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I can do that on my iPhone, without removable storage

I don't want to watch a movie on an iPhone. :smh::smh:

A 10 inch netbook is barely acceptable. and you can put 30 700+ meg files on your phone? that about 21 gigs, so you must have the 32 gig phone.
 
Will Apple’s iPad Change Mobile Gaming?
from Mashable! by Samuel Axon

Apple made gaming a big part of its iPad tablet announcement today. That wasn’t a surprise; Apple has had its eye on the gaming market since it launched the App Store for the iPhone and iPod touch.

The company announced that iPhone and iPod touch games will be playable on the device, and it invited established iPhone game developers Gameloft and Electronic Arts on stage at its iPad unveiling event to show off two games in development for the device: N.O.V.A. and Need for Speed Shift.

Both demonstrations were put together in just a couple of weeks, but even this early they give us some sense of what we can expect from Apple iPad games. Here are our impressions.
 
Dunno about that. :dunno:
Time will tell, tho.

The advantage that the new iPad device is its ability to DO OTHER THINGS besides just play games.

Nintendo's newest device will most likely only focus on 'gaming'. :dunno:

This Apple device will be about, games + [fill in the blank... then keep adding stuff]

But, it really all depends on 3rd-party developers, I'd say.

Because if a video game development company is looking for another 'revenue source' aside from only Nintendo, Sony, or Xbox...

That could make all the difference. :yes:
The fact that they are just focused on games will continue to make Nintendo dominate the Handheld industry. Parents buy Nintedo DS for their kids for the games. No parent is going to buy an Apple Tablet for their child for the games, especially at the price it's going to be. Sony's PSP and PSP Go are a hell of a lot more powerful than DS, are mostly about games, but the DS continues to sell because they have the market (parents) locked.
 
go read my post.. you've always LACKED comprehension skills so try reading it again..and again if you have to.

"but they don't run Mac OS"

your words


CLOWN..actually BITCH what you getting hostile for?...time for you to change your iPad?


:lol:
 
The iPad arrives, and it's basically a big iPhone - Big Disappointment

The long wait is over, the rumors are over, and at last, the Apple tablet is a reality. Armed with a 9.7-inch display, just a half-inch thick, and weighing just a pound and a half, the iPad is ... well, it's essentially just a big iPhone, albeit with a price tag that's a lot cheaper than I was expecting. Not bad, but if you were hoping for a revolutionary new product, prepare to be disappointed.
So, let's get a few specifics out of the way first. The Wi-Fi- and Bluetooth-enabled iPad (yup, that's the name Apple settled upon) will do pretty much anything an iPhone can do—including e-mail, Web browsing, calendar and event managements, photos, music and video, and apps (it'll be able to run "virtually" any app in the App Store, we're told). You'll also be able to buy books on the new iBooks store (more on that in a minute) and work on office documents using a custom version of Apple's iWork suite, all with the help on a virtual, nearly full-size QWERTY keypad.

Pricing? Much cheaper than I thought it would be: just $499 for the entry-level 16GB model, far less than the $999 price tag that many had predicted (and/or feared). You'll also be able to get a 32GB version for $599, while the 64GB flavor will cost you $699.

And yes, as predicted, 3G models will be available as well, with prepaid, no-contract plans for AT&T (and only AT&T, it should be said); expect to pay $29 a month for unlimited data, or $14 for 250MB a month ("more than a month" for most people, said a still-thin but otherwise healthy looking Steve Jobs ... which might true, so long as you don't browse too much or watch too many streaming videos). iPads with embedded 3G will cost $150 above and beyond the price of the non-3G versions (so $649 for the 16GB version, $749 for the 32GB model, and so on).

When will the iPad ship? In 60 days, Jobs promised, with an extra 30-day wait for the 3G models.

And how about battery life? Expect 10 hours, according to Sir Steve, plus a month of stand-by time. (And yes, the battery is encased in the iPad shell.)

So then ... what does the iPad do that's so special, exactly? Well ... as I said right up front, we're basically talking a big iPhone/iPod Touch here. You've got the same basic iPhone look—including the big touchscreen and the Home key at the bottom—only super-sized.

