern characters are far more diverse and complex than most.
You've also got roles in Orange Is the New Black, Will Forte's Last Man on Earth, Robert Redford's A Walk in the Woods, which recently debuted at Sundance, and with Anne Hathaway in Song One, which just opened in theaters and on VOD. Do you feel like you're busier than ever?
This has definitely been one of the busiest times of my career, if not the busiest. I'm saying yes to more things because I have two children and two stepchildren, and there were a lot of times in my life when I felt like the timing was not right to work. Like all careers, mine has had ebbs and flows. I'm actually at an age when I didn't expect to be working at all, but for some reason, it's a very rich time for me.
You started out at the Neighborhood Playhouse in the early ’70s. What do you miss the most about the way New York City was in those days?
There was a really druggy, wild energy to New York then that's very different now. The city wasn't nearly as safe. I remember whole neighborhoods that I didn't dare go to without a guy, and even then, I'd still be nervous. It's a very different city now. Some people complain that it's more boring and milquetoast, but I think it's cool that kids today can own the whole island.
The two movies you made with Will Ferrell, Elf and Step Brothers, have become cult classics. Do fans often ask you about those films?
Step Brothers is probably the film the most people who approach me want to talk about. For years before that, it had been Back to the Future III. And Elf has become increasingly this film that families gather to watch as part of their Christmas ritual. So that's really sweet.
How did you decide to work with Will again on Step Brothers?
He called me and said, "Would you be insulted if I asked you to play my mom — because I know you're only 14 years older than me?" And I said, "Will, I would be insulted if you asked anybody else." That job was like this reward for surviving the very difficult passages of my career. I felt like it was the business's gift to me.
How so?
Because I'm kind of a laugh junkie. I really love funny people — I married a funny person [Ted Danson], my son [Charlie McDowell, director of last year's indie comedy The One I Love] is a funny person. As Will Forte will now tell you, I'm incredibly undisciplined when it comes to getting the giggles. I'm the first person to break up. I really try. I'm not proud of it. There are so many shots in Step Brothers where you can see I'm laughing, and I said to [director] Adam McKay, "Why did you leave those takes in where you can see I'm laughing?" And he said, "Because, Mary, we have no takes where you're not laughing."
Sam Elliot looks odd without his mustache, but I like the way things are headed...major ego measuring.
Choo choo is a BGOL member
Boyd said "you interrupted my repast" ?!
LOL I've heard that used in context twice in my life (once due to this show)
Choo choo is a BGOL member
Boyd said "you interrupted my repast" ?!
LOL I've heard that used in context twice in my life (once due to this show)
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