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Sutter hasn't done anything near that quality - ever
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Gus had self-control and long-term planning.

Tuco was all rage and power.

Nothing wrong with Tuco's style but if you're running a vast crime network, you gotta be patient and focus on the long game.
 
Well damn. OK I take everything back I said about his brother. I apologize to him fully. If Jimmy had killed my father by stealing from him and making him lose his lifelong dream I'd act even WORSE than he does towards him. Probably wouldn't be able to stand the sight of him.

Jimmy ain't shit and always hasn't been shit apparently. Not a sympathetic figure at all.
 
interesting. didnt expect Tio to make an appearance. i wonder how he landed in a wheelchair.

nevermind, he had a stroke.


Tuco’s uncle, Hector Salamanca (Mark Margolis) — a key member of the Juarez Cartel who would later suffer a stroke, rendering him capable of communicating only by dinging a bell on his wheelchair — joined the list of Bad characters who have popped up on Saul

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/14/better-call-saul-postmortem-breaking-bad-villain-returns
 
Well damn. OK I take everything back I said about his brother. I apologize to him fully. If Jimmy had killed my father by stealing from him and making him lose his lifelong dream I'd act even WORSE than he does towards him. Probably wouldn't be able to stand the sight of him.

Jimmy ain't shit and always hasn't been shit apparently. Not a sympathetic figure at all.
Now I'm like Fuck them both, everything Jimmy talks I want to punch him. He's annoying
 
Well damn. OK I take everything back I said about his brother. I apologize to him fully. If Jimmy had killed my father by stealing from him and making him lose his lifelong dream I'd act even WORSE than he does towards him. Probably wouldn't be able to stand the sight of him.

Jimmy ain't shit and always hasn't been shit apparently. Not a sympathetic figure at all.

I been riding with jimmy and the story is damning but there are 2 sides to every story. I wouldn't be surprised if chuck embelished the story or doesn't have all the facts but automatically painted jimmy the sinner.

Damn feel sorry Kim. She getting fucked for jimmy's shit.

And nacho was right. Mike fucked up taking half measures. But if they found that quickly over assault what would they have done to him or his fam if he went through with the hit.
 
While I don't think Better Call Saul can reach the level of its predecessor, it's making some damn fine television.

I'm glad they humanized Chuck a bit in this last episode because he was shaping up to be the all time asshole before this. I've not had to deal with it myself, but I know a lot of people that have had to wear that millstone around their neck of a family member that just won't do right. As Chuck said about Jimmy, "He just can't help himself". It's got to be even more frustrating when you know that person can do well even walking the straight and narrow.

Also clearly, Chucks deterioration must have had something to do with whatever happened to his wife. I hope Jimmy didn't have no role in that too. Chuck is a little jealous that his wife is appearing to enjoy Jimmy's company, but I think he's more worried that Jimmy will do something that will embarrass him more than anything else.

I'm looking forward to the moment where Jimmy just says "FUCK IT" and Saul Goodman is born. I suspect it will have something to do with whatever happens to Chuck since he was not in the original series.

Mike's storyline is so so good. You can see the palpable frustration on his face as he's forced to slide further and further into the criminal underworld. He's driven by guilt over what happened to his son, but I'll be damned if I can say for sure whether his daughter in law is actually traumatized or is just playing Mike for $$. As poster

The only unfortunate part of the show is that it's supposed to be 6 years before the characters were introduced on Breaking Bad, but most of the actors look about 10 years older than they did on Breaking. Mike, especially, looks like just a hard old man compared to the competent enforcer he played on Breaking Bad. Not sure they can do much about that, but they do seem to be able to age Jimmy up and down in the flash backs just fine. Not a major thing, but it breaks the authenticity of the show a bit.
 
The only unfortunate part of the show is that it's supposed to be 6 years before the characters were introduced on Breaking Bad, but most of the actors look about 10 years older than they did on Breaking. Mike, especially, looks like just a hard old man compared to the competent enforcer he played on Breaking Bad. Not sure they can do much about that, but they do seem to be able to age Jimmy up and down in the flash backs just fine. Not a major thing, but it breaks the authenticity of the show a bit.