For Web browsing, for instance, you can now see an entire Web page (and be able to read the text) in one shot (although no, Flash is still not supported). When you read your e-mail messages now, you can view your inbox on the left side of the screen while you have a message open, and you've got a much bigger virtual QWERTY keypad to deal with. Now when you browse your music, you're looking at an interface that more closely resembles the desktop version of iTunes. The on-screen calendar looks like a big monthly calendar, not just a series of little numbered boxes. Mapping on the iPad is also bigger (and yes, still powered by Google), and, I suppose, better.

You'll also be able to run "nearly" every app in the App Store, either at a reduced "pixel-for-pixel" size or full screen via the magic of pixel doubling. The current Facebook app, for example, will work just fine on the iPad ... it's just a lot bigger. And in case you were wondering, well ... no, you can't run multiple apps at once, on the same iPad screen (as I was hoping).

More interesting is the potential for app developers to build apps that take advantage of the iPad's jumbo display. A revamped version of Gameloft's first-person shooter "N.O.V.A." was shown off that featured new multitouch gestures such as swiping three fingers to open a door, or two fingers to toss a grenade. On the "Need for Speed" driving game, there's now enough room to include a touch-enabled stick shift, as well as a rear-view mirror that you can tap.

We also got our first glimpse at some of the much-hyped newspaper apps for the iPad, including an app for the New York Times that looked more like a real newspaper than a phone app, complete with movable columns, slideshows, streaming video, and the ability to read in landscape or portrait modes. Not bad, but that's about all we saw from the magazine/newspaper standpoint—surprising, given all the ink that's been spilled over how the Apple tablet will supposedly revolutionize/save the publishing business.

Speaking of publishing ... yes, Jobs touted the iPad as a Kindle competitor, announcing a new e-book store called iBooks that'll let you buy and download books from five major publishers (including Penguin, Harper Collins, Simon & Schuster, Macmillan, and Hachette). In terms of the e-books themselves, publishers can choose to "print" them in black & white or color, and you'll be able to change the font and font size if you wish. An initial glance at the pricing revealed several books that were conspicuously pricier than they are on the Kindle store, though.

Another new feature: a trio of productivity apps based on Apple's existing iWork suite, including Pages (for word processing), Numbers (spreadsheet), and Keynote (presentations). As you might expect, each app ($9.99 each in the App Store) take advantage of all the iPad's touch features; for example, in Numbers, you can call up a specific virtual keypad for entering cell functions, which is a nice touch. However, since there's no true multitasking on the iPad, you can't, say, have a Web page open while you're composing a document in Pages. That's a major drawback in my book (at least in terms of using the iPad as a laptop replacement).

The iPad will come with three accessories, by the way: a standard dock that'll prop the device up for viewing videos, slideshows, or other documents; a dock with a physical keyboard attached; and a "really nice" case.

Missing features in the iPad: No built-in camera (so no, there's no facial recognition that would, for instance, automatically identify different family members and switch to their personalized iPad view). No TV subscriptions (as had been previously rumored). No Flash support for the Web browser. No app multitasking. No haptic feedback for the virtual QWERTY keypad ... and indeed, nothing all that new on the UI front at all.

Overall, the most surprising thing about the iPad is the $499 price tag for the low-end model ... and that was a wise decision, because frankly, I still don't understand why I'd want an iPod in addition to my iPhone and my MacBook.

Am I disappointed in today's big announcement? Well, it's hard to imagine what Steve Jobs possibly could have unveiled today that would have lived up to the hype, and it'll take some time for the reality of the iPad to sink in (for me, anyway).

But my immediate reaction ... yep, disappointment. The iPad looks like an interesting refinement of the iPhone/iPod Touch model, but does it break the mold like the original iPhone did? Personally, I don't think so. Will I buy one? Probably yes, because tech is my business ... buy if I were the average gadget freak, I just don't know.


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Where's Divine?
 
Re: The iPad arrives, and it's basically a big iPhone - Big Disappointment

16 and 32 GB's :hmm:
 
Re: The iPad arrives, and it's basically a big iPhone - Big Disappointment

apple_monster.jpg


Yea..... Think different...:D
 
this is where the deal with LaLa comes into place. streaming content from a cloud. Apple wants you to purchase from their media stores cause it means that you are buying their product and it gives them leverage with the media companies. the more media companies in their store the more people will be apt to buy their product.

having your purchased content available via an iTunes cloud will be a win for Apple. keep in mind, most of the world doesn't go to BGOL or torrents or rapidshare to get their content. people still purchase legally.

