Official Guide to Dealing with Cops

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Official Guide to Dealing with Police

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This is a general guide to dealing with police and avoiding deadly encounters.

Never establish voluntary/consensual contact with Police! You need to leave an encounter as soon as possible. It is not the time to be social or friendly. They don't know if you have committed an arm robbery.

The problem when the police approach somebody is that citizens feel they are being detained and unable to leave unless the officer lets them. In many cases, this is not the case. By asking the right questions, you can figure out what is happening. Asking if you are being detained will allow you to determine that you can leave an encounter quickly for safety. The police can detain you without physical restraint, causing confusion for many people.

An officer by remaining silent about the nature of the encounter can say that he was not detaining you for questioning in court to get around the need to establish reasonable suspicion. You don't have to be social or polite which may be counter intuitive to your nature.

Are you detaining me or am I free to go?

You want to figure out if you are on the left or middle. If you are on the left side walk or drive away! A traffic stop does not give an officer reasonable suspicion for anything else, other than to write a speeding ticket or other minor traffic offenses. The officer may exploit that opportunity to make general inquiry about other crimes. You need to tell them to finish writing your ticket and remain silent. In essence, you can have two of these at a time! You can be detained for a traffic ticket and be on the middle/right just for that minor traffic offense and an officer can have you on the left while writing the ticket for other crimes.

Traffic Stop:
Are you detaining me for some other criminal offense or am I free to go after writing my traffic ticket
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Grab your wallet with your ID and car registration before the police approach your car! Searching for any items when they are near could trigger a panic situation resulting in your death.

Complaint!

If you see misconduct or incompetence, file a complaint. A cop wants to stay on the job and avoid getting fired. Wait until after the encounter to respond. If a cop put you on the middle or right side without good justification, complain. Don't let this guy continue to patrol without his work performance documented. Somebody might need that information to discredit or prove misconduct by showing a pattern.

Based on my experience, police are being used to enforce segregation, kill, or ethnically cleanse by the community. You can reduce their effectiveness by being knowledgeable reducing possible encounters. Your response will shape their behavior with other people.

Film Law Enforcement - Cell Phones, This will create a panopticon effect that will deter any misconduct

Finally, be politically active, to shape the policies and laws that police enforce. Don't let a small minority pass all kinds of laws or put racist cops on the squad to ethnically cleanse through targeted enforcement.




Stop and Identify

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_identify_statutes

ACLU Recommends:
DO give your name and the information on your drivers’ license. If you don’t, you may be arrested, even though the arrest may be illegal.
 
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Never establish consensual/voluntary contact with Police!

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Never Open the Door for the Police, Lock It!
 
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Another Good Video...

Police can ask everybody in the car at a traffic stop to exit the vehicle. Lock the doors and do not consent to a search.


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Knowledge is Power, Avoid dangerous encounters and alter police behavior...
 
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Size Matters....

If you are small in stature or a women, and charge a police officer he or she may be less likely to use a gun to protect themselves

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If you look like this or in my case where I can be double their size, it is as if you are carrying a loaded weapon, because you can easily overpower them and take their gun away. This can cause them anxiety upon initial contact and more likely to use deadly force.

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You need to be extra cautious if you are a large person and the officer does not have backup. Any signs of aggression will cause adrenaline, they know you can beat their ass the moment you lay hands on them.

Smile and speak calmly, remain at a safe distance.

 
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What this ruling means for you

The Caballes ruling authorizes police to walk a drug dog around the vehicle during any legitimate traffic stop. If the dog signals that it smells drugs, police then have probable cause to conduct a search. However, the ruling does not allow police to detain you indefinitely until dogs arrive. The legitimacy of the traffic stop still depends on its duration. Basically, if police can’t bring a dog to the scene in the time it takes to run your tags and write a ticket, the use of the dog becomes constitutionally suspect. So if you’re pulled over and police threaten to call in the dogs, you are not required to consent to searches.

Usually, the officer won’t have a police dog on hand and he needs reasonable suspicion to detain you while waiting for the drug dog. Before the dog arrives, you have the right to determine if you can leave by asking “Officer, am I free to go?” If the officer refuses and detains you until the dogs come, you have the right to remain silent and refuse to consent to any searches. If a dog arrives, you have the right to refuse to consent to a dog sniff, even if the officer claims you have to. Be aware that unlocking your car at the officer’s request or handing the officer your keys is the same as consenting to a search. You always have the right to refuse by stating “Officer, I don’t consent to any searches.” (Repeat, if necessary.) If a judge determines that the officer had no justification to detain you until the dog arrived, any evidence discovered by the dog may be thrown out in court
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The police can't detain you longer than a normal traffic stop to bring a drug dog, unless they have reasonable suspicion. Since marijuana is legal in some states, the smell is not reasonable cause.
 
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What did he do wrong in dealing with police?


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What did he do wrong in dealing with police?


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Don't exit the vehicle unless told by the cops. Grab your wallet and ID before the cop approaches.

With you in the car, it limits your range of firing a pistol.

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Look at how both perps got out and fired their weapon.

Somebody could get pulled over and exit with no weapon to get the officer close to his vehicle, than hide a gun in their car. Pretend to need to get his wallet than grab a gun and blast the cop at close range. He should have had that shit ready from the jump.
 
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Don't exit the vehicle unless told by the cops. Grab your wallet and ID before the cop approaches.

With you in the car, it limits your range of firing a pistol.

It appears in the video the person doesn't even realize that the cop was even following him.