I agree. It kind of reminds me of when John Hamm tried to play a teenaged Dick Whitman in Korea.
 
Well damn. OK I take everything back I said about his brother. I apologize to him fully. If Jimmy had killed my father by stealing from him and making him lose his lifelong dream I'd act even WORSE than he does towards him. Probably wouldn't be able to stand the sight of him.

Jimmy ain't shit and always hasn't been shit apparently. Not a sympathetic figure at all.

Unless Chuck saw Jimmy take money out of the till, or Jimmy confessed to it, then he really doesn't know how the business lost $14,000. Even if Jimmy did steal the money it's the father's bad for not regulating. Then he killed himself (presumably) over losing the shop? SMH

Their father was not a good man. He was a weak piece of shit that blew the family money on a risky venture to satisfy his own ego without taking the time to learn his hustle properly. Chuck has engaged in petty sibling rivalry ever since.
 
Unless Chuck saw Jimmy take money out of the till, or Jimmy confessed to it, then he really doesn't know how the business lost $14,000. Even if Jimmy did steal the money it's the father's bad for not regulating. Then he killed himself (presumably) over losing the shop? SMH

Their father was not a good man. He was a weak piece of shit that blew the family money on a risky venture to satisfy his own ego without taking the time to learn his hustle properly. Chuck has engaged in petty sibling rivalry ever since.

Get the fuck out of here. How did 14k magically disappear from the time Jimmy has been working there then? His father wasn't a gambler or drinker and it was his dream plus he wasn't business smart and jimmy knows a mark when he sees one. he saw his daddy as a mark and lived it up to the tune of 14k throughout his tenure working at the store and nobody was the wiser.

Everything jimmy has done to this point in the show proves that he damn sure did steal that money. It had to start SOMEWHERE right? he had to start skimming and being a scam artist SOMEWHERE right?

And fuck you talking about wasn't a good man? He was a good man by all accounts. His family loved him the neighborhood loved him and respected him and he didn't do shit bad to people that by default is a good man. Not being book smart isn't being a weak piece of shit. and def not working hard for years saving up to make your dreams come true isn't a risky venture. if they had an extra 14 thousand fucking dollars im sure they wouldn't have had to sell the store.
 
I been riding with jimmy and the story is damning but there are 2 sides to every story. I wouldn't be surprised if chuck embelished the story or doesn't have all the facts but automatically painted jimmy the sinner.

Damn feel sorry Kim. She getting fucked for jimmy's shit.

And nacho was right. Mike fucked up taking half measures. But if they found that quickly over assault what would they have done to him or his fam if he went through with the hit.

Because Jimmy has been sinning. It had to start somewhere. We see him not think twice about getting over every single week why wouldn't he think "It's just a couple of bucks it won't matter" for years and years? lol "The way I see it, it's just a tip to myself for working in the store. If you think about it, it's just a bonus for me working here as much as I do, I deserve this money."

that don't sound like jimmy?
 
Get the fuck out of here. How did 14k magically disappear from the time Jimmy has been working there then? His father wasn't a gambler or drinker and it was his dream plus he wasn't business smart and jimmy knows a mark when he sees one. he saw his daddy as a mark and lived it up to the tune of 14k throughout his tenure working at the store and nobody was the wiser.

Everything jimmy has done to this point in the show proves that he damn sure did steal that money. It had to start SOMEWHERE right? he had to start skimming and being a scam artist SOMEWHERE right?

And fuck you talking about wasn't a good man? He was a good man by all accounts. His family loved him the neighborhood loved him and respected him and he didn't do shit bad to people that by default is a good man. Not being book smart isn't being a weak piece of shit. and def not working hard for years saving up to make your dreams come true isn't a risky venture. if they had an extra 14 thousand fucking dollars im sure they wouldn't have had to sell the store.
the writing on this show and Bad has established that we never take an oral story at face value... they have played with perception POV in the past and especially since we heard it from Chuck a character that has shown great skill at deception and manipulation and is passive aggressive
 
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