Suckers!!

I need to find that OSX hack for my netbook.
 
Any truth in the fact, it doesn't really support multitasking? That's odd, probably will be on an update by the time it comes out.
 
this is where the deal with LaLa comes into place. streaming content from a cloud. Apple wants you to purchase from their media stores cause it means that you are buying their product and it gives them leverage with the media companies. the more media companies in their store the more people will be apt to buy their product.

having your purchased content available via an iTunes cloud will be a win for Apple. keep in mind, most of the world doesn't go to BGOL or torrents or rapidshare to get their content. people still purchase legally.

this :yes:

if they were caring about torrents and bgol, apple and many companies would go broke..

my girls cousin received somewhere between $300 to $400 in itunes store gift cards during christmas..

many co workers have tried illegal content but suck at it, got a letter from their isp and swore off anything illegal

the rest have either always been able to afford a cd or a movie or could care less about bootleg/free copies, to many people they still think bootleg means less quality..
 
Re: The iPad arrives, and it's basically a big iPhone - Big Disappointment

Yea. I saw that thread that is a 10 page blow up to a product that was so hyped to revolutionize the Tablet world. Yea I saw that thread...
it will revolutionize the tablet world you better believe every product company out there is trying to get their hands on this so their developers can try to design something around it for the mac haters.
 
Re: The iPad arrives, and it's basically a big iPhone - Big Disappointment

how am i gonna hold that big ass tablet up to my ear to make phone calls?
 
Re: The iPad arrives, and it's basically a big iPhone - Big Disappointment

16 and 32 GB's :hmm:

Pricing? Much cheaper than I thought it would be: just $499 for the entry-level 16GB model, far less than the $999 price tag that many had predicted (and/or feared). You'll also be able to get a 32GB version for $599, while the 64GB flavor will cost you $699.

There you go.
 
Poll so far from IphoneBlog mostly apple fanboys

Yes! BUY BUY! BUY NOW! 12% (348 votes)

It's great, but it won't change my life. Buy 16% (452 votes)

It's great, but I already have an iPhone, I don't think I need this 29% (829 votes)

Eh, just a big iPod Touch. Shrug 37% (1,038 votes)

Apple is teh suxors! Overhyped 5% (152 votes)

Total Votes: 2,819
 
The fact that they are just focused on games will continue to make Nintendo dominate the Handheld industry. Parents buy Nintedo DS for their kids for the games. No parent is going to buy an Apple Tablet for their child for the games, especially at the price it's going to be. Sony's PSP and PSP Go are a hell of a lot more powerful than DS, are mostly about games, but the DS continues to sell because they have the market (parents) locked.

All valid points. :yes:

But I think you are missing the bigger picture...
the 3rd-party Game Developers will have a LARGE hand in all of this.

- If they want to make MORE money... (outside of just 3 major console systems)
- By making their 'titles' available to MORE people
- Then they will help move units of the iPad. :yes:

Example:
- By Christmas of 2011...

- Let's say a big-time developer like EA announces the next version Madden, or say the next COD:Modern Warfare on the iPad.

- This device WILL become the 'hot ticket item' of the shopping season. :yes:

- And TONS of young kids will want to play their favorite game, on a 'portable' game console, WITH A TOUCHSCREEN, that has a phone, plus surfs the web, with no mouse, and does yada, yada, yada.

- Because it just DOES MORE than the system they are using today.

Kids make their PARENTS buy stuff for them.
Not the other way around. :smh:

So even if Nintendo has a 'lock' on parents today...
That could all change by next Christmas.

EDIT: Granted it won't be overnight. But I wouldn't be surprised if took about 5 years or less.
 
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Re: The iPad arrives, and it's basically a big iPhone - Big Disappointment

I'm a huge apple Fanboy and usually an early adoptee of their product. But they missed the mark with this one.

Should have introduced features the iPhone doesn't have.

Jazzed up the iPhone os or something

I'll just wait for the 3rd gen when it becomes different enough from the iPhone to rationalize it.


In a nut shell:

So it's an MP4 player / dinner plate?

For that price, you could get a moderately decent laptop and have it do exactly the same thing, except you won't look like an ass and you will be able to use a keyboard.
 
