that opening montage was heartbreaking
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that opening montage was heartbreaking
Yea that's some real shit...
Do you think Jim needs therapy or its just the way he deals with shit???
yeah he needs therapy. the same way some of us resort to unhealthy habit to mask our pain, jimmy's habit is these dangerous hustles that he doesn't to do. but he wants to.
I've never got into this show.
Is it worth watching?
Is it worth watching?
Great ep
Jimmy turned her out, I bet she gets wet to breakin the law
Jimmy and Kim trolled the court, icb.
Nacho sittin where hector was, but why he got to have cac bitches in his crib, get some latinas.
Dude wants out the game, ain’t no out but death or prison.
Fuckin salamancas are all the same, always some fucked up personality.
I’d like to see who began this family down that path.
Yes!
Man I didn t know season 4 was even on....awww man
Eternally Slipping Jimmy SMFH
Mike had to kill him I was mad at dude for jetting on them like that. What a fucking dumb ass who deserved to die.
Mike had to kill him I was mad at dude for jetting on them like that. What a fucking dumb ass who deserved to die.
Man how in the fuck did he do that lmao
He was in the ceiling and dropped down perfectly hahah
Yup Kim's face at the end said it all.
Looks like someone was right
In boots and jeans
He’s not seen in breakin bad so my guess is he dies, but I’d like to see how they got the drop on him
He’s smart but not smart enough
In boots and jeans
He’s not seen in breakin bad so my guess is he dies, but I’d like to see how they got the drop on him
He’s smart but not smart enough
Mike probably kills him too
in breaking bad,when walter and jesse 1st snatch saul up and take him to the desert with guns and mask , saul say " did lalo send you?" and he's relived its not lalo and say " as long as its not him". or something to that effect.In boots and jeans
He’s not seen in breakin bad so my guess is he dies, but I’d like to see how they got the drop on him
He’s smart but not smart enough
Couple of things.
What was the plan with the Germans anyway. Were they just going to go home with a promise never to talk about the project. They had to know they were doing something extremely shady .
Seems like making sure they never got home was always a possiblity
2nd. If Kim dont realize that Jimmy cant be truly trusted by now, then shes not as smart as I thought.
What was the plan with the Germans anyway. Were they just going to go home with a promise never to talk about the project. They had to know they were doing something extremely shady .
Seems like making sure they never got home was always a possiblity
2nd. If Kim dont realize that Jimmy cant be truly trusted by now, then shes not as smart as I thought.
Well shit, makes you wanna see it all over again, without the family drama
Watched the show on Netflix.
Will watch this season when it’s out on Netflix next year.
Will watch this season when it’s out on Netflix next year.
LOL @ the look Walter gives Jesse when Saul asks if shanking Badger is completely off the table.
S'all good, man.
Better Call Saul will not return until 2020
By Dan Snierson
April 06, 2019 at 03:10 PM EDT
FBTwitter
NICOLE WILDER/AMC
Better Call Saul
TYPE
NETWORK
You started to see the transformation of Jimmy McGill into Saul Goodman last October in the season 4 finale of Better Call Saul, but you’ll have to wait a while to see the results. Why? Because carefully plotted transformations take time. And because season 5 of AMC’s Breaking Bad prequel won’t premiere until next year.
In a wide-ranging interview with Vulture, AMC’s President of Entertainment Networks Sarah Barnett said that the news was dropped on AMC’s most recent earnings call. Decisions like this are “driven by talent needs,” she said, “which we would not override if it would result in a worse show.” (At least it’s not later in the year; EW has confirmed that the earnings call mentioned a debut date of early 2020.)
Better Call Saul, which launched in early 2015, unveiled season 2 almost exactly a year later; season 3 came 14 months later while season 4 arrived 16 months after that. While it’s frustrating for fans, it’s not uncommon for marquee shows to take longer hiatuses between later seasons. (See Game of Thrones, which wrapped season 7 in Aug. 2017 and kicks off its eighth and final season next week.)
In other Breaking Bad universe news, Better Call Saul co-creator/executive producer Vince Gilligan also is busy these days with that highly mysteriousBreaking Bad movie.
Barnett also indicated in the interview that the show’s writers “have a very particular, very clear sense of the arc of their show,” and that “[w]e’re certainly getting closer” to the end of the series. That lines up with what Saul co-creator/executive producer Peter Gould told EW after season 4. “I think we are closer to the end than to the beginning,” he said, noting that his dream was to provide a level of end-game satisfaction that was “somewhere in the same universe” of Breaking Bad.