It appears he was just going about his business and exiting his vehicle to go into the store, before the cop came upon him.
 
It appears in the video the person doesn't even realize that the cop was even following him.

It appears he was just going about his business and exiting his vehicle to go into the store, before the cop came upon him.

The three-minute-long video recording — first played at Wednesday’s bond hearing and then published online by The State newspaper — shows Groubert trailing a pickup truck earlier this month in his cruiser for a few seconds before he initiates a traffic stop over a supposed seat belt violation and pulls up behind the vehicle at a local gas station.

http://rt.com/usa/190636-trooper-groubert-jones-shooting/

You leave your vehicle without your wallet after a traffic stop? I can see a scenario where somebody could leave their gun in their car and exit the vehicle knowing the police will ask for ID, than go back in and come out to blast the cop after pretending to get your wallet.

The officer would get a bullet instead of a drivers license.

Update: The cop asked him to exit his vehicle.

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http://rt.com/usa/190636-trooper-groubert-jones-shooting/

You leave your vehicle without your wallet after a traffic stop? I can see a scenario where somebody could leave their gun in their car and exit the vehicle knowing the police will ask for ID, than go back in and come out to blast the cop after pretending to get your wallet.

The officer would get a bullet instead of a drivers license.

Update: The cop asked him to exit his vehicle.

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You leave your vehicle without your wallet after a traffic stop?

Is there a law against that?

Oh yea, for Black folk.

What was he doing wrong?

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...and then again what whites have to do to get shot

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Enough of your apologies!
 
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I am not making excuses, whites are going to play games to kill you. They knew he posed no threat but called the cops to kill him. If they can't kill you than they will look for ways to incarcerate.

They saw a chance and in a conspiracy with the police killed him. You have to be more vigilant, be more aware, and knowledgeable about the law if you want to survive. You are living in a hostile, dangerous environment, this is not the time to be in a MLK dream world.


 
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The black experience...

Video shows officer using stun gun in traffic stop
A cellphone video released Tuesday shows police in Indiana breaking a car window then using a stun gun on an adult male passenger after officers stopped the driver for not wearing a seat belt.


the white experience...

Cop Buys Mom Booster Seat Instead of Issuing a Ticket
Hall said DeLorenzo told him that her car had been repossessed that day with her daughter's booster seat in it, and she simply couldn't afford a replacement booster seat. Instead of writing DeLorenzo a ticket, Hall decided to address the problem with, to his mind, a more productive solution.
 
Teen allegedly knocked out during arrest, caught on camera

It's good in theory to promote that people should know how their rights under the law when dealing with cops, but that doesn't really seem to be the problem. Black people submit to the cops' authority, put their hands up, and still get shot or punch.

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TEEN ALLEGEDLY KNOCKED OUT DURING ARREST, CAUGHT ON CAMERA

CLINTON HILL (WABC) -- New video has surfaced of an especially harsh arrest by police on the streets of New York City.

So, did police go too far?

"It's just a cigarette!" Marcel Hamer is heard saying in the video.

The video begins with Marcel Hamer already on the ground but still struggling with the plainclothes cops trying to arrest him on suspicion of smoking pot.

"Mister it's just a cigarette sir!" Marcel Hamer said in the video.

And then, you can't see it but you sure can hear what sounds like contact with Hamer's head. Enough to lay him out cold on that Clinton Hill corner.

"He knocked out! Yes, he knocked out! You knocked him out!" people are heard saying in the video.

Four months later, attorneys for Hamer filed a notice of claim against the city for $5 million. They claim the now 17-year-old is a victim of excessive force.

"He's been complaining of headaches, he's been repeating a lot of things, he's different," said Mary Hamer, Marcel's mother.

It's the second piece of video to emerge just Tuesday involving dramatic arrests in Brooklyn. Another clip, from nearby Bedford-Stuyvesant, shows two officers punching a different drug suspect, who'd led them on a chase.

"I see these videos as another piece of information we need to use to improve the relationship between police and community and in many cases to heal the relationship between police and community," Mayor de Blasio said.

The police department already suspended one of those officers, from the 79th Precinct; the other for now is off the street.

This time, it's cops from the 88th Precinct who are under the microscope.

The NYPD will say only that it's referred the case to internal affairs.

http://7online.com/news/teen-allegedly-knocked-out-during-arrest-caught-on-camera/341229/
 
I am not making excuses, whites are going to play games to kill you. They knew he posed no threat but called the cops to kill him. If they can't kill you than they will look for ways to incarcerate.

They saw a chance and in a conspiracy with the police killed him. You have to be more vigilant, be more aware, and knowledgeable about the law if you want to survive. You are living in a hostile, dangerous environment, this is not the time to be in a MLK dream world.



Black folk get off of their asses and participate in the political system and vote, these city council would be more sensitive to the police brutality.

NYC elected a mayor that reduced police harassment among people and police complains and conflicts dropped in one year.
 
Re: Teen allegedly knocked out during arrest, caught on camera

It's good in theory to promote that people should know how their rights under the law when dealing with cops, but that doesn't really seem to be the problem.

Black people submit to the cops' authority, put their hands up, and still get shot or punch[ed].

A point missed by many; and by a lot of white TV commentators and analysts in just the last 24 hours.


 
Black folk get off of their asses and participate in the political system and vote, these city council would be more sensitive to the police brutality.

NYC elected a mayor that reduced police harassment among people and police complains and conflicts dropped in one year.

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