All valid points. :yes:

But I think you are missing the bigger picture...
the 3rd-party Game Developers will have a LARGE hand in all of this.

- If they want to make MORE money... (outside of just 3 major console systems)
- By making their 'titles' available to MORE people
- Then they will help move units of the iPad. :yes:

Example:
- By Christmas of 2011...

- Let's say a big-time developer like EA announces the next version Madden, or say the next COD:Modern Warfare on the iPad.

- This device WILL become the 'hot ticket item' of the shopping season. :yes:

- And TONS of young kids will want to play their favorite game, on a 'portable' game console, WITH A TOUCHSCREEN, that has a phone, plus surfs the web, with no mouse, and does yada, yada, yada.

- Because it just DOES MORE than the system they are using today.

Kids make their PARENTS buy stuff for them.
Not the other way around. :smh:

So even if Nintendo has a 'lock' on parents today...
That could all change by next Christmas.

This is not a console it is a Tablet PC therefore your comparisons have no merit. For starters, Apple is not trying to compete with anyone in any pre-existing market with the iPad. They are not in the business of following they are about to create an entirely different market segment in which others try to compete in similar to what they did with iTunes, the iPod and the iPhone. There will not be cross-shopping between the DS and the iPad and if you believe so you're simply misinformed. The iPad may be the better value to YOU but that is not necessarily true for everyone else. If I want my kids to have a portable gaming device solely the DS definitely fits the bill and will the iPad have Mario, Zelda, or Animal Crossing? That's Nintendo's bread and butter and they are games that you can trust your kids playing.
 
go read my post.. you've always LACKED comprehension skills so try reading it again..and again if you have to.

you have always had an issue understanding YOUR OWN WORDS...

you said they DONT RUN OSX

and in actuality...they DO

now bitch boy if you has said they don't come with OSX installed I would not have had to correct you inept steve jobs dick licking/sucking, Apple wave flagging cheerleading ass.

Now go back to trying to shut up the so called haters
 
http://www.maclife.com/article/feature/what_apple_left_out

7 Essential Features Left Off of the iPad

You followed the live blog updates, you've read the articles, you've drooled over the beautiful images, and you've figured out how you're going to clear space under your credit limit before the iPad ships in a couple of months. (But really, other than maybe education settings how many people aren't going to wait the extra month for the 3G models?) In the midst of all the excitement, though, maybe we should take a minute and look at some things that were not announced.

Where's the camera? Steve Jobs announced that all iPhone apps would work right out of the box. Nice thought, but how about the Chuck app that let's you take an iPhone pic and plug yourself into a Nerd Herd badge? They must have meant all iPhone apps that don't require hardware they didn't include in the iPad. Seriously, this thing was made to be the ultimate portable videophone. Except it's not a phone. And doesn't have a camera.

Connectivity. And how about a plain old USB port for attaching a printer for those slick iWork documents you created on your iPad? Or a webcam since you didn't give us one? Or an external disk drive, or any of the other 3 billion USB goodies?

Multitasking. Are we really going to have to jailbreak this thing to use all the power it has? Sure, multitasking could put a damper on the huge battery life they bragged about, but shouldn't users have the option of making that trade-off for themselves? You want to avoid threatening the Macbook market? Okay, but this large a screen cries out for the ability to have multiple windows running at the same time.

Flash. The one thing that frustrates Safari Mobile users more than any other is the inability to watch Flash video. The excuse in the past was that AT&T's network couldn't handle the load, but since the iPad is unlocked the load will probably be spread over other carriers. Jobs made a big point of saying this was a new niche that was more valuable than netbooks because “netbooks aren't better than anything.” Hey Steve, netbooks can browse Flash sites. This is another reason to look forward to the jailbreak apps showing up.

OS X. After hearing Apple crow about the new custom 1 GHz Apple A4 chip with integrated graphics, it's hard to believe it wouldn't do a great job with OS X rather than the iPhone OS. Even if Apple didn't want to have to worry about compatibility testing all the existing Mac apps, they could lock it down and trust us to only run the things they authorized. Right?

Voice Over IP. They made the point that the 3G support is data only. Okay, they don't want to hurt iPhone business. But it sounds like they're specifically saying that Skype is another of those “all iPhone apps” that aren't supported. Have we discussed jailbreak yet?