For much more from Gould on what to expect in season 5, head over here.
By Dan Snierson
April 06, 2019 at 03:10 PM EDT
FBTwitter
NICOLE WILDER/AMC
Better Call Saul
TYPE
- TV Show
NETWORK
You started to see the transformation of Jimmy McGill into Saul Goodman last October in the season 4 finale of Better Call Saul, but you’ll have to wait a while to see the results. Why? Because carefully plotted transformations take time. And because season 5 of AMC’s Breaking Bad prequel won’t premiere until next year.
In a wide-ranging interview with Vulture, AMC’s President of Entertainment Networks Sarah Barnett said that the news was dropped on AMC’s most recent earnings call. Decisions like this are “driven by talent needs,” she said, “which we would not override if it would result in a worse show.” (At least it’s not later in the year; EW has confirmed that the earnings call mentioned a debut date of early 2020.)
Better Call Saul, which launched in early 2015, unveiled season 2 almost exactly a year later; season 3 came 14 months later while season 4 arrived 16 months after that. While it’s frustrating for fans, it’s not uncommon for marquee shows to take longer hiatuses between later seasons. (See Game of Thrones, which wrapped season 7 in Aug. 2017 and kicks off its eighth and final season next week.)
In other Breaking Bad universe news, Better Call Saul co-creator/executive producer Vince Gilligan also is busy these days with that highly mysteriousBreaking Bad movie.
Barnett also indicated in the interview that the show’s writers “have a very particular, very clear sense of the arc of their show,” and that “[w]e’re certainly getting closer” to the end of the series. That lines up with what Saul co-creator/executive producer Peter Gould told EW after season 4. “I think we are closer to the end than to the beginning,” he said, noting that his dream was to provide a level of end-game satisfaction that was “somewhere in the same universe” of Breaking Bad.
For much more from Gould on what to expect in season 5, head over here.
Better Call Saul creator on what lies ahead in season 5, exploring Gene
By Dan Snierson
December 12, 2018 at 12:58 PM EST
FBTwitter
NICOLE WILDER/AMC
In the season 4 finale of Better Call Saul, Jimmy McGill made his intentions clear. Like it or not — and he seemed to like it; Kim, not so much — he was becoming Saul Goodman. We know that the scrappy, rudderless lawyer (played by Bob Odenkirk) ultimately winds up as the snake attorney that twists and contorts the law to his criminal advantage as he advises rising meth lord Walter White (Bryan Cranston) in Breaking Bad, and while “Winner” didn’t whisk us into Corruption City, it illuminated that road to hell.
What awaits next? How soon will Jimmy/Saul reestablish contact with Mike (Jonathan Banks) and worm himself into the burgeoning illicit empire of Gus (Giancarlo Esposito)? How long will Kim (Rhea Seehorn) stand by this rapidly-disintegrating man? “You’re asking all the same questions we’re asking in the writers’ room,” Saul co-creator Peter Gould tells EW. “It seems like Jimmy’s first move is to try to leverage all the contacts he has in the world of selling drop phones. But don’t forget, he also knows the vet [Caldera, played by Joe DeRosa], and the vet is sort of Craig’s List for the underworld in Albuquerque. So he can get quite far. The question is: how does he establish a reputation as not just a criminal lawyer but a criminal lawyer? And what does that mean to him at this point? Because situations may require him to do things and turn a blind eye to things that Jimmy McGill would not be able to stomach.”
With true transformation now in play, is it fair game to talk end game for Better Call Saul? How many more seasons does Gould believe that the show will run? “My dearest hope is that we get to finish the story that we started and conclude it in a satisfying way,” he says. “My dream would be that this is somewhere in the same universe of satisfaction as Breaking Bad was. I was so proud to be part of the way we ended Breaking Bad, and that was actually one of the fears of doing this show — that we would tarnish that. Having said that, I think we are closer to the end than to the beginning.”
Gould may be playing coy on the show’s longevity, but he does light up when asked if Better Call Saul will spend more time with Jimmy’s other alter ego, Gene Takovic. The down-and-out, neutered Cinnabon manager has been seen briefly and occasionally in the post-Breaking Bad era (or the near-end-of-Breaking-Badera). He was last spotted at the beginning of season 4 after his collapse on the Cinnabon floor and paranoid ride home from the hospital. “I am very, very interested in Gene Takovic,” says Gould. “In some ways, Gene is very enigmatic. In some ways, he’s the opposite of Saul Goodman because he speaks so very little, he’s so afraid. But I’m fascinated by that situation and by the question of: is there still any chance of redemption or ray of light in this guy’s life after all the terrible things that he’s done, now that he’s run away and hidden himself in Omaha?”
