Official - Better Call Saul - Discussion Thread

gdatruth said:
isnt funny how the legit businessmen tried to screw Jimmy over after he delivered the commercial & new business
but the drug dealer paid up as soon as Jimmy got him off

go figure
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like Mike said
What's the difference between a bad guy and a criminal?



you've got bad people walking around that aren't criminals and good people that happen to be criminals

if you notice during the show Jimmy hates bad people and prefers to target them for swindles
 
ViCiouS said:
its perfect for binge watching... So I expect 5 seasons
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Wish more of the Breaking Bad fans would give it a chance. Many probably feel it's too slow a build ... but they'd undoubtedly end up digging the transitionary process of Jimmy McGill to Saul Goodman, more about what Mike was up to previously, and of course the storylines involving Gus & Hector who were such key characters on BB. It's definitely a prequel series that has delivered, and didn't fall flat as if it was some mere cash grab.
 
Helico-pterFunk said:
Wish more of the Breaking Bad fans would give it a chance. Many probably feel it's too slow a build ... but they'd undoubtedly end up digging the transitionary process of Jimmy McGill to Saul Goodman, more about what Mike was up to previously, and of course the storylines involving Gus & Hector who were such key characters on BB. It's definitely a prequel series that has delivered, and didn't fall flat as if it was some mere cash grab.
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Breaking Bad fans got hooked watching it on Netflix
I think Saul will be the same
 
ViCiouS said:
Breaking Bad fans got hooked watching it on Netflix
I think Saul will be the same
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Hope so. Fans of BB would dig the back story of BCS, I believe. Talked to a friend and they thought it was a spin-off/sequel series. Told them nah - it's explaining how Goodman, Salamanca, Fring, Ehrmantraut, and others came to be later on. They were caught off-guard ... told them to get on it and quit bullshittin'. They mostly watch tennis, NBA, the Prison Break re-up, On Demand movies & Big Brother. Again told them - quit bullshittin'!




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Helico-pterFunk said:
Hope so. Fans of BB would dig the back story of BCS, I believe. Talked to a friend and they thought it was a spin-off/sequel series. Told them nah - it's explaining how Goodman, Salamanca, Fring, Ehrmantraut, and others came to be later on. They were caught off-guard ... told them to get on it and quit bullshittin'. They mostly watch tennis, NBA, the Prison Break re-up, On Demand movies & Big Brother. Again told them - quit bullshittin'!




:roflmao3:
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I've road with Jimmy from the jump and always had his side when it came to his issues with chuck/h&m...

but that was the coldest shit he has ever done let alone one of the coldest moments on eithet show period. He legitimately ruined Irene's life.

every episode we see less of Jimmy and more of Saul
 
gdatruth said:
I've road with Jimmy from the jump and always had his side when it came to his issues with chuck/h&m...

but that was the coldest shit he has ever done let alone one of the coldest moments on eithet show period. He legitimately ruined Irene's life.

every episode we see less of Jimmy and more of Saul
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I felt bad for the old lady then remembered she's a cac and the black lady wasn't gettin her doe.

Kim is gonna burn herself out.

Again fuck chuck.

Fuckin sala showed his weakness to Gus, didn't look like pill worked.

Damn, nacho with his pops. Man that's got to be a hard thing to do as a father.
 
gdatruth said:
I've road with Jimmy from the jump and always had his side when it came to his issues with chuck/h&m...

but that was the coldest shit he has ever done let alone one of the coldest moments on eithet show period. He legitimately ruined Irene's life.

every episode we see less of Jimmy and more of Saul
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They're the same person I'm just sitting back though
 
I know you're a working lawyer kim hustling your ass off trying to make it but fuck that stop what you're doing and celebrate you're already late something good has happened to me
 
still confused how jimmy makes millions with the lawsuit and millions more through dealers, and still uses the back of a nail shop.
 
He officially crossed the line tonite... Desperation can lead people to commit some despicable acts.... He could have gone about this alot of ways... But it was done this way to show a clear transition of Jimmy.
 