HDMI or DVI output. The iPad's native resolution is 1024x768 and it can run 720p video. There is a VGA adapter to connect it to a projector, but the composite video cables available only run up to 576p. Why not a standard high-def connector so you can connect it to your big screen with high quality?

The iPad is a great innovation with a lot going for it. But there is a whole lot more that it could have had, and it's not too early to begin letting Apple know what should be there in future versions.
 
Voice Over IP. They made the point that the 3G support is data only. Okay, they don't want to hurt iPhone business. But it sounds like they're specifically saying that Skype is another of those “all iPhone apps” that aren't supported. Have we discussed jailbreak yet?

I'm not sure I understand this one.. if you have data access you have VoIP, or am I missing something?
 
http://www.maclife.com/article/feature/what_apple_left_out

7 Essential Features Left Off of the iPad

You followed the live blog updates, you've read the articles, you've drooled over the beautiful images, and you've figured out how you're going to clear space under your credit limit before the iPad ships in a couple of months. (But really, other than maybe education settings how many people aren't going to wait the extra month for the 3G models?) In the midst of all the excitement, though, maybe we should take a minute and look at some things that were not announced.

Where's the camera? Steve Jobs announced that all iPhone apps would work right out of the box. Nice thought, but how about the Chuck app that let's you take an iPhone pic and plug yourself into a Nerd Herd badge? They must have meant all iPhone apps that don't require hardware they didn't include in the iPad. Seriously, this thing was made to be the ultimate portable videophone. Except it's not a phone. And doesn't have a camera.

Connectivity. And how about a plain old USB port for attaching a printer for those slick iWork documents you created on your iPad? Or a webcam since you didn't give us one? Or an external disk drive, or any of the other 3 billion USB goodies?

Multitasking. Are we really going to have to jailbreak this thing to use all the power it has? Sure, multitasking could put a damper on the huge battery life they bragged about, but shouldn't users have the option of making that trade-off for themselves? You want to avoid threatening the Macbook market? Okay, but this large a screen cries out for the ability to have multiple windows running at the same time.

Flash. The one thing that frustrates Safari Mobile users more than any other is the inability to watch Flash video. The excuse in the past was that AT&T's network couldn't handle the load, but since the iPad is unlocked the load will probably be spread over other carriers. Jobs made a big point of saying this was a new niche that was more valuable than netbooks because “netbooks aren't better than anything.” Hey Steve, netbooks can browse Flash sites. This is another reason to look forward to the jailbreak apps showing up.

OS X. After hearing Apple crow about the new custom 1 GHz Apple A4 chip with integrated graphics, it's hard to believe it wouldn't do a great job with OS X rather than the iPhone OS. Even if Apple didn't want to have to worry about compatibility testing all the existing Mac apps, they could lock it down and trust us to only run the things they authorized. Right?

Voice Over IP. They made the point that the 3G support is data only. Okay, they don't want to hurt iPhone business. But it sounds like they're specifically saying that Skype is another of those “all iPhone apps” that aren't supported. Have we discussed jailbreak yet?

HDMI or DVI output. The iPad's native resolution is 1024x768 and it can run 720p video. There is a VGA adapter to connect it to a projector, but the composite video cables available only run up to 576p. Why not a standard high-def connector so you can connect it to your big screen with high quality?

The iPad is a great innovation with a lot going for it. But there is a whole lot more that it could have had, and it's not too early to begin letting Apple know what should be there in future versions.

I honestly think Apple is going to shut everyone up when iPhone OS 4.0 comes out. There's a reason why OS X isn't on here and I think it's due to the fact that iPhone OS 4.0 is going to address everyone's concerns while creating some new ones.
 
this is a game changer.

some background:
i'm working on a coffee table book. my agent has been unsuccessful selling it to a publisher because part of my plan was to make the book integrated with additional content and a strong digital plan. the publisher couldn't understand it cause it's foreign in that industry. THIS device will change how people view content thus making the content creators change how they produce content. it will be much more rich and robust.

best analogy is VHS to DVD to Blu-Ray. originally people were cool with just a movie. then they wanted Deleted Scenes and commentary with DVDs. now with Blu-ray the replay value of films are much higher due to the wealth of add'l content to them that makes it immersive.

also, developers will have a field day building apps that use 10-finger touch on a much bigger screen.

:yes:


:dance::dance::dance:
 
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