Co-creator Vince Gilligan previously told EW that he “desperately” wants to bring on central Breaking Bad characters such as Walt and Jesse (Aaron Paul) to pop up on the show as it tilts toward that time period. (Since the interview with Gould, it has been confirmed that there is a Breaking Bad movie in the works, presumably focused on Jesse’s exploits after driving off from the Nazi compound.) Given that season 4 afforded viewers a peek back into that era by returning to the day that the walls caved in on Saul, will the show spend even more time in that era next season? “The question for us is always: are we telling the story of Jimmy McGill and Mike Ehrmantraut and Kim Wexler?” redirects Gould. “And if showing scenes during the course of Breaking Bad add to that story or are important to that story or turn that story, then I think we should do them. But I don’t want to dip in to Breaking Bad just because we can.”
Wherever/whenever we are headed to next in Albuquerque, Gould voices a looming question that the show will tackle next season, and one you should be contemplating during the long hiatus: “We know who Saul Goodman is, but who is Saul Goodman to Kim Wexler?”
Click here to read more from Gould on that game-changing finale.
https://ew.com/tv/2018/12/12/better-call-saul-creator-season-5-preview/
By Dan Snierson
December 12, 2018 at 12:58 PM EST
FBTwitter
NICOLE WILDER/AMC
In the season 4 finale of Better Call Saul, Jimmy McGill made his intentions clear. Like it or not — and he seemed to like it; Kim, not so much — he was becoming Saul Goodman. We know that the scrappy, rudderless lawyer (played by Bob Odenkirk) ultimately winds up as the snake attorney that twists and contorts the law to his criminal advantage as he advises rising meth lord Walter White (Bryan Cranston) in Breaking Bad, and while “Winner” didn’t whisk us into Corruption City, it illuminated that road to hell.
What awaits next? How soon will Jimmy/Saul reestablish contact with Mike (Jonathan Banks) and worm himself into the burgeoning illicit empire of Gus (Giancarlo Esposito)? How long will Kim (Rhea Seehorn) stand by this rapidly-disintegrating man? “You’re asking all the same questions we’re asking in the writers’ room,” Saul co-creator Peter Gould tells EW. “It seems like Jimmy’s first move is to try to leverage all the contacts he has in the world of selling drop phones. But don’t forget, he also knows the vet [Caldera, played by Joe DeRosa], and the vet is sort of Craig’s List for the underworld in Albuquerque. So he can get quite far. The question is: how does he establish a reputation as not just a criminal lawyer but a criminal lawyer? And what does that mean to him at this point? Because situations may require him to do things and turn a blind eye to things that Jimmy McGill would not be able to stomach.”
With true transformation now in play, is it fair game to talk end game for Better Call Saul? How many more seasons does Gould believe that the show will run? “My dearest hope is that we get to finish the story that we started and conclude it in a satisfying way,” he says. “My dream would be that this is somewhere in the same universe of satisfaction as Breaking Bad was. I was so proud to be part of the way we ended Breaking Bad, and that was actually one of the fears of doing this show — that we would tarnish that. Having said that, I think we are closer to the end than to the beginning.”
Gould may be playing coy on the show’s longevity, but he does light up when asked if Better Call Saul will spend more time with Jimmy’s other alter ego, Gene Takovic. The down-and-out, neutered Cinnabon manager has been seen briefly and occasionally in the post-Breaking Bad era (or the near-end-of-Breaking-Badera). He was last spotted at the beginning of season 4 after his collapse on the Cinnabon floor and paranoid ride home from the hospital. “I am very, very interested in Gene Takovic,” says Gould. “In some ways, Gene is very enigmatic. In some ways, he’s the opposite of Saul Goodman because he speaks so very little, he’s so afraid. But I’m fascinated by that situation and by the question of: is there still any chance of redemption or ray of light in this guy’s life after all the terrible things that he’s done, now that he’s run away and hidden himself in Omaha?”
Co-creator Vince Gilligan previously told EW that he “desperately” wants to bring on central Breaking Bad characters such as Walt and Jesse (Aaron Paul) to pop up on the show as it tilts toward that time period. (Since the interview with Gould, it has been confirmed that there is a Breaking Bad movie in the works, presumably focused on Jesse’s exploits after driving off from the Nazi compound.) Given that season 4 afforded viewers a peek back into that era by returning to the day that the walls caved in on Saul, will the show spend even more time in that era next season? “The question for us is always: are we telling the story of Jimmy McGill and Mike Ehrmantraut and Kim Wexler?” redirects Gould. “And if showing scenes during the course of Breaking Bad add to that story or are important to that story or turn that story, then I think we should do them. But I don’t want to dip in to Breaking Bad just because we can.”