D'Evils said:
I think she fell asleep behind the wheel and drove off the road.

I had to watch the scene about 3 times to notice I thought somebody hit her at first too.
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yeah she fell asleep

notice the road she drove off bends just before where she drove off into the rocks
 
gdatruth said:
I've road with Jimmy from the jump and always had his side when it came to his issues with chuck/h&m...

but that was the coldest shit he has ever done let alone one of the coldest moments on eithet show period. He legitimately ruined Irene's life.

every episode we see less of Jimmy and more of Saul
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It seems cold, but Jimmy was right in a way. The law firms would have kept the suit going on forever just to collect the fees. By the time they settled most of the plantifs would have died of old age.

Irene was trying to bring her wishy washy attitude to a situation where she needed to be definitive. Her and her friend's nest egg were on the line and she wants to listen to a second year lawyer? Jimmy had to snap her out of the sunken place.
 
gdatruth said:
I've road with Jimmy from the jump and always had his side when it came to his issues with chuck/h&m...

but that was the coldest shit he has ever done let alone one of the coldest moments on eithet show period. He legitimately ruined Irene's life.

every episode we see less of Jimmy and more of Saul
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I'm glad someone said it. You can see he hesitated a moment before setting up those bingo balls. He knew he was doing some fucked up shit but still went forward with it. The lengths he went to set that whole scenario up was astonishing.
 
Dannyblueyes said:
It seems cold, but Jimmy was right in a way. The law firms would have kept the suit going on forever just to collect the fees. By the time they settled most of the plantifs would have died of old age.

Irene was trying to bring her wishy washy attitude to a situation where she needed to be definitive. Her and her friend's nest egg were on the line and she wants to listen to a second year lawyer? Jimmy had to snap her out of the sunken place.
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Maybe, but that was in character for Ms Irene and the rest of them old folks. They listened to the young Lawyer is the same reason they listened to Jimmy in the first place, because the lawyers seem like they know what they are talking about. All that shady shit the retirement community was doing to them probably stopped as soon as the lawsuit hit.

Also them old folks was just old, it wasn't like they were really sick, they probably was going to be around for a minute. All Jimmy did was make sure them peoples family was gonna inherit less paper down the line. What were they were gonna do with the extra 15-20k they probably get while they were in rest home? Nothing.
 
gdatruth said:
I've road with Jimmy from the jump and always had his side when it came to his issues with chuck/h&m...

but that was the coldest shit he has ever done let alone one of the coldest moments on eithet show period. He legitimately ruined Irene's life.

every episode we see less of Jimmy and more of Saul
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Jimmy is a piece of shit con man and his brother is the only one who sees it. Obviously Jimmy is the star of the show so the writers have to make him somewhat likeable, but everything Chucks says about Jimmy is true.
 
Flawless said:
Jimmy is a piece of shit con man and his brother is the only one who sees it. Obviously Jimmy is the star of the show so the writers have to make him somewhat likeable, but everything Chucks says about Jimmy is true.
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That's the same as Jessie and Walt tho.

The beauty of the show is how we empathize with the bad good ones and the good bad ones.
 
Fresh Chalice said:
That's the same as Jessie and Walt tho.

The beauty of the show is how we empathize with the bad good ones and the good bad ones.
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I disagree, Walt had cancer and wanted to make sure his family was taken care of. He wasn't a bad person, but unfortunately for him once he became successful shit got real and out of control.
 
Flawless said:
I disagree, Walt had cancer and wanted to make sure his family was taken care of. He wasn't a bad person, but unfortunately for him once he became successful shit got real and out of control.
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Jimmy just wants to take care of his brother and become a lawyer to prove he's not a screw up to that wack broad. He was trying not to be a bad person. It's not working out and we are seeing him go the fuck it route.
 