Wherever/whenever we are headed to next in Albuquerque, Gould voices a looming question that the show will tackle next season, and one you should be contemplating during the long hiatus: “We know who Saul Goodman is, but who is Saul Goodman to Kim Wexler?”
Click here to read more from Gould on that game-changing finale.
https://ew.com/tv/2018/12/12/better-call-saul-creator-season-5-preview/
I'm not mad at the 2020 release date. As long as the show maintain it's quality. That's all that counts.
Better Call Saul will not return until 2020
By Dan Snierson
April 06, 2019 at 03:10 PM EDT
FBTwitter
NICOLE WILDER/AMC
Better Call Saul
TYPE
GENRE
- TV Show
NETWORK
You started to see the transformation of Jimmy McGill into Saul Goodman last October in the season 4 finale of Better Call Saul, but you’ll have to wait a while to see the results. Why? Because carefully plotted transformations take time. And because season 5 of AMC’s Breaking Bad prequel won’t premiere until next year.
In a wide-ranging interview with Vulture, AMC’s President of Entertainment Networks Sarah Barnett said that the news was dropped on AMC’s most recent earnings call. Decisions like this are “driven by talent needs,” she said, “which we would not override if it would result in a worse show.” (At least it’s not later in the year; EW has confirmed that the earnings call mentioned a debut date of early 2020.)
Better Call Saul, which launched in early 2015, unveiled season 2 almost exactly a year later; season 3 came 14 months later while season 4 arrived 16 months after that. While it’s frustrating for fans, it’s not uncommon for marquee shows to take longer hiatuses between later seasons. (See Game of Thrones, which wrapped season 7 in Aug. 2017 and kicks off its eighth and final season next week.)
In other Breaking Bad universe news, Better Call Saul co-creator/executive producer Vince Gilligan also is busy these days with that highly mysteriousBreaking Bad movie.
Barnett also indicated in the interview that the show’s writers “have a very particular, very clear sense of the arc of their show,” and that “[w]e’re certainly getting closer” to the end of the series. That lines up with what Saul co-creator/executive producer Peter Gould told EW after season 4. “I think we are closer to the end than to the beginning,” he said, noting that his dream was to provide a level of end-game satisfaction that was “somewhere in the same universe” of Breaking Bad.
For much more from Gould on what to expect in season 5, head over here.
Fuck it, I can wait.
Better Call Saul web series has two Emmy nominations revoked
By Dan Snierson
July 19, 2019 at 07:58 PM EDT
FBTwitter
AMC
Better Call Saul
TYPE
GENRE
Better Call Saul will head into the Emmys with a few fewer shots at a trophy.
The Academy of Television Arts and Sciences announced on Friday that it has revoked two Emmy nominations for the Breaking Bad prequel’s web series, Better Call Saul Employee Training: Madrigal Electromotive Security, over an issue of running time. Posing as training videos, the 10 episodes featured Banks, as head of security of Madrigal Electromotive, giving lectures and tips to new hires.
Earlier this week, BCSET:MES received a nomination in the Short Form Comedy or Drama Series category, while Jonathan Banks scored an Actor in a Short Form Comedy or Drama Series nomination for reprising his role as fixer Mike Ehrmantraut in the videos, serving as host. Given that Better Call Saul Employee Training: Madrigal Electromotive Security did not meet the minimum required run time, which is two minutes for at least six episodes, the Academy declared it ineligible to compete in either category.
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“This decision is in no way a diminishment of the quality of Better Call Saul Employee Training or Mr. Banks’ performance in it,” stressed the Academy in a statement.
The folks at Better Call Saul can certainly console themselves with nine nods for the main show, including one for Outstanding Drama Series and Banks’ nomination in the Supporting Actor in a Drama Series category.
Due to this snafu, Sundance TV’s State of the Union — which received the next highest number of votes — will assume Saul‘s place in the Short Form Comedy or Drama Series category, while Ryan O’Connell, who starred in Netflix’s Specialtakes Banks’ slot in the Actor in a Short Form Comedy or Drama Series category.
There have been Emmy nomination disqualifications in recent years. This Is Uslost an Outstanding Contemporary Costumes nod in 2017 because at least 51 percent of the action of the episode did not take place within the past 25 years. The previous year, Peter MacNicol lost a guest actor nomination for his work on Veep because he did not meet the qualification of having appeared in less than 50 percent of the season.
By Dan Snierson
July 19, 2019 at 07:58 PM EDT
FBTwitter
AMC
Better Call Saul
TYPE
- TV Show
GENRE
Better Call Saul will head into the Emmys with a few fewer shots at a trophy.
The Academy of Television Arts and Sciences announced on Friday that it has revoked two Emmy nominations for the Breaking Bad prequel’s web series, Better Call Saul Employee Training: Madrigal Electromotive Security, over an issue of running time. Posing as training videos, the 10 episodes featured Banks, as head of security of Madrigal Electromotive, giving lectures and tips to new hires.
Earlier this week, BCSET:MES received a nomination in the Short Form Comedy or Drama Series category, while Jonathan Banks scored an Actor in a Short Form Comedy or Drama Series nomination for reprising his role as fixer Mike Ehrmantraut in the videos, serving as host. Given that Better Call Saul Employee Training: Madrigal Electromotive Security did not meet the minimum required run time, which is two minutes for at least six episodes, the Academy declared it ineligible to compete in either category.
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inRead invented by Teads
“This decision is in no way a diminishment of the quality of Better Call Saul Employee Training or Mr. Banks’ performance in it,” stressed the Academy in a statement.
The folks at Better Call Saul can certainly console themselves with nine nods for the main show, including one for Outstanding Drama Series and Banks’ nomination in the Supporting Actor in a Drama Series category.
Due to this snafu, Sundance TV’s State of the Union — which received the next highest number of votes — will assume Saul‘s place in the Short Form Comedy or Drama Series category, while Ryan O’Connell, who starred in Netflix’s Specialtakes Banks’ slot in the Actor in a Short Form Comedy or Drama Series category.
There have been Emmy nomination disqualifications in recent years. This Is Uslost an Outstanding Contemporary Costumes nod in 2017 because at least 51 percent of the action of the episode did not take place within the past 25 years. The previous year, Peter MacNicol lost a guest actor nomination for his work on Veep because he did not meet the qualification of having appeared in less than 50 percent of the season.
Web Series? Didn't know there was another variation of the show.Better Call Saul web series has two Emmy nominations revoked
By Dan Snierson
July 19, 2019 at 07:58 PM EDT
FBTwitter
AMC
Better Call Saul
TYPE
NETWORK
- TV Show
GENRE
Better Call Saul will head into the Emmys with a few fewer shots at a trophy.
The Academy of Television Arts and Sciences announced on Friday that it has revoked two Emmy nominations for the Breaking Bad prequel’s web series, Better Call Saul Employee Training: Madrigal Electromotive Security, over an issue of running time. Posing as training videos, the 10 episodes featured Banks, as head of security of Madrigal Electromotive, giving lectures and tips to new hires.
Earlier this week, BCSET:MES received a nomination in the Short Form Comedy or Drama Series category, while Jonathan Banks scored an Actor in a Short Form Comedy or Drama Series nomination for reprising his role as fixer Mike Ehrmantraut in the videos, serving as host. Given that Better Call Saul Employee Training: Madrigal Electromotive Security did not meet the minimum required run time, which is two minutes for at least six episodes, the Academy declared it ineligible to compete in either category.
ADVERTISING
inRead invented by Teads
“This decision is in no way a diminishment of the quality of Better Call Saul Employee Training or Mr. Banks’ performance in it,” stressed the Academy in a statement.
The folks at Better Call Saul can certainly console themselves with nine nods for the main show, including one for Outstanding Drama Series and Banks’ nomination in the Supporting Actor in a Drama Series category.
Due to this snafu, Sundance TV’s State of the Union — which received the next highest number of votes — will assume Saul‘s place in the Short Form Comedy or Drama Series category, while Ryan O’Connell, who starred in Netflix’s Specialtakes Banks’ slot in the Actor in a Short Form Comedy or Drama Series category.
There have been Emmy nomination disqualifications in recent years. This Is Uslost an Outstanding Contemporary Costumes nod in 2017 because at least 51 percent of the action of the episode did not take place within the past 25 years. The previous year, Peter MacNicol lost a guest actor nomination for his work on Veep because he did not meet the qualification of having appeared in less than 50 percent of the season.
Where the hell is it aired?
I have NO IDEA, I was surprised as well
I found it. It's on their website of AMC. It's a cartoon. Like who's watching that?
Appalled. Lol.
Sorry, disgruntled Breaking Bad watcher here. Lol
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