Kim used to be a rider, but it seems like she's getting tired of the bullshit

Even when Jimmy does good and gets the money, I'm sure she questions what he did to get it

Flawless said:
Jimmy is a piece of shit con man and his brother is the only one who sees it. Obviously Jimmy is the star of the show so the writers have to make him somewhat likeable, but everything Chucks says about Jimmy is true.
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:yes: and he didn't want him at the firm because he knew he would tarnish the name by crossing the line

Chucks a dick head, but he knows Jimmy
 
Flawless said:
I disagree, Walt had cancer and wanted to make sure his family was taken care of. He wasn't a bad person, but unfortunately for him once he became successful shit got real and out of control.
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road to hell is paved with good intentions
and walt had financial alternatives other than cooking meth - that he was too proud to explore

he walked away from being a millionaire
destroyed lives and his family behind pride
 
Complex said:
he didn't want him at the firm because he knew he would tarnish the name by crossing the line

Chucks a dick head, but he knows Jimmy
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its a vicious circle...
they way they are telling the story it appears Jimmy would not have crossed the line if Chuck didn't continuously sabotage him
If Jim is working HHM - he never meets Mike or Nacho - hell he completely avoids criminal law
When Jim develops a nice class action suit - Chuck worked on pushing him out of HHM again- Jim wouldn't have been so restless if he was hired at HHM cause there is no need for him to ever hear about a chimp with a machine gun

If Chuck doesn't poach Kim's business (real dick move), Jim doesn't feel the obligation to get it back

The show has shown that Jim is an excellent lawyer - being able to exploit the law without actually breaking it and able to develop new business - with support, he would be killing it in elder law and maybe insurance
 
ViCiouS said:
its a vicious circle...
they way they are telling the story it appears Jimmy would not have crossed the line if Chuck didn't continuously sabotage him
If Jim is working HHM - he never meets Mike or Nacho - hell he completely avoids criminal law
When Jim develops a nice class action suit - Chuck worked on pushing him out of HHM again- Jim wouldn't have been so restless if he was hired at HHM cause there is no need for him to ever hear about a chimp with a machine gun

If Chuck doesn't poach Kim's business (real dick move), Jim doesn't feel the obligation to get it back

The show has shown that Jim is an excellent lawyer - being able to exploit the law without actually breaking it and able to develop new business - with support, he would be killing it in elder law and maybe insurance
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Y'all might have forgot Jimmy was a full blown con man before Chuck bailed him out with his Legal skills and hooked him up with a job. He did that because he cared about his brother to some degree (even if he was secretly jealous of him). All Chuck wanted was to minimize the damage Jimmy could do. He knew slippin Jimmy with a law degree was Death Star level damage and he so he tried to sabotage Jimmy's legal career.

So why couldn't Jimmy just stick it out and Ernst and Maine (or whatever). He was set for life, but nah he had to get back in the "action". Had to have that hustle lifestyle. That shows you he couldn't have made it at HHM. He would have done the same shady shit whenever something didn't go his way. He takes shortcuts eventually thats just who he is.

Also, to be fair, even though Kim brought that bank business to HHM, she left on her own terms and took the business with her, but HHM isn't obligated to just let the business go. They went after it fair and square and won it back. Keep in mind at that point They paid for Kim's law school, so I can understand them feeling some kind of way about her taking a big client from them.

If you been Team Jimmy for 3 seasons, I don't know how you can wave that flag proudly after last weeks episode. He's Saul Goodman in everything but name at his point.
 
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dawilleyone said:
Y'all might have forgot Jimmy was a full blown con man before Chuck bailed him out with his Legal skills and hooked him up with a job. He did that because he cared about his brother to some degree (even if he was secretly jealous of him). All Chuck wanted was to minimize the damage Jimmy could do. He knew slippin Jimmy with a law degree was Death Star level damage and he so he tried to sabotage Jimmy's legal career.
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Bullshit. Chuck was fine as long as Jimmy was under his thumb and he could condescend to him and let him know how he needed to do better and be better... as long as "better" remained his professional inferior. The moment Jimmy proved himself the be an intellectual or professional equal or potential to be, Chuck started the bullshit. Jimmys entire existence became an attempt to earn his brothers respect. Chucks purpose became to remind Jimmy he was subservient and inadequate.
 
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